2009 NHL Free Agency: Open Thread for Devils & NHL
by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM EDT
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This is a (mighty) open thread where you can discuss all the non-Devils related trades and signings, as well as your thoughts about what's going on! Offer your feelings about what the Devils should do. Or just laugh at whatever team makes a stupid overpayment for a player. As always, the rules apply.
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Dreger tweeted...
Sedins have agreed to 5 year extension and will stay with the Canucks. log on to www.tsn.ca
Well, there goes the best center from the market! I suppose this will keep the Sedins in Vancouver and it’s not a bad move – they’ve done quite well for the team up top. And it’s for less money than I’d think.
Fun related question: Who will be the top center for the Rangers?
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I’m surprised. I thought for sure Brian Burke was going to poach his Swedish babies from the Canucks during free agency. But apparently Vancouver was willing to not only shell out the big bucks for the twins, but stick that critical no-move clause into their contracts, which is something they were adamant about having. And just as an aside, could you imagine how weird it would be, in any other profession, for a grown man in his mid-to-late twenties to turn down a multi-million dollar job offer unless his twin brother was offered one as well? I mean, it’s still weird that it is happening in hockey, but I couldn’t imagine a similar scenario occuring in any other professional sport. The Sedins creep me out a little bit. They’re like the red-haired Swedish hockey player version of the Olsen twins. They also give new meaning to the phrase ‘time to cut the cord.’
But tell us how you really feel.
I think it’s pretty clear that the Sedins want to stay in Vancouver and the two have, well, innate chemistry with each other on the ice, which is to the Canucks’ benefit. It isn’t a common occurrence, you’re right; but you can’t deny how effective they have been.
Also, the Sedin’s actually eat and are in shape.
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No doubt about it. In the Western Conference semifinals the Sedins seemed to be the only two players on the Canucks that seemed to understand that they couldn’t win without scoring into the other team’s net. And their on-ice chemistry is, as you said, simply astounding at times. Both seem to instinctively know where the other one is at all times without having to look – perhaps lending some credence to that crazy theory twins are somehow mentally linked (though as a twin myself, I have some doubt about that).
Hey, TSN has a free agent tracker
It’s useful and sortable, the default is by date and time. Good to see who signed when.
Also, craziness is imminent.
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I struggle to understand a lot of tradespeak… what does “future considerations” entail?
For instance, the Devils get Walter and future considerations from the New York Islanders in exchange for the rights to center Tony Romano.
I’d have to look it up, but usually it isn’t something significant.
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Mattias Ohlund is off the market.
Apparently NHL Live reported he signed with Tampa Bay. Will follow up with confirmation later.
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If Romano does good with the Islanders the Devils get a better pick. if Romano does bad the Devils get a later pick in the draft. I think that is how it works.
Thank god for two things, an extremely slow work day and tabbed browsing. These are sites I have open right now:
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/teams/page/NJ
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/rumors.html
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4299215
http://www.nypost.com/sports/devils/devils.htm
http://www.thehockeynews.com/subchannel/news.html
Enjoy
Flip on the Ridiculous Light!
Ohlund signed to Tampa Bay for an average of $3.75 million for SEVEN YEARS TSN confirms!
My initial thought: WHAT. Seven years for a 32 year old defender who may or may not be declining in ability? WHAT.
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Wow… I can’t believe he signed for 7 years. Well see if its a good deal in 5 years I guess. lol
by LetsGoDevils on Jul 1, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Wings
are setting a dangerous precedent with their incredibly long deals. This is the kind of thing that happens. They basically cut a 3 or 4 year deal’s cap hit in half. That’s what this comes down do.
by Mandmeisterx on Jul 1, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
TB at it again.
It’s apparent that they learned nothing from last season’s F-up. And people talk about teams like Phoenix and Nashville in a negative light. They should focus on the Lightning and how much of a decline they’re in.
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I know, right? When the owners of a franchise call in Gary Bettman to mediate their marriage counseling, you kind of get the feeling that these people have no idea what the hell they are doing. And while pissing away that much money on such a lengthy contract seems ridiculously short-sighted and is liable to blow up in Tampa Bay’s collective face sometime in the forseeable future, I think they may have brought in Ohlund to play the role of the older, veteran defenseman with experience playing on the top two defensive pairings to Viktor Hedman’s rookie superstar. They needed to find a mentor with those credentials for Hedman because they didn’t have one on their current roster, and perhaps in Ohlund they believe they’ve filled that need. Whether or not this workes out better than the Stamkos experiment remains to be seen.
Blackhawks will make it to SC Finals and lose!
I’m calling it right now!
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Radek Dvorak signed by Florida
Not a big deal, but there it is.
Supposedly Kovalev is staying in Montreal. Get ready for a lot of “Gomez to Kovalev, save by the keeper!”
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Ted Nolan can't be the Devils coach now
Via Sean Leahy on Twitter: Ted Nolan named Rochester Americans VP.
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Maybe. Maybe not. We’ll never know really.
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OFFICIAL - Greene is back
Andy Greene is re-signed by the Devils.
