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What Do You Think? The Attendance Issue

I'm debuting a new feature wherein I ask for your comments and opinions on an issue usually involving the Devils or the NHL from time to time.  And what better one to start with than with a favorite weapon from the Devils' critics - attendance.  Because a team's success isn't on the ice, but what's in the stands (he typed sarcastically).

The current average attendance for the New Jersey Devils at the Rock is hovering just under last season's average.  According to the numbers compiled at ESPN, the Devils currently have had an average of 15,234 come to the Rock.  That puts the Devils at 24th in the league in terms of average attendance.   Last season, the Devils had an average attendance of 15,564 in the first season at the Rock, which was 23rd best average in the league.   This was an improvement over the team's last season at the Continental Airlines Arena, where the Devils drew an average of 14,176, the 26th best average that season.  While we've seen a marked-improvement in attendance in Newark over the horrifically-located and poorly-accessible Meadowlands Sports Complex; the Devils are still mired in bottom third in the league in terms of average attendance.

Now, truth be told, should the current averages hold up, the Devils will never be in the top 10 in terms of average home attendance.  The Rock only holds a maximum of 17,625 for hockey according to the official Prudential Center website.  Still, it's frustrating when you have a successful hockey team in a fantastic arena (great atmosphere, sightlines, and a new-ish concourse) that's easily accessible by train and the only time it's getting filled is either when you have substantial amount of support from the opposition showing up (e.g. Montreal, Rangers) or once in a blue moon.  I understand that Vanderbeek expects to make money this season, according to this short post by Rich Chere.   And I don't think he's making up that attendance does better as the season goes on. 

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Still, I'd have to think he'd like to make more money and I'm pretty sure, to do that without killing the fanbase there must be more Devils fans coming to Devils games.  However, from my anecdotal experience, there are far, far too many people in New Jersey - be they newcomers or people who've lived here for 10 years or even lifelong Jersey residents - who don't even know who the Devils are, not aware of the legendary Stevens or Brodeur, and/or think hockey is just about fighting.   On the other hand, there are likely many additional causes and this post at Puck Money really covers the gamut with plenty to back up the charges.

Personally, especially with the economy and the fact that there is so many other entertainment options that the Devils are fighting with given their proximity to NYC and North/Central New Jersey, I lean towards the ticket prices being a factor.  Yet, Vanderbeek and his people aren't dumb.  For all I know, they've figured out that cutting ticket prices may not yield the increase in attendance to spike it - or rather that if enough are willing to buy tickets at current prices, then there's no real reason to change.  According to Rob at Puck Money, he's thinking that thee team needs better marketing marketed enough. 

I couldn't agree with him more on that front.  Despite the team being tagged as "Jersey's Team," we really don't see much from the Devils?  OK, I've noticed some more ads of their holiday packages and such in places I never seen them before, such as in malls.  I've seen the "Take the Train to the Game" that features a hockey puck with the Devils logo at pretty much all train stations up through Newark. Still, unless I'm missing the obvious, there needs to be more.  Even if the Devils do cut ther ticket prices, they have to let the millions around here know about it and entice them to see the greatest game in the world played by the best team in New Jersey. 

And it is from this point, I'd like to know what you'd think.  We'd like to have more Devils fans, a world-class fan base in support of a world-class team, and an overall atmosphere that makes The Rock difficult for any team to visit. And I'm certain the organization would like to make more money and have this support as well.  The question is how to get there?  And, no, the answer is not to let away fans buy up all the seats when their team comes to play.  Ideally, we'd like plenty more Devils fans than anyone else.

And so I ask you, what do you think are the best ways to get there, or at least to improve the current status?   While I would love the Devils to go off-beat and force Chico Resch on the Star Ledger Munchmobile and spread the love of Devils hockey via eating all over New Jersey in the offseason; I don't know if that's viable - especially on Chico's digestive system.  Then again for all I know, maybe that's the best option.  Still, what do you think?

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The biggest thing is marketing individuals

But I don’t think that will ever happen while Lou is the GM. It’s just not something he believes in. But the Devils have one of the most exciting players in hockey with Parise. He’s fifth in the league in points and goals. He’s dynamic, young, hard-working and pretty photogenic. He should be plastered all over Jersey.

