Jacques Lemaire Defends Coaching Decisions of 09-10 New Jersey Devils, Hits Back at Critics
Back on May 11, Rich Chere came out with an article featuring plenty of input from players, notably Jamie Langenbrunner, about the apparent locker room issues that undercut the 2009-10 New Jersey Devils. It was a great article, but three quotes from it stuck out to me that I wrote about at length on that day. Honestly, they rubbed me the wrong way and, perhaps still colored by my distaste for Jamie Langenbrunner's disappearance in April, I wasn't really convinced in taking the player's side on this one.
I didn't write it then, but I wondered if the proverbial other shoe was going to drop. Now that Jacques Lemaire is now retired and will take a different role within the Devils organization, I had my doubts that he'd say anything. Well, Rich Chere did it again with this follow-up today; Lemaire definitely hit back at some of the criticism. Even if he didn't intend to.
I'd like to juxtapose the three quotes from the article from Langenbrunner and the players that I pointed out with some quotes from Lemaire - and they are quotes - in response. More, after the jump.
Quote #1: From Langenbrunner:
There were some differences of opinion when it came to dealing with a few issues," Langenbrunner said. "There were some things that were done that probably didn’t help the situation. For most of the season it was fine, up until Christmas."
It's never directly addressed in response in the Lemaire article since Langenbrunner was intentionally vague. But Quote #2 from the Langenbrunner article seems to mesh well with this.
Quote #2: From Langenbrunner/Chere:
"There were a few things that happened, a few issues that were tough for me to let go. I probably didn’t handle them correctly. Not all personalities completely mesh, but they are able to work together. I had no problems with the way he treated me. It was more about team issues that we would never agree on."
Lemaire’s need to constantly juggle line combinations was questioned by some players and Ilya Kovalchuk’s freewheeling individual freedom and quarterbacking on the power play did not sit well with others.
In retrospect, I can't help but think these are at least some of "the issues" that led to "differences of opinion." The "things that were done that probably didn't help the situation." Here's how Lemaire reacted to these questions:
"I look at the teams still in the playoffs right now. They match lines. I don’t see why we would be so special that we don’t have to match lines," Lemaire said.
"As far as switching the players on lines, Scotty Bowman has been known as a great coach and he moved players around a lot. There are a lot of coaches who move players around when things aren’t going well or playing against certain teams. I’ve done it my whole career. I don’t think it’s an issue. It could be an issue if you’re not good enough and you need to play with certain guys to get better. Then, for that particular guy, it would be an issue."
First off, let me elaborate on Lemaire's first statement: most teams at high levels of hockey match lines. The 2010 Memorial Cup Final viewers were treated to eventual champions Windsor rolling their lines like machines in response to Brandon's changes. Even when it was 9-1, the match-ups stayed constant. The NHL teams in the playoffs who do line matching is even picked up by fans who do scoring chance analysis of teams they don't necessarily follow. Junior teams line-match. International teams line-match. NHL teams both in the playoffs and otherwise line-match.
If the players had a beef with the line-matching, and the "I don't see why we would be so special" comment suggests that some did, then they really need to wise up. I really, really hope that a veteran didn't have a problem with line-matching.
As far as the lineup changes go, Lemaire's point of view is clear. He's been a part of it in his own career, he's witnessed over coaches, and he's done it throughout his own coaching career. Of course, he's not going to see it as a problem. Here, the player's (and fan's) complaints have some validity, since Lemaire's point boils down to, "This is what I've done, I don't see a need to change."
That said, his closing line was definitely a smack at a few players. Come to think of it, a With Or Without You analysis may highlight who may fit that description of players who need to play with certain players to be successful. I know Zach Parise, Travis Zajac, and Paul Martin don't fit. Granted, Kovalchuk didn't shine, but for some forwards the other option when not playing with Kovalchuk was Parise, who was the team's Corsi machine in 09-10. Maybe doing one for Langenbrunner or, say, Brian Rolston would yield some results?
Of course, even if it shows that Langenbrunner, for example, does so much better with Zajac and Parise than away from him, then that would mean all three should be kept together. After all, some players have "it" with each other and some don't - nothing to do with talent or anything like that.
