Almost is Never Enough: The New Jersey Devils Fall in 5-4 Shootout Loss to Buffalo Sabres
It is a cliche in sports that a team has to play the all X number of minutes to win, where X equals the amount of time in regulation for that sport. I would like to flip that cliche. A team has to play well at all aspects of the game to win.
The New Jersey Devils did not do that tonight in their 5-4 loss to the Buffalo Sabres in Newark this evening.
The big story out of this game will be Ilya Kovalchuk's error. In the shootout, down 2-1 after Derek Roy scored to put Buffalo ahead, Kovalchuk came out on the ice. The crowd, which was larger than I expected, all got up on their feet to see the big star on NJ try and keep hope alive for that elusive first win at home. He then proceeded to lose the puck off his stick going down the middle of the ice, ending the game. The Devils fans were booing in disgust, the NHL now has a brand new blooper, and critics can cackle further about "Kovalchoke" or "Kovaljoke" or some other Averyesque (meaning: not as clever as you think but you'll repeat it anyway) quip.
Between that and firing a slapshot to the high glass on a clear shot at Jhonas Enroth late in the third, no one's really happy with Kovalchuk. That's fair and I understand that. I will say that, yes, he's never been a great shootout performer (9 for 37 lifetime); and even if he did score, all it would do would keep the shootout going. Clearly, he was frustrated tonight andput 3 shots on net right at Enroth. But that's not good enough with Zach Parise out and the team hurting for goals, he needs to disregard (or talk it out or embrace it or whatever) the pressure and produce. Whether or not he has a $100 million deal or just a $5 million deal, the player has to perform. Kovalchuk really hasn't yet, and so while I may not agree with all of the criticism he has received and will receive; he's certainly worthy of some of it. I was disappointed in how he did tonight, but I'll go more into that later.
That said, I can't honestly say that Kovalchuk botched this game He could have salvaged it. He could have made up for a lot of other people's errors by scoring a goal. But the defeat should be laid on his shoulders. Yet, the true culprits for how tonight went down was the collective defensive performance New Jersey Devils. Even when the offense finally gets some breaks and scores some goals, it doesn't excuse a lackadaisical effort in one's own zone. The Devils put one out and so instead of possibly winning the game in regulation, the Buffalo Sabres made them pay the price, forced the game to to extra time, and won out in the end via shootout. Die by the Blade and other Sabres fans have every reason to be pleased; as Devils fans have every reason to be angry or just disgusted (or both).
John MacLean said on Tuesday the Devils needed a win. They didn't get that because the effort wasn't there in both ends. I repeat: almost is never enough. This is also not enough for my thoughts on the game, so please continue after the jump for more.
Before laying into the defense, I want praise the offense. The story of this season so far was that the Devils just could not score goals. Just could not get any breaks. Well, the Devils got both of that tonight.
Jason Arnott, who had a great game tonight, scored twice out of his 5 shots on goal. His first was off a rebound and the second on a blistering slapshot through a multi-player screen. David Clarkson was in the right place, right time when Alexander Vasyunov threw a puck to the slot to re-direct it into the net for a second, not-as-fluky goal. Jamie Langenbrunner had a positive to his game when he did what Vasyunov did, threw the puck to the slot, and it went in off of Chris Butler's skate and went in.
They weren't the four greatest goals scored, each had an element of luck to them. But for a team that needed to score badly, those breaks were like an oasis in the desert. When I harped about how the team just needs to have better luck to score more goals, this was what I'm talking about. Hopefully, the team can get some confidence out of scoring 4 non-empty net goals tonight and get some breaks in future games.
There were other positives by the offense. It may have been confirmation bias, but I noticed that the Devils did seem to swarm around the net more often tonight. It certainly worked since Arnott scored by going to the net, Clarkson and Chris Butler were at the crease for their goals, and Arnott got his second thanks to a monster slapshot going through a monster screen consisting of Dainius Zubrus and David Clarkson. Those who support the notion of "crash the net" to get goals got vindicated by the Devils tonight.
Faceoffs were another area of strength for New Jersey, the team won 38 out of 60. The main centers of Arnott, Zubrus, and Travis Zajac all won at least 60% of their draws. The only Devil who didn't win at least half of their draws was Patrik Elias, who took only one draw after Arnott got thrown out of one and lost it. Not that it necessarily led to a lot, but that additional possession from the start isn't a bad thing.
