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Ilya Kovalchuk Re-signs with New Jersey Devils: Initial Thoughts on the New Team Issues

The big news today is certainly, well, massive. The New Jersey Devils have re-signed Ilya Kovalchuk.  The signing is so big, the Devils will actually have a press conference tomorrow it.  I can't recall the last time the Devils had a press conference for a player being signed to the team.

I'm going to forthright, I'm not fully excited about the deal.   As far back as May, I made the case that while Kovalchuk's talent is unquestionable and there's some evidence he isn't so awful on defense, to re-sign him will present serious problems on the roster both in terms of position and cap space.  That is, it would be more trouble than he's worth.  As time went on, I re-iterated that point after the recent Mikko Koivu extension. Re-signing Kovalchuk could make it so financially difficult for the Devils given what Zach Parise and Travis Zajac could demand down the line that it would be better to forget about the Russian sniper.   Not to mention that goal scorers don't tend to remain goal scorers much later in their career, per this sobering post by Quisp at Jewels from the Crown.  So I'm not 100% behind this deal.  I don't hate it, but what happens next will affect how I feel about this contract.

That said, the contract details are still up in the air, so I can't confidently commit to whether I think this was a good deal with flaws or a bad deal that I hope Lou can salvage.   CapGeek's currently showing $102 million over 17 years, though that's not confirmed yet (and perhaps not even by the NHL yet, but I wouldn't worry).  UPDATE:  Tom Gulitti confirms that it is indeed the official deal registered with the NHLPA.  Still not approved yet by the NHL.

That's not a bad cap hit at all.  Still, I have more than a few thoughts about what Lou, John MacLean and the coaches, the other players, and Kovalchuk himself will have to do going forward this summer now that the signing is official.   This will likely be the last major signing by the Devils this summer, but it's far from the last major move the Devils will have to make.

 

Star-divide

 

A Related Aside: Take any, if not all, Internet reports with a grain of salt

Go back to the first week of June to when the Devils didn't have a head coach hired.  Various posts from various people got Devils fans up in arms about how Michel Therrien was going to be named the next Devils head coach.  The original source of the news seemed to be William DePaoli of Inside Pittsburgh Sports on Twitter.  I went through his tweets in conjunction with the other articles online to create a timeline and concluded that it wasn't a done deal as people had assumed.  

No disrespect to DePaoli, I'm sure his sources had information and it is his job to pass that along.  Yet, it turned out that Therrien wasn't named the head coach of the Devils.  On June 17, John MacLean was hired and formally introduced to the team.   The reports that got fans excited earlier turned out to be false.

With Kovalchuk, the madness and amount of reports later becoming false or not quite correct skyrocketed.  Just look at the comments of so many of the free agency open threads where tweets or reports about what Kovalchuk was doing (e.g. July 3-4, July 6)  My personal favorite came on July 5 where Mark Everson's report was spread all over the place only to turn out to be meaningless.  More recently, Gulitti had this round up that showed all signs pointing Kovalchuk to LA on July 16.  Clearly, those turned out to be all for naught.

I fully understand the interest: Kovalchuk was the biggest name on the market and there wasn't much action going on.  I understand that being first is a big deal in the world of journalism.  I understand everyone has their sources and for all I know,  they are legitimate people with legitimate news.   Still, what I take out of this whole ordeal is that internet news should be taken with a grain of salt, but stay cautious until something official actually confirms it.  This not only applies to the contract details for Kovalchuk but future news, in my opinion.  Call it skepticism but a lot of frustration over this story would have been avoided with some more patience and disbelief by all parties involved.

GM and Roster Issues

OK, back to the Devils themselves. Contract details aren't official as of now, but per Gulitti, it appears to be a $102 million, 17 year deal. Even if it's not the exact amount or length, I'd be shocked if the deal wasn't A) long and B) front-loaded to reduce the overall cap hit.  That's quite shrewd, if not necessary, by Lou.  The Devils are basically in a "sell" mode unless it's revealed that Ilya Kovalchuk took a lot less money than people are saying.   Since that's about as likely as a unicorn showing up at butcher's tomorrow, the Devils will need to clear some kind of cap space.  The lower the cap hit, the less Lou has to clear.  With a $6 million/year cap hit, that would be at least $1.8 million.

Some people aren't happy about the supposed front-loaded contract, but all I have to say is: don't hate the player, hate the game.   The CBA assigns cap hits by average value and doesn't have term limits on contracts.  The Devils aren't going around the salary cap ceiling or floor, so I don't see how this would be a circumvention.  Other teams have done this (e.g. Chicago with Marian Hossa), and if anyone is clever enough to exploit the CBA, it's Lou Lamoriello.  Clearly, Jeff Vanderbeek is willing to drop the coin, Lou's confident in the committment, and Kovalchuk and his people support the deal by signing it.  It's win-win-win for all involved, so what others think is essentially pointless.  Get a GM who's willing to be creative with the CBA instead of following a meaningless "spirit of the rule."

