Free Agent Defensemen & the Devils: Johnny Oduya
So far, I've taken a stab at the possibilities and realities of the Devils signing Jay Bouwmeester, Scott Niedermayer, and Mattias Ohlund. Of those three, Ohlund is the most likely to be signed without killing the Devils' budget; but the one caveat for him is that his cost could be inflated as he'll be sought after Bouwmeester goes. It just occurred to me that there is one defenseman available that could fall to that same fate.
And unfortunately, it's the Devils' own Johnny Oduya.
It's actually going to be worse because Oduya has the advantage of being under 30 years old and still improving as a defenseman in the NHL. Add to the fact that he didn't even make a million per year and that he's due for a raise, and you can already see teams lining up to see if they can get a relative bargain for Johnny O.
Honestly, I wasn't sure what to expect when he came over from Frolunda 2 seasons ago, but he definitely showed some potential. In that 2006-07 season, when the Devils defense was set back by injuries and being right up against the cap, Oduya came through playing on the top 4 despite his usual position on the third pairing. That season he played 76 games, earned 11 points, and averaged 18:36 a night.
In the following season, Brent Sutter became the head coach and Oduya looked to make an impression. He definitely did, despite seemingly falling down on the ice at least once per game for the first 3 months of the season! While the Devils eventually piled up 9 defensemen, Oduya remained in the rotation with 76 games played, cut down on penalty minutes (61 to 46), and earned more ice time, an average 19:30 per game. Oduya also contributed more on offense with 6 goals and 20 assists - the second most among all Devils that season. It was near the end of that season where he started some games with Paul Martin.
It was a sign of things to come, as Oduya spent this past season playing with the Devils' top defender on the first pairing. While it's arguable as to whether Oduya is a true #2 defenseman (I don't think he is), he definitely fit in on the top pairing in the Devils' set-up. Oduya averaged 20:39 per game, played in every game, reduced his penalty minutes again (46 to 30), and further increased his offensive production to 7 goals and 22 assists. While he was often out on the ice with either of the top scoring lines, his even strength numbers at Behind the Net are very complimentary. Highest CORSI among defensemen; second highest quality of competition (tied with Colin White); third lowest shots against when on the ice per 60 minutes (behind White and Martin); and so forth. And to cap it all off, he's coming off a strong tournament with Sweden at the World Championships, where he stepped in and contributed right away.
As reported by Rich Chere a few weeks ago, his agent is quite right, Oduya is definitely a top four defenseman in this league!
And he could be better in coming seasons. Oduya isn't a banger or a defensive stalwart or an offensive dynamo. This is apparent if you see him play or his numbers. He is a two-way defenseman, he's a solid skater, and most importantly, I think he's still getting better. While he's 27, he's entering his fourth season of NHL hockey. His decision making will only get better as will his confidence at leading the breakouts. He may not be a top pairing guy throughout the league and he may not hit that level, but he can definitely step up when necessary. I still stand by my earlier statement that among all the UFAs that the Devils have this summer, Oduya is the one the Devils should make the strongest effort to sign. A must-sign, if you will.
It's not like the Devils can gain much from Oduya going elsewhere anyway. They'll save 0.6 million from the cap - which is close to the league minimum - and have a big hole next to Paul Martin on the blueline they'll have to fill in somehow.
The big obstacle to retaining Oduya is Oduya himself. He's unrestricted so the decision is entirely up to him - not Lou Lamoriello, not Brent Sutter, not you or me or that sketchy dude on the corner. He hasn't said much of anything regarding whether he sees himself in Devils red for a few more years. For an optimist, you can interpret that as that he hasn't said anything about bolting either. Still, he's going to get quite a lot more money next season and it'll be up to Lou whether to offer him a fair amount.
What that would be, I'm not sure I feel giving him a Colin White-esque deal (e.g. $3.5 million for 4 years, somewhere around there) would be fair and probably entice himself to stay. But again, consider his age, the fact that he has improved with every season, and has just came off a season where he was on the top pairing with the New Jersey Devils. Some teams could very well throw $4 million/year or more and hope it sticks. Per Chere's article with Don Meehan's (Oduya's agent) comments, Oduya would be meeting with his agent within 2 weeks of the article. So that would be before the end of this month. Hopefully, it'll be a productive meeting!