Brodeur is chasing a ridiculous record. That should also be everywhere. I mean every single person in New Jersey should be able to tell you who Martin Brodeur is considering what he’s done for that state.

People are always saying that winning should be the ultimate decider when it comes to fandom, but it isn’t. People also fall in love with players that they get to know. Everyone should know Zajac and Parise’s smiling faces. And Brodeur’s legacy.

I mean the team has won three cups now. If the state still isn’t paying attention, more absolutely NEEDS to be done.

by Tyler Bleszinski on Jan 4, 2009 3:48 AM EST reply actions  

Ticket prices

Based on the games I go to I think that part of the problem is ticket prices. I don’t mind the expensive seats down low but for me the problem is the middle ring. I can’t justify ever paying 65/75 dollars for a seat on that level. It seems that other people may feel the same way as those seats are usually empty on game days (in addition to lower bowl corners). Although I can’t statistically prove that it is empty, I’d guess to say the Devils feel this way since the 65 dollar seats are always the promotional ones for 35 dollars. While I am aware of these discounts, if you aren’t a AAA member or Prudential Employee you might not know about the cut prices. Why not just make these always 35 dollars and make the 35 dollar upstairs seats more 25/30 seats. It also always seems that the 10-35 dollar price range is sold out or very close to it, no matter who is playing. I can speak on behalf of my friends when I say that we would be inclined to go to a few more games at the 25 dollar price range. The team could also make the middle bowl a family section, full season except for the ranger games, opening night and closing night it’s four tickets 150 or something like that.

Advertising is always an issue, how many times have I seen a devils commercial not on MSG+? probably never. We’ve got the best goalie of all time for a few more years and one of the best up and coming goal scorers, why not use them to help sell tickets? I understand that it is an issue for Lou, that he doesn’t want players feeling more important than the team. It’s understandable, we have always been built around team play and it seems to have worked for the last 15 years.

by dsarch on Jan 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

ticket prices, advertising, transportation

I’ve always thought they need to market better in New Jersey. I see commercials about tickets (mostly during Devils games) and some ads appearing in conjunction to NJ Transit. But people need to know WHY they should come to see the Devils. Having their TV rights owned by a company that owns their biggest rival doesn’t help them much.

Price is part of the problem. About half of the tickets are too expensive for how I would picture them (mostly on the lower level). There are discounts which are good, and if you know enough of the different groups that subscribe to them, it does help save money. But there just aren’t enough seats for under $50 and a lot of empty seats down low. Think about how a ticket scalper would drop his street price at game time so he doesn’t have to eat the ticket. Imagine of the team’s box office did that too. I also think ticketmaster.com drives people away with their extra fees. I won’t buy from them unless absolutely necessary.

And look at the new arena. Being in Newark gives it a bad rap. They need to do something about that (moving the arena wouldn’t be possible). I never feel like there’s a problem walking from Penn Station to the arena, but a lot of people may feel that way. Parking and driving there isn’t practical or cost affordable. So they really need to make mass transit more accessable to everyone. Look at the NJ Transit map. Here’s where I see a big problem. Half of the trains in NJ go to (Newark’s) Penn Station, a short walk from the arena. Half go to the other side of Newark, where transfering becomes more time consuming and more costly, or facing having to drive in or get off at Broad St and traverse Newark to the arena. I know I would have been to fewer games there if I didn’t live close to a station that goes directly to Penn Station. Point being, if they made it easier for the fans in Morris, Essex, Passaic, and Bergen counties to get to the arena, more of them would.