Going forward won't be a win-win situation for New Jersey, though.  Given that everyone in the hockey world knows that Lou has signed Kovalchuk, he no longer has much leverage to dump any contracts.  Some draft picks or prospects may have to be dumped along with heavy contracts just to make the deals happen at all.   When you consider that the Devils still need another center and will need at least one defenseman to start the season to fill in for an injured Anssi Salmela, moving prospects now would hurt the Devils both now and in the long term. Lou has to clear more than just Kovalchuk's contract, but the deals of others who are going to take those spots.  Trading just Bryce Salvador away isn't the answer. I'd expect some unlikeable deals to clear cap space in the weeks to come; I can only hope they are not truly awful.

Basically, Lou's big challenge will be fitting the team under the cap while having quality players across the board.

I'm sure some Devils fans will immediately point to this report by Gulitti and this one by Rich Chere about how Brian Rolston knows his deal is hurting the Devils cap-wise, so why not trade him?  I seriously doubt that will happen.  First, who is going to take a $5 million/year cap hit for the next 2 years for a guy who isn't a top 2-line winger anymore?  Second, Rolston still has a No Trade Clause.  As far as we know, it's not a limited NTC where he has a list of teams he'll allow a trade for.  Rolston will get his money no matter if he does well in New Jersey, does poorly in New Jersey, if he's sent down to Albany, if he's hurt, or even if he retires.  Given that this team still has plenty of talent, I don't see the incentive for Rolston to want to go anywhere else.

Basically, the Devils are still stuck with Rolston as well as Colin White, Jason Arnott, Johan Hedberg, Jamie Langenbrunner, Martin Brodeur and Patrik Elias - all of whom have no trade clauses except for Elias who has a no movement clause.  Not that you'd want to move most of those players anyway: Arnott and Hedberg are expiring after this year, Elias and Brodeur are too good to dump.   Expect them to stay unless they really want out (and I doubt that), is my main point.

Again, it is nothing short of a gargantuan challenge for any GM to manage dumping salary without hurting the team too much and while keeping options over for re-signing other Devils (Parise - and he needs to stay a Devil - he is a beast).  I trust in Lou.  If anyone can do all of this, it's him.  And if he does somehow pull this all off, then it'll further his position as the best GM in sports.

Coaching & Other Player Issues

Anyway, moving forward in questions: what does John MacLean and the coaching staff plan to do?  Sure, he's pleased about the signing per Chere; but he's ultimately the one who has to decide the lines and tactics for each game.  So many questions come to mind:  Does Parise stay up on the first line or does Kovalchuk take that spot?  What do you do with Elias?  Do you consider moving one of these three top-end left wings to the off-wing?   Does MacLean allow Kovalchuk to take longer shifts on the power play as well as in general? Do you have assistants work on Kovalchuk's defense?  

MacLean and the coaching staff may feel pleased to have the "problem" of an elite sniper on their roster, but if they can't answer these questions properly, Kovalchuk won't be utilized to his full potential which will hurt the team overall.

One good positive about the signing that I feel some may have overlooked is that Kovalchuk is returning to a team  that mostly played with him last season.  They know what he's about and what his tendencies are, so it's not like there will be a "settling in" period for either side. 

Still, Rolston's quotes today to Gulitti and this post by Chere about Dainius Zubrus' reaction (he likes the deal, but focus on the trade issue) raise a larger point in my mind.  The Devils players know someone's getting traded to make room for Kovalchuk and others.  The thought of being traded away is definitely unsettling and it would completely affect a player's performance.  Fortunately, Lou will have to make those tough decisions before the season.  Plus, should the contract deals truly be $102 million/17 years; the $6 million cap hit wouldn't put Kovalchuk that much ahead of most of his teammates' cap hits.

Yet, if players traded were well-liked by his teammates to the point where they felt he was a key part of the team, expect friction to arise when the team doesn't do so well.  Both the players and coaches will have to work hard to avoid this signing to turn out to be some kind of sticking point of discontent.

At least, Zach Parise is happy about the signing per Gulitti. (Related aside:  In that same post, note that Langenbrunner will also be at the press conference; further reason to believe he's "safe" beyond just having a NTC.)

Back to Kovalchuk

Of course, a lot of pressure now falls on the man of the hour himself.  Ilya Kovalchuk has made an NHL career of being a goal scoring machine.  He's got 338 goals and 304 assists in 638 games off of 2,289 shots on goal.  His career shooting percentage is an amazing 14.8%.   Kovalchuk will be expected to maintain that high level of production for at least the next 5 years or so.   We're talking at least 40-goal, 80-point seasons.   Many will forgive any shortcomings on defense if the offense is present and it helps win games, but his errors will stick out ever more given he'll be around for a long, long time.

I'm expecting even more from Kovalchuk, though.  He says he wants to succeed. Great.  Work on your defense. Work on your breakouts.  Get together with your teammates and listen to what they want you to do.  I want Kovalchuk to be the model player, looking to improve his game as well as cooperating with his fellow players.   If asked to move to right wing, then do so without question.  I'm not asking him to emulate Parise; but he's going to be a Devil for a long time to come, and so I want him take it to the next level.  Steve Lepore's taking it further - perhaps justifiably so - that the Devils need to win right away with Kovalchuk. All the more reason to expect more from the sniper.

