Olympic Hockey Day 9 Open Thread: Three Important Games in Men's Ice Hockey
by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 11:32 AM EST
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PrintWelcome to the fifth of a regular feature throughout the Olympic break, an open thread to discuss all that is going on in the sport of hockey at the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. (Note: John or I make these the night before, scheduled to appear at 10 AM. I should be up for the late games, so hang out with me, won't you?.)
Just so you know, the Devils are stepping up online for additional coverage. The official site has a hub for the Olympics; complete with a schedule for both tournaments. The team site also has a blog written by team correspondent Scott Modrzynski called The Devil is in the Details. All posts are listed on the hub; just scroll down past the players and you'll see it on the side. Zach Parise is also providing a few words to Tom Gulitti's Fire & Ice every day, so check that out.
Yesterday's games didn't feature the big teams but they do have some sort of an impact on today's games, which are the last three in the men's ice hockey round robin part of the tourney. In Group A, Norway rose up and gave Switzerland a big scare. The two teams traded goals off and Switzerland needed overtime and a game winner from Romano Lemm win 5-4. Switzerland, with 3 points, now control third place in Group A. Belarus beat Germany 5-3 and have sewn up third place in Group C. The most interesting game was Slovakia-Latvia in Group B, not for the game itself, though. Slovakia routed Latvia 6-0 and now have 5 points in the group. Because of the result, Russia needs at least a point and a +1 in goal differential if they want to take second place in Group B.
Everyone goes to the playoffs in men's ice hockey, but only the top 4 teams get a bye. Fifth through twelfth match up for an extra qualification game. Yesterday decided eighth through twelfth; in order: Switzerland, Belarus, Norway, Germanay, Latvia. Today's games are not only games between big teams but big for positioning purposes. You'd rather be in fifth place and play Latvia rather than come in seventh and play a very confident Swiss team.
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Please use this post for all your comments, analysis, and thoughts about today's hockey games in Men's Ice Hockey games. Not the other Olympic sports, mind you.
3:00 PM EST/12:00 PM PST - Group B: Czech Republic vs. Russia (NBC)
7:45 PM EST/4:45 PM PST - Group A: Canada vs. United States (MSNBC)
12:00 AM EST/9:00 PM PST - Group C: Sweden vs. Finland (MSNBC)
Want to watch the games online and legally? For the Americans, NBC has streaming options. For the Canadians, CTV has streams. Thanks to user C.J.Richey121 for the NBC information and to user dchoubak about CTV. I've added my own thoughts on each game, after the jump.
3:00 PM EST/12:00 PM PST - Czech Republic vs. Russia (NBC) - A Czech win of any kind and they own Group C and a bye. Patrik Elias (2 G, 1 A) has been solid, but the story for the big C.R. has been Jaromir Jagr showing the world that he's still oozing talent (2 G, 1 A). Marek Zidlicky has more points than both with 4 assists, look for his involvement.
A Russian win in regulation (and only that), and they can take the group. For the Russians, no one has jumped out early to take a lead in scoring with 8 players with 2 points each ranging from Alexander Ovechkin (2 G) to Ilya Kovalchuk (1 G, 1 A) to the immortal Danis Zaripov (2 G). They'll need to put together a strong effort today.
Historically, games between the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia have been heated affairs like few in the realm of international hockey. Massive political changes and time have subsided some of the rivalry, of course. Still, for a game of this magnitude, don't expect either squad to be particularly nice to each other.
7:45 PM EST/4:45 PM PST - Canada vs. United States (MSNBC) - This is the big one for Group A. A win of any kind by the U.S. and they'll take the group. Canada needs a win over their own to win it. It's the team that beat Switzerland in regulation versus the team that needed a shootout to beat Switzerland. It's the underdog versus the favorites. It's going to be a big game. I wish it was on NBC, but that decision was made a while back and as Greg Wyshynski put it at Puck Daddy, it's a defensible position from a stand point of demographics.
