Ilya Kovalchuk Contributed More on Defense than Evgeni Malkin - A Look at Kovalchuk's 2009-10 GVT
Ilya Kovalchuk is a fantastic sniper, a player who has put up 338 goals and 304 assists in 621 games. Standing officially at 6'2" and 230 pounds, Kovalchuk will be one of the hottest names on the free agency market this summer. The New Jersey Devils swung a deal in early February to pick up the erstwhile face of the Atlanta Thrasher franchise and ended up having a good, but not special time in New Jersey. He led the Devils in playoff scoring, but given how the Devils got eliminated, not many are likely going to use his playoff performance as reason why he'll command big dollars this summer.
Shortly after the playoffs, I defended the deal. It was a deal that had to be made. Now Kovalchuk has the option to test the waters for himself. He's in the prime of his career and he's really a special player even beyond the fact that he leads all active NHL players under 30 in goals. Based on observation, it's noticeable that Kovalchuk's puck handling is amazing; he's probably the only Devil who can take on a defenseman and win a one-on-one more than just occasionally; and he can get a shot off from anywhere on the ice.
The advanced statistics interest me more, and not just because they remove confirmation and observation bias. They can go into depth into how well Kovalchuk performed. Maybe we'll learn something beyond the narrative around Kovalchuk. Maybe it can provide a little suggestion into why Lou has begun talks with Kovalchuk's agent, Jay Grossman, about a contract before Paul Martin and his people were contacted, as per Tom Gulitti's article at NorthJersey.com. (Thanks to ILWT reader Bill for the heads-up via e-mail.) Maybe we'll find something about him that we won't particularly miss should he go elsewhere.
Yesterday, I explained why his PDO over the last three seasons impressed me. That he maintained an on-ice shooting percentage of about 12% on 5-on-5 play is nothing short of remarkable. No current Devil broke that threshold in either of the last three seasons, much less maintained it across multiple recent seasons.
Today, I looked up Ilya Kovalchuk's goals versus threshold (GVT) stats Behind the Net and want to share them with you. The results and further opinion comes after the jump, including proof by GVT that Kovalchuk contributed more on defense than Evgeni Malkin as both an Atlanta Thrasher and as a New Jersey Devil.
What is GVT?
GVT stands for Goals Versus Threshold. Tom Awad of Puck Prospectus came up with the stat to objectively measure players against each other based on their contributions to goals. It's similar to VORP and Awad explains the main benefits of GVT in this introductory article. Similarly, he emphasizes that GVT works best for regular season performances and that it is a results-based stat. It doesn't measure talent, intangibles, or chemistry; it measures contribution to goals and that's that.
(Aside #1: How it's calculated explains why I didn't use GVT for Paul Martin. Players who are injured and just don't play a lot of games suffers in this stat. Even if they have an amazing 22 games, their contribution will always be less than someone who was just good in 82 games.)
Essentially, for a skater, GVT is the sum of offensive GVT, defensive GVT, and shootout GVT. A GVT of 0 is replacement level, as in an average NHL player would contribute more at that level. A higher GVT value in either category is desirable for any player.
Kovalchuk's 2009-10 GVT by Team
Behind the Net not only stores this data, but actually breaks up players by team. We can see Kovalchuk's GVT contributions as both a Thrasher and a Devil.
| TEAM | GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | OGIT | DIT | RPM | Off. GVT | Def. GVT | SO GVT | Total GVT |
| Atlanta | 49 | 31 | 27 | 58 | 1 | 26.8 | 18 | 6.5 | 11.1 | 1.2 | -0.2 | 12.1 |
| New Jersey | 27 | 10 | 17 | 27 | 9 | 15.1 | 12 | 7.9 | 3.6 | 2.2 | -0.3 | 5.5 |
Note: OIT = offensive ice time, DIT = defensive ice time, RPM = relative plus/minus
Ilya Kovalchuk contributed more to the offense in Atlanta than he did in New Jersey. While 27 points in 27 games was nothing to sneeze at, Kovalchuk was scoring at a fantastic rate in Atlanta. Even the basic stats prior to the jump show this. His total shooting percentage was very high (17.3% vs. 9.0%); he had a lot more offensive ice time in Atlanta than in New Jersey; and his high offensive GVT reflect that. Based on how Awad calculates each individual GVT, goals are valued higher than assists. That should be of no surprise, as it's goals versus threshold. Kovalchuk's ridiculous .632 goals/game rate in Atlanta would lead to such a powerful offensive GVT rather than his .370 goals/game.