And the power play, well, they scored a goal! The units only put up 3 shots on net and there's still quite a bit of work to do in terms of establishing a strategy. As well as basics like handling the puck, as Andy Greene caused a shorthanded chance by falling to the ground to prevent the puck from going out. All Buffalo did was take it and go up ice while Greene had to get up. I like the intent but in practice, it was dumb. That gripe aside, Devils fans can rejoice that the Devils scored a rare power play goal thanks to Jason Arnott's slapshot.
Even the youth did fairly well tonight. Mattias Tedenby earned his first NHL point in his first NHL game, a secondary assist on Arnott's first goal from all the way in the Devils' end. He did get pounded a bit physically, but his quickness and tenaciousness showed tonight. He had only one listed shot on goal, but it was a beaut, right in the circle. He played 14:25, so MacLean trusted him enough to not totally protect him. Alexander Vasyunov picked up his second career assist on Clarkson's goal and got 15:08. Stephen Gionta showed plenty of hustle on the fourth line, though only one shot, but he did earn a little (as in 26 seconds) of PK time. Though he may have had a hand in a crucial error.
Now to the criticism, and this will flow into the defensive performance. I've already dealt with Kovalchuk, but his line wasn't so good tonight. Zajac, Kovalchuk, and Langenbrunner combined for 8 shots on goal. That's not bad. As a whole, though, Buffalo was the dominant team when they were on the ice at even strength. Look at the Corsi chart from Time on Ice. Those three put up the worst Corsi and Fenwick numbers among all Devils forwards tonight. I'm not sure if Lindy Ruff went power for power, but if he did, then MacLean's got to know that line was failing there. Again, it may be confirmation bias, but Langenbrunner was especially spotty with his passes tonight. He sometimes missed his own teammates entirely and mishandled simple passes from them. I got a sense that Langenbrunner's performance just made it harder for that line at times, and it may have contributed as to why Buffalo just pounded them at evens. At least the captain can say he got a goal and scored in the shootout.
As a whole, the Devils' Corsi isn't negative from top to bottom since the Sabres only led 28-26 in shots at 5-on-5. Overall, though, Buffalo took full advantage of their power plays with 7 shots and racked up 7 more at 4-on-4 hockey. Anyone who was hoping before the game whether Johan Hedberg would not be left out to dry quickly learned that wasn't happening tonight. Amid those 42 shots and 4 goals allowed, the Sabres had multiple free looks on rebounds, they set up good shots through screens, and they stretched him out, forcing Hedberg to go post-to-post a few times. Hedberg, to his credit, did very well tonight and bailed out the Devils numerous times. This loss isn't on him either. If anything he was let down tonight.
That Hedberg had to bail the Devils defense out multiple times tonight a tall is an indictment the defensive effort. Throw in being responsible on the 4 goals allowed, the 42 shots allowed overall, a second period of allowing 17 shots on goal, the PK nearly getting torched on each of the 7 shots by Buffalo's PP, and some other errors, and I'm absolutely livid by the defensive performance.
Per the game summary, the Devils gave up Buffalo's two goals within 10 seconds of each other despite a complete different set of skaters on each. And Buffalo's third goal came not even 2 minutes after Arnott's then go-ahead power play goal. Per the event summary, the Devils had few answers for Tim Connolly (7 shots) and Jason Pominville (6 shots) while Derek Roy (4 shots, goal) and Tyler Ennis (4 shots, goal) made their marks. Combining all three, Tyler Myers had a great night with a +8 Corsi, a goal (the third one), two assists, and had little problems jumping up on offense. The Devils defense - which includes the defensemen and the forwards backchecking - suffered greatly tonight, and that's with four veteran defenseman, a rookie who has been with the team from the start in Matt Taormina, and Olivier Magnan-Grenier who has been OK so far in his call up.
Guess which defensemen got exposed tonight? Hint: It wasn't the two rookies.
The videotape shows who was at fault, where, and how. Here's the highlight video from NHL.com. You'll see the Devils goals, but do pay attention to the goals Buffalo scored and you'll see why I'm livid.
For those who can't view the video and/or want my thoughts on for each goal allowed:
First goal: The video doesn't do it justice, but the Kovalchuk-Zajac-Langenbrunner pairing was getting dominated and pinned back with Greene and Anton Volchenkov. Buffalo just kept cycling around and putting up shots. It was one of those shifts where you knew something bad was about to happen. Well, it did. A long shot got stopped by Hedberg, and Pominville was wide open in the high slot. The forwards tried to pressure the guys up top, which failed. Greene was on Hecht in front; and Volchenkov was caught in a no man's land. Greene may have screened Hedberg based on where he was too. Bad shift by New Jersey and it resulted in a goal.
