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Martin Brodeur Earns a Point for New Jersey Devils; Not Enough from Other Devils as Boston Bruins Win in OT, 1-0

I must admit, I was very angry coming out of the Rock for this one.  I've calmed down a bit after talking/venting out the problems I had with tonight's game with others on the train platform and elsewhere.  Still, I'm not at all happy with the New Jersey Devils' performance against the Boston Bruins tonight.   If you're a Devils fan, you shouldn't be either.

Let me get the headline out of the way. When I say that Martin Brodeur earned the Devils a point tonight, I mean it. I am not being glib or snarky.  Martin Brodeur was the only Devil who actually showed up on the ice, did his job, and had a fantastic night.  He, and he alone, was the reason why Boston was held scoreless on 30 shots in regulation. Martin Brodeur didn't panic when the guys in front of him would make a shallow clearance, leading to yet another Boston attack. Martin Brodeur didn't wilt when Boston would crash the net.  Martin Brodeur kept calm and made save after save.  He had zero chance on the rebound that Patrice Bergeron scored with 18.3 seconds left in the game.  Zero.

I feel absolutely miserable for Brodeur because he gave his team a shutout-worthy performance, and his team gave him absolutely nothing in return.

Full credit to Boston for their win.  They clearly deserved to win. Tuukka Rask played very well with what few shots he faced.  Zdeno Chara led a blueline who defended very well against the Devils' offense - who played so poorly that to call it a pop-gun attack would be an insult to pop-guns.   Rather than get frustrated at not beating Brodeur despite peppering him with pucks, the Bruins' offense kept going with strong play along the point for possession (Chara, who also had 5 shots on net) and actually adjusting on the ice as to what the Devils were doing.  They got the break very late in the game to win it in overtime. 

Is losing games by way of giving up a goal in the last minute of a game a trend for the Devils? No, not this season. This is only the third time it's happened. But to come after such a frustrating game to watch was just maddening.  I get the anger.  I felt it.  I was there.  The real disappointment comes with knowing the following: Even if Patrice Bergeron didn't get that rebound attempt and the game went to a shootout, then what?  Should Boston win the shootout and all we'd happy about is that at least Brodeur got a shutout out of the game.  Should New Jersey win said shootout, then all that would mean is that the Devils stole an extra point. 

Neither situation - what happened and what could have been - justifies how terrible the Devils skaters were tonight.  I'll go into details about that after the jump.  If you'd like the stats to tonight's game, please go to NHL.com for their recap.  For the Boston perspective, please visit Stanley Cup of Chowder for their recap.

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Let's cut right to the chase. The Devils' offense was putrid tonight.  Outshot 11-6 in the first period, where upon some of those 6 shots weren't bad and the Devils had a few decent shifts. Still, the Bruins made much more happen with their possession and pinned the Devils back in their own end more of a few times.  In fact, on some of those shifts, the Devils wouldn't be able to clear the puck - only making the situation harder on themselves.  But Brodeur made all the saves, rebounds were generally cleaned up, and so the first ended with no goals.

One would think that the team-talk at intermission would focus on these problems and the coaching staff along with the players' leadership would actually address these problems.   One would expect adjustments to be made.  During the first period, the puck was noticeably bouncing over sticks.  OK, the passing wasn't sharp but that suggests that the ice isn't good.   During the first period, Boston got away with a few calls - most notably Tuukka Rask hauling down Dean McAmmond to prevent him from scoring a gift off a botched play by Rask behind the net. It was a Hextall-tastic move by Rask; and it got no whistle.  Surely, the players would think that the refs not blowing their whistles would lead to thinking that it would be pointless to try and draw some calls. You would think adjustments would be made, right?