Basically, I'm not surprised that his offensive GVT in Atlanta would be larger than it was in New Jersey. What really strikes me is his defensive GVT.
No, he's not the second coming of Travis Zajac or Jordan Staal, but his defensive GVT was above replacement level on both teams in this past season. Even his defensive GVT from his Atlanta portion of 2009-10 was higher than teammate Maxim Afinogenov for the whole season (0.0) and Pittsburgh star center Evgeni Malkin (1.1).
If nothing else, this is a stat that proves Kovalchuk has, in fact, contributed something defensively. Perhaps not as much as you'd like, but he's not the defensive liability as some claim. Feel free to laugh when someone brings that up in a discussion about what Kovalchuk can do.
Looking at both team's contributions show that he contributed more in New Jersey than he did in Atlanta. Is this the effect of playing fewer games, with less of a chance for errors to add up? Perhaps playing for Jacques Lemaire and his coaching staff taught him a few things on how to manage his area in his own zone? Maybe Kovalchuk wanted to make a good impression and put out more of an effort on defense?
Whatever reason you choose to support, teams should see Kovalchuk as an offensive force, but not necessarily a waste defensively either.
Curiously, his contribution on the shootout is below replacement level. Not something you'd expect from a player who rolls out 35+ goal seasons like it was no big deal. Shootout GVT is a bit odd because you see Sidney Crosby, Anze Kopitar, and Pavel Datsyuk among the largest contributors, but exploring a bit finds both Sedin twins at replacement level and scorers like Henrik Zetterberg, Vincent Lecavalier, and Brad Richards among the worst contributors.
I'm taking it to mean that if I need a player for a shootout, Kovalchuk may not be among initial choices. However, it's a bit strange to me to find talented forwards all over the place in this stat.
Kovalchuk's GVT Across Both Teams
Well, it's great to see Kovalchuk's contributions by team. However, Kovalchuk's whole season included both. Trying to compare them separately to the rest of the league doesn't say a whole lot. A GM isn't going to just look at each performance separately, they're going to look at his season as a whole. A team's management isn't going to look at this and determine that Kovalchuk's total GVT was as much as Rene Bourque and Chris Stewart when he was in Atlanta; but only was as much as Brad Boyes and Vernon Fiddler in New Jersey.
Let's assume that these stats can be added. I honestly don't know if this makes actual sense, but I'm going ahead with it anyway. Given how so many of the top scorers have a total offensive ice time above 40, I highly doubt Kovalchuk made the absolute most of his time. As a top scorer himself, he probably is up there in that stat and the only way Kovalchuk could reach that is if we add both team contributions together.
| TEAM | GP | G | A | PTS | +/- | OIT | DIT | RPM | Off. GVT | Def. GVT | SO GVT | Total GVT |
| Atlanta |
49 | 31 | 27 | 58 | 1 | 26.8 | 18 | 6.5 | 11.1 | 1.2 | -0.2 | 12.1 |
| New Jersey | 27 | 10 | 17 | 27 | 9 | 15.1 | 12 | 7.9 | 3.6 | 2.2 | -0.3 | 5.5 |
| 2009-10 Total | 76 | 41 | 44 | 85 | 10 | 41.9 |
30 |
N/A |
14.7 | 3.4 | -0.5 | 17.6 |
Assuming the GVT makes sense added up, this puts Kovalchuk up among similar scorers from this past season. His combined offensive GVT puts him ahead of Joe Thornton (14.4) and Zach Parise (14.2), but behind Dany Heatley (15.0). Only 11 other skaters - 10 forwards and Mike Green - finished ahead of Kovalchuk in terms of offensive contributions to their team. That forward group includes Alex Ovechkin, Crosby, Daniel Sedin, and Henrik Sedin among other names you should recognize. This further proves that Ilya Kovalchuk was contributing as much as the best in the league to goals across both teams. In Atlanta more so than New Jersey, granted, but his time in New Jersey didn't pull him down.
