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NHL.com Reports Sutter to Calgary; Has Lamoriello Given Permission?

The speculation of Brent Sutter of becoming head coach of the Calgary Flames is growing so strong, even NHL.com had to report on it today.  It's a brief news article, and almost identical to the one put up by TSN over the weekend.  But that it's on the league's site gives it further credibility.  Either way, I want to point out two sections of it. Let's take the latter one first:

Sutter cited personal and family concerns as his reason for leaving the Devils. His family had remained in Red Deer, Alta., during his two seasons in New Jersey. Sutter also owns the Western Hockey League's Red Deer Rebels and has a farm in Red Deer. Sutter's brother Darryl is the GM of the Flames and recently fired coach Mike Keenan after a disappointing first-round playoff loss.

The staff at NHL.com were misled here, but it's not their fault, we all were misled by Mr. Sutter.  He waited until less than a month before free agency began to tell us it all had to do with his family and personal interests. That there is talk of him coaching the Flames is evidence that talk could be ultimately little more than a misdirection, a falsehood, and a lie.

Here's the more pertinent part:

TSN says the hiring could become official as early as Tuesday.

Sutter stepped down as coach of the New Jersey Devils on June 9 despite having one year remaining on his contract. In order for Sutter to move to the Flames, New Jersey President and General Manager Lou Lamoriello would have to give his permission.

This raises more questions.  Does this mean that  Lou hasn't given permission yet?  Or perhaps he already granted permission, given that it could be as official as early as tomorrow?  If so, was there a deal of sorts made, or perhaps one to come? Was Lou just being nice awfully-generous "classy" to let Sutter leave his contract and coach elsewhere?  I suppose we won't find out for sure until tomorrow.  Again, given that the league's site is sure enough to state that this could happen tomorrow, I fear that Lou has allowed move unless someone somewhere got their reports wrong.

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While Sutter is definitely not coming back to the Devils' bench next season, or ever again, a part of me would like to see Lou block this completely.  It's not like Calgary owes the Devils anything nor can it be used for leverage for a later deal.  Yeah, to you and me, Lou is doing Darryl Sutter a solid by freeing a successful (in the regular season) head coach from a contract he signed of his own volition.  But Darryl Sutter could just turn around and not see it as a favor.  Brent did resign and, hey, he just wanted to come to the Flames and Lou said OK, so no problem, right?  Like I said, nowhere is it written that Calgary has to provide some benefit the Devils for this move.   So why should Lou grant permission for nothing in return?  I would like to see Lou essentially force Brent to actually be with his family and his ranch and with the Red Deer Rebels for a year - after all, he said he resigned for these personal and family reasons.  I don't see why Lou shouldn't give him the chance to, you know, have him actually prove it. 

But since Rich Chere did state that Lou was likely to let Sutter go, and what I said earlier, my hopes will probably go unfulfilled.  Chere tried to get Lou's take on this and, unsurprisingly, got a terse response:

"I'm not going to have any comment on that situation until something happens or doesn't happen," Lamoriello told me [Chere] Monday afternoon. "Until there is an official announcement one way or the other -- and don't misinterpret that -- I'm going to withhold any comments."

Is he angry with Sutter?

"I'm going to stick with what I just said," Lamoriello said. "Then I will comment."

Again, I repeat myself, we just won't know until tomorrow.  I'm confident Lou knows more than he's letting on, but it's not prudent to mention it now, I suppose.

I don't blame Lou to be honest if he is angry. The NHL Draft is this week, free agency begins in 9 days, and the Devils are head coach-less.  Lou bent over backwards with Sutter's need to go back home and think about whether to fulfill this contract that he signed, only for him to make his fateful decision to resign so close to these important dates in the offseason. Oh, and to turn around a little later and talk to another NHL team about being their head coach.  If I were in Lou's shoes, I'd be more than a little miffed too.  (Admittedly, I'd be more vocal about it; but hey, I am a blogger - it comes with the role.)

Either way, Lou provided the status of the Devils coaching situation: there is no coach right now.  I agree with Gulitti's article at NorthJersey.com, it's probably not going to be John MacLean. Lou could have named him immediately after Sutter provided his resignation. That he hasn't says it all, in my opinon.   Who knows if it's Jacques Lemaire at this point or someone entirely different.  Knowing Lou, he's already got candidates lined up and he's already in the decision making process.   If you'll indulge me in some speculation, given that Chere said that Lou's already been talking with the agents of some free agent Devils, perhaps the process is a bit father along than you and I may think.   It's obviously some multi-tasking, but I don't think Lou starts talking to any agents without having made some progress on a head coach.

Leave your comments and thoughts about the whole situation. Do you think Lou has already given permission, or do you hold out hope that he hasn't?  I know some of you may not be happy about this - I'm not! - but do keep it clean.  And please don't state any news without any links or sources. This isn't a rumor site.

6/23 Update: Calgary is having a news conference in...a minute about a coach.   I think it's safe to say Lou must have given permission.  Question is: will the Devils actually get anything out of it?  Remember, Calgary doesn't really owe New Jersey anything; so don't be too torn if the answer is "nothing."