Second goal: This goal was horrid to watch. Right after the first goal, 5 new Devils skaters, and all of them slept-walked on this play. How else to explain allowing another goal 13 seconds after allowing one? Derek Roy, the team's top scorer and best player so far this season, just jaunts over the blueline, winds up, and hits either a great shot or a got a great deflection off of Henrik Tallinder's stick. My question: Why was Tallinder so far back on the initial rush, forcing him to make a lot of ground in very little time on Roy? Thank heavens MacLean called a timeout.
Third goal: Buffalo just carries it over to start this play. Andrej Sekera gets it to Rob Niedermayer and the four Devils in camera frame are all facing Niedermayer. Adam Mair was up on Sekera. Anyway, Greene and Taormina for some reason go after him, Rod Pelley is up against another Sabre at the crease, and Gionta's in the right circle. Niedermayer has the lane to pass it diagonally to a wide open Tyler Myers. The last time Tyler Myers got open in Newark, he scored. Guess what? He scored! Adam Mair hustled over but he had no chance to get to Myers just as Hedberg could do little but slide over to try and stop the slapshot. This leads me to some more questions: Why in the world were all five of the skaters on the right side of the ice when that pass was made? Gionta started on the left and went right. Mair was still at the point. Why did both defensemen go into the corner?
Fourth goal: How do you blow a 4-3 lead in the third on home ice? There are many ways. Henrik Tallinder went with Uncommitted Defending, first by being on Tyler Ennis - the eventual scorer - then lunging at the left post to try and stop Myers. The lunge, of course, opened up the passing lane for Myers to put in Myers pass right at point blank range. Colin White decided on Being Out of Position first, since he should have been where Langenbrunner was (just standing at the right post, forcing Myers to go left) and then proceded to go with Not Helping by being close to Ennis but doing nothing when Tallinder made his move. Awful, awful, awful on White and Tallinder there.
In total, the Devils undercut whatever breaks they did get on offense by being poor in their own end. Whether it was by being overwhelmed (GA #1), caught sleeping and not pressuring the other team's top scorer (GA #2), leaving players wide open in wide spaces in your own zone (GA #3), or a combined failure by the defensive pairing (GA #4). While the attention will be put on Ilya Kovalchuk, the harsh reality is that if the Devils did better in their own zone tonight, a few of these goals may not have happened - and perhaps the Devils would have won this important game in regulation instead of losing in the shootout.
The Devils almost got what they needed to win this game tonight. But guess what? Almost is never enough.
Thanks to all of the commenters in the Gamethread. Thanks to you for reading this recap. Please leave your thoughts and feelings about tonight's game in the comments. Know this, Devils, this Friday's game is a must-win.
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it just hurts to see them look so sharp (for once) and yet still blow it. the crowd was behind them the whole time, and as it’s been all season, they couldn’t handle the momentum.
also, was it just me, or did elias slap hedberg in the mask when the second goal was allowed?
and third, it was the first hedberg game i’ve been to…what’s with the “mooooose” (if i heard correctly) chants?
EthanM
Moose is Hedberg’s nickname. Back about 10 years or so, Hedberg established himself in the NHL with Pittsburgh, when they called him up from the Manitoba Moose. Hedberg had a big moose on his light blue helmet which stuck out while playing for the Pens. The fans called him Moose and the name has stuck ever since.
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by John Fischer on Nov 11, 2010 8:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
By no means was that ‘sharp.’ Did they show signs of improvement? Yeah, maybe…but the Sabres are in a dire situation too, and aren’t exactly defending champs.
"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells
by DownGoesAvery on Nov 11, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
All i know is they could have gotten any bum off the street in newark and he would have made a better effort in that shootout than Ilya Smirnoff. I wish i could have seen the press conference after the game if there even was one or what the choke artist had to say for himself. Oh how I wish Doc brown would knock on my door, we’d hop in the DeLoreon, take me to July 1st and drop me off at Lou Lamoriello’s office. Fill in What to say Below ______
by whatjusthappened on Nov 11, 2010 2:06 AM EST reply actions
One thing you didn’t mention on the 2nd goal was Tedenby chasing after the puck which caused Roy to have so much space. Tedenby should have stayed on that side. I don’t know how you can put blame on the defensemen for the 3rd goal either. It’s the wingers job to keep an eye out for defensemen. The only goal that can really be put strictly on the defensemen is the 4th goal.
Criticizing the defense meant criticizing the team’s play in their own end.
In any case, Volchenkov was caught slow and in a bad spot on the 2nd GA; and the d-men and their approach allowed Rob Niedermayer of all people to make a cross-ice pass from the corner to the point. Yes, a forward should have been there, but I can’t not point Greene & Taormina out there.
