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The Five (or so) Stages of Dealing with the Disappointing New Jersey Devils

Let's be frank. The New Jersey Devils have been bad this season. Very bad.  Back in September, we were expecting yet another good season and just about insistent on playoff success.  It's now December 9, the team sits in fourteenth in the Eastern Conference, and has a record of 8-17-2 after 27 games played.  

For those of you who are unaware, here's a quick summary. The Devils have been shut out 4 times, they still do not score an average of 2 goals per game (it's 1.78 per game); the power play is converting at a miserable 12.8%; the players have been burnt repeatedly in their own zone due to errors like leaving opposing players wide open while standing about; the goaltenders have been left out to dry; the coaches look mindless or helpless; the captain of the team is repeating himself after games; and the second period has been miserable.  The team has exactly 4 wins at home, 4 wins on the road, and can lose to anyone in by any manner.    I could go on, but I really don't want to.

Needless to say, it has been a disappointing season so far.  Incredibly, extremely, and ingloriously disappointing.

As a supporter of the team, I'm not going to leave this team behind.  However, with all of this losing, I sense that some are just going through stages of dealing with it.  It's like the Kübler-Ross model, a defined process for how people deal grieve or undergo tragic loss,. The model is discredited for such serious issues namely because people just don't feel in stages or in a process.  Perhaps for something as our favorite hockey team being terrible, which is not nearly as serious, the model would be a better fit.  So I've taken a stab at defining the five (or so) stages of dealing with a such a disappointing team.

Star-divide

Stage 1: Disbelief

You know things haven't gone well until you see something terrible. An atrocious play. A horrid line combination. The sight of 5 Devils pinned in their own zone, unable to get the puck - and unable to do more than just dump or ice it when if they do get it.   You sit there, really questioning what you're seeing.   Wondering whether you're really watching a professional ice hockey team get beaten on fundamentals, or get destroyed in yet another second period.

Example Remarks: "Really? Devils, is this really happening? This cannot be happening. Not again. I refuse to accept this." ; "Ilya Kovalchuk being double shifted with Adam Mair and Rod Pelley?  Really? MacLean?"; "Another brutal second period, I can't believe it - this team just doesn't learn."

Stage 2: Frustration

You may consider this to be anger, but it's truly out of frustration.  You've seen this mess before. You know you're going to see this mess again.  You know whatever hopes you will have will be dashed. You know that change may not be coming. And it's just about infuriating.   You spent all day working or at least looking forward tot the game, and you get this for your money.  It sucks and you feel that way about everything and it just adds to the frustration.

Not just the performance by the players on the ice or the coaches. But also the people around you who chatter away during the game, the fools who keep yelling "SHOOOOT" everytime the Devils have the puck, the cost of the ticket, the cost of going to the game, the management of the team, the atmosphere at the games, the loudness of the PA, the (now colder) weather, the posts by Gulitti and Chere after the game, and the recaps by bloggers who know nothing about anything (and they may even disagree with what you saw).  Forget about whether it's really a problem, it all sucks and it all needs to be changed. Fire everything, even the inanimate objects and concepts.

What you see over and over just adds to the jar of frustration you internally hold, built up from whatever else you've been carrying. Frankly, the Devils games just about put you over the top of that jar; and they make you want to scream (and when they do, they come with monster piles of expletives and invective)

Example of General Sentiment: "ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!!!"

Stage 3: Nostalgia

The New Jersey Devils have been one of the best teams of the last 15 years.  Since 1994, they've been contenders and three-time champions of the NHL.  You sit there, watching the 2010-11 Devils and begin to look to the past, where making the playoffs was never in doubt and the goal for the season was seriously to go for the Stanley Cup.  You feel that if Scott Stevens was the captain, this wouldn't be happening because bad things never happened when Scotty wore the "C." That if the defense had Scott Niedermayer and/or Brian Rafalski, there would never be so many simple errors.  If only the offense could look to the 2000-01 team and be built that way.   You lament that former important players who justifiably weren't re-signed by the Devils at the time are with other teams and are not bad.  You consider making impossible bargains for this year's team to re-capture what went right in prior seasons. The coaches of the past wouldn't put up with this garbage. 