No info on contract length or salary yet. Wait on Gulitti or Chere for that.
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Link?
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Ah, OK. Just mention that next time.
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So the Leafs are hoping that Orr and Hollweg, reunited, will be their Bash Brothers. Which one will be Fulton?
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Well, Burke used to be with Anaheim, you think he could pry someone away from the Ducks for that?
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That’s the thing. They’re not the Mighty Ducks anymore. Just Ducks. So no point going to them for one.
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Fair enough
Is Chris Neil still available? I haven’t seen him signed anywhere.
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Plus, Parros was already signed mid-way last season.
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I like Gionta, I hope we can resign him. If we get a center he has chemistry with he can still put the puck in the net.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Let him walk wherever
Look at Holik and Gomez, Devils who go off to other East teams for big money tend to decline. I say, Gionta can go whereever for that much.
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If he goes anywhere, I'd say Columbus
Gio-Nash-Huselius line would be outright nuts. Even more so if Vermette gets sprinkled in there once in a while.
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Added bonus
New Jersey would only see Gionta no more than twice in the regular season AND only in the Finals in the playoffs. Which would be fine, NJ would win that game.
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Hey, no one thought the Cardinals would go to the Super Bowl either.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, call me when Columbus wins a series first.
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Chere has this tidbit
Gionta is talking to the Lightning apparently.
GOOD. Still nothing on Greene.
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It appears that http://www.thefourthperiod.com/rumors.html is down. The page keeps timing out. The site is probably getting hammered at this point.
yuck the lightning i was hoping he would go to the sabres
by Imperator_Celtic on Jul 1, 2009 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
Tampa Bay
There goes the Tampa trying to buy their way into the playoffs. They did the same thing last year and overpaid everybody. Although,
St. Louis- Vinny- Gionta
Pretty dominant for a first line that is if Gio sign s and Vinny doesn’t get traded.
TSN Liveblog reports massive extension for Florida
David Booth signed a 6 year extension worth $25.5 million. Booth was very good for Florida and he should get much better as he gets older. I wonder how it’ll effect Zajac’s dealings? Also saw it on the Panthers’ official Twitter. I’ll reply with a linked story.
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The Leafs have traded Pavel Kubina to the Thrashers
It is not finalized yet though, Burke is in Europe trying to get Gustavsson…..
Link- http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283416
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Oh, OK. I got confused since you made a new comment instead of hitting that big red text that says “Reply” under every comment.
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Hossa to the Hawks!!!
They are waiting for confirmation but it appears that the Hawks have signed Hossa. Update soon. Post link when it is confirmed….
Craig Anderson to Colorado
Anderson signed 2 year deal with the Avs per Adrian Dater of the Denver Post
Well, that should help the Avs in net, I wonder how Florida will fill in their space behind Vokoun?
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Hossa gets 5 million over 12 years
In Chicago. Details haven’t been releashed yet.
Link- http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283416
In the Blog
That can't be right
12 years?
Seriously?
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Turn on the Ridiculous Light Again!
It’s for real: Hossa signed to Chicago for 12 years for a $5.2 million cap hit/season per TSN
12 years. What.
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He's 29. The deal ends when he's 41.
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Apparently, the so-called Ty Conklin curse exists. To me, though, it’s a crock of _.
That said, who wants to bet the Blues will reach the Finals and lose?
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Less ridiculous
TSN’s live blog reports that Ty Conklin signs 2 year deal with Blues for a $1.3 million cap hit per season.
I’ll reply with a link to a story later.
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Chicago has to deal with Kane, Toews, Keith next year with there contacts. How are they going to do that???
They trade them
Simple as that.
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It never left!
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What about the years of futility by the Blackhawks before the Kane & Toews show?
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True rivalries never die because one team sucks. Look at NJ-NYR
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Islanders upgrade in goal
Newsday reports the Islanders signed Dwayne Roloson to a 2 year deal for $5 million total.
Not a bad #1A option should DiPietro get hurt…again
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I liked the moves that the Islanders made on draft weekend. Maybe there will be joy on the Island in the not to distant future.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Kevin Allen's twitter...
Brian Gionta has surprisingly become a hot property in the marketplace
Kevin Allen is USA Today’s hockey writer and I don’t doubt him here. Bye bye, Mr. Gionta!
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Brian, we hardly knew ye. I wish him the best if he does walk.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Today is only the day where free agency begins. Players can still be signed tomorrow or later.
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I am starting to develop a complex about top talent avoiding Jersey.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he is going to lets the kids play in Jersey now.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess you want everything done today?
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Well, you know, instant gratification is nice sometimes. :)
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s fine letting the kids play, i’m all for it, but we dont have the depth to lost Gionta and no sign someone, who’s gonna be our second line? Elias-Rolston-Bergfors? LOL
No, the second line would be Elias-Zubrus-Rolston. And honestly, that wouldn’t be a bad line
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I am not totally sold on Bergfors so yeah I hear ya on that.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He's qualified
He can’t go anywhere unless someone foolishly offers an offer sheet.
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So does that mean he has to take that offer or can he counter offer?
