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Free Agent Defenseman & the Devils: Dennis Seidenberg

As this feature closes, I note that there are a few under-30 defensemen who are listed as unrestricted free agents for this summer at NHL Numbers.  Most of them have an issue, one way or another that doesn't warrant an in depth look.  For example:

And then I discovered someone who is worth a further look: Dennis Seidenberg.

 

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While the wounds from the first round loss to Carolina may still be too fresh, I think that Seidenberg is definitely worth serious interest.


Dennis Seidenberg

#4 / Defenseman / Carolina Hurricanes

6-1

210

Jul 18, 1981

2008-09 Salary: $1.4 million



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2008 - Dennis Seidenberg 70 5 25 30 -9 37 2 0 1 0 129 3.9

Seidenberg is coming off a career season in points, shots, games played, and in average ice time with 22:19 per game.  And he did all with more than just a little grit too.  The defenseman is necessarily big, but he knew how to use his body last season.  He had 146 hits, which was the second most among Canes defenders and fourth on team; and he stepped up to block 160 shots, which led the team.  All this and with only 37 penalty minutes - a career high for him, but still very low.  Oh, and as far as his even strength numbers at Behind the Net go, they are mostly OK: the shots against per 60 minutes fell from 27.2 to 26.0 when Seidenberg hit the ice; and the goals against per 60  remained unchanged at 2.36, which is pretty low to begin with.  These are all positives, to say the least!

There's usually two lines of thought when it comes to this sort of thing, which just happens to happen to some players in the last year of their contract.  The first is pessisism, the player ups his performance for next contract and then falls back into bad habits. The second is optimism, that the player has "broke out" and will continue to get better.  Given his career so far, I am on the "optimism" side with respect to Seidenberg.  He finally got to play a full season and he earned significant minutes with his play, which led to his career highs in goals and assists.

With respect to how the fans of his last team saw him, Bubba, Cory, and Scott of Canes Country all had praise for the defender.  Scott stated that he's hitting the peak of his career; Bubba notes that despite some plus/minus shortcomings, he would be an upgrade over Frantisek Kaberle and Niclas Wallin; and Cory notes that he's a top 4 defenseman whilst lamenting that their cap situation.    Ultimately, this leads me into the first issue I have with the idea of Seidenberg as a Devil.  Like Oduya, Komisarek, et. al., Seidenberg can stand to get some crazy money soon.   Cory brought up Ron Hainsey as an example of a young defender who put up some good numbers and walked away with $4.5 million per year with Atlanta.   Cory and Bubba aren't expecting that much money, but think he will be worth about $3 million.  As such, they're not expecting a return of Seidenberg to Carolina.   

I can see the Devils spending $3 million for a top 4 defender, the question is whether A) will they spend that much if they are also going to give similar money to Johnny Oduya and B) who won't they sign as a result of the potential $6+ million spent on two defenders?  Of course, I'm assuming the Devils will be able to keep Oduya.  If his price stays around $3 million, then I don't have too much of a problem with him as a Devil. If it becomes $4 million or more, then I think that's too much unless Oduya's definitely not coming back and the Devils need to ensure Seidenberg's signature.  I don't think he'll get that much, though.

The second issue I have with Seidenberg is his strength.  This is called out on his player page as a weakness and I can attest to it being true from what I've seen of him this season. While he looked great going forward for Carolina against New Jersey, like the rest the Canes, he struggled when the Devils battled hard down low and along the boards.    It's a bit odd that strength would be the problem for a guy who throws plenty of hits and gets in front of shots.  Fortunately, it's an issue that I would think can be addressed wherever he goes.   Pretty much every team has strength & conditioning coaches as well as a gym of sorts, after all.

The final issue I have with Seidenberg is something that he may not be able to address: health.  While he got 70 games in this season plus the playoffs, he suffered a groin injury, an "undisclosed" injury, and a "lower body injury."  In prior seasons, he had an ankle injury, injuries to both knees, a broken right wrist, and a concussion.   These all occurred over a stretch of 4 seasons and only the ankle injury kept him out for more than 10 games.  Still, it's more than a handful of minor injuries he suffered before he's even turned 28!  While I don't think his health should destroy the possibility of becoming a New Jersey Devil, I do hope for his own sake that they are kept few and far between.  It's something I'd express caution over, really.