Rightly or wrongly, you feel something is missing today that they just had in the glory days.  Because the present is so hard to watch, you retreat to the past with all of the fond memories and achievements.

Example Thoughts: "If only Scott Stevens was in the locker room, then he'd surely set Jamie Langenbrunner straight."; "Oh, why didn't Lou re-sign Brian Gionta?"

Stage 4: Dejection

At this stage, you are becoming numb to the poor play, the lack of goals, the multitude of goals against, and the losses.  Instead of getting frustrated or angry at something going wrong, you just sit there in silence, sort of staring at the ice or TV screen.  You fret over talking with people who know you're a Devils fan, since they will probably ask you, "How are the Devils doing?" or "What's wrong with the Devils?" and you have no actual answer for those questions.  (If you did, please contact the Devils).  You consider leaving games early or skipping them entirely; and perhaps you actually do that.  If you write on message board posts or on blogs about yet another loss, then you just sit there wondering what to write this time about what you just saw. Your spirits at a fan are just at a low.  You may have been there before, but it always feels like you never have before now.

When some people feel sad, they sing the blues to feel better about their troubles.  But if you're like me and you have no musical talent, you may resort to deprecating humor or rationalizations to cope with the dejection.  Yet, the bad feelings just don't go away as the losses mount for New Jersey.

Examples of Deprecating Humor: "Jamie Langenbrunner, also known as Captain Lollygagger."; "The Devils are unfortunately sandbagged with an under-performing and over-paid left winger that they can't move, and they also have Ilya Kovalchuk for 15 years."; "Good thing Martin Brodeur is pushing 39, he may want out if he was younger."

Examples of Rationalizations: "Well, at least I won't have being paying money to be horrified in person by a first round heartbreak in 2011."

At this point, I believe there are two divergent but final stages.

Stage 5a: Bailing Out

You figure you have enough of this. You've said it so many times either to yourself or others you know; but this time, you mean it. You're out. You figure, "So what, if I'm called a bandwagon fan? Their opinion doesn't matter."  You don't see the point in following this horrible team, much less spending time and money to watch them play.  There's more valuable things to do, things for self-improvement, things to improve your social standing, things to do around your place of living, etc. You'll check them out from afar, and if they improve, then you might come back.  Emphasis on might.

Suggestion for Those in this Stage: You may want to not tell any hardcore fans about this, you'll never hear the end of it.  Actually, some may figure it out anyway - so be prepared to never hear the end of it.  And check your ankles to see if they're broken when you come back from jumping off another bandwagon.

Stage 5b: Acceptance

You accept that this team just isn't doing well this year.  You don't like it, but you don't let it get to you. You don't fall into disbelief or dejection over what you saw.  As nice as the past was, you hold firm to the belief that you can't go forward if you're always looking behind.  Instead, you rationally process what you witness and try to figure out how bad it has been, where it all went wrong on a play, and wonder why they suck.  You remain following the Devils as you would before because being a supporter means being there when times are good and times are bad.  You take this season as it is, while you aren't happy about it, you calmly look at what could be improved upon, what should be removed, and appreciate whatever good comes out of the season.  At a minimum, you'll be come a hardened fan of the New Jersey Devils.

Potential Lessons: The regular season isn't at all meaningless, the playoffs are earned not assumed, and looking past anyone is a great way to lose hockey games.

Anyway, I hope you appreciated this non-stats look at the Devils season so far and at least saw where I'm coming from on all of these.  What stage are you in?  Is there an additional stage you would like to suggest?  Please give your take in the comments. Thanks for reading.

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I’m starting to get around the fact that this team isn’t doing well, but just because i’m cynical at times i’m probably going to permanently be stuck at 4.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Dec 9, 2010 10:05 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

+1

I’ve been in 4 for quite some time, and I have set up a nice little camp there.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Dec 9, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been at 5b for a couple of weeks now.

At this point I honestly watch games not to see them win, but just to see how they’ll blow this one.

by Zelepukin on Dec 9, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Same exact opinion. My belief that they could win a game is at about 0.1%. Might reach 10% against the Islanders but no higher.
Every game its something new, be it stupid defensive mistakes or the typical anemic offense not performing.

by devilsfan2662 on Dec 9, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post, sums up the feelings on the season pretty well.

