New Jersey Devils Offseason Activity: Change is Here
I was expecting minimal activity by the Devils on July 1st and thought we wouldn't have that much to talk about. Wow, was I wrong.
Shortly after the acquisition of Jason Arnott, Lou Lamoriello was quoted in a post by Tom Gulitti with the following:
"We haven't won in the last couple of years, so there will be changes and it has to make the team better."
Everyone handles change differently. Some of us relish change, and the opportunities it may bring. Others, who like consistency tend to resist change. With sports teams, we enjoy change primarily because it's fun to debate, gives us an outlet to escape from our stressful daily lives and because it is likely that your team didn't win a Stanley Cup (hey, only one team can win each year, right?) and has to make some personnel changes based on play. After the jump I look at the offseason moves and evaluate how the moves were made to impact the team both on and off the ice.
Of course the Devils are always making changes (coaching, non-essential player personnel) like every other NHL club but they have not made sweeping changes in recent years. Judging by his actions so far in this offseason, I think Lou Lamoriello has acknowledged the need for substantial changes to the Devils' roster in not only talent, but the character/culture of the team. Three consecutive first round playoff losses with the same roster calls for an infusion of new talent and character if the team intends to make a long playoff run. I can accept my sports teams not being as good as another team. What I can never understand is when a team plays well below expectations, which I believe the New Jersey Devils have done for the past three seasons.
A long playoff run is something that has been lacking for the Devils in recent years. We all know what happened in April but if you feel like you must, you can re-read about the past season's early exit here, here and here. As a longtime fan, it was embarrassing to see a team with proven playoff veterans lose the way they did. You can't expect your team to win all the time, but it is not too much to ask that they show that they actually wanted to win. The Devils have had numerous tough losses over the years, but the effort put forth in the playoffs was unacceptable. One quote that I can't forget was one by Martin Brodeur as the Devils were about to play game 4 in Philadelphia down in the series 2-1.
So, it’s going to say a lot about our team after this game."
Well, there wasn't really a lot to say was there? The Devils were out hustled, out coached and lacked any intensity in their game. Besides Ilya Kovalchuk, the team looked like it was playing a November game against the Florida Panthers. I have tried to forget game 4 but John had a great summary of it here that called into question some of the effort and leadership of the team, and I do suggest you take a look at it.
After the series and the season there was snipping back and forth by Jacques Lemaire and Jamie Langenbrunner (I loved Lemaire's quotes the best) in separate articles by Rich Chere you can view here and here. If you haven't read the articles, you should, they are well worth the read and give you a little insight into the locker room atmosphere of the Devils toward the end of the year.
It can be best described, from an outsider's point of view, as toxic. The most troubling aspect of the locker room issues to me was the impact it would have on the younger players who are eventually expected to take leadership roles. How did David Clarkson, Travis Zajac and Zach Parise view the situation and will this be how they 'lead' the team in the future? Were new personalities needed in the locker room in order for the team to take the next step?
AfterJohn MacLean was named Devils head coach back in June both MacLean and Lamoriello expressed faith in Langenbrunner as a leader. However, it seems Lamoriello wanted to shake this team up from the second the playoff series ended. You don't necessarily have to remove the Captain to shake up a roster. You can move smaller pieces around and bring in some quality leadership to make that Captain more accountable for the locker room culture.
The first move to change the roster was to bring former Stanley Cup hero Jason Arnott back to New Jersey for prospect Matt Halischuck and a 2011 2nd round pick. Most of us know that Lamoriello likes bringing back ex-Devils to the team, and initially this seemed no different. Arnott fills a need at center and his presence allows Jacob Josefson and Adam Henrique to develop gradually instead of being forced into an important role. To me, it speaks volumes that the first move of the offseason was to acquire a positive locker room presence in the former Captain of the Nashville Predators. One, who is not the most talented offensively, still pushed the future Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks pretty hard in the playoffs. During his time in Nashville and per this post, Arnott seemed to be a lighting rod for angst among Predator fans. On the Forecheck had a nice summary of his Captaincy:
Best of luck to Jason Arnott, though, who stepped into a leadership void in 2007 and led the Preds to an unexpected playoff berth in 2008. He was often criticized by local fans for a perceived lack of effort or leadership, but the one thing we've always heard about the Predators is that they have a solid locker room and a deep commitment to team play, which has to, in part, be credited to the team leadership.
Solid locker room? Team play? Exactly the type of player to help promote a culture of change. Lamoriello knows Arnott and the type of person he is, and after the misguided signings of Bobby Holik and Brian Rolston (in fairness at least Rolston had many other suitors) I don't think he would have brought back a former Devil for nostalgia's sake.
