New Jersey Devils vs New York Islanders - Preseason Game #5 Preview
The Time: 7:00 PM EDT
The Broadcast: The game's going to have streaming audio at WFAN.com but no video as far as I can tell. Per Rich Chere, the Devils' site will also have audio coverage - but no video. Let me know if there's any additional broadcasting information.
The Matchup: The New Jersey Devils (1-0-3) vs. the New York Islanders (0-2-0)
The Last Devils Game: It wasn't pretty, it wasn't great overall, but the power play finally got a goal and Ilya Kovalchuk scored a game winner in the third period. Matt has all the details in his recap of the 3-2 win over Philly.
The Last Islanders Game: The Islanders played a split squad set on Wednesday, playing the Flyers and Flames. They lost both, 3-1 and 3-2 respectively. Dominik at Lighthouse Hockey has some notes on the player performance in both games.
The Goal: Once again, the results don't matter. However, this is the first half of a back-to-back set of games, a home-and-away if you will, for the Devils. Since the two games will end the Devils preseason, this has to be the time to start getting serious on establishing the final roster. Given the Devils' cap problems, they'll still look at some young players to see who can be seriously considered as replacements for the eventual-players-to-be-moved. Nevertheless, the time is now for the Devils to work out just a few more kinks in their game, especially on special teams. I have a few more thoughts on tonight's game after the jump.
The big story out of camp in the past two days have been injuries. The first one happened today; Anton Volchenkov blocked a shot with his foot and left practice early. He's OK, though. According to Lou in this Rich Chere article, the foot isn't broken and the team expects him to practice tomorrow. The second one occurred on Tuesday, as Bryce Salvador left the game early after taking a hit from James van Reimsdyk. Two days later, it's still unknown what actual injury he may have. The Devils aren't using the C-word. Per this Rich Chere post, Lou's been vague and all he's essentially saying is that he's still undergoing further tests.
Since he's been off the ice, I presume he won't be playing tonight. Some Devils fans may wonder whether this means he can go on long term injured reserve and solve the Devils' cap problems. Let me be clear, if he's seriously hurt, then yes, he should go on LITR. However, it's not going to actually solve the problem so much as put it off. A team is allowed to go over the cap by whatever amount the player on LITR is worth. However, once he's healthy, the Devils absolutely have to make cap space to activate him. It's not really a "stashing place" for salary dumps, more a temporary allowance for teams beset by injury. In any case, if you're hoping he's moved, then you should be hoping he's healthy since a team can't trade an injured player as far as I know.
Going back to tonight's game, it's unclear as of this writing (8:10 PM on 9/30) as to who will be on the Devils' roster. John MacLean told the media - Rich Chere in this case - that Martin Brodeur will get the start tonight. And that's it for now. Marcus Nilson definitely won't play tonight. At the end of this Brendan Prunty post, Nilson has gone back to Sweden. Clearly, he didn't make the team. So if you're looking for lineup information, follow Chere and Gulitti throughout the day for updates.
As for the Islanders, they'll be using these games to not only tune up their team but figure out what to do after some serious injuries of their own. They are now without top defenseman Mark Streit and burgeoning forward Kyle Okposo. I have to agree with Dominik that there's no real replacement for Streit, he's that special of a defender. Yes, they recently signed Mike Mottau; but I'd be shocked if he just stepped in for Streit (and wouldn't recommend it at all). On top of that, the Islanders have to figure out who's going to replace Okposo's spot in the lineup. So these two games with New Jersey are important for them as well.
Lastly, I must repeat the mantra of preseason: the results don't matter as much as the performance. Keep that in mind when watching the game live at the Rock or listening via the Internet. Please leave your thoughts about tonight's game, as well as any updates (and remember to provide a link to the actual source), in the comments. Thanks for reading.
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teams can trade injured players, fwiw. i believe there’s something procedural that both teams have to do, but it can be done.
Lou can put Rolstons on waivers and solve most of our immediate problems and then take a 50% salary cap hit when he is claimed by another team who feels that he has real value at half of his salary ! This move can buy us “some time” before we have to make another decision on Salvador & Zubrus ?
Do you have some sort of inside knowledge that Rolston would be claimed on re-entry waivers? Otherwise, you’re risking wasting time to no good purpose if you waive him and re-entry waive him and there is no taker. You’ll depress his trade value further — meaning you’ll need a bigger enticement to get anyone to take him off your hands — and you’ll risk alienating Rolston and having him oppose any move to be rid of him by invoking his NTC (or worse, retiring out of spite at some point).