I am always in 5B, but dabbling in 4 takes the edge off.

I would request a ‘False Bravado’ stage. In this stage you map out ways they can still be successful and make a run. Essentially this is thinking with your heart and not your head.

Also, maybe this is a variation of Stage 4, but there should be a ‘facepalm’ stage that occurs when you are hoping that LL will pull off a major move or say something foreshadowing change and all you hear him say is ‘stay the course’ and ‘status quo’.

by Tom Stivali on Dec 9, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions  

That's a good suggestion

Now that I think about it, I should have split Stage 3 into two since some fans revert to nostalgia and others go into Hopeless Optimism (Ok, all they need is a goal here, then a winning streak, the opponents to be extra tired, my lucky socks, and an inspirational speech from a mermaid on a unicorn – and everything will be OK. Any moment now…)

I liken facepalming to the other stages, but that’s just me.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2010 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Mermaids can’t ride unicorns. Not even side saddle, too slippery.

by Murdoc on Dec 9, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Mermaids can ride seahorse unicorns. I saw it happen once off the beaches of Asbury Park. But that’s a different story…with different stages.

"Look at my face. I came here to play a hockey game and look at my face." -Kris Draper

by HELLAWAITS on Dec 9, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point sir, good point. That would imply an underwater ride. Which is good; I hear Mermaid is far easier to understand underwater.

by Murdoc on Dec 9, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s the extreme of hopeless optimism.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2010 2:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

5B is the place to be man. It’s relaxing, your not stressing. Ho-hum

by Kyle Hamelin on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

I start every game with a 1, and make the journey through to 5b every damn night. It’s exhausting.

by Murdoc on Dec 9, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

This.

Stage 2 always comes around by the 2nd period. Stage 3 is during the intermission. My jokes and bass guitar come out during the 3rd period. Stage 5b is after the game.

For all the fans who fall into 5a: Good riddance. Aside from how this season is going (and all the reasons why it’s going this way), you have to take the bad times with the good times. Being faithful during the low moments of a franchise strengthens your relationship and connection you’ll have with the team when they turn it around and it will be that much sweeter. Ask any Devils fan that started being one in the 80s, a Flyers fan having to go through 6 SCF defeats since they’ve won a Cup, or Rag fans who waited decades until they could buy one. Tough it out lads, if not, go root for someone else; I’d rather have the Rock filled with 14k fans than 17k bandwagon homer 5a’s.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Dec 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Rec’d for awesomeness

by Tom Stivali on Dec 9, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh. Bandwagon fans are annoying, but no more so than some other types of fans.

They support the team when they buy tickets and merchandise and help make the game experience more fun. Who cares if they’re only doing it because they like to associate with winners and garner some sort of personal satisfaction over being more closely tied to a winning team than one who isn’t doing well?

Don’t get me wrong; I hate having, for example, a Penguins fan who grew up in NJ and didn’t even follow hockey until just a few short years ago cough*mysister*cough talk smack, but her words only sting because they’re largely true, not because of who is saying it.

I think bandwagon fans get a bad rap because long-time fans resent that they had to suffer through the hard times, as if that qualifies them for some kind of special fandom that makes them superior. It’s like sitting impatiently at the world’s longest red light and having it click green just as another driver rolls up, never having to even touch his brake.

Personally, I just can’t work up the vitriol for them. Rather, I pity them for their apparent poor sense of self-worth that compels them to boost it through the actions of others and thank them for helping to pay my preferred team’s salaries and utility bills.

by elesias on Dec 9, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

elesias always uses the best metaphors

Because when that driver flies past me, when I’ve been sitting there forever, I’m always like, “YOU A-HOLE!” like its their fault.

"If he were a hockey player, he’d pour some whiskey on it, nut up, and kick some ass."

by LangsForPres on Dec 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s a fair point. I have no issue with people coming into the Rock ready to hand the Devils their money in general.

Perhaps I should have been meaner in Stage 5a: “You’re jumping ship because the Devils were bad for 27 games and that hurts more than the ridiculous amount of wins they earned in the last 5-10 years” Something like that.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, this is exaclty what I was thinking while reading this article.