At first there were smaller moves that changed the roster after the year, and while they won't have a huge impact on the team on or off the ice in 2010-2011 they should be mentioned. There were the departures of Ilkka Pikarinen, Cory Murphy and then later Martin Skoula to leagues overseas. Only Skoula played a substantial role on the team last year and was a serviceable 2nd/3rd pairing defenseman. He played well, but with younger defensemen in the system, Skoula did not need to be re-signed. Additionally, in mid-May the entry level signings of Mattias Tedenby and Jacob Josefson, who Lamoriello thinks are ready for the pros, add some talented, but young, players to compete for spots on the roster. John had a writeup of both players after they signed that should be checked out. They both played in a highly competitive league (you can view how leagues stack up against one another here, courtesy of www.behindthenet.ca) and if both or one of them make the team in the fall it could start the turnover of a roster that is due for some new blood. New, young players competing for spots on the roster is a good thing, it brings added intensity and energy to training camp, and both the prospects and the Devils will benefit from the chance.
Leading up to the free agency frenzy that occurs on July 1st we also saw the Devils sign high energy Tim Sestito to a two way deal that will provide a potential fourth line player for the Devils or depth for the Albany team. Devils fans also were able to breathe a sigh of relief when it was announced that fan favorite David Clarkson had been inked to a 3 year contract at an average annual value of $2.6MM Clarkson, at least if his quotes are any indication, is very happy to be a Devil for the next three years.
"I've very excited and happy about the way things went and looking forward to the season," he said. "My agent and Mr. Lamoriello have been talking for a while."
I think Clarkson brings a great presence to the team. His positivity for being a Devil I think is genuine, plus I love the fact that he calls the GM Mr. Lamoriello. Clarkson is a fan favorite for a reason and it wouldn't shock me if he should have an A or even a C on his chest in a few years.
The same day as the Clarkson re-signing also marked the last day of Jay Pandolfo's official career with the New Jersey Devils. Both Pandolfo and Andrew Peters were put on waivers with the intent of buying out their contracts if they were not claimed by another team. It was a request by Pandolfo to Lamoriello and one that seemed to be in the best interest of both parties. If what was reported was true (his being informed via text that he wasn't playing in a playoff game after being told he was) it is unfortunate that he had to leave on those terms. That said, at a $2.5MM salary he was a player/salary the Devils could afford to lose. His departure will open up more opportunities for younger players and give him the opportunity to find a team with a use for his penalty killing expertise. Before his shoulder injury last year he was playing well and I can do nothing but wish him well wherever he may play next (even if it is the Rangers).
The Devils also re-signed forward Rod Pelley to a two year deal at a cap hit of $550K per season to serve on the 4th line again. Pelley didn't fulfill his role as the replacement for Madden last year, but he was a serviceable player who will be physical and at times provide a spark. You could live with him on the third line for a few games as well.
Now, I had thought Lamoriello's 'changes' quote to Gulitti as nothing major at the time, but even before the events of July 1st this team had taken some major steps to add talent and change the team's culture. That said, I wasn't expecting a big shake up on July 1st considering everything that had already happened. In the age of the salary cap it's tough to make sweeping changes without really pushing the limits of the team's salary cap. After the Arnott trade, I supposed that the Devils would re-sign Paul Martin, and despite Lamoriello's quotes here, I assumed that the Devils were totally out of the running for Kovalchuk.
Leading up to July 1st, it seemed more and more likely that Martin would hit the free agent market. I had hoped it might just be posturing and Martin would be signed on June 30th or early on July 1st to an extension in the neighborhood of $5MM-$5.5MM, but after some quotes by Martin which I summarized here, I personally thought his chances of remaining a Devil were at best 50/50. At that point it was understood that the Devils and Martin's agent had talked but there was no confirmation that there had been an offer yet. There were also quotes from Martin stating that he wasn't sure he wanted to be a 'Devil' and that caused me concern as well.
July 1st came and the news broke quickly that the Penguins had a deal with Martin, and the question in most Devils fans' minds then became: What happened? Per a Tom Gulitti post here you get the sense that we will never know the entire story of the negotiations. As John's article states, it was clear that Martin was the most effective defenseman in the FA market. If that is the case, and the Devils had almost two months to sign him what happened? The only reason we are left with -as he himself has stated- is that Martin wanted to play for a team that is close to winning it all.