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by John Fischer on Nov 11, 2010 6:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i don’t think volchenkov was out for the 2nd goal against – tallinder was. even so, goal #2 was an unscreened slapshot from outside the circles – hedberg has to stop that.
on goal #3, rod pelley forgot what position he was playing and left his man totally uncovered.
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Ah, you are right; it was Tallinder (even said so in my recap).
I got to look at the video for #3 again, I almost want to say Gionta was on that side to start (also something I asked in my recap- I really should start reading my own work)
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by John Fischer on Nov 11, 2010 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I was surprisingly disappointed in Volchenkov last night.
"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells
by DownGoesAvery on Nov 11, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Kovalchuk’s performance was disappointing last night, but his failures are not from a lack of effort or caring. The opposite, in fact. He’s pressing, because he feels the weight of expectations, his contract, and the entire team (with Parise injured) all falling on him, and he’s trying to do everything he can think of to produce. Right now, the results just aren’t there…. and I daresay that if his hockey sticks were made of wood, there’d be piles of sawdust all over the ice. Kovy is a streaky player…. at some point he’ll get untracked and put up one of those five-point nights and this will all be forgotten, but with the Devils mired at 4-10-2, that isn’t happening right now.
I’ve said repeatedly that I want MacLean to keep four lines together and run with them for a while. Keeping that in mind, I think Kovalchuk is a poor match with Zajac and Langenbrunner, considering Travis and Jamie play a cycling game on the boards (as does Parise) while Kovy is more of a skilled player who floats into preferred spots in the offensive zone to let them rip. I’d rather see Kovy with Elias (with whom he had good chemistry last season) and either Tedenby or Vasyunov or even Arnott (if you don’t want Elias at center) and let that line work more off the rush and less trying to grind out goals. I think Ilya Kovalchuk needs a playmaking center who will get him the puck in particular spots, so he (Ilya) can do what he does best — let ‘er rip — because he isn’t particularly effective at the type of style ZZ Pops employs. His best seasons in Atlanta featured Marc Savard as his center, after all. (They also featured a disciplinarian at coach who sat on his players, but that’s not part of this particular discussion point.)
The last time the Devils scored four goals (or more) and lost was October 28th, 2009 (a 6-5 shoot-out loss to Toronto). The previous occasion was a 5-4 loss in Philadelphia on March 6, 2008.
Think about that: it’s been two years since the Devils combined such a good offensive game with such a horrid defensive game, and a year-and-a-half from that occurance to the previous. Rather than blame Kovalchuk for everything, perhaps the defense needs to be the focus tonight? There’s no excuse for an NHL team to lose a game where their offense was as productive as the Devils’ offense was tonight. We’ve spent weeks crying about how the offense isn’t doing their part…. well, the offense pulled its share of the load tonight.
by acasser on Nov 11, 2010 10:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Solid Post
Let me even expand a bit. Last year the Devils were 37-3-1 when scoring 3 or more goals.
Also, last year the Devils gave up 5 goals in 7 games, and lost all 7 (never allowed more than 5). This year they have already given up 5 or more 4 times.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall. - Vince Lombardi
by Devilssection21fan on Nov 11, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
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I consider four the “magic number” for a team’s offense in today’s NHL. There’s the shoot-out, which guarantees there will be an “overtime goal” included in the final…. and the post-lockout NHL is a little more accomodating to skill players over the clutch-and-grab era of the preceding decade. Thus, I put a little less stock in “3 or more goals”, if only because overall scoring is up.
The Devils were involved in five 4-3 games (winning three) last season…. the Devils also won a pair of 5-4 games last season. If I’m adding things up right, the Devils were 9-23-3 when they allowed three or more goals last season. In contrast, the Devils were 25-0-0 when they scored four or more goals last season, and 2-15-1 when they allowed four goals or more (with the two wins being against Atlanta in a game Marty was pulled, and at Toronto in overtime).
Or for another depressing stat…. I mentioned above the last time the Devils lost a game where they scored four goals (or more). Since then, the Devils had won 53 consecutive games where they scored four or more, until last night.
I still submit this one is not wholly on Kovy. Sure, he had opportunities that he squandered. He wasn’t alone…. and for those who want him to do more on his own, didn’t he beat three Sabres early in the first period only to get stoned by the goalie?
Perhaps the Devils need to stop making other goalies, especially relative unknowns, look like Georges Vezina.