For the Americans, a change of lines from the first two games is apparent. Per Kevin Allen's twitter, Zach Parise (2 A) and Jamie Langenbrunner (0 pts.) will be on a line centered by Paul Statsny. Perhaps some of the ZZ Pops chemistry will germinate on the ice as the Americans will need to get their offense in gear. Given that Canada's defense looked sloppy against Swiss-league players, perhaps that'll help too. Canada should be expected to come out to play with a purpose (perhaps anger too?), but we honestly don't know how they'll come out if the U.S. comes out hitting. Per Wyshynski's twitter, Mike Babcock of Canada said that Martin Brodeur will start in net.
Who will I support? America. Namely because I am an American. Plus, Brodeur already has a gold medal and I don't think it matters to the Devils how Brodeur does in the Olympics. If you're neutral, though, watch this anyway and see the dislikement/hatred show on the ice. It is a rivalry, of course. But not as big as the third game:
12:00 AM EST/9:00 PM PST - Group C: Sweden vs. Finland (MSNBC) - I wish, I wish, I wish this wasn't on at midnight because this will be an excellent game. A Scandinavian rivalry for control of Group C. Both teams have looked good early, albeit against weaker competition. Now we'll get a chance to see who really is superior and who will get a bye going into the playoffs.
Sweden's attack will be led by the expected bunch of the Sedin twins, Daniel Alfredsson, and Nicklas Backstrom. Surprisingly, Mattias Weinhandl (Isles fans will know who he is - maybe) has also got on the board with 2 assists whereas Swedish legend Peter Forsberg has yet to get on the scoresheet. For Finland, Mikko Koivu and ex-Leaf/current-Flame Niklas Hagman are both enjoying the Olympics; Koivu has 3 assists and Hagman has 2 goals and 2 assists. Also surprisingly, Jarkko Ruutu is not only this team but he has 2 goals.
If you want to see an excellent rivalry add another chapter to their long history, then set your DVRs and VCRs or even stay up late to watch this one take place. You won't regret it.
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Keys to the Game for USA by Ken Daneyko and Greg Wyshynski
Yep, there’s a video at Yahoo! Sports where this is mentioned.
So go look at it if you miss hearing Dano analyze hockey and want to see Wyshynski in a tie.
It auto-plays and the second video is about keys for Canada.
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Interesting Tidbit
The 3 games being played are rematches of the last 3 gold medal games. They are also being played in the same order. Czech/Russia was 1998, USA/Canada was 2002, and Sweden/Finland was 2006. Coincidence?
Coincidence? I. Think. SO!
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
MSNBC!!!
lol Thank you for this bit in this posting:
7:45 PM EST/4:45 PM PST – Canada vs. United States (MSNBC)
MSNBC!!!!
I was franticly looking at my TV guide so I could set my DVR for this and wasnt finding it on NBC or USA. Then I read on one of the Olympic TV Schedules that said the US vs Canada game was NOT on NBC. I was cursing for about 5 mins. Then I decided to come here and see if there was any Info about it.
Big sigh of Releif
Thank you Thank You Thank you
We have a Pierre McGuire Warning
Expect a chance of MONSTERS and yelps of loud annoyance.
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Game on
Czechs with the first shot of the game, easy stop for Russia.
Kovalchuk looks pumped early.
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Viktor Kozlov, Alexei Morosov
Wow, it’s a bunch of players I don’t want to see against/on NJ on the same line!
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Kalinin with a blast from the point amidst chaos….WIDE!
Russia is starting to take over on offense, the Czechs need possession.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Thomas Fleischmann nearly puts in a rebound all alone in front. Great movement by Erat and Kubina to make the play happen.
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Ovechkin stopped on the breakaway by Vokoun!
Russia needed that break, but it looks like C.R. are going to settle this down anyway
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And they did, Jagr’s unit hit back with a strong shift and C.R. followed that up with another one taking the puck right at Nabokov.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Who on Russia is looking good? Ovechkin. A breakaway earlier and just now he dangled past a defenseman to create a shot that wasn’t there. Vokoun stopped it, though.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
And there’s the first power play of the game. It’s for Russia: Cajanek caught tripping Kovalchuk.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Russia is 1 for 13 on power plays in these Olympics.