I've cast my doubts on whether the Devils should re-sign Kovalchuk because of the roster and cap issues any re-signing would create.  I've never doubted his talent nor have I claimed that he was a "bad fit" in New Jersey in this past season.  Kovalchuk can definitely be a great Devil.  With this deal, I want him to do just that. In fact, the team's official website is advertising Kovalchuk already - so the Devils certainly expect greatness right from the get-go.  The time for talk is just about over.  Get your family up and settled in New Jersey, and get to work to being the next great hockey player in Devils red, Ilya.

Your Reaction

As usual, I had more than just a few thoughts.  Though, that should be expected because A) I tend to be long like that and B) this is such a big deal that it can't be crammed into just a few paragraphs.  The too long, didn't read version is basically:  It may turn out good, but I'm not fully sold on it yet.  There are too many issues and questions that will have to be addressed that could alter how we see this move.  Lou was very bold to re-sign Kovalchuk, that's for sure.  I'll continue to trust him and hope his boldness will be rewarded.

Now I want to know what you think.  What among all of these issues concern you the most about the Kovalchuk signing?  How do you truly feel about the signing? Would you feel better if the contract turned out to be worth $102 million/17 year deal - resulting in a $6 million cap hit?  What are your expectations for Kovalchuk for the coming seasons?  Please leave your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for reading.

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How do you feel about the New Jersey Devils re-signing Ilya Kovalchuk?
I love it! The cap hit, the fact he's here for a while, everything!
286 votes
I like it. It's not perfect, but overall, I'm glad he's staying
329 votes
I'm in the middle. What happens next could change my mind.
132 votes
I don't like it. I don't hate him but I didn't want Kovalchuk back
30 votes
I hate it! Why couldn't he have gone to LA or even the KHL?
26 votes

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i picked the 2nd option so far
i dont think its 6mill, ya 102/17=6 but that doesnt mean anything, he could make 10mill X year and 7.5 X years ect..
we wont know until the final contract is done and NHl agrees to it, since this contract is 17year, highest one ever..they need to look at it

points, since he has a centerman to play with Kovy-anott-elias, i could say 95points, maybe even 100 since by the look, we could be a offensive team this year

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The NHL has agreed on it.

17 years for 102 million.

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 19, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Gift Or Albatross?

Being the New Jersey Devils fan that I have been for the past fifteen years now, I’m used to Lou and the organization pulling certain things. Familiar things. One of these things was bringing back players that used to be the team (Lou loves doing this). Another was signing players to respectably sized contracts, and never overpaying for quality.

This signing will shatter the typical standard of what Lou has done pretty much his entire career with New Jersey.

And it’s a little bit mind-blowing to thing about all of it. Kovalchuk is, hands down, a stud in this league. He’s scored more goals since 2001 than any other player in the NHL. The guy is entering his prime and will be giving us something no other player ever has: a potentially 90+ point machine on a yearly basis.

But will a seventeen year contract prove to restrict the Devils ability to make big changes in their roster for years to come? I supposed it really comes down to the average salary per year. But regardless, this concept of signing a huge free agent to a very long contract and having a press conference for the occasion is foreign to the Devils organization and always has been.

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

With the terms of the contract now official, I must say…I am quite impressed at how Lou pulled all of this off. For 17 years at 102 million, that is a mere 6 million dollars a year in cap hit. For perhaps the best sniper in the league. The cost of the contract picks up in two years and dwindles down to basically nothing towards the end. Excellent work by Lou.

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is this proof that its been official of the 6mill/year?..besides gapgeek

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not completely

Per TG, emphasis mine:

I have been able to officially confirm that Ilya Kovalchuk’s new contract with the Devils is for 17 seasons and a total of $102 million. The deal has been registered with the NHL Players’ Association, but has not yet been approved by the league, yet.

The NHL has five days to approve the contract. A source said there didn’t appear to be any reason why the NHL wouldn’t approve the deal.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chere says it's official

here

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec for Albatross

If I only had a nickel for every time someone made an NHL to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner comparison I would have…ummm…five cents.

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by HELLAWAITS on Jul 19, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may be a Swallow…But is that an African a European Swallow?

by Dr. Witticism on Jul 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, that should read “OR a European Swallow.”

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by Dr. Witticism on Jul 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although I truly like the signing, I come at it with trepidation. I believe the biggest issue, in all honesty, is where Kovy fits in the lineup. Putting any one of Kovalchuk, Parise, or Elias outside of the Top-6 is unacceptable to me. Which means, someone floats to the right side, and I think its safe to assume that player is Patrik. Is Elias a happy camper playing the right? Will the line of Kovalchuk-Arnott-Elias be the top line, will they be a line at all?
Thru it all though, I am excited about the signing, and I think that Lou showed us all something in making something this big happen. The terms of the contract has the ability to alter what people may think about the signing. If the terms are what has been reported, Im very happy about the Contract.
I think Kovalchuk HAS to be a 45-goal scorer each year to be viewed as a Regular Season success AND be so productive come Playoffs that anything short of the Stanley Cup cannot be attributed to him. We cannot lose because of him, his contract, the players that are traded away, or his perceived Cap-causing problem.
All that said, I think Kovalchuk can deliver what is expected and needed from him and what comes with a 17-year contract.