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I want something done today, all the top-tier talent will go on day 1, especially with a bunch of teams having plenty of money to spend. And i hope zajac signs. We need to keep one line intact
OK, so if we sign Zajac. How much will that leave for free agent(s)?
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
didnt toronto or edmonton play some game like that last year or the year before? threw out a bunch of sheets just to raise prices and then dipped out?
I remember the Rangers offering Joe Sakic an offer sheet for some stupid amount of money but that was a while ago.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Andy Stickland can be trusted. Eklund cannot be.
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Agreed.
So let’s not reference Eklund. Ever.
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Nothing between him and me. Just that dude is about as reliable as broken clock. A waste of time and attention – especially when you got bloggers reporting news like Gulitti, Chere, TSN, etc.
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I hope you go as far to say Everson is more reliable than Eklund. Let’s hear it!
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That’s not very far.
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As far as Elias-Zubust-Rolston, i’m not too sure of that line man. Talk about a hit-or-miss line combo. Zubust, as much crap as he gets for his rediculous contract, works harder on the boards than Rolston, Rolston definitely needs to be on our PP more next year, i know he had the injury but i think the drama between him and Sutter hindered him along with the ankle injury.
I’m telling you, Rolston is a perfect replacement for Gionta. One of Zubrus’ assets is that he draws a lot of attention down low, which can be quite beneficial for a guy like Rolston to hang back for a big shot.
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The Colton Orr Void Has Been filled!
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This can be great value should Knuble still be productive.
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Oh yeah, speaking of Oilers and Senators
Dany Heatley still hasn’t decided what he wants to do. The trade is supposedly still on the table, but because Heatley hasn’t decided anything, both teams are held up. Oh, Dany! It’s not always about you!
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You can only be held up if you have a serious, dire need to fill in. Like Edmonton and Ottawa, especially if that trade goes through. A lot of players are still out there.
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At least Sidenberg and Babchuk are free agents still….there’s still hope we can find a shot from the point
Well at this point any news would be nice. Silence is definitely not golden in this case.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Babchuk's a RFA
I believe he was also qualified.
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Hey still have Havlat, Cammalleri, Koivu available too. I would only pick one. Babchuk just because Seidenberg in Game 4………..
Scott Niedermayer re-signs with Anaheim
Per TSN, 6 million for 1 year.
You all can make this more organized if you REPLY to comments instead of just posting news ones. Makes it easier to follow and I know you all know how to do it.
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Well we can scratch Neids name off the list.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, they are dropping like flies. Looks like we will be scrappin’ the bottom of the barrel again.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well, time to move on….What ever happened to Tallackson? Anyone have any ideas on who we’ll see come up from Lowell next year? I expect Pelley to come up.
Tallackson never stepped up his game enough to stick in the NHL. Appears to be a AHLer through and through. Depends on who the Devils sign this summer as to whether Pelley has a shot.
Remember, today is NOT the only day for free agency
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Brian Boucher to the Flyers
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BWAAAHAHAHA THEY TOOKS A WATERBOY!!!
I’m kidding about the Waterboy thing, but I felt like saying it anyway lol.
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Biron is prolly out, i dont think Philly ever resigned or offered to him, Biron and Havlat should go to LA. They have some good young talent over there.
LA...
…now there’s another place where goalies go to falter.
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Good that Biron is on his way out.
I get Comcast Sportsnet Philly, and looking at his face on a regular basis in the season really annoyed the hell outta me.
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What would you say if I told you that may not be the case?
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what may not be the case? us being better than philly or us getting out of the first round? I think last year we had an unfortunate end. Potential is and was there, but not if we dont get better first. Sometimes bad things happen, sometimes its just a case of bad luck. But the end result is still the same, Devils and Philly sat on their couches come Stanley Cup Finals time.
Any word on the coaching situation? Probably another reason no one wants to come here. Who’s gonna be their coach? Someone new every year?
No.
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This is getting annoying….. Lou needs to get his head out of his butt and go out and buy a defenseman or a center. We need to get out of this thing getting out in the first round. Every other team has signed a free agent. Hell even the Islanders signed someone and they’re rebuilding. C’mon Lou wake up, just hire Lemaire already the gig is up, and sign a CENTER and a DEFENSEMAN!!!!!!!
Steve Sullivan anyone? I liked the dude.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What part of free agency does not end on July 1 don't you get?
Why should Lou rush into making a deal for the sake of making a deal? Just to make news? Just so you have something to talk about? I don’t think Lemaire would be a good coach here and I’m not the only Devils fan to think that, so why should Lou go ahead and do it just because?
I’m sorry that it annoys you, but this is the nature of the business. Deals don’t automatically happen.
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Its not that.
The fact of the matter is, so many things should have been done before this day came. I get the draft is important, especially to Lou, but no free agent signings? No new coach? What was he doing all that time? Its frustrating. Then he always makes it like he has some great plan that he can’t talk about, then does nothing. At all.
That's not true!
Lou made big signings last season, for starters.
