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I have a new blog that I’m waiting on because now is not the right time to publish it. So until that time arrives, I thought I’d fill the gap with a discussion on the Devils and retired numbers.

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Now nobody can debate the legitimacy of retiring Scott Stevens’ #4. He’s either the first or second best Devil of all time, and there is no debating that. Without his leadership, how many of those three Cups would we actually have? I’m not sure many people disagreed with Ken Daneyko’s #3 either, although there was more gray area involved. Daneyko was an original, heart and soul Devil, the second draft pick in team history, and survived the early lean years to become a part of the team’s first ever playoff run in 1988, as well as all three Cups.

 

But I want to focus on future banners to hang from Prudential Center’s rafters. Now, if there ever was a guarantee, it’s that Martin Brodeur will have his number #30 retired. I’m also nearly positive that Patrik Elias’ #26 will hang as well. And although it’s way too early to tell, Zach Parise’s #9 could one day be honored as well, providing he remains a career Devil and does not experience an unfortunate permanent drop in his play.

And as for former Devils, the names Scott Niedermayer and Sergei Brylin have been kicked around. Although I disagree, I can see the argument for Niedermayer. A key piece in all three Cups, Niedermayer is also one of the greatest players in our history. But I disagree with retiring his number because he chose to leave us to go play with his brother in Anaheim, and is already cementing his place in their history. People are not as mad at him as they are at people like Scott Gomez, but the fact remains. Even if he didn’t leave for money like Gomez, he still left. He can say it was a hard decision, but I don’t think it was. We all knew he wanted to win a Cup with his brother, he didn’t even look that happy when we won in 2003 because he was more concerned about how his brother felt about losing. But like I said, he made his mark on the Devils, and although I don’t agree with retiring his number, I can live with it if it happens. Besides, it’s not like Mike Mottau is going to take over the legacy or anything.

 

And then there’s Sergei Brylin. I cannot, and will not, ever understand the groundswell of support by Devils fans to immortalize #18. Like Daneyko, Brylin was certainly a soldier, and he certainly was on the team for all three Cups. But unlike Daneyko, Brylin hardly had anything to do with them aside from a goal in game 4 of the 1995 Cup Finals. Neal Broten and Shawn Chambers also scored in that clinching game, but you don’t see any rush on retiring their numbers. Brylin had a largely nondescript career, the kind of career where if you asked any non-Devils fan about Sergei Brylin, they’d probably tell you he succeeded Lenin as dictator of the Soviet Union.

 

So Devils nation, I implore you, why on earth do you want this man immortalized, hanging forever amongst the likes of Stevens, Brodeur, and Elias? He did not contribute anywhere close to as much as those three did to the success of the Devils. In fact, the only reason this skating basket of laundry was even still a Devil since the late 1990s was the immense loyalty of Lou Lamoriello, who has a tendency to blindly reward those who have done him good at some point, even if all signs of talent have simply gone out the window. (Jay Pandolfo at $2.5 million for the next 2 years anyone?)

Go ahead and look up Sergei Brylin’s stats, please. Or better yet, watch any Devils game from 1998 forward. Let me know if you even notice #18 in red, let alone notice him doing something productive. I think you’ll find that there’s a better chance of the name "SHANAHAN" hanging above a #18 banner.

 

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I wouldn’t go so far as to call Brylin useless, but he was primarily a role player for the Devils’ Cup teams, and never a scorer. He should certainly be honoured by the team in some way, but I don’t think he should have his number retired.

Great line about the Soviet dictator btw, I loled.

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by Saugus on Jun 8, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can see Patrik’s number 26 up there. Zach Parise has a very good chance. Marty is a shoe in up there. Brylin I don’t think his number should be retired.
Stevens, Daneyko, Brodeur, Elias, Parise, Madden maybe?.

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 8, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t mind seeing #18 (with Shanahan’s name) hanging from the rafters. But mostly ‘cause I like Shanny. I’m a somewhat young Devils fan, so I don’t have much history with Brylin. Brodeur is an easy pick for a retired number, and Elias probably will be too. If Parise sticks with the Devils (and I’m praying he does) #9 will be up there too.

by brodeur on Jun 9, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shanahan wasn’t a Devil when we won three Stanley Cups. If they pick a number it would be 11 cause it was Shanny’s first Devil jersey

by LetsGoDevils on Jun 29, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niedermayer should be a shoo in. 12 years with the Devils, a Norris Trophy, 3 cups, 1st ballot HOFer. That’s 2 more years and 2 more cups than Messier across the river, where he is worshipped as a god, and I don’t hear their fans complaining him about going to play in Vancouver. Maybe the Oilers shouldn’t have retired Gretzy’s number because he left.

Johnny Mac should also get serious consideration, and Claude, too, with 2 cups and a playoff MVP.
Elias and Brodeur, yes. Everyone will have to wait until Brodeur retires. He’s the next to go up.
Brylin, no way. Madden, no. Parise, way too early to even discuss.

by NJSwapdragon on Jun 9, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My apologize for replying really late to all this.

1) Sergei Brylin is the ultimate interchangeable part! OK, his numbers won’t wow you, but he was primarily on the bottom two lines and filling in gaps on the top six where asked. Left wing, right wing, center, and in a rare case, defense. He probably would play goalie had he been asked. From 1995 through 2008, Sarge had done it all in NJ and did it while not looking too out of place or sacrificing his defense. I think he is one the best role players in recent memory, not to mention in each of the three Stanley Cup wins. Yeah, a non-Devils fan probably won’t know him; but we all do after he left – and that’s the important thing. That we’re having this discussion is a testament to what Sarge represented as a Devil.

No, his number shouldn’t be retired as I don’t think he’s one of the best all time; but I think he should be honored in some form or another.

2) Scott Niedermayer is the most likely to get his number retired. He will go down as one of the best two-way defenders of his era, he earned 3 Cups with the Devils, and remains as the only Devil to ever win a Norris trophy. How he left was rocky and certainly disappointing; but his impact as a Devil is likely not to be seen again for a rather long time. I think he will be next – once he figures out when to retire.

3) I’m skeptical on retiring John MacLean’s #15, Claude Lemieux’s #22, Patrik Elias’ #26, Brendan Shanahan’s #18, and Zach Parise’s #9. MacLean was important but was he a legend as a Devil? I’m not so certain. Lemieux was massive in 1995 and was quite good in New Jersey, but he is even primarily remembered as a Devil? I mean, if you’re going to retire someone’s number, it really should be someone who spent significant time with the team – I don’t like Bourque in Colorado or Messier in NY retirements.

Elias will or has broken most of the offensive team records, won 2 Cups, and until Parise came around, he was the most offensively skilled Devil forward I ever saw. If he continues, then I can see #26 up in the rafters. Parise is way too soon to discuss.

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by John Fischer on Jun 14, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brylin Night

I have no problem giving him a memorial night, he can get the token engraved crystal and commemorative panting, and on we go. But I’m glad you agree on not retiring the number. I’m not so much opposed to the love fans give Sarge, moreso at the fact that this love leads them to peg him as an all-time great who should have his number retired. That I cannot fathom.

by thejerseydevil on Jun 15, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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