The counter move after Martin signed in Pittsburgh was the signing of Henrik Tallinder. A move made to immediately replace Paul Martin it certainly took most Devils fans by surprise. Besides his solid play on the power play/penalty kill and his decent puck moving skills, Tallinder brings some nice intangible qualities to the club, per Lou Lamoriello and NHL.com:
"We played against him enough in Buffalo. In particular, for me, he came to the forefront on the job he did playing alongside Myers and how he helped him along. There was another factor in that: we have three young Swedish players, one defenseman in [Alexander] Urbom and two young forwards in [Mattias] Tedenby and [Jacob] Josefson, who will be given every opportunity to make this team. We thought he would be just perfect in helping them develop and come along."
At $3.375MM a year, there were differing opinions on the signing all throughout the blogosphere, with some saying it was excessive and others thinking the deal was a bargain. Jordan Leopold might have been a better investment for the money/term -he ended up receiving $3MM/3 years- as he would have helped fill the puck moving defensemen need more than Tallinder. That would have been the better 'statistical' signing. But in an effort to help infuse youth into the team can you put a price on what Tallinder did for Myers last year and what he could do for our top defensive prospect in Alexander Urbom? This move, like the Arnott move, was about making the team better both on and off the ice.
After Martin's departure, Lamoriello's defensive priority this offseason was to sign a true #1 defensive defenseman in Anton Volchenkov. It is clear that Volchenkov was not a replacement for Martin but he was signed to add a defensive presence to the team that has been missing one for a few years. He is not Scott Stevens -even though Lamoriello thinks so- but he will help an inconsistent penalty killing unit (more on this to come in a separate post) and will help to punish forecheckers in the defensive zone. I was pleasantly surprised to see all of the positive comments in this post on the Silver Seven website but to me, this quote is most impressive.
But with the departure of the A-Train means a lot of Senators fans will have their hearts broken. He was an outstanding warrior for the Senators, left everything he had on the ice and rarely had injury problems despite the punishing style he played.
He is a penalty killing force, a guy who can clear the crease and deliver big hits. I have a feeling Devils fans are going to love Volchenkov. Lamoriello wanted to make this defense tougher and after seeing the way the Flyers pushed us around, it was obvious the Devils needed more size and tenacity on the blue line. Similar to his stay in Ottawa, he will lead by example and those leaders are sometimes just as important as locker room voices. Besides all of his abilities he brings on the ice, I feel that his style of play will be infectious among the younger Devils' defensemen like Matthew Corrente and Mark Fraser. Corrente especially, who plays with a high level of energy all game (one of the many reasons he lined up at forward a few times) will have a positive mentor in Volchenkov.
It also brings a top FA to this team, one at a manageable cap rate of $4.25MM a year. While Lamoriello has shown boldness in acquisitions at the trade deadline, July 1st typically was a slower day, unless former Devils were involved. To bring an outside presence to the team, especially to shore up the major part of the last 20 years of success in his defense, is something that hasn't been done in a long time.
Just as our heads were spinning with the Tallinder and Volchenkov signings, it was then reported and confirmed that the Devils signed free agent goaltender Johan Hedberg from the Atlanta Thrashers. Since this is a signing for big dollars for a backup to Martin Brodeur (and also making the total cap hit for the team's goalies at about $6.7MM) it is being said, at least now, that Hedberg will play. Hedberg gives the Devils a quality backup that at 37 years of age, will be accepting of the role of Martin Brodeur's backup. He averaged around 30 games per year played over the last 4 years with the Atlanta Thrashers and I would think the Devils will try to get him into at least 20-25 games. Forcing Brodeur to the bench, at least for a mental break, should have a positive effect on the team. With an experienced backup in Hedberg, the team will also feel that they will have a good chance to win even when Brodeur is not in net. Hedberg will act as a high quality (and cost) insurance policy for Broduer, who is 38, and only two years removed from a major injury.
When Lamoriello said there would be changes to the Devils in the offseason, he certainly was being truthful. More surprisingly the changes are apparently not over with:
Lamoriello said Urbom, a 6-4, 215-pound Stockholm native (same town as Tallinder) is, "our top prospect" and expects him to compete for a spot on the NHL team in training camp.
"I see a couple of these young kids playing pretty quickly," he said. "But I can also see us doing some other things."
Lamoriello also mentioned Matt Corrente is in the defense plans for next season and hinted that a veteran defenseman might be moved.
"There's a lot more to be done," he said.