Second, a lot of these deals require all kinds of negotiation and calls and such. And with UFAs, it requires waiting for the players and their agents to make a decision (or in the case of Dany Heatley, to allow a trade)
Just because you don’t see anything but an Andy Greene re-signing doesn’t mean Lou has been doing nothing
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Ok
Then defend the coaching situation. How many coaches are out there? Tremblay, Carbonneau, Lemaire, Maclean even… and when I mean signing free agents, what about our free agents? Its been reported that Lou didn’t talk to anyone in that time and if he did there was no sit down talks, just casual. Look I have respect for the man, I mean he’s in the Hall for a reason but the fact that he has treated his entire fan base like children in not giving an inkling of what he has planned is just disrespectful to the people that asures him a paycheck.
I agree
Lou has to keep everything to himself… He had how many weeks to find or interview a head coach? What did he do in that time? All of our free agents weren’t talked too instead of Oduya. Hopefully that won’t haunt us. I would expect to accomplish something in that time. You feel bad for John Madden and Gio who were committed to this franchise for years and they don’t even get talked too. Why are we giving Greene 1.4 million when he played half the season last year? Then he trades for some prospect from NY. You really think that is waht Devils fans want to hear about? We need a head coach not a prospect that won’t play in the NHL.
They didn’t get talked to earlier because the salary cap ceiling wasn’t announced until just this past Friday. No GM had any idea how much they have to spend. Moreover, the top priorities this offseason were trying to keep Oduya, which Lou did, and qualifying Zajac, which Lou did.
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It’s been reported? By who?
Defend the coaching situation? Easy. Lou is looking for a coach who is going to actually help the Devils going forward and right now, that’s not an easy task given that the process is being done along with the draft and free agency. It’s not something you do in a week or two. Like I said earlier, it makes no sense at all to make a deal just to say, hey, you have a deal.
I’m willing to wait for a coach if it means a good coach comes to New Jersey. In the long run, it is superior to signing just Lemaire or someone like that in the short term
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I understand but since he doesn’t say anything how are we to think otherwise?
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Example of why teams shouldn't rush into deals
Boston Globe reports the Canadiens signed Jaroslav Spacek to a 3 year, $11.5 million deal. Yes, he’s getting paid more than Oduya.
NOW do you want to see a deal made just for the sake of a deal?
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P.S. This is NOT a good deal.
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I think everyone knows it doesnt end on July 1st. Lou needs to do 2 things tops to make this team a contender again. We will be 7 years removed from out last cup, last couple years we’re a 1 and done team. Coming into LAST free agency it could be argued that all we needed was a center and a defenseman. Coming into THIS free agency…again same argument. I like Lou all the same, but i’m not much of a homer and stray from kool-aid. Acutally a LOT of Dev’s fans dont want Lemaire back because they fear a return to a trap style game. “Boring” Devils hockey. I think fans, like myself, are frustrated because the needs aren’t tremendous, yet it seems we either don’t make a move, or have no money to make a move. It would be nice to take part in this crazyness that is free agency for one, instead of sitting back, signing a Rolston, or a Havelid at the deadline and ending up out in round 1 again. It’s not like this team has 8 holes to fill to get back to the Finals again. We have 2 tops, yet again…one and done? It remains to be seen. Personally, i would like to see the Devils make a splash, not an ill-advised splash as you keep cautioning us against, but a splash set on completeing this team and restoring hope that we might sneak one more Cup in before Marty rides off into the sunset as the greatest goaltender of all time. We don’t even have coach. That alone should have been done 1st, who wants to play for a team with no coach? All these things take time yes, but as we’ve seen today, time IS limited. We know it’s not all done on July 1st, but truth is, most of the good one’s are gone. And i just wish for once we’d be in on the party.
Most of the good ones are gone?
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Let’s see, Koivu, Williams, Malhotra, Seidenberg, Komisarek, and Bergeron, the players most of the readers wanted to see from my posts are still out there.
AND THE DAY ISN’T OVER! Amazing!
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Note: Some of these, I don’t want the Devils to get, I’m just throwing names out there.
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Oh yes forgot about Malholtra…. Isn’t he they guy every team wants? He is no different from Zubrus…. Can we please have a star on this team and get some media attention?? Yeah yeah yeah Parise and Brodeur but Parise had a career year last year. Oh great another goaltender gone. Which the devils desperatley need. Don’t listen to Marty any more. He kills us in the playoffs. I am sick of him playing every game of the season.
Aren't you the one clamoring for Bergeron in so many, many comments?
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But seriously
I get that you’re not happy that the Devils aren’t getting noticed or attention. Consider this: Montreal’s getting a ton of attention for trading Gomez and signing Spacek. It’s not a good thing!
And the Devils need a backup goalie. These guys are all starters and #1a guys so far.