Wrong!  The second period came along and the Devils just got worse.  It's like they thought about the first period performance and actually did absolutely nothing different as a result of it.   The hideous hockey played by the Devils served only to deaden a large crowd at the Rock.  It took the home team close to half the period to get a shot on net.   The Bruins pinned them back that much early on that if it wasn't for some key defensive plays and Brodeur, the Bruins could have scored a couple goals.  Perhaps they should have, they were clearly dominating possession.  Helped out, of course, by New Jersey with poor dump-in attempts, passes - both long and short - going awry, and clearances either not getting out of the zone or getting over the blueline and going right to a Boston defender.

Eventually, the Devils managed to get 5 shots on net (Boston put 9 on net, so we're at 20-11 at this point), most of which that didn't really bother Rask all that much.  Somehow, the game was at 0-0 and I just felt concerned in the stands.  OK, Boston's shot selection was the greatest but at least they were getting shots.  The Devils weren't even attempting to get quantity, much less quality on net.  Brodeur played very well and he was getting very little offense in response.

The third period saw some improvement in that regard.  Instead of just 11 shots after 40 minutes, they put up 7 in the last 20.  The refs actually caught a Bruin hooking, something Boston was doing plenty of but not getting caught for some reason.  The Devils only managed two shots on the ensuing power play, but at least there was some actual offensive penetration, some actual positive possession, and something the Devils could - but didn't - build upon.  They were on their way on a second shortly thereafter before Zach Parise was tagged with an interference call that was questionable; but they looked decent on 4-on-4.

Meanwhile, you know how I mentioned that the ice was poor and the refs weren't calling much on the ice? Well, it continued.  Short of these calls in the third, the refs were still lettting the players get away with a lot and the ice quality deteroriated.  Yet, the Devils still tried to go in deep to get calls.  They honestly expected a whistle after Patrik Elias got tripped up before overtime or while Kovalchuk was being hugged by a Bruin in overtime prior to their goal, after whistling very little all game. Nearly every line except for the fourth line still attempted cross-ice and other fancy passes to get forward as if the ice was perfect. It wasn't and it only helped pucks go astray or make it easier a Bruin make a stop throughout the game.   I bring up the ice and refs as issues because the root behind those issues was that the Devils did not adjust at all during the game to account for what was going on.   That's on the coaches for not picking it up and moreso on the players who are actually out there on the ice and not even picking up on it!   Awful! Just awful!

Eventually, Boston figured all of this out and put a stop to it immediately on defense.  It felt like in the third period that New Jersey attempted to do the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.   Yes, they shot the puck a little more on net.  Yes, they weren't pinned back as often in their own end.  Yes, David Clarkson hit the crossbar in the third period, but that was an abberation more than anything else.   It was still very frustrating hockey to witness.  Had they make some adjustments, move a few players around (this Lemaire actually did later in the game, thankfully moving Vladimir Zharkov off of the second line), and played a simpler game with respect to puck movement and shot selection, then perhaps they could have came far closer to scoring.

But they didn't.  In overtime, the offense actually showed some vigor but it was literally too little for Rask and Bruins fans to be terribly concerned with.   In the long term, I'm not concerned about how Bergeron scored so late in overtime. I'm worried about how this team makes adjustments - it shows a lack of awareness and a lot of lost opportunities.  Boston was the better team tonight because they understood what they needed to do and just got frustrated by a great performance by Brodeur right up until the end.  Instead, we saw a total of 34 shots for Boston, only 20 for New Jersey, and the Bruins winning with the only break of the night - generated off a strong shot that the defense couldn't recover.

Who among the skaters had a poor night? A far shorter list would include the skaters who did somewhat well: Mike Mottau who earned his 26:57 tonight; Dainius Zubrus, who really should be on the second line instead of Zharkov - he played with some sense tonight; and Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond, whose checks gave the fans a rare reason to cheer - especially in the second period. Maybe, if you want to stretch your definition of "decent" Ilya Kovalchuk because he actually used his skills to go at the defense, which drew excitement as it wasn't an ineffective dump-in.  But I didn't think Kovalchuk did all that much or all that well in what little he did - like the rest of the forwards. Moreover, Mottau, Zubrus, and Leblond didn't make the difference tonight - they just didn't look particularly bad.  Per this postgame post by Lemaire, Lemaire only praised

Still, it's far more than I can say for Paul Martin, who just had the puck bounce off him way more often than usual and struggled to get good clearances; Zach Parise who's had a very quiet game for someone who played over 20 minutes; or David Clarkson who's only mark on the game was that shot that hit the cross bar.  Those three stuck out as being particularly poor tonight from my seat.  Again, I re-state that the only Devil to have had a great night was Martin Brodeur, who was let down.