Right now we have Volchenkov, Greene, Tallinder, Colin White, Bryce Salvador, Mark Fraser, Matthew Corrente, Anssi Salmela and Alexander Urbom in the mix for 6-7 defensive spots this fall. Out of the above the only ones who could or should realistically be moved are Salmela and Salvador.
That said, it would look like Salvador would have to move if there were to be any more major moves. There is only about $4.78MM for the Devils left to add in total salary per Capgeek for 5 roster spots (pending any announcement on Ilya Kovalchuk's status) Those 5 roster spots look to be filled by Urbom, Corrente and either Jacob Josefson or Adam Henrique, (one of whom could make the team). Those roster spots would also include Rod Pelley and Mark Fraser. So unless the Devils go with nine defensemen on the roster there should be additional changes, but how much 'more' can the Devils do and why would they do it?
There will be plenty of speculation (and hopefully action) on that question in the coming days and weeks. One thing that is clear though is that the intent of Lou Lamoriello and the New Jersey Devils this offseason was to both bring talent to this roster and improve the mental makeup of this team. With the three straight first round playoff exits and the issues in the locker room this past season between the Captain and the Coach, change was clearly necessary in New Jersey.
To add a former Captain in Arnott, a tough defensemen in Volchenkov who plays his heart out on the ice and a quality top 4 defensemen in Tallinder who will help develop young prospects all speak to the need to add talent , youth and most importantly some new faces to the New Jersey Devils. Other important steps like, bringing Tedenby and Josefson to training camp to compete for a roster spot, re-signing David Clarkson, providing Brodeur with a quality backup in Johan Hedberg and parting ways with aging veteran Jay Pandolfo should also provide the roster with the turnover needed to be successful in the upcoming season. This team is far removed from those that made deep playoff runs and while some of the players remain (Patrik Elias, Martin Brodeur) the Devils never replaced the leadership qualities of a Scott Stevens, Ken Daneyko or Scott Niedermayer. The older teams may have lost in the first round of the playoffs a few times, but they never quit or put forth such a miserable effort like the 2009-2010 team did. While the acquisitions of Arnott, Tallinder and Volchenkov may not put the Devils over the top when you project the team's performance with advanced statistics, it may add some intangible qualities that we sometimes forget about and it ideally it will allow the team to work as a more cohesive unit.
At this time the free agent status of Ilya Kovalchuk is still up in the air. Whether he re-signs or not change has come to the New Jersey Devils' roster and it was needed and there seems to be more change on the horizon. Lou Lamoriello does everything for a reason and In Lou We Trust, so I am now hoping his many offseason changes provide the Devils with the character they have been lacking.
So what does the community think? Am I reading too much into minor quotes and perception or do you agree the team needed a mental shake up? Sound off below!
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Great summary of the off-season. I mostly agree on everything you said here too. I like Tallinder helping out Urbom and other defenseman. Volchenkov will certainly help out Corrente and hopefully White! Ha. The best thing about Kovalchuk’s decision is that it will help us either way. If he re-signs then great we have another 40+ goal scorer and if he doesn’t we can maybe acquire a puck moving defenseman or sign a 3rd line center. Or even offer a sheet to Staal or some other defenseman out there! But great post on the off-season man. Good work.
Piece by piece we are slowly turning into the 2000 Devils team, anyone up for the A-Line: The Sequel?
by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 10, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions
anyoneelse been watching the playoff series one the nhl network they have been replaying it this week.
the first few games the devils played ok and then fell apart in game 4.i see no other way to go but to changes this team.im very very happy with the defensive changes and the more i think about arnott the more i like it.i really think kovy is gonna be a devil as well the longer he dosnt sighn anywhere the more i think he will stay a devil.im not sure how i feel about that but we will see how it goes.if they had kovy along with the rest of what they have it would make for a powerful scoring team for a devils team.and ofcourse there is the coaching. five stars all the way on those choice,espically robinsion comming back.
by Imperator_Celtic on Jul 10, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
i haven’t been able to bring myself to watch those games over again, but I thought the Devils outplayed the Flyers in the first two games but crumbled quickly after that.
Same here. I went to games 1 and 5 and both of those games were as painful to watch live as I’m sure were painful to experience through television. The only remnant of the 2010 Devils playoff run that I still have is a “Red Alert” T-Shirt given out during game 1. Everything else I’ve chucked as I would like to forget about the miserable run that never was.