And yeah .. it’s so mentally exhausting. But it’s better than being a 5a! The term “5a” for a bandwagon fan should be trademarked.

by dasru on Dec 9, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I just hit 5. Everytime they win I think, ‘’Here we go, the beast is rising.’’ Then they absolutely put forth a bomb which puts me right into accepting that this team is NOT making the playoffs. I know its early but I sure as hell aren’t seeing any signs of a turn around.

by statusquo on Dec 9, 2010 10:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I’m a stubborn s.o.b., so I haven’t gotten past stage 2 with the Devils yet. Until they’re mathematically eliminated (or very nearly so), I probably won’t get past it, either.

As a lifelong Jets fan, I save steps 4 and 5b for the green-and-white. I describe my love affair with the Jets (to my co-workers, all Giants fans) as being like Sisyphus pushing the rock up the mountain. Only, when Sisyphus loses his grip on the rock, it comes down on top of him and carries him down the mountain (instead of the poor guy just having to chase it).

by acasser on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

I’m at 5b but somewhere in me is a sliver of confidence for the team to make 8th place.

8th Place!- Jackie Moon!

by whatjusthappened on Dec 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

I have been stuck in stage 4 for a while now. The outward displays of negative emotions have been replaced by laughter due to the absurdity of the play on the ice. I do absolutely dread anytime a friend or family member asks me why the Devils are so bad. I have given up trying to explain the problems with the team and I have simply resorted to “I don’t know what’s wrong, but even worse, the team doesn’t know what’s wrong.”

by kaw327 on Dec 9, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe I’m a bad fan, though I prefer to think I’m just pragmatic, but I kind of glossed over Stage 1 when they fell flat out of the gate; simmered on Stage 2 for a couple of weeks; skipped over Stage 3 entirely because I rarely engage in such activities; only flirted with Stage 4 because, hey, it’s not like I can do anything about it; and arrived at Stage 5b before October was out.

I do use the humor from Stage 4 to deal with 5b, and do briefly revisit Stage 2 and 4 when I have to interact with a Rangers or Penguins fan who takes great delight in the team’s plight and make certain I know it, but I just can’t see getting too worked up about it. It’s times like these that should temper a fan’s emotional investments and allow them to take a step back and reevaluate just how much their personal contentment is tied up in the performance of a team and players they have zero input into or control over.

by elesias on Dec 9, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I’m somewhere between frustration and dejection. While I’ll still jump out of my seat and yell at the tv Shoot! Or some other verbal ways of venting… It quickly sets in that it’s happening again and I just sit back down, sigh, and drink my beer as I remember the good times of past seasons but realize that all things must go through a drastic change at some point. I still can’t accept it though. Haven’t got to that point yet, I’ll never bail. I’ve been a Devil fan for far to long.

by Devil man on Dec 9, 2010 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

Long Time Reader / First Time Poster

I just had to finally post… you’ve hit the nail on the head. I mean, i would get angry and upset and yell things during a bad game in one of the “glory” years. I’ve done enough this season as I have in the past 3 season combined. I’m just emotionally drained. I’m not in 5a, but I do not make a special effort anymore to listen to the internet broadcast (I’m in s. Jersey and forced to put up with freakin’ Flyers TV broadcasts) if I have something better to do. I still put myself in 5b. I will NEVER EVER give up on this team. Even if my rabid ranting and ravings have deminished (I found myself one night close to tears… that’s when I knew I had to start backing away… during the shutout loss to the Islanders) I will just have to accept this season for what it is.

All that being said… this organization better learn from it’s mistakes. I will accept this horrendous season if SOMETHING good can come out of it. Maybe a good draft pick, maybe the services of a coach that we would have otherwised missed because we would wait until 10 games left in the season to make a change. I just don’t know, but it would make this season a little more tolerable.

by DrWho720 on Dec 9, 2010 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

There is an easy way to stay at Stage 1 on the verge of Stage 2.

How? Willful blindness as to the continuing failures and cognitive dissonance as to the trends and tendencies.

In a way, this is like living (like a goldfish?): so in the moment that the last game (ahem, Game 7 vs. Carolina) is not simply un-remembered, but that it never really happened.