Yes. 1 for 13.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Mark it 1 for 14. Russia had a shot. Maybe 2?
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Jagr called for holding - a bad call
So bad, Pierre McGuire even said it as such.
Russia back on the PP.
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Evgeni Malkin scores!
Long shot by Gonchar – nothing, rebound by Ovechkin – nothing, loose puck kicked out wide, Vokoun caught in a bad place, and Malkin tucks it in far post
1-0 Russia
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the game has certainly evened out there. Tomas Fleischmann had a great chance but he shanked the shot wide.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Czech PP
Michalek tripped up by Korneev.
No, it had nothing at all to do with Kovalchuk sliding into Vokoun – that got no whistle (was he tripped?).
Ooooh, a long 5-on-3 here. Federov now sits.
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Just under 1:50 for the 5-on-3. Surely, the Czechs can score the Olympics’ first 5-on-3 in the men’s tourney?
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Great game.
I was gunna say terrible officiating but its evened out now with the 5-3. that call on jagr was ridiculous honestly
Plekanec scores on the 5-on-3!
The Czechs had trouble getting the puck in deep on that shift but it squeaks out for Plekanec and he puts it perfectly past Nabokov!
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Wow 1st shot in the last 10 minutes for the Czechs, and it’s a goal. Nice.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 3:38 PM EST reply actions
First period over
The Czech equalizer was fantastic. First shot for the Czechs in 10 minutes; and there wasn’t much Nabokov could do about that one. Brilliant shot by Plekanec.
The big CR will have some PP time to start the second, but not much. The game has been even otherwise in terms of physical play. Russia’s been more effective, but I feel possession has been evened up. The makings for a good game.
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One more thing
Elias got an assist on Plekanec’s goal.
He continues to lead the Devils forwards at the Olympics, now with 4.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
The USA can still lose and get a bye?
If Russia and Sweden lose? Tiebreaker after points is goals scored? Of course I don’t want this, but just wondering who to root for.
I have respect for most sports fans with 2 exceptions: NY Ranger fans who grew up in New Jersey, and Dallas Cowboy fans who can't name the capital of Texas.
The United States would need help for sure. I’m not certain of the scenarios but ultimately, the US needs to finish 4th. The tiebreaker after points isn’t goals scored but goal differential.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
How did Semin miss that?
I have respect for most sports fans with 2 exceptions: NY Ranger fans who grew up in New Jersey, and Dallas Cowboy fans who can't name the capital of Texas.
It was a backhand, but yeah that was a golden chance.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Russia is on the PP
And it’s a 5-forward group – it’s looking simpler but stronger. A change made puts Gonchar out there now.
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2 shots on net, 3 blocked, a few missed and that’s another non-conversion on the PP for Russia
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
The second period has been….even? The Czechs struggle to get any consistent offense and the Russians don’t look so sharp together either.
Chemistry is clearly missing among both teams.
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Russia breaks out, 2-1
On that note, Viktor Kozlov (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) breaks the tie with a turnaround shot.
The Czech defense knocks a puck loose, but no one is on Kozlov! Hejda wasn’t close enough and Kozlov saw Vokoun low and picked the right corner.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
My mistake, not Hejda, but Roman Polak.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Markov gets the puck all alone, 6 feet from the front of the net, and he looks for a pass instead of just taking a shot.
Poor decision there, but Russia is buzzing now.
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The Czechs nearly got one in on the scrum, but the whistle blew (lost sight of puck, admittedly) so no goal.
But the CR will get a PP anyway – a make up call?
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Czech PP looks composed, though a missing stick for one of the Russian PK players helped (Fedorov gave his stick to a d-man) on the right point between Kaberle and Elias.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. A 2-on-1 to kill off the PP and it’s totally wasted! There needed to be a shot, but Zinoviev and Radulov botched it.
Radulov takes a stupid penalty for charging. Sergei Zinoviev got hurt by Krejci, who was hit by Radulov.
So now it’s another CR PP to end this period
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Second period over
Viktor Kozlov (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO) snapped the deadlock in an otherwise even game. Though, Russia’s discipline and poor decision making at times is leaving the door open for an equalizer for the Czechs. Will they take it?
