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Madden and Gionta Want to Stay, But at What Cost?

There isn't a whole lot going on today.  According to Chere, Brent Sutter felt it was best to have the team take 2 days away from the rink before getting back to it on Thursday.  Given that they just played 5 games in 7 days, fair enough.  However, the schedule nor the playoffs really call for a nice easy schedule.  Given the Devils recent problems at penalty killing, I kind of wanted to see a statement being made about trying to get it togther.  I suppose Thursday will have to suffice for that.  At least Patrik Elias can be upgraded to likely for Chicago, according a later Chere report.

But the most interesting thing to come from Chere today is actually a bit ahead of itself. It's really about two of the big decisions the Devils will have to make for the offseason: Brian Gionta and John Madden.  According to Chere, both players would like to stay in New Jersey. Given their current deals of $4 million/year (Gionta) and $3 million/year (Madden), I can't imagine they'll remain as Devils for the same price.

 

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The issue is two-fold with each player: how they have been performing and how they fit into the Devils' salary cap.   Let's start with Brian Gionta.  Currently, he has been making $4 million/year and his goal totals have fallen.  He signed this contract after reaching his career peak - and franchise single season record - of 48 goals.  Gionta was a 5'7" monster with 48 goals and 41 assists.  Unfortunately, Gionta has yet to come close to those amounts as he has scored 25, 22, and currently has 18.  Granted, his point totals have increased from 45, 53, to a current total of 55.  He's involved in plays, but it's a big disappointment when a guy who once scored 48 in a season is struggling to score even 25.  Based on the monster season that got him this contract,  I'd say he hasn't lived up to it.


GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2008 - Brian Gionta 72 18 37 55 15 32 3 3 1 0 219 8.2

But again, he wants to stay.  And he is only 30.  He's got a few years still in him and if he can catch fire with consistent linemates, Gionta can be the scoring threat he was 4 seasons ago.  Langenbrunner has put up numbers in a similar way.  It's not unthinkable that the same could happen to Gionta. On the other hand, Gionta has been consistently with Patrik Elias and Dainius Zubrus up until recently and he's on pace to have his lowest goal scoring season since 2003-04. In fact, even with recent changes, Gionta is still playing with Elias, who is having a point-per-game season.  Yet, Gionta continues to annoyingly miss on finishing chances.

Now John Madden is a harder one to figure out.  His main role is to be a checking center.  He doesn't normally put up a lot of points.  Madden's main responsibilities are to cover forwards, help out on the penalty kill, and give the opposition a little something to worry about when he does get a chance to counter attack.   This quote from Chere really sums it up:

Madden, 35, is earning just under $3 million this season. His defensive play, faceoff ability and penalty-killing have been at the heart of the Devils' success over the past decade. But his role hasn't always been clear this season and he admits he hasn't played well enough to satisfy himself.

Inconsistent linemates, inconsistent play from longtime linemate Jay Pandolfo, and a general weakness on the penalty kill overall has hurt Madden this season.   Especially the penalty kill, which is currently at a 79.9% effectiveness rate over the whole season.

That said, he is having a good year at the faceoff dot with 51.5% faceoffs won (only Travis Zajac is better on the team with 52.9%).  And Madden isn't really having that bad of a year; Mirtle has him listed among top defensive forwards in the league based on his analysis.  OK, we'd like to see Madden higher up, but he's there.  He's also a battled-hardened veteran of the playoffs.  Madden has the proverbial heart and tenacity that is needed in the postseason. 

Madden's been paid just under $3 million/year and I'd say he's justified his contract for the most part - this season aside.  However, one last parting shot, Madden will be turning 36.  Who knows how much he'll have left regardless of where he plays?