Something tells me the team can only maintain their sanity if they do this. Perhaps that is the foundation of public comments: we just have to keep chopping, play our game, don’t over-correct, and keep at it. Perhaps it is even the foundation of personal and professional success, such that one is not water-logged by his own (their own) failure.

But, how can one transform Disbelief and Frustration around, feeding off it and re-kindling a phoenix of passion and success from the ashes of their defeat?

I have no idea. But, the question reminds me of reminds me of Ayn Rand’s own Introduction to the republication of The Fountainhead and how to survive, in a sense, amid great disappointment.

"It is not the works, but the belief which is here decisive and determines the order of rank – to employ once more an old religious formula with a new and deeper meaning, – it is some fundamental certainty which a noble soul has about itself, something which is not to be sought, is not to be found, and perhaps, also, is not to be lost. – The noble soul has reverence for itself. –" (Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil.)

This view of man has rarely been expressed in human history. Today, it is virtually non-existent. Yet this is the view with which – in various degrees of longing, wistfulness, passion, and agonized confusion – the best of mankind’s youth start out in life. It is not even a view, for most of them, but a foggy, groping, undefined sense made of raw pain and incommunicable happiness. It is a sense of enormous expectation, the sense that one’s life is important, that great achievements are within one’s capacity, and that great things lie ahead.

It is not in the nature of man – nor of any living entity – to start out by giving up, by spitting in one’s own face and damning existence; that requires a process of corruption whose rapidity differs from man to man. Some give up at the first touch of pressure; some sell out; some run down by imperceptible degree and lose their fire, never knowing when or how they lost it. Then all of these vanish in the vast swamp of their elders who tell them persistently that maturity consists of abandoning one’s mind; security, of abandoning one’s values; practicality, of losing self-esteem. Yet a few hold on and move on, knowing that that fire is not to be betrayed, learning how to give it shape, purpose and reality. But whatever their future, at the dawn of their lives, men seek a noble vision of man’s nature and of life’s potential.

There are very few guideposts to find. The Fountainhead is one of them.

This is one of the cardinal reasons of The Fountainhead’s lasting appeal: it is a confirmation of the spirit of youth, proclaiming man’s glory, showing how much is possible.

It does not matter that only a few in each generation will grasp and achieve the full reality of man’s proper stature – and that the rest will betray it. It is those few that move the world and give life its meaning – and it is those few that I have always sought to address. The rest are no concern of mine; it is not me or The Fountainhead that they will betray: it is their own souls.

by Alan Wright on Dec 9, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

No matter what anyone says, I know I’m a Devils fan to the core. Proof is in this: I wore my Devils jersey to the Ducks-Blackhawks game the day after Thanksgiving. That was the day the Devils got shutout by the Islanders. I knew the Devils had lost. I knew it was the most embarrassing loss of the season, but I wore my Devils jersey proudly anyway. I even got a little respect from Ducks fans for wearing my jersey “during the good times AND the bad times”.

by njdss4 on Dec 9, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

Nailed it

Funny enough this is EXACTLYYY what i’ve been going through for the last couple months. Wearing my Devils Jersey in public was something i did all the time in past years because usually it invited discussion of the team. Now i refuse to wear a baseball hat in fear that the team gets mentioned and I have to grin and bear a conversation about the rebuilding of a team with a guy like kovalchuk. I know the whole page is devoted to the idea of In Lou We Trust, but right now I think we’re all hoping for a miracle from him. No question this is the team I root for til my dying day but to be a hardcore hockey fan I at least need playoff potential.. if I want to watch a team lose i’ll turn on the Mets, or Nets, or Jets.. god I need this team to start winning lmfao.

by xmarcs on Dec 9, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

I constantly swirl around between steps 1, 2, and 4…never staying on one too long before I move onto another. It’s become so bad that when the Devils score a goal, i don’t even cheer anymore, because they’ve caused me to have the attitude that it’s going to be wasted.

I think my current signature sums up my feelings pretty well.

So this is what it's like to be an Islanders fan...

by Marty 4 Prez on Dec 9, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Beg your pardon...

Sorry, but, your signature does not make sense to me. The Devils ain’t the Isles… so, I simply cannot understand how the feelings could be similar.