His total defensive GVT puts him higher up the league, further proving that Kovalchuk was not a total liability on defense in 09-10. In fact, he contributed to his teams defense as much as Jeff Carter, Dustin Penner, the recently signed Nicklas Backstrom, Kyle Brodziak, Martin Hanzal, and defenseman Jack Johnson. No, I wouldn't think of putting Kovalchuk out on a penalty kill or to check the other team. However, it makes those times we saw Kovalchuk out there at the end of the game with the opposition having pulled their goalie a little more sensible. He's not awful on defense. Again, feel free to laugh at those who claim he can't defend because the defensive GVT says otherwise.
His shootout GVT is even worse combined; but as stated earlier, I throw up my hands at how much it really says about a player beyond whether they should be a go-to player on the shootout. Kovalchuk being below replacement level says no.
The last value, his total goals versus threshold value of 17.4 is quite good. Whether it's elite is up to your opinion. 17.4 would put him 31st among all NHL players last season; however, it was the 15th highest among all NHL forwards from last season. Kovalchuk's total GVT would rank third among all Devils players behind team leader Zach Parise (21.3) and Martin Brodeur (20.5). On the other hand, his total GVT put him in between Pavel Datsyuk (17.7) and Jonathan Toews (17.1), two of the more talented players in the NHL today. Again, I leave it to you to make your own opinion as to whether Kovalchuk's 2009-10 contributions was exceptional or just very good.
Conclusion
Basically, Kovalchuk's contributions to the Atlanta Thrashers were higher than the New Jersey Devils for a number of reasons. He was shooting at a very high percentage, and so his offensive GVT was sparked largely by the sheer amount of goals he scored. It also helped that he played more games with Atlanta. However, in New Jersey, his defensive contributions improved whilst his lower shooting percentage plus lower number of games cut into his offensive GVT by a large amount. Only in shootouts did Kovalchuk perform below replacement level.
In total, Kovalchuk ranks quite well in offensive and total GVT among other NHL forwards. His defensive GVT total matched those who do not necessarily have a reputation for being poor defenders, suggesting that the notion that Kovalchuk can't defend as simply not being true in the 2009-10 season. Again, the only shortfall was in shootouts and all that really says is that Kovalchuk didn't perform well at them - it doesn't say much about he played in actual game itself.
Ultimately, all this points to how Kovalchuk contributed, it's not the only stat to measure how well a player did. But it does confirm that Kovalchuk is a player who contributes much on offense and suggests that he will contribute to whoever he plays for across a full season - be it as a New Jersey Devil or someone else. In fact, I think it's because he's been such an important contributor that the Devils are talking to Kovalchuk and his agent before Martin. They'd could do it just to see see what range Kovalchuk and his agent are interested in and use that as a template going forward for their other deals.
Big thanks to Behind the Net for calculating and storing these numbers, as well as Tom Awad for coming up with the GVT statistic. Incidentally, Awad put together an all-time GVT list in a giant Excel spreadsheet that may be of your interest up at the Behind the Net blog. Learn where Kovalchuk ranks all-time as well as other players (guess where Martin Brodeur is). Clarification note about the spreadsheet: By the way, the all-time GVT is normalized to account for goals/game and total games across different eras so the numbers there are going to be a different from the non-normalized Behind the Net, which is OK because the numbers at Behind the Net are isolated for just 2009-10. Also, the all-time list includes a Help factor which accounts for their teammates be they good (positive) or bad (negative). Thanks to Tom Awad for clearing that up for me.