Maybe they need to play outdoors once a month to help draw interest.

by dyhrdmet on Jan 4, 2009 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

parking/driving

I think that parking and driving is actually just as affordable as taking the train. You can park on the other side of the post office (3 blocks) for 15 dollars. When you split gas, tolls, parking between four people it comes to probably 6 or 7 dollars each. Taking the train round trip for many people is just as if not more expensive than parking. From Secaucus to Newark is 3.25 each way alone.

by dsarch on Jan 4, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

the price of transportation always depends on where you come from and who you go with. i usually go alone after work, parking and using the train in Westfield for $6.25 round trip. I don’t mind the extra time compared to driving into Newark and parking at 5:30pm. You can’t park in Newark for $6.25 for a game. I also see people come in pairs/groups on the train, so I know I’m not alone in my thinking of taking mass transit when it’s readily accessable.

by dyhrdmet on Jan 4, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how you pointed out in this post that if you strictly look at the Devils average attendance they will always be in the middle of the pack even if they sold out every game. The Devils and their fans who care about this issue need to focus more on percentage capacity, which would ideally be at least 90% for most games. I think the move to Newark has clearly helped, they were barely cracking 80% in cavernous Continental.

The next part is partly on the Devils but also partly on Newark and its subsequent “gentrification and development”. Newark as a city has a terrible rep, although the area the arena is very nice, the rest of Newark simply put is not. It has proximity to Manhattan and has a few universities in the area, the powers that be in Newark obviously hope that improving conditions, access to NYC, and lower rents can pull the city up. Whether this happens remains to be seen.

Some of the other comments have hit on the advertising, which needs to vastly improve, and the transportation. I agree with a lot of the comments on transportation. Despite being so close to Penn Station the New Jersey Transit system is not well set up for games. I used to live in Hackensack, NJ and the only way to take mass transit to a night game was to get on a bus for an hour. This is ridiculous because the drive is about 15 minutes, and when you can take the train its about 30 minutes. Inexplicably the trains to Newark stop at 430 pm, which left me with a choice of an hour long bus ride or driving to the game. Cant speak for other areas, but Hackensack isnt in the middle of nowhere (about 5 miles from the GWB) so this always puzzled me, although from above comments it seems like its a problem.

by drhgzang on Jan 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

I never found a problem with how NJ Transit is set up for games. At least for my purposes. For my trip home, I have to wait a little bit on the train after the game before leaving. But it means I don’t need to rush out of the arena either. NJ Transit wasn’t built for Devils games, but they could use them as a tool to do some upgrades and make some more money, since they get a lot more traffic than normal on gamedays.

by dyhrdmet on Jan 4, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, so the players need to be marketed

This great so far; and the lack of player marketing is a common sentiment; so let’s take it a step further:

How should the players be marketed? What can you show off in a commercial? Highlights? Numbers? A profile of the player?

Also: I didn’t know transportation is still an issue. Though I fear that’s more of a NJTransit problem than anything the Devils can do. I don’t suppose if it’s odd for the Devils to at least arrange something for those getting off at Broad St.

Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!

by John Fischer on Jan 4, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

trains, planes, and automobiles

I think the Devils or NJ Transit do have something running to Broad St. Station, but it’s Newark, and I don’t know if I’d want to use it. I’d almost rather walk to Penn Station, ride up to Secacus, and transfer to one of the other lines (which may involve another transfer at Broad St.). That’s where the Devils and NJ Transit can work together to have trains run between Broad St and Penn Station on gamedays, and connecting directly to Montclair and Morris & Essex lines at little extra cost to the riders.

by dyhrdmet on Jan 4, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

player marketing

It’s a very tough thing to do for a couple of reasons. The first is that I don’t think most people will still care even after seeing a Parise highlight real and to be honest, we don’t have many “wow” goals that non-hockey fans will appreciate. The second reason, as i previously stated, it goes against the team system I previously mentioned which has been set up. I don’t think that Lou wants players to be seen as more important than the team, one can say that was part of the reason Gomez left.

In my opinion the best thing which can be done, and it seems they are doing, is to create fans at the youngest ages. Creating fans at the youngest fans helps raise attendance over the years and when kids go to games they also have to bring their parents. This is done by creating affordable birthday parties (how many parents can afford 10 kids and a few parents to a game?), having players visit youth hockey teams and schools, mites on ice, etc. The team can also market more for college students, which the have done as well as high schools. At the end of the year they can try and organize a senior week or project graduation type event at either high school or college level to the game tied in with public skating.