I am trying to nip such thinking in the bud because it smacks too much of despondency. If you will indulge me a comparison… (sorry for going on and on).

The Islanders are not likely to make the Playoffs this year. Assuming they do not… then they have only made the playoffs 6 times in the past 20 seasons (excluding the lock-out) if we include the period from 1990-91 until 2010-11. 30% of the past 20 seasons, the Isles have made the Playoffs.

Across 38 seasons, including this one, they’ve made the Playoffs 21 times 55% and have 4 Stanley Cups and 5 Conference Championships… all between 1980-1984.

Note: In 1993, the Isles lost in the Conference Final to Montreal, the Cup-winners. Other than that, it was pretty much first round knock-outs. For the Isles, only five playoffs series since 1993. All loses, for a record of 6-16.

The Devils are not likely to make the Playoffs this year. Assuming they do not… then they have made the playoffs 18 times in the past 20 seasons (excluding the lock-out) if we include the period from 1990-91 until 2010-11. 90% of the past 20 seasons… the Devs were in the Playoffs.

Across 28 seasons, including this one, the Devils have made the Playoffs 20 times, for 71% and have 3 Stanley Cups and 4 Conference Championships spread from 1994-2003.

Note: some assert that the lingering effects of the brutally illegal concussion Tie Domi gave Scott Niedermayer in 2000-2001 is the reason the Devs couldn’t pull a Stanley Cup win that year. Maybe. In any case, the Devs took it to the line against the Western Conference leaders, the Avalanche, who were simply a tremendous powerhouse.

In sum, the Devils’ “drop-off” has largely been confined to the post-lockout era, and even then, the Devils have made the Playoffs steadily… winning the Atlantic division 4 of the past 5 years.

By contrast, the Isles’ drop-off (no quotes necessary) has been spread across thirty years, and is more completely a franchise collapse.

What I think is familiar, though, is the Flyers 2006-07 season, where the team simply dropped off early and never recovered.
Other than that “blip” of a year, the Flyers have been consistently behind the Devs in the division… but typically getting through to the Playoffs. Actually, I think that 2006-07 Flyers season is instructive, and I have been thinking a lot about it lately for a Fan Post I’m considering writing.

Anyway… next year, the Devils will pull themselves back up as well!

by Alan Wright on Dec 9, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Errata

The Devils also made the Conference Finals in 1988. You might remember that series against Boston, it was rather memorable. Lawsuits, a judge issuing injunctions from his Bergen County living room on Sunday afternoon, this….

Anyhow, that’s 5 visits to the Conference finals between 1988-2003.

As for the Flyers of 2006-2007, I did a write-up of them almost a month ago with the lingering question being if this Devils team is that Flyers team…. and what it means for this club if they are. Apologies for the blatant self-promotion.

by acasser on Dec 9, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah!

Yes, I do remember the Schoenfeld-Koharski doughtnut debacle. Well, I mostly remember it from seeing replays, etc.

As to the 06-07 Flyers, I think your self-promotion is well-warranted. It’s a good article, and it’s better than what I could have put together.

If nothing else, it’s helps clarify that a “lost season,” as you put it, is an opportunity to rebuild, though it’s unfortunate it had to come to this because, as an organization, we blew by the warnings.

by Alan Wright on Dec 9, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh...

There was another visit to the Conference Finals. Maybe the most exciting ever. It’s still very frustrating to see it replayed on MSG, as smug and full of crap Howie Rose, John Davidson, and Stan Fischler are about how it went down. Friends from school were such bastards that week.

by Alan Wright on Dec 10, 2010 8:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Where does "Demand Changes" fit in?

Started following sports in 1982, and was quite used to the losses by the Devils and Giants. Though, both had generally great runs in the last 20 years, thus worth all of the frustrations. The two teams had made major changes to develop a system/identity to become winners, and it was rewarding to follow the growth of the teams. While the new coaches that brought the changes were not successful at first, you can tell they were building a system. (Coincidentally, both built great defensive systems). There may be many excuses for the Devils plight, but one thing that bothers me the most is the lack of a system/identity – and it has to be addressed. I just can’t see where this thing is going. Frankly, I am even willing to accept an identity of a team that shows up for the 2nd period, just give me something!