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Zinoviev is on the bench, but he didn’t look good skating prior to the period. Hmm. Wonder if he’ll be used for Russia?
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Russia kills CR’s power play to start it off, and Radulov somehow got a shot off after coming out of the box despite three Czechs back.
Ovechkin lurks, gets the puck alone, but Vokoun easily stops it.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ovy
Ovy created that goal. awesome.
I have respect for most sports fans with 2 exceptions: NY Ranger fans who grew up in New Jersey, and Dallas Cowboy fans who can't name the capital of Texas.
It was a great pass by Semin and off-puck movement by Malkin. The unit reacted perfectly after the big hit.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
WOW! Ovechkin JACKS UP Jagr in the neutral zone, the Russians attack, and Malkin slides home a cross-ice pass to score!
3-1 Russia and Ovechkin’s hit started it off!
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The Czechs look lost out there. In their own zone, Kubina especially looks tentative to clear it. Up front, the Czechs aren’t moving the puck well and Russia is just picking it up.
Semin fires a ROCKET from the half-boards, but Vokoun stops it perfectly. The Russians look pumped. Sure, there’s enough time for a comeback but as it is, they need SOMETHING to pick themselves up.
By the by, replays of this third goal show that Roman Polak’s positioning was terrible.
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This can be something
The Czechs are on the power play thanks to a Fedorov delay of game call (he cleared it over the glass in his own zone).
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
So how is the Czech power play looking? Not so great. The Russian PK is denying Czechs any shots, though the Czechs aren’t taking every open shot available either.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
So still down 3-1, the Czechs are mixing up their lines to find…something to consistently threatening the Russians. Elias-Michalek-Plekanck is the next mixture, but short of a quick strike, nothing much there.
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Question: Why isn’t the Czech coach thinking about putting Jagr and Elias together? Or Jagr and Plekanec/Michalek together?
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Michalek nearly makes something happen but he puts his backhand high and wide, a bad end to a great move to go around the defense.
This sprung Ovechkin-Semin for a 2-on-1 that Semin didn’t get a good shot on.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
3-2, Michalek scores for the big CR
SCORE! Michalek in the slot and that was BIG! 5:09 left and Jagr-Cajanek-Michalek got it done!
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TheCzechs are inspired now. Elias took a hard shot wide, this was followed up by a nice wrap that was stopped.
Russia NEEDS to hold on to win the group, a non-regulation win would still give the CR the group.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
After a long shift in Russia’s end, Kovalchuk gives Russia a breather with a little rush and a shot that unfortunately went wide.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
2 minutes left, will the Czechs be able to storm back? Russia’s doing a good job with possession now.
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Of course, the Czech passing has helped Russia with that.
Kovalchuk with a little break, but Vokoun stops that AND the rebound attempt. Big save!
Kalinin with a MASSIVE block to stop Krejci from just walking in there.
27.3 seconds left, extra man for the Czechs, this will be huge.
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Puck bounced out of play, 22.2 second left.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
12. 3 seconds left and Datsyuk adds the empty net goal from the neutral zone.
The Russians will take GROUP B. Slovakia to be in third and Czechs to be in second place.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Russia 4 - Czech Republic 2
Great hockey, lots of missed chances, Malkin with two goals, including the game winner set up by a slick cross-ice pass by Semin and a MASSIVE hit on Jagr by Ovechkin.
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With Russia win.
Slovakia will play Norway in qualification round. Russia still hasn’t locked up the bye though.
USA all the WAY!
Lets go boys. Work hard out there and make your country proud. Time to slay the dragon in his own den.
Go Team USA !!!
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 7:20 PM EST reply actions
It's getting closer to game time
The arena is rocking, the atmosphere is palatable, and all that’s left is for the game to start.
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USA rocking the Third Jersey's.
Much better than their Home/Away jerseys this Olympics.
Let’s Go USA!!!
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions
Tsk tsk
MSNBC…
is Brodeur in the net for Canada?