With six games left remaining in the season, now's the time for the Devils to get it together.  This performance by Devils not named Brodeur was, is, and will be inexcusable.  Jacques Lemaire will have the team practice tomorrow, per this post game post by Tom Gulitti.  After all, they got a day off on Monday after bad game on Sunday, I think this team needs to be worked hard instead of coddled at this point.  Messages need to be sent and received fast.

I'd like to reiterate my major point: Don't be mad at the fact that Boston won with less than 20 seconds left;  don't be mad that the refs let Boston get away with a lot and made some iffy calls, as stated by the Devils in this post game post by Gulitti.   Be mad that the Devils played like garbage, let down their all-world goaltender who gave them a shot to win this game, and that they saw first-hand how the game was developing and the players and coaches did nothing productive in response.

They could have overcame the reffing problems and the ice being bad and at least challenge Rask to be great, among all other things.   But they didn't.  And those lack of adjustments will doom the Devils far more in the future than an event that has happened in exactly three games so far this season.

Below are the highlights from NHL.com.  By highlights, I mean a lot of Brodeur saves and Bergeron's goal.  Please leave all your thoughts on tonight's game in the comments.  Thanks for reading.

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I removed an original sentence from the front section because it made no sense in context; added a direct link to SCoC’s recap; and removed an unnecessary space.

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by John Fischer on Mar 30, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

When was the last time the Devils won three straight games?

This was a terrible game to watch, and even it was ever worse for the Devils as a team. This is two basically “no show” or “phone it in” performances from the Devils. I dont think you want to see too many of those types bunched together like we have going into the playoffs. Frankly, it is reminding me of last year when the team lost 6 straight (I believe) over a span from end of March to early April.

Obviously, the whole team (excluding Marty) played poorly and so blame cannot go to a single player. However, I will say that the puck that eventually scored the winner for Boston was brought into the Devils zone following a rather erratic and ill-advised play by Kovalchuk. He attempted to errantly bring the puck up ice single handedly, attempted go go past four bruins on his own, and in fact wound up on his ass without the puck all while taking out another one of his teammates (elias i believe). Those who watched the game will know that it was following this play by kovy that boston took in the zone and got the winner. I dont want to over emphasize this, but Chico has made a point of it, and I think he is correct: there are times when Kovy tries to do WAY to much on his own, and usually, that too much is bringing the puck up the ice on his own. In the playoffs you cannot have the kind of play that precipated the boston goal from kovy. Way too often in winds up in a turn over or a break the other way.

Finally, thought the Devils had a good stretch, I am not sure we ever really broke out of the slump. My question would be when did we last win three games in a row? I know we have won two in a row of late, but I cant of the top of my head remember winning three in a row. My offhand guess would be it is sometime in early Jan that we won three straight. I hope we can fix that in these last two weeks.

by max16s on Mar 31, 2010 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Kovy

Unfortunately, the rest of the team is putting Kovy in a position where he HAS to do everything himself and sometimes stuff happens and doesn’t work out so well.

All the “Brodeur is Old” and “He’s Lost His Touch” tools need to move along. he did everything he could to give the team a chance to win this game and they just didn’t give him any help. A handful of scoring chances isn’t going to win you a game against a team that wants to win. And it sure as hell isn’t going to get a team past the first round of the playoffs.