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I know that but what kind of players do you think won’t be signed by tommorow? Will be signing Pahhlson and Skoula if we keep this up. I don’t want Lemaire as a head coach but I think Lou does. He is ruining this team’s chances by not hiring a head coach. What NHL player wants to come to an organization without a head coach? This team has never got into the second since Rafalski and Gomez left. Playmaking Center and an Offensive Defenseman. We got to the second round with them. They leave we friggin bring in Zubrus and Vishnevski to fill those roles. We need to sign a center and an offensive defenseman TODAY. I don’t want to see Zubrus on the first line next year. He doesn’t put up points. I’m sick of this team worrying about money…. For once can I hear the Devils are interested in the Sedin’s?? I have to hear the Devils acquire Havelid. Who wants to hear that kind of news? What is bringing in Bobby Holik the best we can do? C’mon Lou wake up already!!!!
I love this little angry rants because the Devils haven’t done anything now.
Centers and defensemen can be signed tomorrow. And they don’t need to be big names.
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I wouldnt consider mine an angry rant, I’m just pointing out that you keep criticising our requests for some top talent, so who do YOU want to see wearing a Devils jersey? Straight up, no name droppping, just who do you want? 1-2 centers and 1-2 d-men you would consider a “good” investment. Williams not a center, dont need him; Malhotra? He’s 29 and never scored more than 35 pts. Bergeron, 29, best year: 06-07 with the Islanders, 46 pts, -4, 10 PP goals, not too shabby. Seidenberg, we already know where i stand on that. Komisarek will probably want 4.5-5 million/yr. I don’t think we can afford that unless Gionta does walk. We’re allowed to dream of blockbuster signings aren’t we, but i think we all know it doesnt happen with the Devils. I can understand “letsgodevils” frustration, but realistically, I just want us to fill the holes we have. All 2 of them.
Those would be good investments, save for Komisarek. My thoughts on those players are as follows and I still feel that way:
Williams & Malhotra (IF Madden isn’t going to return)
And if Lou is really sure he could play center again and is really sure his back is OK: Steve Sullivan.
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I agree on Koivu, I can see Williams if he produces, i’d rather let Zubrus play on the 3rd line since he’s banking right now instead of Malhotra, we won’t have the cap space to sign more than 2 free agents, so we need to make it worth it. Seidenberg i think is going to be the best value and Bergeron is nice, but i’m not sold simply because i dont think Minny used him properly under Lemaire and if we did sign Lemaire as couch, Bergeron wouldnt work here either. Of course, we would know that ahead of time if we had a coach. ;)
Khabibulin signs with Oilers
TSN has the story. I guess Chicago fans are hoping Huet steps up now!
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I think Huet can be a number one goalie and he doesn’t like to have competition. The Khabibulin situation was too much in Chicago.
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Well, now's the time to prove it
Thanks to all the other moves Chicago made, who knows much money Chicago can truly invest in a plan B goalie behind Huet.
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This is a 7-11 supporting blog; but more importantly...
…Tibbs isn’t in the US. They probably don’t have Wawas or 7-11. Now eat something before Gainey makes another dumb move.
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7-11, hands down, has the best coffee and Goerge likes his chicken spicy.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Surprised it wasn't QuickChek
Doesn’t matter to me. Wawa is the Epic Win.
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Either way...
…I don’t any of the three are in France.
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
you can't trust these canadiens !
yeah i am going to cook some pasta! and the dumb move is not only a canadien thing…
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
You mean like Ohlund for 7 years or Hossa for 12 years?
BIG NAME SIGNINGS, both.
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Andy Stickland tweets Clemmensen is now a Panther
Will reply with a confirmation.
Scott Clemmensen to get a 3 yr. deal worth 1.2 per season from the Florida Panthers.
Good for Clemmensen, he’ll get a chance to play in Florida and it’s a nice little raise for him.
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I might be wrong
but isn’t the long term contract a way to have a lesser cap hit even if the player doesn’t finish his contract?
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions
Sort of?
I’m not sure on the details on what happens if the player retires before the end of the contract. I think there’s some sort of cap hit to the team if that happens,which leads to such front-loading of big deals.
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Gulitti confirms
$825,000 average across for two years
Well, no big surprise considering the Devils signed Leblond.
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Montreal continues to make moves! Why! I don't know!
Why can’t NJ make moves like signing Hal Gill to a 2 year deal worth $4.5 million per Sportsnet?
Actually, it’s not a totally awful deal. But the Canadiens signed Hal Gill and Jaroslav Spacek.
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TSN-Moderator: Pittsburgh has signed Mike Rupp – two years, 825K per year.
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
I can’t even post a comment properly!
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
Slow down, eat some pasta, and try again. It’s not a race. (heh)
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You are correct saying its not a race but a lot of the top tier talent is going fast
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
lol the water is boiling and my stomach rumbling so we lost Rupp and Clemmer so far… That’s not unexpected
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
Nah. Given that the Devils kept Oduya and Zajac has been qualified, there aren’t any must re-sign Devils here. It’d be nice to see Weekes, Shanahan, and Madden return but the Devils can replace them if necessary.
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yeah that would be nice. .. Even Gio at a discount a big one… If he was sure not to be back he would be gone already. But I guess the offers are probably not that enticing
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
Montreal spends $30 million on Cammalleri
Sportsnet has this up. Well, this isn’t a totally awful deal for Montreal. Cammalleri could line up on Gomez wing and if he does put up 35+ goals, then it’s money well spent.