Oh, as for Kovalchuk, Lemaire had this response:
"He played different than the other guys because of his talent. I have no problem with that," Lemaire said. "He had 6-7 chances a game. You think I’m going to tell him to play defense? Come on. We’re looking to score goals here. Give me a break.
"I let him play as much as I could as long as it didn’t disturb the whole team: ‘Play the way you want, but be responsible when it’s time to come back and when it’s time to do the job in your zone.’ Which he was."
No one as far as I know does any scoring chance analysis for the New Jersey Devils, so I can't substantiate the 6-7 chances per game part.
However, he's on point about his talent. Gabe Desjardens noted how Ilya Kovalchuk's shooting is in a class of it's own in this post last Thursday and in this post today. Kovalchuk's PDO from the last three seasons shows a player who can help maintain a relatively high team on-ice shooting percentage. A quick look at Kovalchuk's GVT showed that, yes, Kovalchuk was responsible in his own zone when necessary while being an offensive contributor. Granted, he wasn't as big of a contributor in NJ as he was in Atlanta on offense; but he still put up a point per game average. Kovalchuk doesn't play like most of the other Devils and to cram him into that style and only have him play like that takes away from what makes Kovalchuk a great player.
If other Devils don't like that, well, they should have taken it up with Lou; he's the one who made the move for him and precisely because of how he plays - and how he scores from that style.
So of course he was going to be given more of a "free role." I get the decision and if it wasn't for his shooting percentage regressing to the mean like Wile E. Coyote off a cliff (17.3% with Atlanta, 9.0% with New Jersey), the decision would have been more visibly justified.
Quote #3: From Chere/Colin White:
Langenbrunner was unhappy about being a healthy scratch for the April 3 game in Raleigh, N.C., and remained silent on the matter for the next four days. He still will not discuss the incident in detail, but two other members of the organization suggested Lemaire disrespected Langenbrunner by trying to give the "C" to defenseman Colin White for that one game.
White wouldn’t wear it.
"I look up to Jamie. He is our leader," White said. "I’ve always looked up to him and I’ve told him that. I don’t think our (team’s) leadership can be challenged."
Oh, this leads to my favorite quote from Lemaire in this article. Emphasis mine:
"That’s not a big deal. It could be a big deal for certain guys. It wasn’t big for me," Lemaire said. "Since I’ve been coaching, except for the first five years here, I’ve been switching captains every month and sometimes every two months. The ‘C’ went to different guys.
"I know that Scotty (Stevens) didn’t miss a lot of games, but I think I gave the ‘C’ to another guy when he missed some games. It was so we had a guy to represent the team in that particular game. I don’t like several guys having an ‘A.’ Then, who is the boss? Who is the leader, the man you’re going to refer to?
"That’s my philosophy. Obviously Jamie has a different philosophy and that’s OK. It’s the way I do things. Maybe you don’t (like) it, but I’m the one coaching. This is how I do things."
My first thought was, "POW! Lemaire doesn't play around when it's time to condense some nonsense." I can't help but feel that last line should be read out loud by Lou and whoever the new head coach will be at the beginning of the season and at intervals during the 2010-11 season. It'll send a message as to who really is in control and perhaps quell any future "locker room issues."
My second thought was that Lemaire knew full well about Langenbrunner's complaint and just lowered the boom. Bringing up Scott Stevens as an example was fantastic. Maybe Stevens didn't like it so much, but unless it was lost in the annals of history or victory, Stevens got his 'C' back when he was available again and didn't give any public sign of there being a problem.
You know, like a captain, Jamie.
This all said, I'm glad Lemaire made his argument defending his actions, and I'm even more glad Chere followed up with Lemaire by referencing some of the issues raised in the earlier article from Langenbrunner and the players. It's great that both sides of the story came out. I only quoted part of it, I highly recommend that you read it if nothing else.