And I’m with Elias on this one. Not only did a BS call give Boston a PP at the end of the game, Kovy was damn near getting Prison Loved in the OT and there was no call. To name the ones that could have obviously meant the game.

6 games left. 6 games before the playoffs start. 8 points. The team needs to manage 8 points from those 6 games to get some kind of momentum heading into the first round. How’s about they stop worrying about how the Pens are doing, stop caring about who the first round opponent is, stop complaining that they’re tired and play the game like they want it?

by Murdoc on Mar 31, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

This Jekyll and Hyde thing is getting old. I don’t understand how this team can play so well for a week then look like they did the last 2 games. I don’t know if I can take another 1st round exit so hopefully they will get it together.

by C.J. Richey on Mar 31, 2010 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

This is not the way I want the team going into the playoffs. Do they even care?

You're Next!

by thatguy011071 on Mar 31, 2010 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

They've been shutout too much to win in the 1st Round

Heres the shutout trend. It doesn’t bode well.

2009-10 – shutout 7 times (all since January – including Rangers shootout win).
2008-09 shutout 7 times – 1st Round exit
2007-08 shutout 11 times- 1st Round exit
2006-07 shutout 2 times – 2nd Round exit
2005-06 shutout 4 times – 2nd Round exit
2003-04 shutout 3 times – 1st Round exit
2002-03 shutout 2 times – WON Stanley Cup

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by Cherno77 on Mar 31, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Senators

If the likely opponent is the Senators (the Penguins don’t seem to be losing at home) – then it does make me nervous after they’ve won 5 in a row.

This makes the game-in-hand huge. If they can beat Chicago, they’re going to their personal house of horrors in Carolina and a back-to-back travel game. If they can win that game, then I’ll have some confidence.

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by Cherno77 on Mar 31, 2010 6:25 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s the Senators. If there’s a team that’s more prone to meltdowns, it’s them. They’re goaltending is highly inconsistent (Elliot’s been either great or average at times), and their offense is either unstoppable or as futile as the Devils offense was tonight

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 31, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Senators are the premier Jekyll and Hyde team. Yes, they’ve won 5 in a row, but before that they’d lost 5 in a row. Before that they rattled off 11 straight wins, right after another 5 game losing streak.

I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’. Perspective and all…

At this point, I’m almost hoping the Devils get the fourth seed and have to face a team like Ottawa or Montreal.

by elesias on Mar 31, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, you totally called it

From Chere: “I gave them a day off yesterday. A day off is to rest and get prepared for the next game,” Lemaire said. “They were supposed to get a day off tomorrow, but they’ll be on the ice.”

which is more or less what you said here

If Andrew Peters ever plays again it will be too soon.

by LangsForPres on Mar 31, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I hated the loss, but wasn’t really angry with the team for their play. It ended up being a game where the first big mistake would be the only mistake, and they played well enough to get through 64 minutes without making a fatal mistake.

I believe that if Martin hadn’t lost his stick on that final play, the game was going to a shootout. Sure, the offense struggled a bit, but Boston is a good defensive team and it was pretty obvious that they were focused on it throughout the game, so just about any team would have struggled to break through.

Perhaps entirely unrelated and uninteresting, but I’ll include it all the same:

Last 10 games of the “elite” (by elite, I mean division leaders and/or teams the vast majority consider to be true contenders) teams around the NHL:

  • Devils 4-3-3 (11 points of 20)
  • Capitals 5-2-3 (13 points)
  • Penguins 4-3-3 (11 points)
  • Sabres 6-3-1 (13 points)
  • Sharks 4-5-1 (9 points)
  • Blackhawks 3-5-2 (8 points)
  • Coyotes (can’t believe I just typed that) 7-2-1 (15 points)
  • Canucks 5-3-2 (12 points)

Point being, of course, that everyone is struggling right now (outside of Phoenix and Detroit, anyway). Points are hard to come by because the bottom teams are either fighting for their playoff lives or else relishing the role of spoiler/playing for their jobs.