If not, well, it’s another egg on the face of Gainey. Because it’s still a lot of money
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This pssies me off, we could have afforded that.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Details to come, but Atlanta and Toronto is making a trade
At a minimum, according to TSN, Atlanta’s getting at least Pavel Kubina and Toronto is getting at least Garnet Exelby.
Burke really loves his grit and tough-guy players!
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A link to this at TSN is useful too.
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UPDATE
Toronto gets: Exelby, Colin Stuart
Atlanta gets: Kubina, Tim Stapleton
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How can you count Parise as a second liner? Didn’t Parise play with Langenbrunner and Zajac to form the top line? Wasn’t Elias on the second line with Gionta and Zubrus? Even if Cammalleri did play on the second line with Elias and Zubrus/Rolston that would make one helluva one two punch. I don’t think you would get many complaints for the Devils signing him. Although its to late now.
Mike Komisarek is now a Maple Leaf
TSN’s liveblog had this: awaiting confirmation and salary.
I felt he was just a younger colin white, so I don’t think the Devils missed out here.
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Before TSN’s blog signed off, they said McKenzie confirmed it for $4.5 million per year at 5 years.
I’m VERY glad the Devils missed out on him then. That’s quite a bit of coin!
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Steve Sullivan is gone
Ah, a player I would have thought NJ could be running for! TSN’s FA tracker has him re-signing with Nashville for 2 years: $3.75 million per year.
Hopefully, his back is OK now.
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All of you (namely thatguy011071) bitching an moaning about no one being signed today have you come to the realization that guys like Koivu, Bergeron & Beauchemin… guys who fit the most immediate needs of this team have not yet been signed.
Well, I’ve tried to convey that, but yeah.
Also, watch the language.
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Everyone has there opinion and I have mine.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Sami Pahlsson now a Blue Jacket
Defensive forward goes to Columbus: 3 years for $2.65 million cap hit.
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I guess Malhotra isn’t coming back, incidentally.
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Off to bed for me...
quiet day for the Devils but people who had to be signed were. We are still missing a few pieces but nothing crucial, in my opinion.
by TibbsBeastoftheEast on Jul 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions
My eye's are on all night.
I’m really hoping Lou will sign a new forward. We may not be able to keep Gionta or Madden. Lou please don’t choke on this! We need a good solid filler. Who could it be ??
I hear that but with Lou, you don’t hear anything till after it happens. LoL
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the frustration with letting Gionta walk is now we don’t just need a center for the second line, now we need another winger for depth. Who in Lowell is going to come up to fill Gio’s roster spot. PL3 will fill Rupp’s, not that i agree with it, but i can see that. Good thing about Komi signing is it should lower Beauchamin (sp?) and Bergeron’s asking price. By losing Gio, we need to hope one of our AHL guys can contribute his 20-25 goals per year (which realistically you would expect anyway).Let’s talk line combos if anyone is still there:
Parise-Zajac-Langs
Elias- ?? -Rolston
PL3-Zubrus-Clarkson
Bergfors-Pelley-Pandolfo
Martin-Oduya
White-Greene
Salvador-Mottau
Only problem with letting Gio go, which is fine if he’s asking for a raise because he sure didnt earn one, is now we went from a small fix to have 2 solid lines and a possibly decent 3rd line, to now we need a fix to get 2 solid lines, and the 3rd and 4th we’ll have to cross our fingers. Let’s face it, we don’t have true scoring depth. Gio leaving means we’re now short on 20G, 60 PTS. I would hope Rolston could fill the spot, not to mention he should produce on the PP more next year when he’s healthy.But now we’re losing Rolston’s possible scoring presence on the 3rd line and replacing it with…? I understand we don’t need to get everyone, i know that, but by losing Gionta i feel we now have one more hole to fill as far as depth does. We need someone who can grind it out and score on the 3rd line as well, and Zubrus wont get it done, as we’ve seen he’s a great grinder typer player along the boards, good power forward but since he’s come here he hasn’t been the scoring presence we’d hoped. Maybe it’s just his line combos? I think we’ve couldve been able to do more if we hadn’t shackled ourselves with the contracts of Salvador and Zubrus. Zubrus is making more than Parise and Langs, and you have to know situations like that will only drive up the asking price of Parise in the future.
This is all true but there is a RW for depth:
Nicklas Bergfors will be given every chance to be that depth at right wing.
Rolston should replace Gionta’s goals, the third line production by Rolston could be replaced by Bergfors.
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I hope he does, and i hope he succeeds, i like Bergfors. Kinds sucks letting Vrana go too. Word is he will back to the Czech Republic. I think that leg injury really screwed him, but he definitely could’ve helped. I would’ve liked to see more of him as well, he showed good chemistry with Elias. Any word if we extended Vrana an offer? Or did he truly high tail it to Europe?
According to Gulitti, Vrana was qualified.
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And now a serious commentry on this news.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Glen Sather, you beautiful idiot, don’t ever change or leave the Rangers
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Yes. They are still available.