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great write-up
Skoula was an absolute mess… We should have never picked him up as he hurt us tremendously on D in the playoffs. I would have like to have seen Corrente get a chance on D in the playoffs. The guy brought high intensity every shift and if you don’t think for a second that if the coaching staff was to say something like, “here’s your chance to make a name for yourself in this organization” that he wouldn’t go out there like a madman? At least we would have had a Devil playing with some heart (not to snub Kovy or Green – Both I felt played with tons of effort)
This was a great write-up on the off-season and made me agree on the speculation of all these changes. Hopefully Arnott will stay healthy and light some fires under the younger players. I’m still left with a sour taste on Langs’ situation as Captain. He really disappointed me last post-season. The games were so hard to watch, let alone attend – geeeesh it was so ugly). I’m looking forward to this next season and the changes that continue to be made. The more Kovy is holding out on signing with a team, the more I feel like we should move on. I have a bad feeling on the long-term financial hit that we would take by signing him.
Last thought… This season will be extremely important for the future of Parise in a Devils uniform. 3 years in a row of 1st round elimination gets frustrating and it’s a must that the Devils don’t exit the season with such a poor performance as last year. It’s one thing to lose and another to defeat yourselves.
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yeah no
It honestly seems like the devils werent ready for anything. No passes in any game were crisp and laviollete made some perfect in game changes unlike lemaire
by kewlnsimpguy on Jul 11, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I’m a glutton for punishment and want to, but:
We all know what happened in April but if you feel like you must, you can re-read about the past season’s early exit here, here and here.
There are no links.
To "resign" is to voluntarily leave a position; retire. To "re-sign" is to sign again. When talking about free agents, please use the correct one.
Hardly a revamped team
So far I would hardly call what we have done “sweeping changes”, but not a static off season either.
if we get Kovalchuk signed I will feel that we have had a pretty succesful offseason. The #2 center issue is resolved, our defense is tougher to play against, and with Kovalchuk signed we will have two of the best lines in hockey. But this is still a big IF until the Kovalchuk issue is resolved.
Should Kovalchuk bolt, we have a hole that is almost impossible to fill, and a diminishing free agent pool to fill it from. Unless we find lightning in a bottle with one of the young guys this free agent waiting game could be the pivotal moment (although a moment that will last at least two weeks) in defining our next campaign.
If Kovy bolts, what hole that's impossible to fill appears?
Consider the roster at the trade deadline before you answer, the #3 LW (because Elias would still be available for being the #2) is really what would be necessary to fill. True Elias+? wouldn’t be as nice as Kovalchuk+?, but I wouldn’t consider it a hole, perhaps a point that could use strengthening (but how many spots don’t need improving, 2 or 3?)
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I hardly think Elias as our number 2 LW is a hole
He’d easily be the #1 LW on 3/4s of the teams in the league.
I think just having Arnott and allowing Elias to slide to a more natural wing position is a big improvement in our second line. If Tedenby is ready to play and can bring some speed and spark to that line, it can be a good line even without Kovalchuk. Adding Kovalchuk, though, would turn our top two lines from “solid” to “monstrous”. Even without him, I think the team has improved offensively. My concern is the ability of our defense to effectively key the transition game and help out the forwards in the offensive end.
So using that logic we should save the cap money and put Elias in that spot. if Lou thought that would work he would have done it already.
My point was that our fall back position would be to add another center and a puck moving defenseman. The two i would have liked would have been Corvo and Malholtra, who have since signed else where. So the longer this drags out the less likely we can make up his offense in other ways.
No
Elias is up in 3 years, why not lock up the top two LW in the east NOW, let Elias move over to offwing.
There’s no hole in our #2 LW, it’s merely who’s there gives us plenty of options to bolster our offense by either shifting him over or even down.
Also what is this obsession with Joe Corvo with some people on here? Has Lou ever brought in a strictly offensive defensemen before? Last year was the first time with Cory Murphy and it didn’t work out well. I’d rather not signs a guy like Corvo for 2-3 mill and just give Corrente, Urbom or Salmela the Opportunity to fill that role.
agreed
Corvo lacks defensive skills and that a defenseman’s primary role. I’d love to see Corrente get more playing time on D this year and hopefully Urbom will develop quickly and impact the team, pending he earns a spot.
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moreover
also, Mike Green is a perfect example of why defense comes first. You can put up high numbers on offense, but in the end it’s the goals against that counts most. If you can’t cut it in your own end of the ice then you’re not as valuable as a defensive defenseman.
There are solid puck-moving defensemen that may not put up that many points, but that’s where the forwards are held accountable. Another reason why I like the moves made thus far and would be excited if Kovy ends up staying (pending it doesn’t hurt us tremendously in the piggy bank)
"You're next" - Scott Stevens
According to NHL fanhouse which can be found on right column of this page about halfway down is that our Devils have offered Kovy a 17yr 100+ million contract if thats true and he signs its more than safe to say alot more changes are coming.