To me, though the record hasn’t been as strong as we’d like it, there are still good things to be happy about: They’re still in the division race; it’s not like Pittsburgh has run away with anything either. The defense that was shaky and showing signs of being tired and mistake prone has tightened up and been playing pretty well. Marty has refound his game and confidence. Kovalchuk (though sometimes trying to do a little too much by himself) appears to have bought into the team system and is still producing at a pretty good clip.

Now, I’m not as confident as I was a few months ago when they looked all but unbeatable, but I think this team has the ingredients to put together a good run.

by elesias on Mar 31, 2010 8:15 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Thanks for the perspective

Seriously, thank you for the bigger picture on the “elite.” Definitely puts it in a bit more perspective. I think many of us are still on the disappointed side of last night’s loss, and there’s a certain calming effect to such blatant logic.

I’m standing by my hope (and the team’s need) for no less than 8 points out of the last 6 games. That momentum is going to be needed to get past some very talented teams, and some very average teams playing very well right now.

by Murdoc on Mar 31, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Penguins

are 4-1-3 if you don’t count the Devils, their Achilles’ Heel. But then again, it’s just a case of me using stats that help the argument. The Pens do seem to get points against any team not named New Jersey. And that’s what concerns me. But your post does add a good “big picture” perspective.

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by Cherno77 on Mar 31, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

 agree with the above statment,i wish the devils would have won this game and they almost did but teams in the position of the bruins are very very tough.

by Imperator_Celtic on Mar 31, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This deserves a rec for importance. Teams everyone claims are better than the Devils (like the Hawks, Sharks and Pens) are on par with us right now. The record could be better and some of those OTLs should be W’s.

That and who would’ve expected the Coyotes to be outplaying the Caps, Pens, Sharks and Hawks this late in the season?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 31, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fully agreed.

Excellent comment elesias.

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by John Fischer on Mar 31, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul Martin

Yes his stick got knocked out of his hands what are you going to do? But he gave up, here is a concept with twenty seconds left, TAKE A PENALTY, tackle him, hold him, or maybe hit him and knock him off the puck, or perhaps try to get in front of him and block the shot. At least try to delay so Brodeur can have a chance at the shot. If you take a penalty maybe there is 10 seconds for Boston to do anything before a shootout, that option is much better than Martin watch Bergeron put it in the open net. I can’t wait for him to add on to his career minus 10 in the playoffs and it looks like another one and done.

by Padraic Jenkins on Mar 31, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

I really didn’t understand Martin there, just throwing his hands up like, “oh, man! Nothing I can do, I don’t have a stick.” He was in decent defensive position, he just had knock him off the puck. What’s the worst that can happen? You kill off 20 seconds of 5v4. Its better than watching Bergeron walk the puck over the goal line.

If Andrew Peters ever plays again it will be too soon.

by LangsForPres on Mar 31, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is NO WAY you can blame Martin for that goal. I don’t know how you expect him to take a penalty there? He loses his stick, and is still able to match up with Bergeron as Recchi receives the puck and skates parallel with the blue line. Martin doesn’t see Recchi take the shot because he is facing Bergeron, who does see the shot. Do you expect him to draw a penalty there when the puck is no where in sight? The puck rebounded right to him with an open net, and he takes a quick snap shot. Martin had no chance to take a penalty with how quick everything happened.

It’s extremely difficult to cover a player with no stick, especially for a defensemen. It was a bang-bang play. The defense played very well the entire game cleaning up rebounds (with sticks mind you) and giving Marty the help he needed. It was the offense that failed last night, not the defense. If that goal was 1 out of 4 or 5 of the night no one would be saying a thing. Marty and the defense need goal support.

by Matthew Ventolo on Mar 31, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do realize you’re asking a player to blatantly cheat, right? i’m all for taking a penalty if you have to but if Martin had just skated up and tackled Bergeron from behind he could be looking at a suspension. Maybe if Martin were on the crease facing him he could have wrapped him up or shoved him off balance, but from behind? Martin’s a disciplined player who doesn’t take many penalties – asking him to go NFL-Blitz on a guy in a split second is a bit much.