I don’t have a marketing degree but I think these would be some effective ways, and like I said, the target audience has to be the youth.

by dsarch on Jan 4, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

attendance

while there a things we can point to that keep people from attending games – how about spreading our love and passion for the game and our Devils by bringing non-puck heads to games whenever we can? I share the frustration of going to Rangers/Flyers games and seeing as many (or more) rival team fans – not what our guys deserve!

So – bring a buddy!

by PeterB on Jan 4, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Complex Issue

In my opinion, ticket prices have a lot to do with attendance issues. The areas in which attendance seems to be sparse, are the 100 level (along the sides of the ice) and the center sections of the 200 level. I was thinking about it at today’s game that if the highest price in the 200 level was $30, and there were say 6 rows of the balcony in where tickets were $40, attendance might improve.

The $10 tickets, in which I’ve gotten more than ten times in the year and a half since the Devils moved are a great deal. They usually seem to sell out. Additionally I take advantage of as many AAA, NJTransit, etc. discounts where the balcony seats are discounted to $35. If you could get season tickets in the balcony, for $35 a game, I think that I would do that. However, I’m not inclined to get season tickets in the black for $25 when I can get better seats for many games for only a little more. I still make it to many, if not most games, but ticket prices do influence my decision to attend and I’m a big fan. I think the casual fan is turned off by the ticket prices even if they don’t realize how good a product they get for the money. When I was younger, and my family didn’t have disposal income, we were lucky to make it to 2-3 games a year. We wanted to go to more but we just couldn’t afford it. Now, we are able to get to more games but it is still expensive.

Another turn off for people is parking. I think that when people have to spend an additional $15-$20 to park it hits them harder than even the price of the tickets. I’m lucky because I go to law school in Newark and have a monthly pass for school that I use for games so I don’t have to pay to park, however I know that many people are outraged at the price of parking. After graduation, I can see the number of games I go to declining in part due to work, but also in part because parking will become the equivalent of buying another ticket.

Ultimately, a bigger problem might be that there aren’t that many fans of hockey as other sports. Personally, there is no other sport I would want to attend live, but I think that a lot of people just don’t care that much about the Devils. There are a lot of fans who make an appearance once a year, but they don’t care enough about the sport to make it to a bunch of games a year. I don’t know whether marketing or cheaper tickets will fix the problem that people don’t really care for hockey that much. Most of my friends have little or no interest in going to a Devils game. Today, they were all more interested in Wild Card Sunday than a Devils game in Newark. I truly don’t know whether there is anything the Devils can do to combat an overall lack of interest.

As a final observation, the crowd on Saturday night was one of the best I have ever been apart of. I won’t go to a Devils/Ranger or Devils/Flyers game because I really don’t enjoy it. I don’t like people throwing beer at each other, screaming obscenities, and fights breaking out around me. I’m 23, love the Devils, but I have no interest in fighting someone over the fact that I don’t like the Rangers. I also don’t enjoy getting beer thrown at me or having people do nothing but curse the whole time. It was beyond refreshing on Friday night to have a group of fans who rooted for their team but were really pleasant to be around. We had more friendly conversations with Canadiens fans in the course of one evening than I’ve had all season with Devils fans. The atmosphere in the arena was great with the crowd really into the game. I’ll be at the next Montreal game and hope that the crowd if just as big.

by TimD on Jan 4, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

This is all really excellent.

I’m very heartened to see some well-thought out reasons in here about the issue. I’m going to keep linking to it throughout the week and this weekend, I’ll try to see if I can summarize all this up into some kind of an idea.

I’ve lived in NJ all my life, I really should have not been so naive to forget that transportation is always an issue to get anywhere.

In the meantime, esp. after the Ottawa game, I’m really thinking the Devils need to at least cut prices in the upper section. Gaps in the lower bowl is defensible; but you’d have to think the upper level should be cheaper. Does section 110 really need to be the same price as the upper half of section 1, $95/game? Does the balcony behind each goal really need to be $70? I doubt it and I see those areas be even more sparse than the club seats on some nights!

Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!

by John Fischer on Jan 5, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

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