Rolston can't be waived.
His no-movement clause in his contract prevents that. It’s stricter than a normal no-trade clause.
Rolston has a NTC, not a NMC.
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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolston can still play but he is not worth $5.0M a year salary but at $2.5 a NHL team will claim him since the Devils are on the hook for the balance.
I ask once again — what evidence do you have that a team will even take him at $2.5 million? It is all fine and dandy to claim that he’s worth half his contract and someone will claim him because the Devils are on the hook for the other half, but I don’t see anything to back up your claim. Not logic, not evidence, nothing.
There are only sixteen teams whose cap situations would allow them to absorb half of Rolston’s hit without exceeding the Upper Limit at present. Considering the players who will shortly be put on waivers, and the number of teams that have to scramble to get under the Upper Limit themselves, I don’t think it is nearly as easy as you’d make it out to be. A team like the Islanders or Avalanche hold all the high cards here — they’ll be able to pick and choose who they help out of a cap bind, and what kind of enticements they’ll get for doing so.
In short, there’s no reason for a team to claim Rolston on re-entry waivers (especially with his contract) when they could have any number of other players and get paid to do it. I imagine Dainius Zubrus will prove to be easier to move.
there’s this illusion that lots of teams are scrambling to clear cap space, and it’s not true. only new jersey is. everyone else is fine.
Four other teams are over the cap, and there are five teams with less than $1m in space. How do you figure they don’t also have to clear some space in the next few days?
Playing Devils' advocate since 1982.
they all have players they can IR to get them cap compliant. vancouver waived shane o’brien, but other than that, they have sami salo going on IR. calgary has langkow and stajan probably going on LTIR. the bruins have marco sturm and marc savard going on LTIR. the leafs will probably bury jeff finger again.
and most of the other teams with $1m in space are based on 23 man rosters; those teams certainly do not have to do that.
CAP Solution!!!!
Salvador has a concussion so he should be sent down to albany.
I imagine there’s something in the CBA or standard contract language that forbids a team to use the Minors in lieu of LTIR for a genuine injury….. that’s standard practice in baseball, which also has a robust minor league system.
If your goal is to rid yourself of Salvador, this is about the worst thing that could have happened. Not only do you risk a grievance if you attempt the classless maneuver of waiving him when he’s clearly injured, but his trade value has dried up as well. He’d have to demonstrate he’s healthy and able to play before teams would take a chance on him, too.
He can go to Albany, but he can’t play there if he’s on LTIR. Plus, he’d have to clear waivers to get sent to Albany. That wouldn’t happen. There are a few teams who would put in a waiver claim on him, including the Isles.
Not true:
13.8 Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a
Conditioning Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for
more than fourteen (14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps
he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a
Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the
Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade the Re-Entry Waivers, or otherwise
Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action
against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during the period
of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be entitled
to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
Not sure I like the commissioner’s discretion aspect of potential disciplinary action, but…
13.9 Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan. A Player
who is on the Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception as set forth in Article 50
may, with his consent, during the term of such Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Exception (but in no event during the first fourteen (14) calendar days and six (6) NHL
Games), be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan (the “Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Exception Conditioning Loan”) for a period not to exceed up to the longer of six (6) days
and three (3) games, solely for the purpose of determining whether the Player is fit to
play. If the Club determines that it needs more time to assess the Player’s fitness to play,
the Club may file a written request by facsimile with the Commissioner’s Office, with a
copy to the NHLPA, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, to extend the Loan for an
additional two (2) games. The Commissioner, upon good cause, may approve the onetime
extension. The Commissioner’s approval shall not be unreasonably withheld. A
Player on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan will
continue to be listed on Injured Reserve and will not count against the Club’s 23-man
roster limit. The Club’s Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception will continue
until the Conditioning Loan ends, and his Paragraph 1 NHL Salary and Bonuses will
continue to count against the Club’s Upper Limit and the Players’ Share during such time.
The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the
circumstances under which a Player is placed on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Conditioning Loan. If he has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the
Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Conditioning Loan to evade Re-Entry Waivers or
otherwise to Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take other disciplinary
action against the Club as he deems appropriate. A Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness
Conditioning Loan may be extended on one occasion. This procedure can only be used
once during each period of time that the Player is on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury
Exception.
So, bottom line is, Salvador could be “lent” to Albany for a period of time beyond the specific LTIR period, but the Devils would have to be under the cap by his salary in order to activate him after the LTIR and conditioning stint. Either way, it’s only a temporary solution.
Go Devils
Go Jets
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