If that play happened any time other than OT and were anything other than a GWG, we all would’ve shaken it off and said ‘tough break.’ Let’s not lose our minds given the circumstances surrounding this particular bad break.

by richer44 on Mar 31, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You show me

the last time a player got suspended for a holding penalty. No way is it going to happen. Watch the replay again. Martin had almost a second to react. He’s facing the net at 19.6 left. Seeing the puck coming out to Bergeron, who was just beyond Martin’s hand which the arm wasn’t fully extended. All he needed to do was grab enough of Bergeron to keep him from getting off a clean shot. Players hold all the time. Players take penalties to prevent clear goals an awful lot. Is it cheating? Maybe, but it is a part of the game in the rest of any similar situations. And there’s no way you can equate it to a non-OT, non-GWG, because it was. Changing the situation where something happens to try to draw a comparison is completely pointless. Not to pull in politics, but that’s like saying if McCain won the election, 9/11 would never have happened. Completely irrelevant.

Go Jets
Go Devils

by FrankG929 on Apr 1, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I’m saying is that Martin was in a tough spot and had little time to react to a bang-bang play in front of the net, much less make the rather nuanced decision to take a penalty to save a goal he didn’t know was coming. If he wraps up Bergeron, of course it’s a holding minor. But if he tackles the guy to the ice, from behind, without a stick – as some people have suggested – he risks something worse. Even thinking through the consequences of that puts the puck in the back of the net.

AND just because the consequences of that particular play resulted in an OT loss DOESN’T make the play any less of a bad break. The degree of crazy some of us have gone to in the aftermath, in my opinion, is overblown. My point is that if the goal weren’t a GWG none of us would be freaking out about it. The circumstances don’t change the goal, just our reaction – and it shouldn’t.

by richer44 on Apr 1, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Devils Team

Making excuses for the lack of effort or the refs in last night game is a waste of tiem. I am afraid that this is the type of performance we can expect to see in the play-offs. How can this team with so many gifted offensive players continued to lose & get shut out this late in the season ? Must be some undercurrent between the players & JL.

by Old Puck 1 on Mar 31, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Man, was there a registry drive for boo-birds or something? Seems there is suddenly a slew of new posters who all have nothing to add except how awful the team is and how the playoffs are going to be a big disappointment.

I’m no eternal optimist, but some of you guys sure make me feel like one.

by elesias on Mar 31, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

My shutout post says it all

I am absolutely a pessimist now. See my shutout post. The only thing that may get me excited is if they sweep the Chicago-Carolina weekend. It’s one of the toughest they’ve had all year in my opinion and it will change this pendulum. They could lose them but if Pittsburgh and Buffalo keep losing, then it will soften this feeling, somewhat.

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by Cherno77 on Mar 31, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an interesting coincidence, but nothing more. Things like that are the reason I give many statistics a wide berth and don’t put a lot of weight behind the ones that go back over years.

Like, say, when the Devils play a team like St. Louis and they mention that Marty is (making up a stat here) 6-2-3 against them since 199×. Who cares? None of those previous games have any bearing on the current one. It’s useless, unimportant information good only for trivia questions or bragging to friends who might be fans of St. Louis.

Just like the shutout totals of past years compared to their playoff results mean very little. In 03-04 they were only shut out 3 times and didn’t make it through the first round. Likewise in 98-99. Both of those would contradict your assertion.

There is no correlation between the two things.

by elesias on Mar 31, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well. . .

I believe 03-04 is skewed because they lost Stevens in January that year. Remember how big of a psychological blow that was?

So I would count that year as an exception. Your 99 season is well-pointed out, but the league was different then. So it was in 2004 as well.

What you see from the totals is that their post-lockout shutout trend has gone up. Take the two 2nd round exit years and compare them to the two 1st round exit years.