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uhhh….. Where do I start??? You know what let Sutter do whatever he wants I don’t care anymore. But I still think Lou should say the hell (sorry) with you Brent NO. He lied to him. Lou should be angry with him. Plus, he is holding back talks with our free agents. I think everyone is turning away. Madden said before Sutter was thinking ‘about his family’ that the Devils were his first pick and now he testing the market. You know Oduya is going to get a lot of offers from teams and we didn’t even talk to him yet. The Draft is friday and free agency is on July 1st and we still don’t have a head coach. I think Lou will make the right decision soon. Hopefully a good head coach like Haviland or do I dare say Lemaire. Since Laviolette is talking to Calgary about assistant coaching.

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 22, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

  • talks have started with oduya. I saw an article not too long ago (end of last week)

by skly27 on Jun 23, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well thats great. Finally we get to talk to our agents. Devs should only sign Oduya or Madden. Gionta is going to want 4 to 5 million.

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laviolette

Laviolette to Calgary was already confirmed as false, stop bringing it up

by Zelepukin on Jun 22, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is everyone surprised???

This is all panning out exactly like I suspected. Leaving the Devils after Keenan was let go and having his brother involved. Calgary being close to home it all makes sense. What does not make sense to me is the way Lou is reacting to this.. Guess we will just have to wait this one out and see what happens…

Donald Vasquez

by don_vas on Jun 22, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Bitter over Sutter

A word of advice to anyone really upset over Sutter and how this went down and Lou’s reactions so far… just look to the name of this blog. Have faith in the man that there is a plan and a reason for every single thing he’s doing

by Zelepukin on Jun 23, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Long time coming?

Lou’s reactions (or non-reactions) to the whole situation makes me wonder if this was an already agreed-upon deal that may have started as early as last summer. I wonder if Sutter was miserable after 07-08 and expressed a desire to quit after one year. Maybe Lou requested he give it one more year and then, if he still felt as homesick, would let him go without asking for any compensation?

by John H on Jun 23, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Lou wouldn’t get any compensation. People have been saying he wouldn’t get anything. I know it sucks………

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh by the way…. Great pick at the mock draft. I agree de Haan would be a good pick by the Devils. Well we just have to wait and see if de Haan ends up in Devils red on friday!!!!

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Must get compensation

If Brent is going to coach in Calgary this year, the Devils had better be getting a draft pick or player in return. What’s wrong with that? It’s just like what TB did with Gruden and the Jets did with Belichick. Sorry, I don’t have an NHL reference off head where that happened, but there’s nothing preventing it, is there?

by TNYFBG on Jun 23, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope.

The Devils would only be entitled to compensation if Calgary approached him while he was actively coaching New Jersey and under contract. Sutter has resigned though, so the Devils are not due compensation. Only permission has to be granted by Lou for a move to go through:

Tom Gulitti broke it down when Sutter stepped down:

I posted this in the post following Sutter’s conference call, but thought I’d repeat it here because some of you probably missed it.

According to NHL bylaws, once a team grants permission to another team to speak to a coach that is under contract, there is no compenstion involved. The coach is free of his contractual obligations. The team can try to entice the other team (the Devils) to grant them permission, however, by offering compensation.

In other words, if the Flames were to ask permission to speak with Sutter and Lamoriello granted it, Sutter would be free from his contractual obligations to the Devils (as far as the Flames are concerned) and the Flames would not have to give up compensation to hire him. If Sutter didn’t become the Flames’ coach after that, he would still be under contract with the Devils and any other team wishing to hire him would have to seek permission from them first.

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by John Fischer on Jun 23, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for setting me straight....

Did not know the rules, apologize for my ignorance… Now, is there anything preventing them from doing an under-the-table deal where Lou says he’ll release Brent if the Flames push through a trade that’s stacked to the Devils favor? If not, I only really see this two ways… One, Lou knew all along that Brent was going back for the Flames job and decided he was okay with it. Or Two, Brent basically screwed over Lou and now Lou is pissed. This has nothing to do with not having faith in him to make the right decision, it just seems horribly unfair that any coach can reneg on a contract only to be free to sign wherever he wants. I just don’t see what motivation Lou would have for granting the release unless he knew all along. I’m very curious to see how this turns out… GO DEVS!

by TNYFBG on Jun 23, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, under the table would sort of imply that it can’t be prevented; but of course it can’t be discovered either.

Anyway, given the quotes from Lou after it occurred, he doesn’t seem angry – just resigned to the situation. Basically, while you and I would probably would have enjoyed Sutter sitting for a year, Lou and the Devils don’t get much out of spiting him. He can’t ask for compensation, so he cut his losses, so to speak.

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by John Fischer on Jun 23, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes there is….. I don’t know what but John said Lou win’t get anything if Sutter decides to go to Calgary. He has to give permission to Sutter to go to the Flames. I don’t know if Lou told him he could it has been a secret the whole time….

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 23, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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