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by Skuba7 on Jul 19, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Elias more on the right than at center, and I’d guess that might be an easier change for him or anyone.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lou

is definitely making New Jersey a Cup contender again. Signing Kovalchuk makes the trade (Bergforgs, Oduya, etc) worthwhile. He found a way around the CBA to give Kovy the money he wanted without it severely impacting the salary cap. $6M/yr is very reasonable. Since the contract ends whenever Kovy retires, it truly is a win-win for everyone.

This will NOT impact re-signing Parise. Lou has shown that he will do whatever it takes to keep talent on the team, so I have no worries about Parise leaving. Best case scenario, Lou signs Parise to an extension before next offseason to avoid having to match an offer sheet. Worst case scenario, Lou matches an offer sheet. With over $7M coming off the cap next year there will be room.

by njdss4 on Jul 19, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Top Two Lines

The Devils now basically have TWO top lines. Parise/Zajac/Langenbrunner and Elias/Arnott/Kovalchuk. Could we be seeing the second incarnation of the A Line? I think so.

by njdss4 on Jul 19, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ilya Kovalchuk >>>>> Petr Sykora

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alas, we don’t have the Elias and Arnott of 2000 and 2001…. but the current Elias is still pretty gosh darn good, and Arnott has produced consistently in Nashville. They won’t be the A-Line we all reminisce fondly about at the old-age home, but they’ll be a nice facsimile.

by acasser on Jul 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw man, and if we still had bergfors we could have put out a line of tedenby-josefson-bergfors. the Swedish Meatballs. You’d come to see IKEA but you’d stay for the Swedish Meatballs!

by dr(d)evil on Jul 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 19, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love it

Kovy showed me to he is a great player and has great heart – frankly he was the only one trying to win in the playoffs, Langs was nowhere to be found.

Honestly, I would get rid of Langs and Rolston if possible, i know it’s not likely but one of them has to go – Also, get rid of salvador – I like salmela, and the 2 defenseman we got thru signings, don’t know about Skoula if he can gotten for cheap then no problem. We need another puck moving defenseman though – a Power Play specialist..

Forget Fraser – the guy is not ready for the NHL. if Souray came back for cheap that would be great as well. I’ve always liked him, but his injury is obviously a concern.

As for the lines – definitely Arnott and Elias together no question, if Sykora came back for 500 K that would be sweet, but again dreaming.

Parise and Zajac w/ Zubrus – not a bad line during the season, or put Clarkson with them, and make a Russian line w/ Zharkov, Zubrus, and Kovy – that would be sick

Elias, Arnott, and if Rolly is still here put him there.

as for third line? give the young guys a shot w/ Rod Pelley and Langs (if he is still here) carrying the line.
4th line – Crash line any suggestions by people.

D pairings.
Volchenkov Greene
White Tallinder
Salmela Skoula (I wish Martin stayed – he had size, puck moving ability, and offensive sense)

Fraser as a reserve and other young prospects.

by bdevil89 on Jul 19, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't Skoula gone to play in the KHL?

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by JSLandry on Jul 20, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Skoula has signed with the KHL, Salmela is currently hurt, wont be starting the season

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

My projected roster

Parise/Zajac/Langs
Kovy/Arnott/Elias
Tedenby/Henrique*/Zubrus
Palmeri/Josefson*/Vasyunov

D
Volchenkov/Greene
Tallinder/White or Urbom
Salmela/White or Urbom

G
MB
Hedberg

  • Interchangeable

by NJD28 on Jul 19, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

clarkson? zharkov? pelley? PL3?

by dr(d)evil on Jul 19, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

zubrus? salavador/ frazier?

by pepe22 on Jul 19, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple changes get them more than halfway there

If they can trade Salvador for a minimum priced player, or draft pick(s), re-sign Fraser at $700K (I found an arbitration ruling from a couple years ago that I think is a reasonable corollary) and Use Eckford (he of the “I’ll take $550K to help the team”) and take Salmela off the roster, since he’ll be injured, they have 20 players and 460K of cap space. No extra players, but hence the “halfway there” qualifier. Still something needs to be done, but 2 drastic moves may not be necessary. Using hte new capgeek calculator:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($3.125m) / Travis Zajac ($3.887m) / Jamie Langenbrunner ($2.800m)
Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.000m) / Jason Arnott ($4.500m) / Patrik Elias ($6.000m)
Brian Rolston ($5.062m) / Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) / David Clarkson ($2.666m)
Vladimir Zharkov ($0.850m) / Rod Pelley ($0.550m) / P-L Letourneau-Leblond ($0.525m)

DEFENSEMEN
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Andy Greene ($0.737m)
Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Mark Fraser ($0.700m)
Colin White ($3.000m) / Tyler Eckford ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($5.200m) /Johan Hedberg ($1.500m)

BUYOUTS: Jay Pandolfo ($0.833m) / Andrew Peters ($0.166m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,679,167; BONUSES: $740,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $460,833

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

what about 13th forward and 7th defenseman? kind of risky to not carry an extra player, what if someone comes down with a stomach bug the day of the game? or tweaks his knee getting out of bed?

by dr(d)evil on Jul 19, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No extra players, but hence the "halfway there" qualifier.