Anyway, that being said, I will agree with you that it isn’t that big of a stat or correlation, but to say that it doesn’t mean anything would ignore that since the lockout their shutout totals have gone up and the playoff exits have been earlier. Coincidence? Maybe. Just thought I would point it out.

Their playoff goal scoring average:

09 – 2.143 goals per game
08 – 2.4 goals per game
07 – 2.73 goals per game
06 – 3 goals per game

Of course these stats are skewed, because it 07 & 06, they won a round. Meaningless? Probably. Interesting to analyze – sure.

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by Cherno77 on Mar 31, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying ignore them, or that they’re completely meaningless, just that they’re to be taken with a huge grain of salt and considered as what they are: largely coincidental statistics with no direct causality.

It’s an interesting point, and some basic conclusions can be drawn (i.e. a less potent offense over an 82 game season is more likely to lose earlier in the playoffs), but there really is no connection outside of that, and so no reason to think that past results will dictate future results. Like any other simple statistic, there are far too many other variables to put too much weight behind it.

But, as you say, it does point to a disturbing trend. One that, hopefully, Lou and Jacques are aware of and plan to remedy (and I believe the acquisition of Kovalchuk was precisely to address that).

by elesias on Mar 31, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

What about context? Are shutouts overall up those seasons? If everybody is getting shut out more (on the whole), it’s less of an impact. But as elesias said, it’s just coincidence.

How many times were they shut out in 94-95, 99-00, and 02-03?

Go Jets
Go Devils

by FrankG929 on Apr 1, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had the misfortune of being at the game last night. What a waste of a great crowd. I was surprised to see so many people there on a weekday. Fans showed up, Devils didn’t.

John is spot on with Marty being the sole reason we were still in the game after 3 periods. If only he could score goals too.

My gripe. No goal scoring. Look, with Chara on the blueline and a half-decent Rask, I wasn’t expecting a 6 goal game, but damn, give me at least 2. Support Marty somehow.

And the officiating was HORRIBLE. Not that we score on the power play, but geez, give us something. McAmmond tripped (no call). Elias tripped (no call). Goalie interference on a play developing behind Boston’s net (no call). Not that the outcome would have changed, because our powerplay looked discombobulated. (if anyone can find a more silly word that applies, please add)

I have been really holding out with hope for this team, but they are showing me nothing to be excited about going into the playoffs. They have their moments, but a streaky team will not make much of a dent into the Stanley Cup chase. With this play, we are looking at a 4 seed going into the playoffs.

WORST THING: I brought a potential new Devil fan to the game last night, and the game even for me, was boring. I didn’t want to ask him what he thought. He was being nice and said “thanks for taking me” at least.

Don't mess with the Devils, buddy. We're number one, we beat anybody! We're the Devils! The Devils!! Aaaaaa!!

by Devil_Hard_Core on Mar 31, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

This game went how I expected

Here is what I knew before this game even started.

The Devils have the #1 defense in the league and the Bruins have the #2 defense in the league. Right off the bat I knew this was going to be a low scoring game.

The Devils are ranked 22nd in the league in offense and the Bruins are ranked dead last. This had the potential to be a very boring game.

Regardless how much offensive talent the Devils actually have, on paper anyway, the are definately not a powerhouse in the league in scoring. As far back as I can remember they never have been actually. Should they be producing more goal wise, of course. But they are not, so they go by what they know, defense, defense, and more defense. As a hardcore Devs fan for years, I have come to terms with this. So playing the 2nd best defensive team in the league does not help our offensive chances.

The NHL season is long a grueling and 6 games away from being over and the Devs have just punched their tickets for another chance to win the Cup. So I am sure that players (the Devils players anyway) are not playing with any sort of desperation. Take a look at the records from all of the teams that have clinched a spot, far from fantastic. I get the feeling that they are just kind of coasting along until the playoffs start. Honestly I am OK with this, I don’t really care who we play in the first round or about adding another Atlantic Division banner in the Rock. If they want another Cup they have to go through every team in their wau eventually. I am 100% confident that our team will rise to the occasion in due time but right now they are just playing pre season hockey basically. I just seriously hope JL stops juggling line combos once the playoffs start.