I touched on your last post in last night’s game thread after the game was over, and since that’s a bit in the past I’ll just reiterate a bit of what I wrote. I completely agree with what you say about Kovy. He’s facing a ton of pressure, between the fans, the weight of his contract and the summer’s drama, and feeling the weight of the team on his back with Parise out. It seems to me like he’s playing with so much on his plate that he’s forgotten how to have fun and do what he does best. He’s trying to claw himself out of a bad situation and oftentimes that only makes the problem worse. He’s trying too hard to the point where it’s a hindrance on his skills and abilities.
Playing in NJ has, I would dare to say, been toxic to his game. It seems there was pressure on him to put them in the net from his very first game. And when that didn’t happen, the pressure built game after game when he wasn’t getting goals from the start. I remember before every telecast how Doc and Chico were always pointing out how many games he’s played for us so far without getting that important first goal (it took six or seven games as I recall).
The guy has skill, the guy has talent…and I have faith that he’ll turn it around and prove every single one of his detractor’s wrong.
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by Marty 4 Prez on Nov 11, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fan Support
I don’t want to sound preachy, but boy, talk about fans turning on a team that has given 17 straight years of very successful hockey (gong back to at least 93/94)
I’m not talking about just being critical or concerned – we have a right as fans to do that. But on some of the game threads/other posts I am seeing “fans” who are happy that Jamie Langenbrunner might have been hurt, “fans” who are suggesting Kovalchuk take a hike into the hudson river etc, and “fans” who are trashing a GM who has build a 20 year history of success (even to the point of calling him senile and losing it) because of an admittedly brutal season so far.
Some of you might as well become Flyers fans if you want to trash your team when things aren’t going well. I thought only Philly fans were big enough jerks to shred their teams when they were not performing the way these “fans” see fit.
I’m also not totally on board with Langenbrunner’s comments about it being too bad about the fans booing Kovy. As someone said above, what the heck are we supposed to do. But I also dont think he is totally off base – think about how it might feel to be getting ripped by your fan base during a slump when you have given those fans a TON to cheer about in the last decade. Holy what have you done for me lately.
For those who are trashing Kovy as a franchise destroying signing, how about a little perspective. This is 16 games people. This guy is the one of the 5 elite scorers in this league in the last 5+ years – consistently. Can we give him the season before we treat him like garbage?
My take is now is when the guys on this team need us to all step up and back them up even more. Maybe I am overreacting to a few bad apples – the Arena did look pretty loud last night. But if you are one of the fans who have become openly hostile to this team then take a hike – this team has given us too much good hockey for too long – fair weather fans need not apply.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall. - Vince Lombardi
by Devilssection21fan on Nov 11, 2010 11:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Couldn’t of said it better.
People need to realize that just because you receive a $100 million contract, you are not a robot. You will have mistakes, you will not be perfect 100% of the time. Was it unfortunate that what happened, happened? Sure, of course it was. Do we all wish it would of been different? Of course we do. But to completely go off the deep end and suggest he find cement blocks to wade out into the Hudson River with is just plain immature. And to think that Ilya is not as disappointed as the rest of us is garbage too. He knows the expectations that are on him, he knows what we are all expecting and it’s obvious he is trying. He’s pressing big time, trying to make things happen. I laugh because the same people who are essentially wanting to throw him out of town will be the same ones who are going nuts and saying how great he is if/when he scores 5 goals in a game.
As John shows above, we did not lose this game because of a high slap shot into the glass or a bouncing puck on a shootout attempt. We lost due to many mistakes scattered throughout the game. As many negatives there were in last nights game, there were also many positives.
Some people just need to step back away from the keyboard for a second and think rational thoughts before typing.
i actually think devils fans have been patient with kovalchuk. the issue with someone like kovalchuk is that when they’re not scoring, they’re a detriment to the team. what kovalchuk should be doing is backchecking hard and working on his defensive zone game, but he isn’t doing that.
Patient? Patient!?!
You call all the grief he’s gotten 16 (or fewer) games into a season patient? The only guy on this site who has been given less of a rope is John MacLean…. I think there were calls for his head in half of that time, maybe even sooner.
Yes, Kovalchuk should probably be doing more of the “little things” like backchecking. I think he’s doing a goodly amount of it, more than he’s given credit for and more than he was expected to do after the freewheeling style he was allowed to play in Atlanta. I even said so in the comments to this FanPost. However, I think he’d get little slack from a lot of people even if he were doing all of that and still not scoring, because people would then cry “he’s paid to score!”