I guess you missed this line.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 20, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The ONLY thing I hate about this signing is...

That it brings out the fair weather fans who have no understanding on:
1) how salary caps and the CBA work.
2) What a NTC/NMC is.
3) Who’s actually on the roster and what position they play when inventing their own lines.

I’m sorry of I’m being snobby, just a real pet peeve.

by Zelepukin on Jul 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, if you're nice, you can educate them...

But I ultimately agree. People complaining about he signed for 17 years forget that he can retire much sooner and the whole cap hit goes off the books.

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by John Fischer on Jul 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im with John on this one, its kind of frustrating, but you as an educated fan, can show them the way. As for other teams’ fans, you can forget about it for the time being. Reading Yahoo! and TSN blogs, all you read is ‘haters’ talk about how Parise must go now and that Kovalchuk has never won anything and will be a bust in 3 years and will be playing in the KHL in 5 years and so on.
Give it til the season and Kovy starts scoring, things will go better.

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

not mine I hopeis what triggered this? The only stretch I see is having Elias at RW #2, which seems to be a pretty common theory. OK, I may have Zharkov and Leblond reversed…

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not you sir, look further up

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would prefer to get rid of rolston by any means necessary. and while you might think that rolston doesn’t want to go anywhere, he might want to try to be a top 6 forward somewhere else, and there are places that would give him a shot to do it.

two trade scenarios i’ve cooked up, although they’ve been discussed ad nauseam over at njdevs:

brian rolston and a 2011 1st round pick to anaheim for jason blake. this deal would work great, the devils would buy blake out and save 3.6 million off the cap for the next 2 years. they would add 1.3 million to the cap for the two years after that.

brian rolston and bryce salvador and a 1st round pick for brendan witt. witt would be buried in the minor leagues or could even be bought out if vanderbeek wanted to save some money.

with kovalchuk here, that basically ends rolston’s time on the PP point. he’s going to be a 3rd line player with minimal power play time. i don’t think that’s what rolston signed up for. based on his quotes today, he’s not too thrilled with the kovalchuk signing.

by Triumph44 on Jul 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

If I traded a FIRST ROUND draft pick and a possible TOP 6 FORWARD, I would want more in return than a buyout and/or a Minor leaguer…. But that’s just me.

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by Michael Gianetti on Jul 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 1st rounder will be near the bottom. and that rolston contract is beyond bad, it’s one of the worst in the league. i don’t like it much either but i would much prefer zubrus over rolston, and whatever it takes to make that happen, lou should do.

by Triumph44 on Jul 19, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I’m giving Anaheim a #1 to take Rolston off my hands, I want something better than a problem contract (Blake) in return. I’d sooner do what Philadelphia just did with Gagne (I know, I know, a better player) and take a depth bum like Kyle Chipchura in return. He could either make it as a 4th liner, or be exiled to Albany, all without costing the team a small fortune.

Historical precedent: The Devils used a #1 to get San Jose to take Vladimir Malakhov’s deal, in return for (if I recall correctly) a non-American prospect that wasn’t going to come over to play in the NHL and likely wouldn’t have turned into anything significant if he had.

Now, Rolston’s deal is harder to swallow, but I still don’t see a reason to take back that bad a contract in return if I’m giving up a high pick/prospect as well.

by acasser on Jul 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Chipchura would probably make the team as the checking center. I have a buddy that is a Ducks fan and they all seem to love the guy.

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 20, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else as worried as I am that the NHL may not approve the contract?

by kellyn on Jul 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

No

While it might be in some of the gray areas, if was specifically against the rules, Lou wouldn’t have structured it that way.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 19, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

they approved hossa and pronger’s contracts. no reason not to approve this one.

by dr(d)evil on Jul 19, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Per Gulitti:

The deal has been registered with the NHL Players’ Association, but has not yet been approved by the league. The NHL has five days to approve the contract. A source said there didn’t appear to be any reason why the NHL wouldn’t approve the deal.

Basically, they approved Chicago signing Hossa for 12 years and the Isles signing DiPietro for 15 years before then. It’s hard to justify saying no to this deal short of sour grapes.

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by John Fischer on Jul 19, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s comforting to know. Thank you for the update.

by kellyn on Jul 19, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THIS!?

If Pittsburgh can carry Crosby and Malkin at 8.7 Mill a year a peice and still have enough money to pay Martin, Michalek and Orpik, the Devils can afford Kovy and Parise.

I couldn’t be happier with the way this off-season has gone so far. I like Volchenkov more than Martin and Tallinder is going to help mold one our kids into a defensive force while providing one of his own.

Kovy is the icing on the proverbial cake my friends! He will make whoever he plays with better. Maybe I have been playing too many video games, but combining a scorer like Kovy with a power forward like Arnott and a passer like Elias is a dream!