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
Yes, Brodeur is starting.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
It’s horrible that the 40 minute “preview” will have about 30 minutes of commercials.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I won't even be able to watch the commercials
I still have an antenna over the roof
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The Russia-CR game was one of the worst officiated games I think I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen some bad ones.
Watching the Russian team was like watching the Flyers: they committed so many penalties that the refs didn’t call all of them at the risk of seeming to be biased. Or something. I don’t know how else to explain how Ovechkin’s hit on Jagr wasn’t charging, among others.
Agreed.
Aren’t any hits to the head a penalty in international competition? I saw slight shoulder to head contact on the Jagr hit.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
It wasn’t a charge, nor was it dirty. Nasty, sure. Hard, definitely. But like Scott Stevens, Ovechkin jacked him up.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
But aren’t any hits to the head in international competition penalties?
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
I’d have to see it again, but on first viewing it sure looked like he jumped into him… and I’m not one to give Ovechkin the benefit of the doubt on things like that since that is pretty much his modus operandi.
There were several non-calls that were blatant, that was just one of them. The oddest call, though, was Jagr getting called for Datsyuk holding him.
We have a game
USA wins the opening faceoff.
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And there’s the first scoring chance by Parise-Statsny-Langenbrunner.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
GOAL OFF A DEFLECTION!!!!
41 seconds in AND IT’S JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMIE LANGENBRUNNER
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Replay shows NO!
It’s all Brian Rafalski! The deflection off Scott Niedermayer! Ex-Devils involved!
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Or was it Crosby. No, it WAS Crosby. I am so wrong without an HD feed (coughNBCcough)
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, Canada, you're defending sloppy
Another chance for the Americans, even Brodeur’s clearance just now was complacent. Wow.
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HUGE save by Miller on the Cros, big clearance by the D on the rebound.
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That was deflected in the slot.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Miller with the point blank save! Goalie interference on Getzlaf and every Canadian hates this call.
Really? HE HIT MILLER WITH HIS STICK. IN THE HEAD.
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Canada kills the first US power play.
Canada will now go on one of their own as Pavelski hits Getzlaf in the head with a stick.
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Callahan nearly got a shorty but he put the shot wide.
Canada set up a great shot, Staal was denied in front by Miller.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Penalty killed
Big kill by the Americans. Good work in the neutral zone too.
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Canada equalizes on a deflection and the crowd goes wild
It wasn’t a matter of time, and he deflects the shot perfectly to drop the high shot low.
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RAFALSKI HITS BACK
Brian Rafalski is hip, he’s cool, he’s over 35, his contract is $5 mil a year
AND HE IS MONEY
A RESPONSE THROUGH THE LANGENBRUNNIAN SCREEN.
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Nothing – NOTHING – Brodeur could do on that one, Langenbrunner was all up in his business.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Perfect timing for that goal. Keep the crowd out.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 8:02 PM EST reply actions
Rafalski just got bailed out on that bad pass, went right to Crosby but he didn’t shoot.
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Wow, Drury, you were alone and you decide to pass it cross-ice to no one for no reason. Please improve?
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
for those who want rafalski back
hey we have to get our young guys up on the Devils like Eckford and Corrente
Miller looking good for US and the D are manning up very well
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 8:07 PM EST reply actions
NJ
Bobby Ryan playing very well for the national team
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 8:09 PM EST reply actions
Ryan Miller is on form. Very much on form. US defense needs to be tighter though.
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I was thinking the same thing that Ed O just said - Forwards got trapped
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions
Wow, the American forecheck looked deadly just now. But then Canada hit back right away.
The whole game has been intense, intense, intense. I think a calmer game would benefit the Americans, but if they feed on emotion, then so be it. They need much more possession because Canada is starting to pick up the American’s poor clearances.
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I feel the American’s clearances aren’t good enough consistently and that will be their undoing at this rate. Langenbrunner tries to touch it out but the point gets it. Another missed shot and a clearance – blocked at the point. And so forth.