It may seem like I'm totally in Lemaire's corner because I think he's in the right on some of these; but I do think the coach and his staff does share a good amount of the blame for how 2009-10 ended for New Jersey. I'm not so sold on the "lines change because that's how I did it" argument, and I think good chunk of what I wrote about the coaching the right after Game 5 still applies. (Pointless Aside: That recap may be the most popular post in ILWT history.) Again, even if everyone was happy and harmonious in the locker room, I don't think it's right to say that the Devils would have beaten Philadelphia in the first round. I don't really agree that the Devils could have been in the Flyers' position now unless they at least started shooting at a rate they were expected to given their shot location, for starters.
Just as I said at the end of my own response to Chere's article with Langenbrunner and the players presenting their side of the story, we know there will be a new head coach. Lou's making a change there. Maybe he'll be "better" for the players; but it'll be up to the players themselves - and especially Langenbrunner - to ensure that relations go much better on their end in 2010-11. Otherwise, another shoe is definitely going to drop.
That's my take on Chere's article about Lemaire. Thanks for reading, but now it's your turn. Assuming you read the article, what's your take? Do you have a different opinion - better or worse - on how Lemaire coached the Devils given what he told Chere today? Do you have a different opinion of some of the players? Maybe your opinion didn't change at all? Let me know of what you think about this article, Lemaire, and the players relationship with Lemaire in the comments.
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I don't like where this is going.
“As far as switching the players on lines, Scotty Bowman has been known as a great coach and he moved players around a lot. There are a lot of coaches who move players around when things aren’t going well or playing against certain teams. I’ve done it my whole career. I don’t think it’s an issue. It could be an issue if you’re not good enough and you need to play with certain guys to get better. Then, for that particular guy, it would be an issue.”
Come on. This is obviuosly a cheap shot at Langy for disagreeing with some of Lemaire’s coaching decisions. To say that a player is not good enough because he plays well with some players and not others kind of tells me that Lemaire’s coaching decisions should be scruntized a lot closer. Why? Because to say that a player is supposed to play well regardless of who the player is paired with kind of says that the notion of chemistry does not exist. If this is the case, then what do managerial executives take into consideration besides talent. I am sure that at some point the question is asked as to whether one players ability compliments another player’s ability and the decision to hire, fire or trade a player is based on that factor.
The fact that there were players who were bothered by the line chages indicate that the friction going on in the lockeroom was not all Langy. As Captain of the team, it was Langy’s job to be the mouth piece for the team when they had something to say. If Langy has an issue then, as a member of the team, he does have a right to voice his disatisfaction verbally or otherwise; as long as it does disrupt the team. Based on what I saw his actions didn’t.
Some members of the team were upset because Kovy was basically the “good son” so to speak. What I mean by this is that he received special treatment in that he was allowed to do whatever he wanted on the ice. As many of us has seen, this played to the detriment of the Devil’s interests. Like Langy, Kovy didn’t play well on certain lines either. Does this make him a “not good enough player?” A team should do whatever works for them and if it is not broken then it does not need to be fixed. I a strategy ws implemented and didn’t work, it should have been trashed and a successful one should have been implemented.
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by LoNJDTechnology on May 24, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Scott Stevens
Jamie could learn a lot from him. A leader doesn’t publicly whine on the decisions of the coach but sucks it up for the team. I am glad Lemaire said his side of the story and good on Lemaire for smacking Jamie upside the head with a big dose of extra strength reality.
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I didn’t mind the line juggling but he never kept anything that worked. Any time a line had a bad period he would change them. Also when Kovy came all the line juggling revolved around him. If he’s such a great player why did Lemaire always have to change his linemates. He also ignored the fact that we could have had 3 scoring lines and never tried to get the 3rd line going.
Also I don’t think Langenbrunner’s bad play in April was a result of him being unhappy with the coach. Langs doesn’t come off as a guy that would slack off because he was unhappy. He comes off as a guy who doesn’t like losing which is probably why he was unhappy with Lemaire because the team was losing.
I agree. Line matching is fine, but constantly changing the lines was not fine. The Devils had how many too many men on the ice penalties this season? When you have no idea who is going to be out on the ice, that stuff happens. When you don’t know who you’re going to be playing with, you can’t think up set plays that you know the other players on the ice are familiar with. Basically the whole team was out of sync to a degree.