If there is any of our free agent signees from the summer who should be booed out of the building based on his play thus far, it’s Henrik Tallinder. Alas, there aren’t expectations for him to put up numbers, and most fans pay more attention to the glittery offensive types than to defensemen who are having problems playing defense.
i mean, i think it’s funny that you focus on tallinder who’s been given little help, often playing with the horrendous andy greene and being given difficult minutes on top of it – and not kovalchuk who’s been largely unproductive and sometimes listless.
kovalchuk has 3 goals in 16 games, that’s frankly unacceptable. it’s completely unacceptable. i know he’s pressing and that he’s trying to score, but he’s not doing enough to help himself out. go into the corners and get the puck yourself if that’s the way the play is developing.
the crowd has not booed kovalchuk until last night. that is frankly, amazing. a rangers crowd would have been on him long before that.
The only guy who has gotten less rope from this site is John MacLean. It’s been nearly three weeks since the first threads calling for his termination showed up here and here.
Kovalchuk’s performance isn’t acceptable. But he’s not the sole cause of this team’s misfortunes — there’s more than enough blame to go around that Ilya’s part in this is relatively small when compared to the great, stinking mess that is today’s Devils.
i think it’s funny that you focus on tallinder who’s been given little help
How has Tallinder had any less “help” than Kovy? So Andy Greene has been horrible, and most of the rest of the blue line has been the Albany roster rotated through Newark. How much help have the other forwards given Kovalchuk? The PP hasn’t scored at all…. Jamie Langenbrunner is just starting to wake up after hibernating this summer, Zach Parise is hurt, Elias and Arnott have not played to expectations, and there have been a rash of injuries to the forwards as well. Heck, even Dainius Zubrus has gone two weeks without putting a point on the board.
We were given rave reviews about Henrik Tallinder and what he could bring to the club to compensate for Paul Martin’s departure. Frankly, I don’t see what we’ve gotten out of him that couldn’t have been duplicated by any of the kids from Albany (and for a lot less money, to boot). Too often Tallinder is turning the puck over in the defensive zone or simply letting his man go free. His passes haven’t been good, and I haven’t seen any of that wonderful “mentoring” to all the kids that have been paraded through.
I notice Tallinder because many of his mistakes have ended up in the back of our net. For an team whose offense has been dormant most of the season, this is the sort of thing we can’t afford, considering the number of tight, low-scoring games we’ve lost. Kovy could do more to help that equation, be it scoring goals or paying more mind to defense…. but Tallinder is being paid for his defense and his mentorship more than anything else. Ilya Kovalchuk is not. Even at his best, Kovy isn’t going to shoot 20% for the season. Ergo, most of his work isn’t going to end with some level of success (especially not in shootouts, where he was 9-for-37 lifetime before last night’s debacle).
Both players have been a problem thus far this season. I don’t object to vitriol directed at Ilya Kovalchuk…. rather, I object to all the blame being placed on him when there’s so much to go around it isn’t funny anymore.
go into the corners and get the puck yourself if that’s the way the play is developing
Yes, Kovy could do that. He’s just not particularly adept at it, and it has never been his style of play. I don’t see a need to try and squeeze round pegs into square holes. Put players in a position to succeed, by pairing them with complementary forwards whose strengths play well with one another. Zajac and Langenbrunner are efficient at the cycle game, but it is also a style that often demands three forwards. Zubrus (and maybe Clarkson) are better suited for that and should be on the left wing on that line, IMO.
As for Kovalchuk, I think he’d be better served working with a playmaker who will get him the puck in preferred spots so he can unleash that terrific shot of his. Kovalchuk had terrific numbers with Patrick Elias last season, and I’d like to see the two of them back together. Whether you want Arnott centering that group, or a kid like Tedenby or Vasyunov (or Zharkov) on the wing with Patrick at center, I think that would play better to Kovy’s strengths…. not to mention that an all-European finesse line might work better than scattering those kinds of players hither and yon.
the crowd has not booed kovalchuk until last night. that is frankly, amazing. a rangers crowd would have been on him long before that.
Other teams’ fans are notoriously fickle and turn on their players very quickly at times. More than Rangers fans, you have Flyers fans who would have been booing Kovy by the second home game. Don’t judge NJ fans against fans of other teams, because there are different experiences, different expectations, and different levels of success that temper everything. It isn’t an apples-to-apples equiation.
How has Tallinder had any less "help" than Kovy? So Andy Greene has been horrible, and most of the rest of the blue line has been the Albany roster rotated through Newark. How much help have the other forwards given Kovalchuk? The PP hasn’t scored at all…. Jamie Langenbrunner is just starting to wake up after hibernating this summer, Zach Parise is hurt, Elias and Arnott have not played to expectations, and there have been a rash of injuries to the forwards as well. Heck, even Dainius Zubrus has gone two weeks without putting a point on the board.
the other forwards have given kovalchuk lots of help. kovalchuk has been put almost exclusively with the devils’ best players and in favorable situations. what more do they need? look, i’m aware that the rest of the team hasn’t helped – that’s why they have won 4 of their first 16 games. no one has played particularly well so far. so i’m not putting this on kovalchuk. still, he’s sucking up all the good ice time and nothing is coming out of it.