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It’s also a big reason why Canada’s outshooting the U.S. 19-6 in the first. Again, quality > quantity, and all that.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
That was a fast and physical period, don’t know that this level of play can continue for another 40 minutes
For the United States’ sake, they need to slow this game down and actually hold onto the puck. They’ve been fast, fast, fast, react, react, react. That doesn’t play well into anyone trying to add to or hold on to a lead.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Second period starts
Easy glove save by Brodeur and there’s some…disagreements after the whistle.
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BANG BANG BANG BANG
Don’t mind me, I’m giving words to Canada’s shots. Constant misses from long range.
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Canada equalizes on Miller's flank
Rebound off the initial shot and Heatley was right there for the very easy shot.
Time to respond, America.
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You know, as glad as I am with his goals, Brian Rafalski is leaving me unimpressed in his own zone.
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Wow, offense by the U.S. Now it’s back to being pinned back? I hope not.
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Crease violation
with the Devils recent inability to clear the screen out of the crease, we could use this rule in the NHL
I will give the US this, they may be getting swarmed but they aren’t giving up the most dangerous spaces so easily.
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hopefully teh 2nd 1/2 of this period will be in the Offensive zone -- Canada is getting all the chances
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 8:53 PM EST reply actions
Hey everyone, I finally noticed Mike Richards for the first time since last Tuesday!
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So the best thing that could happen
Is that it stays tied way into the shootout
And it goes into quintuple overtime shootout
and then we score (USA)
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
if it goes shootout how many times does Parise take it -
EVERYONE I say
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions
I don’t understand the question.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Miller
WOW. he is playing huge
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Brodeur with a helmet save. Wow. That struck him HARD.
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In the Olympics -- you can have the same player take the shot
not like the NHL where everyone has to go before you can go again
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions
Well, three rounds THEN you can re-use players.
Trainer is out for Canada. Three Canadian players collide with each other. Perry got the worst of it from Pronger Physics.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
forgive me for saying this but. Drury!!!!!!!
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions
WOW! WHAT THE HECK! DRURY DID DO SOMETHING THERE
Wow, wow, wow, a big mess in front and Brodeur and the defense couldn’t clear it! Drury with the garbage goal!
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even though he hasn’t gotten good reviews in this game… i miss Rafalski
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions
oh and 2 goals helps in his smart D
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Brodeur critics...
…shut up?
Brown denied TWICE on the breakaway.
Then Kane is denied on a second one later!
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Maybe it was Ryan. My apologies.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
It was. I’m so off, sorry, I’m caught in the moment.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Of course that’s a penalty. 2 for piggybacking holding Rafalski.
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Langerbrunner was just pushing Niedermayer
and telling him to get back to Jersey
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions
Second period over
31-19 Canada leaves in shots. Niedermayer hugs Johnson and throws him into the glass. Ouch.
America leading 3-2 and will start the third with a PP. Gotta score here.
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Nah, it was dumb. Surprised it wasn’t called.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
think we’re in his head
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Third period begun
And in progress, THANKS NBC
Missed the first 15 seconds or so.
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PP killed by Canada but America is still pressing.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Crosby tagged with a high sticking call. Follow through of the stick hits Orpik in the face. Fair call.
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So far, the US is forcing too much with the puck.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
NBC sucks
Goal here and Canada will be giving up more odd man rushes as D men will move in to keep puck in Offenisve Zone
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions
After a LONG shift for them to touch it. No shot on that extra man chance. Big slash on the stick. Perry to feel shame.
SCORE ON THIS PP, PLEASE. I swear, all of these Olympic PPs are too familiar.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
All these PPs for the US is giving them time to add to the lead and all so taking time off the clock adding to pressure from the fans on Team Canada
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions
POWER PLAY GOAL THROUGH THE TRAFFIC!!!!
It finally converts and could it be? COULD IT BE RAFALSKI?
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GOAL!!!!
Looks who’s in front of Marty. Langenbrunner!!!!
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions
WOW! Rick Nash nearly got an empty netter but he was DENIED.
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Did anyone else see Parise jump up and down like a little kid after the goal?
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 9:35 PM EST reply actions
Power play for Canada. 9:11 left in the game and Kane will sit for tripping Nash.