Lemaire was not using Langenbrunner properly. Sure he could kill penalties. But ultimately his spot should be right with Zajac and Parise. That line worked well last year and it was beginning to work again this year before Lemaire juggled it out of existence.
Sorry Jacques
Your not Scotty Bowman and were not the Canadiens….
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by RolliePollieKovy on May 25, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions
But he did beat Scotty Bowman convincingly I might add in the 95 playoffs.
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by thatguy011071 on May 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
convincingly I might add. Not crossed out!
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by thatguy011071 on May 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
In the interest of completeness, I’m glad that both points of view came out. However, I’m bothered by the fact that it even came to this argument in the press.
Regardless of how the players feel about the way the coach does things, those issues need to remain in, and be resolved in the room, not in public. No team has perfect harmony in the locker room, or with their coach over a full season. There are always going to be issues of one kind or another, but they very rarely become public. Maybe it’s just because I follow them more closely, but it seems that Langenbrunner has been more public, and more demonstrative about his disagreements with both Lemaire and Sutter.
In all the years I’ve been following the team, I am really struggling to remember any time where players publicly complained like this.
In addition to the obvious example of Scott Stevens, there’s one other comparison in leadership that I’d like to bring up. Because I live in the Raleigh, NC area and attend several Hurricanes games a season, I make some effort to keep up with what’s going with that team. Over at the Canes Country blog, Bob Harwood Waeghe posted his 2009-2010 review of Rod Brind’Amour, (http://www.canescountry.com/2010/5/25/1486233/2009-10-canes-country-exit), and one quote from that article particularly stands out to me. (Emphasis is mine.)
This has been a tough season for Carolina Hurricanes center Rod Brind`Amour, no two ways about it. He finished the campaign with a total of 19 points, the lowest point total in his 20 year NHL career. His plus/minus stat of (-29) was nearly the worst in the league for the second consecutive year. He was asked to relinquish his captaincy in mid season.
The veteran ended up playing on the fourth line during the second half of the season, his average minutes on the ice dropping from the mid-teens to five to seven minutes a night.
But through all the adversity, Brind’Amour never uttered a single word of distress or complaint.
Langenbrunner is obviously at a very different stage of his career than Brind’Amour, and may well have an entirely different personality. I have no way of knowing. But the key is that when faced with situations he certainly could not have been happy with, Brind’Amour kept his mouth shut, and went out and did what the team asked him to do. In other words, he acted like a real leader, unlike Langenbrunner.
Line Shuffling
I don’t get what the huge deal about it is. Sure, with Lemaire’s system, by the time the playoffs come around you don’t have linemates that are BFF’s with each other…. but you still have 12 forwards that have had some playing time with everyone. That gives you a buttload of possibilities for matching up lines in the playoffs. Rolston doesn’t have to play with Parise and Zajac, but he can if he has to because he’s been on their line several times over the season.
I don’t think its a huge deal either and honestly it was the same guys switching lines. They also where not lighting up the scoreboard. They had Zubrus and Clarkson hurt for long stretches early and Kovalchuk was only there for the last third of the season. Arguably you could say he was switching them so often he was searching for some chemistry.
The Parise, Zajac, Langs line was the only one with successful history and maybe he should have kept them together.
I really don’t know that its that big a deal.
coaches and captains
i think lou lamorieillo will have a harder time getting a better coach than lemaire than he will if he decides to get a better captain than langenbrunner
by don in central jersey on May 25, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions
Back to 2002?
Lou traded away certain players (Sykora and Arnott) because he had felt that some players felt they could not be successful without the same linemate, or the line and how it consumed them. Lou can’t like a Captain working his way through the media and with that being said, Jamie think’s really too highly of himself. Does he feel that it’s his right to play with Parise and Zajac? Captain mean leader not HEAD COACH. Or does he feel he can’t be successful without them. Bottom line here is what I see playing out. Jamie has one year left on his deal and this maybe Jamie’s time to go and get something back while we can instead of being left empty handed. His close friend, GM, Joey News would give up the most for him, he loved Dallas so it makes sense…then we start a new.