Let me know what you think. Did Kovalchuk's defensive GVT surprise you? That he was better than Evgeni Malkin, among others, in contributions to defense? Does Kovalchuk offensive or total GVT impress you, or just confirm what you thought about him? Does it change what you think about Kovalchuk going forward? Please leave your thoughts in the comments. (But do note that I made no opinion on whether he should be re-signed or how much he's worth or anything of that ilk. Just that Kovalchuk was a big contributor in his whole 2009-10.)
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So now does the fact Lou is talking to Kovy over Martin possibly give some insight as to what I have said about Martin.
We know the numbers may not allow for both to be signed. However, your posts all mentioned we could not let Martin walk…A little Ironic no?
If Lou thought Martin was a “must keep” why bother with Kovy?
Please explain…..
On a side note….why did you not mention whether he should be signed or not….You have made it quite clear with Martin….why not with Kovy? Just curious as to your rationale.
Because that’s not the point of this post. It’s about Kovalchuk’s GVT.
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by John Fischer on May 19, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well than why did you start Martin’s thread:
Paul Martin has become the top defenseman for the New Jersey Devils in recent seasons, leading the defense in both points and time on ice until this past season, where he missed 59 games due to a broken left arm. Martin is one of the impending unrestricted free agents from New Jersey, so his return may not be guaranteed. Initially, I felt the Devils should make every effort to keep Martin even over Ilya Kovalchuk. However, how effective has Paul Martin been? Where does he stack up with respect to the rest of the team? Where does he stack up with respect to other defensemen?
My point is, you are skewing the message board to following solely your opinion. Your profile claims you are open to learning, yet you consistently promote your ideas…Yea I know its your blog, but seriously you should do a better job of trying to separate your opinion from the post or provide it equally from the get go. Don’t make 5 posts about Martin and how he SHOULD be signed and then post stats for Kovy.
Yes I know you will say people will form their own opinions…Some will, other will just simply follow the implied leader.
Maybe if you began to accept other ideas and philosophies or at least try to understand. It seems once your set on an idea…thats it.
Now i’m sure I’ll get a bunch of comments by some of your loyal lapdogs…don’t care.
This DOES NOT MEAN EVERY POST IS BIASED…So don’t try those arguments.
1) This is not a message board. There are no threads. There are posts. Comments for each post are set up so you can talk about that very post.
2) Yeah, I feel that Martin should be signed over Kovalchuk. I wrote several posts summing up a lot of research that shows that A) Paul Martin is a very good defenseman and B) he’s the top defenseman on the market this summer. I’ve focused on him first because I wanted to provide some base to my claim about how I feel about Martin as a player. If anything, I’ve shown that he’s better than some give him credit for and that reality bothers some people.
Given that some Devils fans rate Kovalchuk so well, I decided to look into him and I’m pleasantly surprised about what I’ve found. So I make a post about it.
Tell me why I can’t show how good Kovalchuk was/is in a completely separate set of posts that have nothing to do with Martin? Tell me how that’s a contradiction to show that both are very good players? I only mentioned Martin here since that I found Kovalchuk to be a significant contributor to his teams in 2009-10, maybe it’s only sensible he’d be called first about negotiations. That Lou would like to have some baseline so when he does negotiate with Martin or some other UFA, he can judge things accordingly.
Notice how nowhere in this post or in this comment did I say that Kovalchuk was important to sign or that I’m walking back on my earlier statement.
3) Moreover, ALL of the posts I put up are about what I think, what I feel, what I found, what I’ve learned and so forth about the issues and news that go on with the New Jersey Devils. You’re always able to disagree, criticize, and such. There is no rule about disagreeing (though there is one about relevancy). Likewise, there is no rule protecting commenters from being called out on making asinine statements that have 0 to do with the post itself.
4) I am willing to learn and be wrong about things and publicly proven so. All I ask is that there’s actual evidence backing up claims.
5) Most of all, explain to me about how everything you’ve posted in here is relevant to Kovalchuk’s GVT? Of all the questions, I’m the most interested in #5.
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by John Fischer on May 19, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if you began to accept other ideas and philosophies or at least try to understand. It seems once your set on an idea…thats it.
Maybe if you provided an ounce of data instead of opinions, or contrariness just to be contrary, you’d see that people here are more open-minded than you seem to think.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -Mark Twain (?)