We all know changes will come before they hit the ice again next season. If I had it my way, I would trade Langers and Zubrus. Langenbrunner needs to go so we can do with Parise what Nashville did with Shea Weber, give Parise the captaincy to entice him to stay. Zubrus has the same problem as Rolston in that he is not worth what we pay him, however he does hold enough value that we could trade him and get a decent 3rd liner. I also say Move Clarkson up to the second scoring line with Parise and Zajac. He has good offensive ability, lets use it!

The last point I’ll make is that this team needs some consistency. The lines this year NEED to spend multiple games together to form rapport. And for crying out loud can we please have a coach last for more than 2 or 3 seasons?! PLEASE.

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by Michael Gianetti on Jul 19, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Lou and Kovy have made me eat my words.

i was so sure that Kovy was going bolt and I FIND OUT THAT HE IS STAYING FOR THE LONG TERM. Wow! Although I am optimistic about the Devils chances at winning a cup this coming season common sense is telling me to wait and see haw theses guys mesh. Kovy is now officially a real Devil. Welcome to tje team.

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by LoNJDTechnology on Jul 19, 2010 9:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ecklund!

This just in from Ecklund: Sources say that Kovalchuk will definitely be making a decision tonight, and it’s 99.9% certain that he’s going to the Kings.

by Dr. Witticism on Jul 19, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I lol’d.

DON'T PANIC.

by elesias on Jul 19, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Update: Sources are telling Ecklund that the Devils are “aggressively pursuing” a deal with the Predators to fill the offensive hole. The word is that they want to trade Brodeur for David Legwand, a 7th round pick, and a chicken sandwich that was bought at Panera Bread a week ago but is reportedly still “very much edible.”

by Dr. Witticism on Jul 19, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd lol

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 20, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 20, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Devils have long found success as a team that has avoided the star system and built through drafting and developing character players. It’s a little disorienting to see them as the major free agent buyers of the offseason. Free agency is an expensive way to build a team, but it has helped the Devils put together a solid core of Kovalchuk and Volchenkov to go along with Parise, Zajac, and Elias. Hopefully the youngsters will be able to fill the bottom half of the roster effectively.

Fortunately, Kovalchuk comes with such a reasonable cap hit (Kings fans are mocking the deal – yet Kovy has a smaller cap hit than oft-injured 23-goal scorer Ryan Smyth), so hopefully it won’t prevent the Devils from being able to invest further in a solid defense down the line. The Penguins have invested so much in centers and defense that they are unable to field any true top-line wingers. I don’t think signing Kovy will put the Devils in a Blackhawks-like firesale situation because our biggest contracts (Arnott, Rolston, Brodeur, Elias) are all off the books in the next few years, opening up space to resign Parise, Zajac, and whichever youngsters end up earning big raises.

by bergenline on Jul 19, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I the developments of the last few years are largely responsible for this. First, Vanderbeek increased his share of the team so he became the one with the controlling interest. We all know that before him, the Devils spent as little as possible (I’m not saying that previous owners cheap for certain; I think a large part of that was the fact that the Devils were always a small market team).

After the change in owners, we got an absolutely marvelous new arena, which stands in a growing metropolitan area and at the intersection of various modes of public transportation.

The third factor is the fact that the NHL has changed significantly over the past few seasons (for better or for worse…Ok, for worse). There are often so many penalties in a game that a team might end up on the power play for 1/6th or even, in rare instances, 1/3rd of a game. The Devils’ power play has been…er…how can I put this delicately? A cluster@&%$. The trapezoid is long gone and the league is slowly reducing the physical play, all resulting in a bigger emphasis on offense.

Finally, we haven’t won a playoff series in…Let’s not talk about it.

by Dr. Witticism on Jul 19, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

official or not?

is it official, did the NHL look at it and agree with the terms?

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The next 2 years will be crucial for Lou. He really needs to watch his cap now but if he makes the right moves we could be really good for a really long time. I’m not worried about Parise leaving since Lou was able to keep Kovy’s cap hit so low we should have plenty of space to re-sign him.

The most obvious of moves to make now would be Salvador and Zubrus. I think both are good players that may be slightly over-paid but still easily movable. If we moved both of them we would have plenty of cap space to fill holes.

I think Lou is banking on Urbom, Josefson, and Tedenby being NHL ready by atleast next year. If Tedenby can switch to the right side he will still have a bright future here. Hopefully Josefson will be ready to take over as 2nd line center next year. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Urbom make the team this year.

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by C.J. Richey on Jul 19, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh and I’m gonna eat my word because I was so anti-Kovy for the past few months but a $6 million cap hit!, seriously how can you not love that.

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by C.J. Richey on Jul 19, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. That’s about where I’m at.

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by elesias on Jul 19, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy to see the turnaround CJ, hehe

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tedenby

If I was Tedenby I’d start thinking like a RW starting tomorrow. He looks like a top-6 talent, and there won’t be any LW openings on the Devils top two lines for a long, long time.

by bergenline on Jul 19, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short Term/Long Term

I like this deal for the short term with the Devils making a run with Elias/Brodeur before their window closes. I also like it for the long term with Kovy and ideally Parise locked up long term as a great one two punch. Defense and a puck moving dman at that will be what puts this team over the top. Since we know more moves are coming who knows what Lou has in store for us.