Overall, I really like the possibility of Seidenberg as a Devil.  He stayed healthy, he earned big minutes, and he put up a good number of points.  He has offensive tools, he's finally figured out how to best use them (as he finally got play enough to do so), and he's not afraid to get involved in physical play.  I feel he would be a definite upgrade from Mottau on the Devils' top 4 as a two-way defenseman.  He's not perfect, but I'm not finding myself wondering whether he can play defense (Bergeron), how much the player has left in terms of effectivness (Aucoin), whether he fills a need despite filling in minutes (Ohlund), or how much ridiculous money the player is going to get (Bouwmeester, Komisarek).  From what I see, he addresses the team's needs and improves the defense overall.

As long as he stays healthy and builds what he did last season in Carolina (read: shoot), I think he would make a great signing even at about $3 million/year.

Have your say in the comments below about Dennis Seidenberg or the other defensemen I mentioned at the top.  If you feel like mentioning a center or a draft prospect you'd like a closer look at, please make those suggestions in the comments to this FanPost. Already we got Samuel Pahlsson and (ugh) Blair Betts, so join in making up some more.

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I don’t know about this…. Yeah I would give him 3 million for a couple years but will he stay healthy for the season? That is a problem and I like Seidenberg except in Game 4….. He could put up points and play some D. I still consider Bergeron and either Ohlund/ Beauchemin. Seidenberg is an upgrade from Mike Mottau or Andy greene if he is hurt. But you have to be conservative about this. You NEED A CENTER FOR GIONTA. Yeah Bergeron is cheap and you have to sign Oduya. That’s about 5 million right there. Do you want to give Seidenberg 3 million? Just sign Bergeron, sign Oduya, and find some great center for Gio.
Trade possibility-
Henrik and Daniel Sedin for
Zubrus and draft pick or cash or Mottau or Greene

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 3, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

In all fairness John,

I hate Blair Betts just as much as the next guy, but there’s no denying his effectiveness. He’s probably one of the best penalty killers in the league, is a great #4 center, and would be a huge upgrade over Bobby Holik. Plus I highly doubt he’d cost more than $1-1.5 million.

by Mandmeisterx on Jun 4, 2009 7:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Betts could replace Madden if he leaves also. Save a lot more money too

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 4, 2009 7:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Alberts is a good choice

I liked him in Boston before he went to Philly. Makes mistakes, but he’s big and physical and that is what we need more than anything else.
Martin – puck mover. Big, but doesn’t hit
Oduya – see ya. Sorry that you blossomed in a contract year.
White – truly our only physical hitting defensemen who can play with big centers in the corners. Lobs WAY too many turnovers up the boards, but…
Motteau – Did a pretty good job all year. Would be good for a #6 Dman, not #4.
Salvador – A lot better than I expected. Only other physical D-man. good for a #5
Greene – needs another year and might develop into something like Oduya. Great puck skills, not as good a skater, not physical enough.
Leach – who knows. Maybe another year?
Corrente – gets his shot?

by maddog2003 on Jun 4, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

We don’t need another third pairing defenseman? Especially one who is prone to being hurt?

Besides defense does not equal hits.

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by John Fischer on Jun 4, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about?

Beauchamin – played GREAT with ANA this playoff.
Montador – played GREAT with BOS this playoff
Skoula?
J Leopold?
Paul Mara?

by maddog2003 on Jun 4, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, go back a few days on this blog and you’ll see that I had something to say about four of those five players (Montador? No.)

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by John Fischer on Jun 4, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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chris gratton would be a grat pick up. he’s a physical guy, a veteran yet not too old, and fairly cheap.

EthanM

by EjM on Jun 4, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

FRIENDS DO NOT LET FRIENDS SIGN CHRIS GRATTON.

Sorry, I had a HF moment for a moment. But, no, Chris Gratton would be an awful signing. Think Viktor Kozlov-esque.

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by John Fischer on Jun 4, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you even consider wasteing money on Gratton???

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 5, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Seindenbergh

anywhere but the devils.

robert

by BOOBY on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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