Id say the entire purpose of what John has been doing since the season ended is to take a more broader, open minded look at the Devils performance. A few months back we had a discussion about confirmation bias and how it relates to sports fans. The advanced stats provide us with ways to operationalize certain intangibles that aren’t captured by the traditional stat line.
The two main issues facing the Devils this offseason are whether they resign Paul Martin and Ilya Kovalchuk. With Paul Martin he attempted to address pertinent questions that came up in various discussions:
1. Is Paul Martin the best defenseman on the Devils (like a lot of us here think)?
2. Does Martin’s presence on the blueline make the Devils better defensively?
3. Does his presence make them better offensively?
4. On the powerplay?
5. Is he a true #1 defenseman?
6. How does one define a #1 defenseman?
All of these should be considered when thinking about what type of offer (if any) to make. The analysis largely supported what a lot of us here have thought, Martin is the top defenseman on the Devils. The question still remains whether he is a true #1 defenseman who is worth over $6 million a year.
With Kovalchuk a big question here AND elsewhere is whether or not he fits with the Devils. Both of the posts on Kovalchuk have attempted to address this. This current thread is looking to see if Kovy really is such a defensive liability because that’s his reputation. Is that deserved or is it the result of some biased processing?
This is a Devils centric-blog (as you pointed out) and John has delved deeply into Paul Martin in an effort to provide a bigger picture. He is now moving onto Ilya Kovalchuk. Will his opinion seep into these analyses? Sure it will (Id challenge you to find me any analysis of any topic where the writer’s opinion doesn’t seep in even a little bit), but he is pretty clear on the methodology he is using, which could be open to statistical critiques. John is very open (both here and the old blog before it moved) he’s not going to come after me with a pitchfork for saying I think Kovalchuk should be a bigger priority than Martin and that Im still skeptical about signing Martin to a long term deal if its over $5 million a year.
Lastly, this reply doesn’t make me a loyal lapdog. I pointed out that the analyses are statistical, anyone with good knowledge of stats and statistical theory can raise objections to both the advanced stats employed and/or the methods John is using. I just find those critiques to be insightful than personal attacks because you don’t like his conclusions.
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by LangsForPres on May 20, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok John & Fellas here it is...
I am new to ILWT. Since joining, I must say that I have liked a lot of what I have read and seen so far. I have both disagreed and agreed with some things. Most of the time my conclusions are based on what I have seen, and some of the time; based on what I have read.
The nagging problem that I have presents itself when I come across a post that uses terms, and systems of analysis, such as “advanced statistics” and “confirmation and observation bias.” John often uses these types of terms and systems to facilitate an analysis to its conclusion regarding the intangible of a player that is currently the topic of discussion in the ILWT forum.
Now, I will admit that the bulk of the responsibility falls on me to learn what I need to know in order to produce valid, productive arguments and refrain from making “asinine” comments but some of the terms that I come across in an ILWT post are not made available by traditional sources. So, I can understand tmp1281 frustrations and somtimes I want to say things that could be regarded as an attack but I refrain from doing so because that is not going to get me what I want. However, sometimes I will make a comment after really trying to understand what the topic of discussion is about and I’ll get a response from John that leaves me scratching my head and wondering if my contribution made him angry.
Dispite my frustations at times, I still respect John and his knowledge of the game, as well as; his ability to breakdown all relevant data. I also respect the competence and feedback of many of the regular commenters as well; particularly: elesias, drhgzang and a few others. I think this is a great blog and if I am going to learn more about the game of hockey then this is the blog that I want to use to learn. I just don’t want to be discouraged from asking questions that will help me get the level of understanding that you guys have acheived.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 20, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
tmp1281 raises a number of good number of points that should be considered. It sometimes is mixed with what seems to be a personal attack, the above in particular about closemindedness.
For the “advanced stats” you should check out the Behind the Net blog, a while back they had a huge primer on a lot of them, what they mean, how they’re calculated, etc. You might have to dig a little in their archive.