Personally, I would really like Oduya to re-sign because A) he is an asset to the defense, B) we know what we're getting with Oduya so there won't be a learning curve to the system, C) he's not going to break the Devils' salary cap even if he gets $4 million/year (which is a bit much, but go with it) and D) the Devils can spend their efforts focusing on improving that #4 spot that Mike Mottau/Andy Greene currently sit at on the depth chart. And there are lot more #3/#4s available than #1/#2s this summer. I'd love it if he tells his agent and Lou that he wants to be a Devil and a deal can be made without too much of a problem.
Yet, he can make quite a bit this summer and if he lingers on his decision. With the dearth of top-pairing-capable defensemen on the market that aren't over 35 this summer, who knows if he'll get the same chances a few years from now should he become a free agent? He's going to have a lot of suitors this summer and I'm sure Meehan is making this clear to Oduya if Johnny isn't already aware. If he's looking to test the market, I can't fully begrudge him - unless he waffles on this decision, force the Devils to hesitate on their various offers, and leave Lou with "what's left" after Oduya and a big hole next to Martin. Then I'll begrudge him. Even so, my point is that he could get lured away and that's going to be the biggest problem.
It's all up to Oduya. Hopefully, he can make a prompt and decisive decision and inform Lou either way.
In the meantime, have your say about Oduya staying a Devil? Do you think he should stay, forcing the Devils to look for an upgrade on their second pairing? Do you think Oduya will get better in his fourth NHL season? Do you think the Devils should forget about him and swing for that "home run" anyway? Do you think I should do Christian Backman next and continue a streak of Swedish defensmen in these write ups? Leave your thoughts in the comments.
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THIS IS A KEEPER.
The devils should make a real commitment to this player in $ and yrs.. should he leave it would be a huge loss. defenseman are on the endangered species list.I think he will score close to 15 goals next season and get closer to 30 asssists.
by Imperator_Celtic on May 21, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
Oduya is a really frustrating player to me.
He constantly shows flashes, especially offensively, but can’t bring it on a consistent basis. I think he’s great on the break out, particularly pushing it into the zone. But again, I think we need to see more of that. I definitely wouldn’t complain if we kept him, but I wouldn’t be upset if he left and we got someone like Backman instead.
I think he has gotten better on that front – he’s increased his shots on goal with every season too. With more time, he’ll know when to push up and when to hang back. That’s part of why this will be so hard – he’s not just in his prime, but he’ll be getting better at the position.
Funny you bring up Backman though…
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by John Fischer on May 22, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oduya must be signed..
Johnny Oduya is a good young defenseman who improves his game every year. He just needs to shoot the puck more often. He is a plus hockey player who plays a good defensive game.. He will only get better as he goes along and he grew up in the Devils system. They need to resign him..
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Johnny Oduya
It looks like you have about $1.5 mil in cap space unless you dump salary. Christian Ehrhoff of the Sharks is a comparable player and had the same experience going into his UFA year last year. He re-signed with SJ for 3 year. $9.3 mil or $3.1 mil a year. I am guessing that he is $2.5 – $3.5 mil depending on how sold teams are on his top four cred. I read an article in which Lou pretty much said that he’d like to keep Oduya but he could understand if Oduya wanted to make his money. That tells me that JO is unlikely to be in a Devs uni next year. Love to see my Isles draft Big Victor AND sign Johnny. That would transform the D and give Victor a natural mentor.
seriously.
do u think he would want to be on the isle? i could understand the wings or a serious contender but the isle?
by Imperator_Celtic on May 26, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
Money has a strange way of convincing people. Besides, Oduya would be a #2 there and probably could command a little more money. It’s not that far-fetched of an idea assuming Johnny O doesn’t mind looking up at the wrong end of the standings for a few (many) seasons.