I am willing to accept the fact that this seasons is likely done, but I need to see changes made so that we can anticipate the development of some sort of system/identity.

by TaiDevils on Dec 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

You can demand changes in any of these stages. How you make the demands determines the stage.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The fan confidence poll always makes for a good chuckle.

by whatjusthappened on Dec 9, 2010 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

I fluctuate between 4 and 5B. No plans on hitting 5A. I’m not going anywhere.

Picked up a Parise jersey as my Christmas present and as preparation for next year!

by HouseRich on Dec 9, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Televised Games

I am using 5b to for watching DVRd games and 3 for watching live.

by Tom Stivali on Dec 9, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

the acceptance is the best way to go; it’s just the hardest to get to. i have some experience in that field: in addition to the devils, ive also been a fan of the st louis rams since they moved their (dont ask how that happened). ive followed them from before their super bowl win, during, after, and right through the laughingstock of the NFL days. there was a time that i couldnt bear to watch them, and i would just look at results and not even cringe; a (bad) loss was almost expected.

the lesson we should learn from this year is that playoffs arent for granted. no team gets in based on reputation. but it’s also important to remember that sports franchises are generally cyclical. what goes up must come down, and vis-a-versa. it may not me immediate, but this team will return to it’s former position.

EthanM

by EjM on Dec 9, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

5B

I think I have to be here cause I have accepted the loses and personally I watch the games and even if they lose it doesnt bother me as long as they looked semi-competitive. That cant be a good sign when a competitive loss is viewed as a win.

by Jacob Shepherd on Dec 9, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

Another point

5B is new territory for most of us, since the Devils have always been competitive. That said, I think I would prefer a disaster of a year than how the team lost to Carolina in 2009. I prefer the gradual acceptance over the devastation.

by Tom Stivali on Dec 9, 2010 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

and how!

I can’t go through that again. I was practically catatonic after that loss. I was sitting at the bar, and when it happened, a Rangers fan started laughing and cheering. I very nearly became violent. I would rather this become rebuild year that leads to several good years.

"If he were a hockey player, he’d pour some whiskey on it, nut up, and kick some ass."

by LangsForPres on Dec 9, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

SB Nation just gave me the digital middle finger.

Went to comment and what do I see @ the top of the page. An AMEX ad with the Rangers celebrating a home win. Got a serious case of stage 4 and it’s not even a game night.

Is there any way we can decline the penalty?It's not like we're going to score on the ensuing power play.

by statusquo on Dec 9, 2010 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

I have no control over the ads, sorry.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I didnt think so, especially after seeing that.

Is there any way we can decline the penalty?It's not like we're going to score on the ensuing power play.

by statusquo on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m definitely at 5b. At this point, i say “hey, there’s the small chance this team gets its crap together in time for a squeak into the playoffs” but as I said, that chance is small.

If the Devils are going to be bad this year, I hope they be so bad they warrant a lottery pick. Start new next year, draft a future franchise player (hopefully a center or a defenseman), and rebuild. It’ll be the highest pick we’ve had since the late 80’s i believe, and this team is all but guaranteed a good player in that position, maybe even a great one.

by skly27 on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like tomorrow night should be fun.....

Ottawa gave up 3 in the 3rd tonight, lost to the Rangers 5-3. Hope they don’t come out like the Habs did against us.

Is there any way we can decline the penalty?It's not like we're going to score on the ensuing power play.

by statusquo on Dec 9, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

stages 2, 4, and 5b

Between working at night and living in south jersey i don’t get to see many games. on game nights i can’t wait for the text message i get after each period with the score, this season unfortunately they tend to lead straight to stage 2. (usually after the 2nd period) which quickly leads to 4 when i get the final score. have been trying to come to terms with 5b for a couple of weeks now. as a mets fan you would think this would be easier for me since by july the only thing baseball holds for me is rooting against the yanks and phillies. but somehow i have to go through 2 and 4 to get to 5b one text at a time every game. the only good thing is i don’t have to deal with too many flyer fans yet, as most of them(in my area at least) are 5a’s and i won’t here too much from them till playoff time rolls around.

by cjboyd on Dec 10, 2010 4:38 AM EST reply actions  

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