As for Kovalchuk, I think he’d be better served working with a playmaker who will get him the puck in preferred spots so he can unleash that terrific shot of his. Kovalchuk had terrific numbers with Patrick Elias last season, and I’d like to see the two of them back together. Whether you want Arnott centering that group, or a kid like Tedenby or Vasyunov (or Zharkov) on the wing with Patrick at center, I think that would play better to Kovy’s strengths…. not to mention that an all-European finesse line might work better than scattering those kinds of players hither and yon.
they’re not being scattered hither and yon. do you know how bad a kovalchuk-arnott-vasyunov line would be defensively? they may as well just concede a goal once the puck comes into the defensive zone.
it’s not about square pegs in round holes. it’s about doing whatever it takes to help the team win, not staring in at puck battles and hoping the puck comes to you in a bad scoring position and where the defense is already ready for you. being stationary in the offensive zone rarely leads to anything good. i agree that langenbrunner is a bad fit for that line and he cost them a lot last night – he really is terrible this year, his speed is completely gone.
Other teams’ fans are notoriously fickle and turn on their players very quickly at times. More than Rangers fans, you have Flyers fans who would have been booing Kovy by the second home game. Don’t judge NJ fans against fans of other teams, because there are different experiences, different expectations, and different levels of success that temper everything. It isn’t an apples-to-apples equiation.
i again say that is a minor miracle. kovalchuk would be booed every time he touches the puck if he did this in montreal, philadelphia, or new york.
I have to agree with both you to a degree. Yes, Kovalchuk’s performance is unacceptable. Granted, it didn’t help that MacLean gave him several games with a rookie center a rotating cast of not-good wingers at the time (it wasn’t until Anaheim where he realized that Kovalchuk-Elias-Vasyunov might work, and it did to a degree); but he’s now in a far more favorable situation and he needs to take advantage.
But I think the main reason why people didn’t get on him until now is because everyone else wasn’t producing either. A lot of the booing, I believe, was a result of the lack of wins at home. Here comes Kovalchuk with a chance to make a difference (win it in the 3rd period, keep the shootout going), and he completely failed (slapshot up to the high glass, loses puck in shootout). Hence, the already angry/frustrated/unhappy masses had their target to express themselves. As I said in this recap, he’s worthy of the criticism – though he wasn’t the cause for the loss. If NJ had a few wins already, this loss doesn’t get the negative response it did. We’d regard the whole thing as a bad night and move on. But at 0-5-2 at home, it’s more of a punch to the stomach and so it is what it is.
That said, Tallinder has been horrid. I’d almost go as far as to say he’s been the worst. Spare me the “he hasn’t had help” or “he’s played tough minutes” part. For the first, he rolled with a rookie all last season on Buffalo’s top pairing. Yet, despite being paired with vets and rookies alike on NJ, Tallinder has been an overall negative. For the second, that falls on MacLean and his staff for continuing to put a sucky Tallinder in tougher situations along with Tallinder not sorting out his own game.
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by John Fischer on Nov 11, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
c’mon john, you’re better than comparing tyler myers to olivier magnan. magnan is a guy who will be lucky to see the NHL ever again. tyler myers is probably a star defenseman – not yet, but it won’t be that long before he is – and played very well last season.
the devils don’t have a choice. who do you want out in tough situations? you can’t just have one pair taking tough minutes on a negative territorial team. andy greene was well protected last year and for good reason – he’s not very good. matt taormina is a complete adventure in the d zone.
c’mon john, you’re better than comparing tyler myers to olivier magnan. magnan is a guy who will be lucky to see the NHL ever again. tyler myers is probably a star defenseman – not yet, but it won’t be that long before he is – and played very well last season.
Don’t shove words into my comments. I didn’t even mention Magnan.
Tell you what. This weekend, I’ll look at the head to head ice time charts at Time on Ice and figure out from there who Tallinder has played the most with this season at evens. I’m pretty confident it’s not Magnan.
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by John Fischer on Nov 11, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
it’s probably greene, but he’s played a lot with magnan, corrente, and urbom. and this is part of the problem.
All will be revealed tomorrow.
Note: By All, I mean who Tallinder has played with this season.