Fellow fans mark my words we will be a force in the playoffs but right now I am taking these loses with a grain of salt. This is all IMO anyway…Lets go Devils.

by Stevens Would Kill You on Mar 31, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i just don't get it

Yea the devils didn’t generate any offense, the officiating WAS terrible, and brodeur played great but aside from those points one thing really gets to me – the fact that lemaire keeps shaking up the lines as much as tiger woods has with his women. I really liked Rolston and Kovalchuk together and finally when they get some chemistry, he puts zharkov with kovalchuk. I understand his motive, but you can’t build chemistry by changing the lines every game. Is anyone else thinking the same as I am? I really hope they are back together against chicago.

by Jacques Strapp on Mar 31, 2010 1:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hopefully

Chicago continues its slump on Friday. 3-7 in their last 10 road games

Hockey is a sport for white men. Basketball is a sport for black men. Golf is a sport for white men dressed like black pimps.- Tiger Woods

by RolliePollieKovy on Mar 31, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

What is Zharkov doing on the 2nd line???

I hate to say it but Zharkov is hurting the offense. What has he done anyway. He has not scored a goal all year and he makes more mistakes than good plays. Lets get a veteran in there instead of him. Pelley or Pandolfo would be a start. Also this line juggling is driving me crazy. Lets develop some line chemistry already.

Donald Vasquez

by don_vas on Mar 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Pelley or Pandolfo? All I have to say is ugg. So you want to add more checking forwards?

Not disagreeing exactly but sure Zharkov doesnt have a goal. Parise and Kovalchuk a side no one on this team is putting the puck in the net. With the minutes Zharkov gets I dont see how he is hurting the team.

by NJDOhio on Mar 31, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

njersey devils, where?

agreed Pelley or Pando would have been better in the line up. maybe even Mr. Magoo?? i have a feeling we will not see Zharkov again untill next season! that is totally fine by me! Marty on the other glove, (go Marty – go Marty ) did have a heck of game along with Mr. Rask! The Devils really did not look like a team who just came off a 5-1 loss. They normally come out with more of an edge & fire. it seems like to me the Devils/ organization just gave a little helping hand to our Boston/ mass. peeps! just enough to keep them in the hunt for the eighth spot. a little helping hand if you know what i mean?? i could be crazy but, who knows? Boston had a good game! I’ll give them that! the shot total for the devils was down right pitiful. c’mon man!! they were lucky Marty was in his game or else it would have been 5-1 again. i can just picture a dreadful train ride home if i was up there at the game.

by ANDY IN VA on Mar 31, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think Zharkov is a problem

He’s actually played well but he isn’t getting the goals. He stands out on the ice when he forechecks and could’ve had a goal but he passed it up. Any player would do that if he thinks the player is open for a pass. It was one mistake. I like Pelley so far, I hadn’t liked him before but he is showing me how good he is on the 4th line. Pandolfo is a head case. What is he a minus 10? Hopefully Jacques gives Zharks one more chance and he puts it home.

Hockey is a sport for white men. Basketball is a sport for black men. Golf is a sport for white men dressed like black pimps.- Tiger Woods

by RolliePollieKovy on Mar 31, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

-10 with 9 points playing against the other team’s top line usually. Oooooh, that’s terrible. So to me, Pando doesn’t take anything away offensively (plus he’s got 4 more goals than Zharkov, so he’s probably a plus), and it’s hard to argue that he’s not one of the Devils best defensive forwards. Zharkov v. Pandolfo should be a no brainer. It’s why Peters ever gets a start that befuddles the heck out of me.

Go Jets
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by FrankG929 on Apr 1, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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