Will do, Thanks.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 20, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
tmp1281 raises a number of good number of points that should be considered. It sometimes is mixed with what seems to be a personal attack, the above in particular about closemindedness.
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by John Fischer on May 20, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
…some of the terms that I come across in an ILWT post are not made available by traditional sources.
This is a fair point, perhaps a glossary is in order?
To be honest, I find myself oft times over at Behind the Net and some of the other SBN blogs trying to figure this stuff out too.
Regardless, don’t be afraid to ask a question, just do your best to ensure it hasn’t already been covered first (that’s where hackles get raised).
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -Mark Twain (?)
This is something I’ve asked of Gabe myself. The advanced statistics community does so much but accessibility is lacking. Understandably so, they’re doing things that probably not even 1% of hockey fans would even think of (myself totally included).
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by John Fischer on May 20, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking more for ILWT.
Covering every acronym would be asking a lot, especially since there seems to be a new one every other day, but perhaps a brief explanation of the ones people use most like Corsi and GVT.
Sometimes even just knowing what it stands for is enough to extrapolate how the stat works and its importance.
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I Hope
I surely hope we sign this guy, he is a dynamic game breaking forward who can only help our team. However, I do believe that we need a center to work with him to bring out his best. Also, I think it would be difficult for us to keep both Parise and Kovy given the fact we still have to either sign Martin or bring in a blue liner who can move the puck. If we do sign Kovy I hope the new coach coming in has a better feel for what Kovy can do for the team and how best to use his skills. Should be interesting to see how Lou makes it all work.
This is just my opinion, plain and simple.
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I’m not surprised with Kovy’s defensive GVT. Watching him play for the Devils made me realize he is better defensively than people think. I still don’t think keeping Kovy is a good idea. He is a great player but he isn’t what we need right now.
We already have 5 wingers signed for next year. 8 if you count Pando, PL3, and Peters. 9 if you count Clarkson who will most likely be signed since he is an RFA. We have 1 true center signed for next year. I will repeat 9 wingers, 1 center. I’ll really be upset if we sign Kovy or really any other winger. We need centers and defensemen that’s all.
don't be too upset
Look at it this way, 4 lines, 8 wingers start every game. Rosters are generally 23 players, one extra winger, one extra centerman and one extra defenseman is the reasonably logical way to stack the extras. We have 9. Sounds like the right number. If it works within the cap, who would you rather have, Andrew Peters or Ilya Kovalchuk?
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Funny you bring up Peters. I should take the time to run some analysis on him.
I think we can all agree about the conclusion ahead of time, but analysis can prove it without the shadow of a doubt.
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by John Fischer on May 20, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I just read Awad’s article and its not clear to me whether simply adding the two GVTs is appropriate/allowed. I was thinking simply averaging them could be one way but perhaps it would be best to simply calculate one for the entire season (collapsing across teams) while also presenting the GVT he attained on both Atlanta and New Jersey. Players get traded all the time so Id be surprised if Awad didn’t think about this at some point so maybe we should just ask him…
Excellent question. I’ve got his all-time GVT list at home. When I last checked, his listing for Kovalchuk was not far off from just adding the two. I didn’t think much of it since Awad’s all-time list normalized all numbers and I figured that accounted for the difference.
Ill ask him about it later. Ill also look at that list again because while GVT on his list was normalized, if the other numbers (OIT, DIT) were just summed, then perhaps it makes sense.
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by John Fischer on May 20, 2010 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
FOLLOW UP
I did ask Tom Awad and he confirmed that, yes, GVT can be added properly across two teams in the same season. So, what I did in the post actually works in his formulation.
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by John Fischer on May 20, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The way he played here recently, I wasn’t surprized that he had a respectable GVT. If Lou does Re-sign Kovalchuk and gets a good deal, then it seems more like a steal because the Devils are getting more for the buck than just a 40 goal scorer. He’s not going to be like Parise, Datsyuk or Kesler, but he’s probably going to be better than most high scoring wingers defensively (i.e. Ovechkin, Semin, Gaborik, Heatley) than they probably would be
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