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Now i’m getting anxious to see what Lou is gonna do with all this $$ he saved by not resigning Madden and Gio. A conservative estimate, we should have about $ 10 million in cap space.
Upset
Im pretty upset right now with the Devils. They have sat around all day and have done nothing, which was fine until Madden signed with Chicago. I dont understand how Lou could possibly let him go. I now expect a big name player to be signed anything less will be unacceptable.
I understand your frustration, but i expected all of them to walk. The only one i hoped we’d resign was Gionta, but not for 5 million a year.
I hear you, so far Lou is just watching.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Tanguay
How bout Alex Tanguay? Montreal cant sign all of their UFA’s. Very disappointing that our Devs havent signed anyone on the offensice end today
Lou keeps everything really close to the vest, so much so that I wonder about him sometimes.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Only good center left is Saku Koivu. Lou has to be talking to him, and still alot of defenseman still available. If Lou doesn’t sign anyone tonight or tommorow we are in serious trouble……….
We are?
The 2009-10 season is decided on July 1? This is news to me.
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Ok you can have fun getting out in the first round every year. Our 3rd and 4th line will be from Lowell……..
You got a point there Lou “Stand Pat” Lamoriello strikes again.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s just had to overlook the fact that today we lost a starting center, a starting winger, a checking center, and gained so far….a resigned 3rd line defenseman, and hopefully our 1st line center.
I said that same thing elsewhere. I just don’t get it.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For the last time, let me tell you again.
Zajac. Was. Qualified. He. Will. Return. Stop. Panicking.
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Just because we sent him a qualifying offer doesnt mean he will resign. With all these people jumping ship, he may be right behind them. I haven’t seen any info on Zajac being signed to an offer sheet.
Jumping ship?
Gionta got a crazy offer, Madden wanted a change, Rupp wanted out, and Clemmensen got a chance at minutes. All were UFAs and were free to leave of their own volition. Again, stop panicking.
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When is our turn? Everyone has had a turn, we have done nothing. I am guessing Lou wanted to see would leave before he wanted to make his moves? Who knows, you never what he going to do till he goes ahead and does it.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Stop Panicking??? The Devils don’t have a first line center, Zubrus isn’t that, We don’t have a checking center, we don’t have a winger, we don’t have an offensive defenseman, and we don’t have a backup goaltender. Hopefully today we fill all of those needs and we don’t have to panick.
by LetsGoDevils on Jul 2, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Alright guys, i’m out. Off to work until 6pm tomorrow. I hope by the time i get home there is some good news waiting for me. Thanks to all the people i chatted with. I appreciate your opinions and information. I also share some of your frustration. I wish i could be as optimistic as some of you. Not sure what the future holds of what Uncle Lou has un his sleeve…..Bottom line, no matter what, GO DEVILS!!!
later FLDevilsFAN hopefully good news tomorrwo
by Marty'sBetter on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's left?
Tanguay, Koivu, Havlat, Antropov, Sykora….thats really it as far as guys that can light the lamp. no solid D men with size like we need
they have been getting old devs back recently, shanny, rolie and holik
by Marty'sBetter on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You left out Jason Williams, Manny Malhotra, Tyler Arnason, Chad LaRose, Adrian Aucoin, maybe Jordan Leopold, M-A Bergeron, and more.
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
they’re not a-line guys. good players, but we lost Gio and Madden, we need a lamp lighter. Id like to see Sykora back or Antropov, since he has size.
by Marty'sBetter on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Gio and Madden combined for about 30-something goals. Rolston + forward can replace that.
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind Antropov if he wasn’t looking for 4+ millon
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, but the fact is Gio was our first line center, the zz pop line is the best but Gio was the 1st line center. That along with Madden’s PK ability, granted he had an off year. We need someone to play with Patty on the 1st line and I think a big guy like Antropov who could score would really help. or Sykora who has already played wth Patty. Sykora, Elias, Rolston would be a nice line
by Marty'sBetter on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, but the fact is Gio was our first line center, the zz pop line is the best but Gio was the 1st line center.
Right Wing. For the love of many things, tell me you meant right wing here.
We need someone to play with Patty on the 1st line and I think a big guy like Antropov who could score would really help. or Sykora who has already played wth Patty. Sykora, Elias, Rolston would be a nice line
Not Sykora. Tell me you’re not serious about Sykora.
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Gio took most of the face offs, he was just as much the center as Zubrus was. I understand he is a winger, but if you look at all of his goals, most were in front of the net, where Zubrius should be playing. Very serious about Sykora, why not.
by Marty'sBetter on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Gionta did not take most of the faceoffs. This is pure fact that easily looked up at NHL.com’s stats page.
Last season, Gionta took 132 faceoffs. Zubrus took 923 Gionta played right wing, Zubrus largely played center.
Yes, Gionta’s goals came from in front of net – wingers can do that.
Sykora is way past his prime and wouldn’t be effective anymore.