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have to kill the power play
I wonder if Canada will replace Marty – for the extra game
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions
Must-kill situation here. Canada might? Depends on the match-up.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
well most likely a Germany type team will be the first match up
it will be an easy team – but they will have to play an extra game – which could hurt
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Marty: 4 goals on 21 shots…Not very good but I don’t see Luongo doing any better.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Come on, man, three of them were either through screens or deflections.
Which reminds me, why isn’t Canada trying to screen Miller.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
No no, I agree with you. Hence why I said I don’t see Luongo doing any better.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Another HUGE kill needed
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions
That’s a pretty weak call on Erik Johnson there. Marleau fell and it’s called a trip.
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i’m getting heart palpitations reminiscent of the dual-shutout Devils-Rags game a few weeks ago.
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions
Headline for the papers
Its Miller Time
ryan miller steals game
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions
4 minutes left DEATH OR GLORY AMERICA
RYAN MILLER AND THE D WAS DESPERATE BUT THEY DENY CANADA THRICE ON A BIG CHANCE.
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Kessler made a huge save on the 2nd shot. Great play and Great save by Miller
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 9:47 PM EST reply actions
Just near the end of the kill....
…and Canada scores off a re-direction to beat Miller. Crosby with the tap-in
4-3 USA. 3:09 left.
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full throttle from here on out
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 9:48 PM EST reply actions
Bad Call
lets Canada back into game
kill teh last 3 minutes
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:48 PM EST reply actions
This is going to be crazy. It’s not that the US wants to sit back, but they’ll be pinned back as Canada is going to throw EVERYTHING forward here.
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OFFSIDE CANADA.
Huge for the US, they can take a breath. Brodeur’s out, Canada is throwing everything forward.
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RYAN KESLER RYAN KESLER RYAN KESLER!
Parise off the boards and KESLER DIVES AT IT AND HIS HUSTLE ICES THE GAME!
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Kessler tells his fans in Vancouver to cry for Canada
Kessler GREAT GOAL
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions
AMERICA SWEEPS GROUP A!
Norway? NO PROBLEM
Switzerland? SWISH!
Canada? CAN AND DID!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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This game has two major lessons
1) Screening goalies can and will help teams score goals.
2) A ton of shots on net is desirable but missing the net over and over and over hurts just as much despite the SOGs.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Man of the Match: RYAN MILLER. He was massive
Incredibly honorable mention: BRIAN RAFALSKI. He doesn’t score a lot of goals, only 4 multi goal games in 750 NHL games; but he was FANTASTIC tonight, firing shots through Jamie Langenbrunner’s screens.
Langenbrunner gets an unsung hero for said screens.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
could care less about marty and this loss
I care when marty is in net for Jersey
Great win by the US tonight
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 9:58 PM EST reply actions
Proud of our boys!
Good job USA. Long way to go before any color medal so I hope they can keep their focus.
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions
Well if the US wins the next game they will play for a medal
because win again and they are in the semis
by Team First Devils on Feb 21, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions
interesting to see how the canadian media reacts to this
i don’t think marty played poorly, but he certainly could’ve played better. it’ll be interesting to see if he gets scapegoated on this one, and how many people start calling for luongo
the Vancouver media will certainly hammer him
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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 21, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
45-26 Canada led in shots.
Too bad the IIHF doesn’t record missed shots, I would think it’d be heavily in Canada’s favor too. So many missed shots!
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A-freaking-mazing game.
And the good guys won. Huzzah!
I expect the Marty bashing has already begun :(
But of course, he’s a fine scapegoat for Canada missing so many shots on net and not cashing in on glorious opportunities.
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by John Fischer on Feb 21, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
LANGENBRUNNER 1-1-2 2SOG +2 19:00 TOI
PARISE 0-1-1 2SOG +3 17:32 TOI
Both lead all forwards in TOI.
Great Job USA, Zach, and Jamie!!!
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions
USA Clinches a Top 2 Seed in Playoff Round
with 9 points and a +9 Goal Differential.
If Finland wins in regulation, USA will get the 2 Seed. Finland has a +9 GD as of now.