Now don’t go speculating to much but supposedly he will decide in next few days. Hmm where have I heard that before.
by KingHellfire on Jul 10, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
nowhere. We’d heard he was going to decide that day :-)
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I was being more generalized in regards to him making a decision soon.
by KingHellfire on Jul 10, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
somewhere between zero and none?
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yes xcellent summary and in my opinion we are a better team now than last season. I agree that we will be moving either Salvador or Zubrus to free up cap space even if we don’t sign Kovy. This team needed much needed boost of size and character and this was done with the moves in July. I hope we can rotate a few of the kids during the season until we settle on the ones that we think will contribute this year.
great write-up
Skoula was an absolute mess… We should have never picked him up as he hurt us tremendously on D in the playoffs. I would have like to have seen Corrente get a chance on D in the playoffs. The guy brought high intensity every shift and if you don’t think for a second that if the coaching staff was to say something like, "here’s your chance to make a name for yourself in this organization" that he wouldn’t go out there like a madman? At least we would have had a Devil playing with some heart (not to snub Kovy or Green – Both I felt played with tons of effort)
This was a great write-up on the off-season and made me agree on the speculation of all these changes. Hopefully Arnott will stay healthy and light some fires under the younger players. I’m still left with a sour taste on Langs’ situation as Captain. He really disappointed me last post-season. The games were so hard to watch, let alone attend – geeeesh it was so ugly). I’m looking forward to this next season and the changes that continue to be made. The more Kovy is holding out on signing with a team, the more I feel like we should move on. I have a bad feeling on the long-term financial hit that we would take by signing him.
Last thought… This season will be extremely important for the future of Parise in a Devils uniform. 3 years in a row of 1st round elimination gets frustrating and it’s a must that the Devils don’t exit the season with such a poor performance as last year. It’s one thing to lose and another to defeat yourselves.
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changes
not that anyone would care, but i’ve decided the devils should give kovulchuk a deadline and when that is not met, withdraw the offer, i don’t think i want them to sign him anyway, they’ll have get rid of lavador and zubrus just to sign him, get little or nothing in return for those moves and even then might not have enough money to re-sign parise, so i think it is time to cut bait and move on, maybe the rangers can sign him and find out that they are unable to make moves due to lack of cap space for the next decade
by don in central jersey on Jul 11, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
maybe the rangers can sign him
First off, the last team I’d want Kovy to sign with would be the Rangers. I personally feel that if Lou can find a way to make it work, then he should try to sign him. At what cost? That is the question. I’d give up Salvador and Zubrus to make cap space for Kovy. If it meant Parise not re-signing then it’s an absolute no. If there is anyone who knows how to figure these numbers out and how to make them work for the better of the organization it’s Lou.
"You're next" - Scott Stevens
Kovalchuk gets the time he wants to make a decision, because he is a unique talent among UFAs, past and present, and because there is nothing out there that can adequately replace him. It isn’t like there’s any significant hurry; training camp isn’t for several weeks, yet, and the Devils would have even longer than that to straighten out their cap.
If you let Kovalchuk walk because he wants time to make his decision and play the market, how are you planning on replacing his offense? Parise can be depended on for 30-40 goals, and you can probably expect 20-25 from Zajac, Elias, Arnott, Langenbrunner…. but how are you replacing Kovy’s goal-scoring (six 40-goal seasons in the league and counting) and contributions (point-a-game, both regular season and playoffs with this club)? The Devils offense hasn’t exactly been world-class the last several years…. I doubt they’re getting any closer to that benchmark without him, no matter who you plug in.
As far as Salvador and Zubrus go…. so what if we trade them away for draft picks or minor leaguers that provide organizational depth? Is Bryce Salvador really that good? Did anyone really notice him in the Philly series, or in general? As for Dainius Zubrus…. what exactly has he provided in return for what he’s been paid the last three years? You see flashes of what he could be, but he’s never put it together over the long term. 215 games, 38 goals, 67 assists…. a whopping 105 points, or just beneath 0.5 points per game (40-41 points for a full season). Beyond that, he’s given you three consecutive playoff series with one point for the entire series. I don’t know about you, but I think I can live without paying $3.4 million for that contribution, when you could get one of the “kids” to give you the same thing at a fraction of the cost.
might not have enough money to re-sign parise
There’s plenty of money to re-sign Parise and Andy Greene. Right now, the two have a combined hit of $3.9 million. After this season, you lose the following contracts — Arnott ($4.5m), Langenbrunner ($2.8m), Hedberg ($1.5m). Even if you factor in replacements for all three at an average of $1m each (awfully high if you anticipate kids taking those spots), you’ve picked up $6 million in cap space to give to the two of them. If you give Parise $7 million per season, you’ve still got extra cap space to play with for Andy Greene, Anssi Salmela, or whomever else you’d like to keep around.