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by John Fischer on Nov 12, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I would like to see Kovy-Zubrus-Vasyunov a try. Zubrus is a big guy and he’s having a decent year at worst, and the other two are pretty talented. Zajac could center Elias and either Clarkson/Langenbrunner, or put Arnott with them…even if it means spreading them over 3 lines.
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by DownGoesAvery on Nov 11, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
if i was a season ticket holder i’d be really pissed. but i’m not so i beleive kovy will get out of it 2, hedberg on the other hand made some nice saves last night, but in the 3rd period it wasn’t a question of if the sabres would tie it up but when..and i think tallinder might be the worst thing to happen to this team, how do you think the game would’ve turned out if marty was in nets?
This was a disappointing effort, the Devils made some key plays to keep themselves in this game, but they gave up 42 shots, and maybe they weren’t all world-class scoring chances, and yes, Hedberg allowed a couple of goals glove-side that I’m sure he wants back, but this was not a very good effort. The suspects in this game are worrying. Volchenkov was out of position on a goal, he looked slow, Greene had a poor game, Tallinder left (Ennis?) wide open in front on the (4th) Buffalo goal, I mean these are concerning to say the least.
As for the forwards, I know Tedenby made some mistakes, but not a bad game from him, he’s the future as far as I’m concerned (along with the ‘core’). Vasyunov looks very impressive so far at the NHL level. I’m optimistic about him, and it was very big for Clarkson to get that goal, especially after John Fischer calls him out on this site the other day. You like to hope that Langenbrunner’s lucky goal (even though Zajac punches that in anyway if he gets through) gets him going, but boy…Ilya Kovalchuk, he had good chances from the drop of the puck, and just couldn’t finish, he is PRESSING out there. That’s all I have to say about Kovy, I’m frustrated, he’s frustrated…
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I didn’t see a whole heck of a lot of this game, although I will be attending tomorrow night’s game against the Oilers. I’m not sure if anyone thought this as well or if I’m thinking too far into depth with it, but did anyone notice Langenbrunner’s reaction after scoring the goal in the shootout? Namely, the complete lack of reaction in a crucial moment and even a look of disdain at the cheers of the crowd? Jamie had this to say after the game regarding the Kovalchuk flop:
You can tell he’s trying out there," said Devils captain Jamie Langenbrunner, who tried to console Kovalchuk after his failed shootout attempt. "He wants to do well every shift, every night. It’s not happening for him and you feel bad for him because he’s such a good guy and a guy that wants to be the guy, and it’s not happening. It’s unfortunate for him that he got treated that way at the end of the game."
Langenbrunner has repeatedly remarked on the negative reactions of the crowd throughout this season. I don’t know exactly what kind of reaction he was expecting when the team is in November and winless at home, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Jamie is not exactly happy with the fans of New Jersey right now. All the more reason why I feel like he should be moved.
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He’s trying to stick up for his guys, but yeah, he doesn’t come across well doing it.
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by John Fischer on Nov 11, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
We don’t hate the players, we hate what’s going on. Jamie should understand that, partially because that’s what fans do and partially because he might be next.
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by DownGoesAvery on Nov 11, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed with Langenbrunner on the fans (I don't think he should be moved)
Everybody is frustrated..Players, Coaches, Mgmt, and the fans are too, obviously to a lesser degree (mind the crazy people that call for suicides and firings of Lou after 10-15 games). I’m surprised about his reaction to the fans reaction. What else were they supposed to do? Cheer?
“Us fans haven’t seen a win this season, but you put up a good offensive effort and got one point so we will cheer for yet another loss.” Let’s be serious…
This is professional sports, not college where a good effort with a defeat is supported and saluted. Also, this is a franchise that has had a winning mentality for 15 years. The fans want the team to win (duh) when they are expected too (I expect a win from the Devils every game..I know I’m not going to get one every night) Lou and Co. have built a franchise that has made me think this way..that this team is capable of winning every game, every night no matter who the opponent is. This isn’t a bad team, even with all the injuries, and I think the fans understand this, thus they show their concern. I have always felt that Devils fans have good enough hockey knowledge and are loyal enough (again mind the Crazy people) to be able to express themselves at the whole team for it to be warranted.
You know what I would have absolutely loved, if Langs said something like this :
“Fans have every right to boo. We aren’t performing to the level they expect and we as a team expect and everybody knows we haven’t played a full game yet. It’s been a rough start and we will get back to Devils hockey, to winning hockey, to the way we are supposed to play that is expected by the fans, mgmt, coaches, and ourselves as players.”
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by Matthew Ventolo on Nov 11, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions

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