While I (tried to, at least) summarized how each player has done; let's look at the numbers.  According to NHL Numbers, the Devils have 13 players under contract for next season with an estimated cap hit of 39.908 million.  There are needs the Devils must fill.  The biggest one relevant to Madden and Gionta, the Devils need to keep Johnny Oduya - who is in line for a big pay raise for 2009-10.  Mirtle's noted that he's one of the top defenders in the league, a testament to how much improvement he has made.  I would think $3 million/year would be more than valid for Oduya.  Also, don't forget that Travis Zajac is a restricted free agent and he's definitely deserving of an increased salary.

Unfortunately, Oduya is an unrestricted free agent like Madden and Gionta.  I don't think either really takes priority over Oduya.  Especially if the Devils bank on Brian Rolston as a top 6 forward for next season.  After all, Rolston's better on the right wing, which just happens to be Gionta's position.

Personally, I would think that signing both Madden and Gionta to similar deals to what they have would make little sense for the Devils.  It would only tie up salary and hamper the team through 2009-10 and perhaps beyond. Though, if Holik and Shanahan aren't retained, that'll free up some more money. Even then, I think it would be wise to save that money for more deserving players (e.g. Zajac, Oduya, a free agent offensive defenseman, etc.).

From a performance standpoint, Gionta isn't playing like a $4 million scoring winger, due to his dwindling goal scoring, and Madden may not be a $3 million checking center for much longer, due to his age.  Yes, I understand that the playoffs change everything.  If Gionta becomes a Goal Scoring Machine en route to the Cup, fine, a bigger deal will be justified.   I wouldn't have a problem with that.  And I'm sure both agents are ready to point to Dainius Zubrus ($3.4 million/year) and Jay Pandolfo ($2.5 million/year) for comparison purposes negotiations.  But I'm not interested in comparisons; on their own, I think the Devils should only retain Madden and/or Gionta if they are willing to play for less.  Given that they want to be here, that is certainly a possibility.

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Gionta and Madden

i think not keeping GIONTA would be a big mistake. He is a Devil and should stay one. Also MADDEN deserves to stay also he does alot of things that the numbers do not show. I would be surprised if Shanahan goes another year. Zubrus as far as I am concerned has been a big dissapointment. I was expecting alot more from him when they signed him. They need to pick up another young scorer and a offensive defenceman. I would be surprised to see Pandolfo there next year even though I am a big fan of his.

Donald Vasquez

by don_vas on Mar 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't be surprised

Pandolfo is signed through the 2010-11 season – with a no trade clause. Expect to see him until then.

Young scorers aren’t cheap, I’ll give up Gionta for a young scorer, though.

Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!

by John Fischer on Mar 25, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

As always excellent article… I agree, before even addressing Gionta and Madden the Devils must sign Oduya (depending on playoff performance max = 3.5 mil, but hopefully more in the 2.5 – 3 mil range). The other issue is the cap, which shouldnt drop too much next year but could fall considerably the season after. With this in mind Id say Madden to a one year deal, for less than he’s making now, especially if Holik doesnt come back.

Gionta is obviously much trickier. He hasnt lived up to the contract, which I actually think he was the following season until he got injured and missed about 15-20 games I think. He wasnt going to hit 48 but he looked good for 35 before the injury, his game was off when he came back. That’s not an explanation for last or this seasons totals. Yet, he is still a very effective offensive player and continues to at least create plays with his speed and ability to slip under bigger defenders, and his assists are fairly high. You also make a great point about Langenbrunner, who was fairly ineffective offensively for a few years until he was put on a line with Parise and Zajac. Considering this alone make it wise to keep Gionta for the right price and as with Madden if he stays it has to be for less than 4 mil, barring an explosion of unforseen proportions in the playoffs (and even then you kind of know its an anomaly but have to do it anyway, see: Pisani, Fernando, and a slew of others).

I think they can keep both Madden and Gionta if they both take pay cuts and Madden’s deal is for 1 year. If you let one of them walk its probably Gionta, only because he’d likely be replaced with a top 6 (and hopefully slightly younger) forward.

by drhgzang on Mar 25, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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