If Sweden wins in regulation, they will need to win by 6 goals to clinch the 1 Seed.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 21, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions
1 seed would be great cause than we would play the winner of Switzerland-Belarus.
2 seed would play winner of Slovakia-Norway.
by C.J. Richey on Feb 21, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Fun Fact
Canada (should be) slotted to play Germany next. The winner of that game will face….Russia.
The US win guarantees that one of them will NOT medal in these Olympics.
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Sweden 1 - Finland 0
Eriksson scores for Sweden on a 5-3.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 22, 2010 12:18 AM EST reply actions
Was at a 60 USA - 40 Canada bar
Was in NYC at a bar that was 60% Americans and 40% Canadians from my hockey league. Hell, there was even a (Canadian) celebrity there.
Biggest thing I got from talking to the Canadians after the game is how they were very disappointed with Marty tonight and believe Luongo will be in goal for Canada’s next game. Brodeur was definitely outplayed by Miller. . . .
I have respect for most sports fans with 2 exceptions: NY Ranger fans who grew up in New Jersey, and Dallas Cowboy fans who can't name the capital of Texas.
Do they really think Luongo could have stopped those goals? 3 were deflections, 2 off their own men. That surprises me. I do agree that Luongo will be in goal. It’s against Germany I think, and to play 3 games in 4 days is tough for anyone. No reason not to split time.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 22, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
that was probably broduers last game for canada
he played good,that clearing attempt he shot right to rafalski was the only big mistake,in a tournament like this the goaltending needs to be epic,there is no other way to win.broduer was average.
by Imperator_Celtic on Feb 22, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think if Marty gets another game, it will be against Germany as Babcock will probably want Luongo in for Russia. More likely Marty will be the scapegoat and Luongo will get both starts.
Those that wanted Marty rested are going to get their wish. Public outcry for this one is (already) going to be too much for the Canadian coaching staff to bear.
My hope is that Marty takes the disappointment and downtime to refocus, re-energize and come back to the Devils driven and motivated to prove the doubters and haters wrong.
I'm glad Marty will be resting
He’ll get to prove to the Canadian public when he lifts another Stanley Cup
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Here was a post
That someone wrote on wikipedia that I’m assuming got deleted:
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Canada is POed.
That is pretty funny though.
by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 22, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn’t catch the entire game but a little more than half of it. Based on what I saw, however, Ryan Miller absolutely dominatined in his role as goaltender for the United States. What an incredible and stunning performance by him. Being a Devils fan, I’m as big of a Marty fan as anyone. But Miller was clearly the more impressive goaltender overall last night. Some of the saves he made in the third period left my jaw hanging open. I sure as heck do not blame Canada’s loss on Marty, but I can easily see many Canadians pointing their fingers at him. Nonetheless, what a great win by the United States. Langenbrunner with the game winner….sweet.
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Luongo should be in net for Canada.
The Canadian public is furious over the performance of Marty Brodeur. They are calling for Luongo who should have never been pulled after his opening game shutout. Some will argue it was not Martys fault but we have been hearing this for over a month now with 2 different teams. Time to make the switch..
Donald Vasquez
And I’m sure that will be the case, but in all fairness, Luongo’s shutout performance was a 15 save performance against a Norway team that’s managed only 5 goals in 3 their games.
Good point Elesias. Luongo will undoubtedly be Canada’s goaltender for their next game but in no way will that decision be justified by either’s performance thus far in the olympics. It will be clearly an emotional reaction to last night’s results.
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Luongo will likely be in goal but nobody was ragging on Marty after game 2 shutdown in overtime and in the shootout. He stoned the Swiss 4 times. None were misses by the shooter, all 4 were stops by Marty. Short memory for all those Brodeur detractors.
As Long As
Marty doesn’t give up 2 goals in less than 2 mins again (Carolina game, and about 4 times this year) I think I’ll be happy…otherwise, I’ll get tired of people making up excuses for him.
by Drew95.00.03 on Feb 22, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
The greatest of all time, without a doubt. However…..Greats get old, and inconsistent.
by Drew95.00.03 on Feb 22, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
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