I also like this as a further character revamp for the roster. Three first round losses calls for a lot of change and Lou has delivered.

Now, the interesting question to me is the future C of the New Jersey Devils. Smart money says Parise but players who have played with Kovy (Atlanta teammates mainly) seem to enjoy playing with him. With Parise/Langs at the press conference tomorrow you wonder if future leadership structure will be addressed.

by Tom Stivali on Jul 19, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

no..

they alreayd said thye didnt have problems with langenbrunner being the captain, but they were prob BS that, i dont think they will say this, but i dont think langenbrunner will be captain this year

C- parise
A- Lanenbrunner (dont want to)
A- Elias

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be kind of surprised to see Jamie get stripped of the C. He’s had it for quite some time now. I think we all can agree that Parise, someday, will have that C. I just don’t know if it’ll be this soon. I think Jamie is still deserving of the title…all the players seem to consistently back him up. And he held the C for USA in the olympics, in which they were won goal away from winning a gold. I think Jamie will hold onto it until he leaves the Devils.

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

one goal*

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Langenbrunner’s going to be at the press conference tomorrow. I think he’s safe for now.

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by John Fischer on Jul 19, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not that the Devils could stop him from showing up anyway. Don’t read into the fact that he’ll be there anything more than it is at face value, he’s the current captain.

I know all about the NTC, but he’s probably the most desirable player on the Devils that isn’t “performancely” untouchable (Parise, Zajac, etc.). Langs and Salvador being the roster moves to get the Devils under the cap would be, IMHO, the best for the team and, again, aside from the NTC, the best values for the trade partners. Look at the other defensemen signings lately; $2.9M for a 2nd pair defenseman isn’t that far out of whack anymore.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 20, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Potential Roster for Next Year

I ran the numbers on capgeek.com and if we use this roster we are $68,333 under the cap. I know hard to believe.

Parise-Zajac-Zubrus
Kovy-Arnott-Elias
Rolston-Josefson-Clarkson
Leblond-Henrique-Pelley

Volchenkov-Kaberle
Tallinder-Greene
Corrente-Urbom

with Perkovich and Salmela rotating in. Trade Langenbrunner for Kaberle. Both have only one year left on their contracts, and Burke loves Langenbrunner. Also that would allow us to name Parise captain, thus giving us a better chance of signing him again. I know that Salvador, Langenbrunner, and White all have NTC’s or NMCs, but most players who are asked to waive NMCs and NTCs end up doing it in the end. I didn’t get rid of Rolston because I don’t think anyone would take him. The others are solid players but we can get rid of them and not be hurt too much. I don’t like how White has played, and although I like Salvador, we have to shed cap. Kaberle provides insurance for Greene. If Greene doesn’t play as well as he did last year we can let him walk and try to sign Kaberle, otherwise we got a good rental for a run at the cup and can sign Greene. Kaberle can also help develop Urbom and Corrente. And it allows Josefson and Henrique to get into the system this year so that one of them is ready to be a second line center, possibly, next year.

What do you guys think?

by hockeykid304 on Jul 19, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Forget Kaberle

He’s been injury prone and is too much of a risk. I agree with getting rid of Salvador (although I appreciate his contributions). Lou will ask Rolston to waive his NTC at some point and based on his comments his willing. I’m sure someone will take him and picks in a cap dump deal. We’ll have to overpay to get rid of the contract but its worth it. I don’t think you get rid of Zube. He has shown that his heart can be in it if he’s on a winning team.

by Scoob1978 on Jul 19, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we need to focus on getting Kovy and his deal under the cap before we start worrying about going after some other free agent. I agree about Zubrus I wouldn’t want to see him leave, but as Chicago has shown this offseason, when you sign a free agent of such a high caliber then you are forced to make some tough decisions. Obviously we won’t be having a fire sale to the extent that the Blackhawks had, but some player(s) are going to be moved, like it or not.

by DeboDevil on Jul 19, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like most, I was a little skeptical about re-signing Kovy to a deal, but with the 6 million dollar per yer cap hit, how can you argue with that? We needed a major tweaking to our roster as the last three years have shown that this roster is not getting the job done. I’m still cautious, but I feel much better about the amount of cash being thrown at Kovy in regards to making the team as a whole better (ie. re-signing Parise, Zajac etc. in the future). Let’s give Marty one more Stanley Cup run!

by DeboDevil on Jul 19, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

its no just 6mill

6mill-2years then 11.5-5years i think then 8.5 for year
something like that

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty new at the whole cap situation, but aren’t the Devils charged 6 million per year for every year of Kovy’s contract because they take the average over the total amount of years on the contract? I believe capgeek has Kovy listed as 6 million per year but I might be wrong…

by DeboDevil on Jul 19, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right Debo, Kovy gets paid by his salary each year, but the Devils Cap number is ALWAYS $6M.