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by John Fischer on May 26, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not just about money
There are several considerations here. Oduya might decide that the Devs might need to do some rebuilding of their own before they can contend seriously for the Cup again. Also, if Hedman is chosen, he will be the first Swede chosen #1 overall since Sundin 19 years ago. Being able to mentor such a player might have some appeal to him. Playing under Gordon’s system might have appeal. Also, Oduya might decide that with the Isles getting some sterling talent in this draft and the next and that they might be a real contender three to four years down the road.
lets hope he has the heart of a winner.
as many seasons as he sighned for most likely.losing sucks,he would regret that move within months. but i personally think he is worth up to 4 mil. too keep as a devil.
by Imperator_Celtic on May 26, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
That's the rub
Oduya is probably worth $2.5 mil to $3.5 mil. He can probably GET $3.5 TO $4 mil. From reading Lou’s comments, he probably has a max amount he is prepared to pay Oduya but has already calculated that other teams will pay him more than that number.
were back were we started then
if he wants too be part of winning 50 games and a shot at the playoffs he will stick with the devils,if he only wnats money then atlanta,the isle,or mabey tampa ,phx or (u get my point some teams have been rebuilding almost my entire lifetime) would be a good choice for him but he will then take part in winning 25 games.no playoffs either.
by Imperator_Celtic on May 26, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Hmmmm...your point?
Don’t know how old you are, but the Lightning won the Cup in 2004. The Thrashers have just started to rebuild as they have recently lost some big name talent to FA. Their fans (I have chatted with some on their thread) look at Waddell the same way Isle fans look at Mike Milbury. Snow and Jankowski are not Mad Mike. They seem to know what they are doing. I can see them building a very competitive team in a few years.
As for the Devs, I like them—unlike our metro area rivals who I despise. I hate to say it, but I think that—like the booshirts—you have a team that will go to the playoffs but will not go very far. Both teams will need some rebuilding before they can hope to get past the second round. The advantage you have over the booshirts is that you have a guy running your organization who knows how to get there. One issue you have is that Marty’s game has declined. Weekes you need to get rid of and Clemmensen is a UFA. In fact, Newsday’s Islander beat writer has mentioned him as a possible target in the Isles’ search for a quality backup to DP which is their #1 goal in FA this summer.
i agree bout broduer, the last 2 playoffs could scare away ufa’s.when u say sterling talent down the road all i can think of is all the talent the isles have had in the past.never seems too come together.mabey for a season but never extended.they were good when i was like 5 6 7 mabey up to 10 havent really seen them much in the last 20 yrs or so.mabey this will be the year its not as if i want them too suck.
by Imperator_Celtic on May 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
Big thing is you have Lou
Isles started downhill in early 90s when an idiot owner took over and fired our Lou—Bill Torrey. We had a succession of owners who only looked at the bottom line and not at building a winner. Then came Mad Mike. His big problem was a lack of vision. He was going to build around the goaltender. Fine, but then he would change his goaltender like he changed shirts. He traded away Bryan McCabe and Ziggy Palffy. He traded away Bryan Berard when he was an elite defenseman for Felix Potvin who was a bust. He traded away Zdeno Chara and the draft pick that became Jason Spezza for Yashin. He traded away Roberto Luongo and used the 2000 #1 overall for DP when he could have picked Heatley. In 2003, he chose Robert Nilsson over Zach Parise, Ryan Getzlaff, and a number or other more talented guys. So over the past 10 years, the Isles could have fielded talent like Luongo, Heatley, Spezza, Getzlaff, McCabe and others. Now at last we have people who know what they are doing.
You have Lou and that is a big advantage. It looks as if Lou was counting on Jeff Frazee (a DP style goalie) to step into Marty’s skates but he has been a disappointment. I would not be surprised if Lou selected a goaltender prospect with your #1 pick. Meantime, with Weekes and Clemmensen going UFA this year, he has a decision to make about a backup. My guess, however, is that you are not likely to go past the second round until you develop a first class replacement for Marty.

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