This is the only way we move ahead. To keep Jamie, his line of thinking (literally) and bring in Capt Kangaroo to console and empower him is the wrong move and how a winning tradition is lossed. We stick with them and it’s status quo, or going backwards. Brining in Josefson and Tedenby to play for a coach that chases off (loses) young players (this is a fact) is not what we need. Actually, Lemaire would have been very beneficial to them.
The future is now with Tedenby, Josefson, etc (to name a few). We re-sign Ilya, I have always believed we would anyway. We can’t have a rat talking to Chere who is a TROLL. It is widely known…and confirmed by a major player in the hockey NY media that Chere and other beat writer’s have a grudge against Lou..IT IS TRUE, don’t believe it…that’s fine..it’s the truth though. Chere is just doing his job? Okay, fine..however note he never even blogged about Andy GReene being selected to Team USA for the WC. Why would he write that, it’s too positve. So Chere must be loving this and his coach choice in Capt Kangaroo is NOT what the Devils need and nor do their young players. We hire a coach for a Captain with one year on his deal. This is Jamie’s way of leadership? Jamie MUST be removed, Colin White needs a lecture (because no one wil take his contract) and Lou and the new coach need to put an end to this. Jamie also had a problem with Coach Julien.
Now is the time to move Jamie while we can get something for him,a major problem is sloved and his has spoken and lead his way from “the core.” Let the new Swedes become the new promise a part of the new core. Listen to Colin White, do they listen to the Coach or to Jamie? Does Jamie hold court when the coach is not around? Was he jealous of Ilya? Was Jamie pissed that Lemaire told him to play his game but be defensively responsible? ILYA WAS OUR BEST FORWARD IN THE PLAYOFFS. That fact can not be disputed. I’d love to know what Elias is thinking because he was a another spring no show. I wonder what his take in or at least on this is. However, I rather have Patty tell the room and NOT the media. We don’t need to know everything and build more problems into the media.
Many players have to be held accountable for this spring and others in the past. I think Jamie is the figure head, but other’s share a big hat in this team’s failures. Rolston was brought in to be a CENTER, not a wing. His refusal, or non acceptance of this role killed us and forced Elias to not be the sniper he is off the wing. I know this, the players that are without blame are: Ilya, Marty, Corrente, Pelley and Greene. All four players played well in the playoffs.
Look at the teams remaining, ask yourself…Paul MArtin a top three d man? Martin is as good as Matt Carle but Carle is a THREE but the Devs treat/cherrish Martin like a #1 D man. Why? What the hell has he ever done at this level? Hell, he did not even play for USA in the WC’s. Pur PP has sucked for years.
This article was about Jamie and the answer is simple, we have three draft picks this year, we trade Jamie to Dallas or best Western bidder..we let go of his contract and we get something for him before we let him or he walks NEXT July 1. We then use his 2 to sign Ilya and players committed to the team and not the C or name on the back.
Aside form the baseball reference..this is Lou and what needs to happen to Jamie (not literally of course) but he must leave just the same. Answer: Jamie must go.
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by VivaSaintMartin30 on May 25, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
How many times have we been over this? Jamie is not going anywhere! He may or may not be captain next year, but he WILL be on the team. Get used to it. Are you going to suggest we trade Rolston next? Or perhaps we can buyout Pando?
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by LangsForPres on May 26, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Lemaire used Stevens as an example and this is the measuring stick. A captain does not go through the media the way he did. Thank God his contract is over after this season. He has run his course with the Devils.
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by thatguy011071 on May 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the teams remaining, ask yourself…Paul MArtin a top three d man? Martin is as good as Matt Carle but Carle is a THREE but the Devs treat/cherrish Martin like a #1 D man. Why? What the hell has he ever done at this level? Hell, he did not even play for USA in the WC’s. Pur PP has sucked for years.
A) You do know that Paul Martin was going to be on the USA Olympic team and the only reason why he didn’t was injury. I mean, Burke waited until the last minute before finding a replacement.
B) I think you need to give Martin a little more respect. Especially this summer.
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lemarie was the wrong coach for these players,even moreso afte the trade dealine
but i think he has takin way way to much of the blame,good for him fighting back i wouldnt have expected him to take it lying down.
by Imperator_Celtic on May 26, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions

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