I agree on your reasoning to keep Kovalchuk. Especially now that we are a solid defensive team, we need more offense. That was our ongoing problem last season and if we can add a 40+ goal scorer it will only make us a better team.
Everyone is so concerned with adding an offensive defenseman, but what happened to the accountability of offense producing offense? You can have puck-moving defensemen that may not score goals, but it doesn’t mean they don’t produce offense. Andy Green is a great example of this, not to mention that he did put up points last year — Also, the only defenseman I felt played well in the post-season. He looked great and I think he’ll only get better this year. I said in an earlier post that the main priority of defense is to play defense. If our offense lacks scoring then add more of a scoring threat on offense, i.e. Kovalchuk.
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Personally I think it takes all five guys on the ice to produce an offensive juggernaut and I think the Devils’ lack of offensive ability on the backend will hurt their forwards’ ability to score significantly. But when it comes to trying to upgrade the offensive output of the current Devils team, it’s a lot easier to bring in one guy like Kovalchuk than to try to replace the entire defense corps with great two-way defensemen.
what about Green and Tallinder. Both are good puck-moving defenseman. We saw last year that Green can put points up. This year he’ll be looked upon for more of an offensive role now that Martin is gone. I feel confident with him. He was the only defenseman in the post-season that I saw stuck out – yes, more so than Martin. I agree that 5 guys produce offense, but like you’ve mentioned, I’d rather re-sing Kovalchuk to give us an offensive edge. Our defense is solid with the addition of Volchenkov and Tallinder even with the loss of Martin.
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you’ve picked up $6 million in cap space to give to the two of them. If you give Parise $7 million per season, you’ve still got extra cap space
Problem is, if the Devils give Kovy an extravagant amount, that’s more ammunition for Parise to demand more from the team. Hopefully Lou will do the smart thing and sign Zach to a lifetime deal for a lower cap hit. But if Kovy can demand and get something north of $9 million a year for 10 yrs plus some extra years to lower the cap hit, what says Zach can’t demand a similar contract? Zach will be the same age next summer as Kovy is this year, they’re similarly productive except that Kovy has been doing it for a few more years, and arguably Zach is more valuable to the team.
I’ve thought about this possibility of giving a deadline, and have concluded it’s a risky move. Obviously you don’t feel strongly that the Devils should sign Kovalchuk, but as has been stated by others, it would completely change the offensive potency of the team. From Lou’s perspective, since he (or at least his boss, Jeff Vanderbeek, wants him back, it doesn’t make much sense to give him a deadline before the start of training camp. It’s a gamble, and he could get his bluff called on him. Rather than give him a hard deadline, I hope Lou is playing some real hardball with his agent. There are NO other suitors, period. His cap hit needs to be less than 7.5 and I don’t care whether it’s a short deal, long deal, or lifetime deal, but Lou shouldn’t budge from that stance. There’s no other contending team that is willing to give him that money for any extended period of time, and if they haven’t appeared a week into free agency, they’re not going to suddenly appear now.
Obviously you don’t feel strongly that the Devils should sign Kovalchuk
who are you directing that towards?
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darenmillard via twitter ; Kovy-gate comes 2 an end tomorrow. Kings win the process.. Don’t want announcment 2 get overshadowed by WC.
interesting….
The speculation still runs rampant I have noticed.
by KingHellfire on Jul 11, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ways to keep Kovy and Parise
As Devils fan I would be very disapointed if the Devils fail to sign Kovy. But at the same time I would be disappointed if we let Parise go next year.
Kovy showed a lot more heart than most of the other Devils players in the playoffs he was just inches from scoring in key moments many times, if the other Devils played with the same intensity they would have crushed Philly.
Also if Kovalchuk signs with the Devils, it would force Lou to trim some fat. Get rid of players like Rolston and White who are overpaid but could still be moved. Teams like LA, STL, the Isles, the Avs, and EDM who have a strong young core but need those veteran players as influences in the locker room would trade for them, they wouldn’t trade much but I think that it would be worth it for NJ. A third round pick for Rolston and maybe a prospect for White. They could even throw in Salvador in one of those deals to get more in return. That would free up over 8 mil for the Devils. They could even trade Langenbrunner for a decent puck moving defenseman then. Kaberle anybody? Brian Burke loves Langenbrunner and is looking for a Top 6 forward for Kaberle. Picture these top threelines on O and D for the Devils next year.