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by John Fischer on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I stand corrected then. I thought Gio took more, at least it seemed like he did becausde he is better at it than Zubie. I understand Sykora is past his prime, since his prime was when he was previously with the Devils. You can make a case that most of the guys still available that scored goals last year are past their prime. Tanguay, Sykora, Koivu, etc. Bottom line is, and i commend you for being patient, Lou hasnt made a big spllash in FA in a few years, except maybe for Rolston last year. I know thats not his style, but we need to get out of the first round. I only hope he has something up his sleeve. IN LOU I DO TRUST, but were are is the big splash. WHere is the additional right handed defenseman we needed?
by Marty'sBetter on Jul 2, 2009 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Good night y’all. Hopefully Lou took his Geritol and he will be working the phones tonight and tomorrow I will wake up to some signings! Was fun talking to you all.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow...
John,
I have to commend your patience. I have no clue how you do it… if i had to moderate this board and read and answer these comments I’d absolutely lose my mind that these were my fellow Devil fans, and no I don’t mean all of you.
I can’t believe that some of you care enough about the Devils to seek out a blog like this but seemingly never read it, watch the team, have any semblance as to how the game works, who plays what position, what the teams needs are or the difference between a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent.
He’s to old. According to Lou from the new york post, the Devils “have to get younger”.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 2, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Salary Cap
Im hearing the salary cap will be going down next year, so i think alot of these teams signing these players to these huge contracts will have issues. I think Lou has a plan, although we are getting impatient. Still want Sykora, now that Antropov is off the board. Or maybe Tanguay or Satan if we could get them cheap.
I disagree. I don’t want Satan or Sykora and I’m not big on Tanguay. For starters, none of them are centers and for another, all of them are on the downside of their careers – and it’s hitting them hard.
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Antropov to Thrashers
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283526
He and Kovalchuk could make a great 1-2 punch there.
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Heard Scuderi to the Kings
Not sure if this is true. If someone can verify, great.
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Excellent…but I don’t want him for four years, which is what he was asking for the Wild. We shall see!
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by John Fischer on Jul 2, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is too brittle. What other centers are out there?
by thatguy011071 on Jul 3, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing is, as Sather has done in the past, he will throw a bunch of money at him. So much so that it will take everyone else out of the running. It amazes me that he still has a job.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 3, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
koivu
i like him as a player…skilled and pretty tough + good leadershipe qualities…but he has never really won anything so i wonder if he’s what’s missing to get us going deep in the playoffs again? saw on another post somewhere lamenting vrana’s departure…at least they kept his rights but it would have been good having him compete again in camp, cause maybe seeing the light at the end of the tunnel might have gotten him over the hump? so bummer…
Bad timing on Vranas part.
Koivu never really won anything because he was in Montreal, where management (GM, coaching, etc.) has changed so much that Koivu was one of the few constants and he alone can’t will a team through a post season. It ain’t Saku’s bad that the legendary Canadiens organization has turned into just another organization. I recommend this article on Saku Koivu from Habs Eyes on the Prize and you’ll see that to the Canadiens faithful, he won their hearts.
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by John Fischer on Jul 2, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Not exactly the pick of the litter…
But really now, Lou looks like he’s in no rush to even get a coach, let alone another center…with people like Mike Comrie & Petr Sykora sitting out there wasting away, can we grab someone to throw in the lineup already? I could at least wear my Sykora jersey again! Moreover, doesn’t Mike Comrie date Hilary Duff? Wouldn’t that sell tickets? Hey, in this economy, ya gotta be ready to try anything!
Frustrating isn’t it? I know how you feel. To bad Lou does not share our feelings on the subject. The team is definitely not better then last year.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 7, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Comrie?
A player looking for over $4 million who has never topped 60 points, and last touched that amount in 2005-06? A player who’s coming off a massive 27 points in 66 games? Why not save money and get Jason Williams?
And Petr Sykora isn’t remotely a good option – as he’s not a center and he’s really declined.
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Koivu, Kotalik and Afinigenov
Devs are supposedly interested in all 3. Check it out.
Doesn't count.
Just some sh—-y rumor-influenced article from a fan site. Not exactly legit.
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Nittiimaki to the KHL per James Mirtle.
My thoughts:
Damn, I was hoping Devils would get Nitty as a back-up. I like Weekes, but as mostly a locker room presence because the majority of his on-ice play leaves a good amount to be desired.
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Backup Goalie signed
Yann Denis, exIslander, pretty decenet, actually…this is why I don’t question Lou very often. Nice little pickup, there.
I like it.
Me too
He will probably get the backup spot. Whats the point in having Weekes? Why waste a million or two? I like this kid. He is young and stood on his head with the islanders defense. Were good for the future too.
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Wow, Yan Danis is our only signing and Pittkarainen? We did sign Oduya most importantly. I would like to get TJAc wrapped up too , id feel more comfortable then. But we do need to sign a center and a defenseman. Afinigenov, Bertuzzi, Sykora, Tanguay, Satan (wings but ill take em), Derek Morris, Dennis Seidenberg, Christian Backman.
Another player that does not want to come to Jersey. But seriously, who really knows how serious we were in the first place in trying to get him.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
A career back up goal tender who played for Montreal and the Islanders.
by thatguy011071 on Jul 12, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
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