Parise-Zajac-Zubrus
Kovy-Arnott-Elias
Zharkov-Pelley-Clarkson
Kaberle-Volchenkov
Tallinder-GreeneUrbom-Salvador/Corrente
Brodeur
Hedberg
That is a dominant team in either conference. Even without Kaberle its a dominant team. specially now that they have hired John Maclean as head coach and brought back Robinson. Imagine Scott Stevens teaching Volchenkov all his tricks.
Zubrus was solid at the end of the last season, I would like to see if that carries over into the next season. Also he provides a bit of size to the Parise-Zajac combo. Furthermore, by trading Langenbrunner for Kaberle, we have an excellent shot at winning the cup next year. Kaberle has one year left on his contract. So we could either allow him to walk next year or sign him if Greene doesn’t continue his great play. Who knows last season might have been his only good one. If we let Kaberle walk, we will have enough cap space to resign Parise and Greene.
What do you think?
Get rid of players like Rolston and White who are overpaid but could still be moved.
No they can’t, no they can’t, no they can’t. Both have NTCs (along with Langenbrunner) and no reason to want to leave.
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by John Fischer on Jul 11, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think NTCs will be a problem if Lou wants to move them. Not many people would willingly stay where they aren’t wanted. Furthermore, they may be frustrated with certain aspects of Devil hockey, ex: Rolston might want to play on a team with a more offensive focus. I bet they would all except trades to a few teams, and I believe that Lou is a great GM capable of making the right deals for both the players and the team.
by hockeykid304 on Jul 11, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
A no-trade clause is a problem for teams negotiating trades. Just ask Edmonton how happy they were about a NTC after the Dany Heatley debacle last summer. If I’m an opposing GM, I don’t even begin to discuss acquiring someone with a NTC unless I know it is going to be waived in advance.
Take your theoretical case that “Devil A” will waive his NTC for a handful of teams. That leaves the player with the hammer — he dictates where he’ll accept a deal, which effectively removes a large chunk of the market from discussion. If Lou doesn’t have the leverage to shop all 29 other teams (ok, 27, because he probably won’t trade with NYR or Philly), he doesn’t have a reasonable way to extract maximum value for the team.
As for Rolston, what he wants is probably not an issue here. Another team isn’t going to take that contract off the Devils’ hands unless the Devils take a contract equally as bad or worse. For better or for worse, the Devils are probably stuck with him — nobody else is going to take a $5 million cap hit, a full NTC (in case he doesn’t fit in there and the receiving team wants to move on), and a 35+ clause all rolled into one when the player is clearly on the decline and not worth close to what he is making.
You forgot about Lou’s Jedi Mind trick…
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by slackdog_rm on Jul 11, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That is true, but sometimes it is worth it to make a trade even if you don’t get maximum value. In the cases of these hypothetical trades, the reward is less of what you receive in terms of players, prospects, and picks, and more about the additional cap room you have at your disposal.
But on the Rolston matter, you are right. But you can’t blame me for wanting to get rid of him, I guess its a foolish hope.
by hockeykid304 on Jul 11, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It is fine to make trades where you don’t extract maximum value for a player for one reason or another — freeing up salary cap space or roster spots for the “kids” are both sound reasons for doing so. It is another thing altogether to make trades that require a Jedi Mind Trick (or blackmail) to get the other GM to agree, or to make a trade complete with unicorns running around and pixies flitting here to there.
Right now, Brian Rolston’s contract ensures he has no trade value whatsoever. I’d go as far as to say that if the Devils put Rolston on waivers, he’d go unclaimed, similar to when Edmonton put Sheldon Souray on waivers July 1st. To put it another way, teams won’t take him (and that contract) even if they get it for free. Therefore, there’s no point in discussing trading him, because the Devils would either have to part with other assets or take a problem contract in return to do it. The latter does the team absolutely no good in terms of a cap situation, while the former is possible but gets very expensive after a while.
Many of us here would like to be rid of Brian Rolston and his contract. There are other Devils with no-trade clauses in the same boat (mostly Colin White, although there are some who wish to oust Langenbrunner). However, wishing does not make it so. We’re stuck with Rolston (and White). Deal with it.
And if the Devils keep Kovy they don’t have a greater offensive focus?
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