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but I believe the cap hit is taken by the average sum of the contract (102) divided by the years (17). In this case, the cap hit would only be 6 million per year.

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words, although Kovy will at one point be making 11.5 million, the amount of that salary that is actually applied to that cap is a steady six million.

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I thought the cap hit was. Thanks for clarifying.

by DeboDevil on Jul 19, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so wait, hes making 6mill/year or 11.5 for those 5years?
huh?

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What he makes every individual year is not what his cap hit is. What goes against the cap is the average amount he makes over the 17 year contract. The contract is worth 102 M over 17 years. 102 M divided by 17 equals 6 M per year. That’s how they equate the 6 million dollar per year cap hit. Hope this helps.

by DeboDevil on Jul 19, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

so hes just making 6mill/year then?..im confused, will he ever be making 11.5/year or no?

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by C.J. Richey on Jul 19, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

so this is a steal then, he will be making more money then what the kings offered but hes only making 6mill/year total of 17year/102mill
instead of the kings low 5.2mill offer..right?

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's right

I don’t know about the Kings offer, maybe I missed that, but other than that yes, you’re right. I still don’t “love” this deal per se, but I do “like” it alot with a major reason being that cap hit. Now the next thing is who (and how many) is/are leaving Newark to make room.

by DeboDevil on Jul 19, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's look at the unofficial contract

I think Lou thinks Marty will retire in 2 years so if you look at the unofficial breakdown you see that the jump in Kovi’s contract in two years is roughly what we pay Marty per year. Parise is the faceof the devils and there is no chance in hell he’s going anywhere under Lou’s watch. I think we need to trust our leader because Lou has never mortgaged the future before. The Rags fans are calling it a ‘Sather’ Deal (by the way love how they rag on themselves) but I think Lou has a blueprint.

010-11: $6 million
2011-12: $6 million
2012-13: $11.5 million
2013-14: $11.5 million
2014-15: $11.5 million
2015-16: $11.5 million
2016-17: $11.5 million
2017-18: $10.5 million

by Scoob1978 on Jul 19, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re out of your mind if you truly believe Brodeur retires in 2 years.

In 2 years he starts taking 1-year bonus incentive deals with NJ. He doesn’t talk like player looking to retire in 2 years and he doesn’t play like one. If injury prone Hasek could play and be effective into his 40s, why can’t Marty?

by Zelepukin on Jul 19, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

its just an observation

The Kovi bump coincides with Marty’s salary. He’ll turn 40 then. Its a wild guess.

by Scoob1978 on Jul 19, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe brodeur will take a 1mill deal :D

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Kovy bump also coincides with Rolston’s contract, as well as White and Salvador if they are still around. Dont look into it thru Brodeur, he wont retire until 41 or 42.

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Fair Question: What kind of Legacy will Kovalchuk Have as a Devil?

I was thinking about making a fanpost about this. There are obviously certain Devils that leave their marks with this club throughout the years. Scott Stevens, Martin Brodeur, Ken Daneyko, Patrick Elias…what kind of legacy do you think Kovy might have? Do you think it possible his number will ever be retired in the rafters? The only other Devil who will have this long of a career with this franchise is perhaps the greatest Devil to have ever worn the jersey: Martin Brodeur.

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

No, I didn’t read anything. I just put some thought to it. This guy will be a Devil for as long as any of the greats. Typically we honor those who remain with this franchise for a very long time. Is it impossible for you to consider that Kovalchuk could potentally be one of the greatest Devils to wear the uniform? It’s not completely unfathomable..

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by Tim G on Jul 19, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey im not disagreeing with you man...not at all

I am stoked about the Kovy deal…also its worth pointing out how awful Burnsides front page article on ESPN.com is

by Drew Palmer on Jul 19, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theoretically he will be, but we’ll see…

Let’s give him more than 27+5 games before worrying what his legacy might be :)

DON'T PANIC.

by elesias on Jul 19, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by Skuba7 on Jul 20, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming

We get a Kovi-Arnott-Elias line what do we call it?

by Scoob1978 on Jul 19, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

But IKEA infers that they don’t fit together right and they always come with 4 extra screws…

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 19, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

now that’s a +1 lol

by Murdoc on Jul 20, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

this entire ordeal makes me nauseous. we need Zach . he’s an unbelievable talent, and without him, we aren’t going anywhere in the playoffs, even with Kovy.
i’m very, very nervous about this. if it wasn’t for Lou being our GM, i’d absolutely hate this deal. but being who he is, he’s gunna make this work.

by marypoppins on Jul 19, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

heres how its going down

arnott makes 4.5mill, hes gone next year, sign parise there..done deal

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by J-camps on Jul 19, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

broadcast?

Does anyone know if the conference tomorrow will be on T.V.? If so what channel? prob msg?

by st.pattysdaymassacre26 on Jul 19, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll Feel Better When...

We sign Parise again. I like the structure of the Kovy deal fine but if we don’t get Zach back I’ll be pretty upset with this move. Somehow finding away to jettison Rolston and Zubrus would be helpful.

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by sonicdeathmonkey on Jul 20, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

TV

I bet it’s on NHL network which is recieved by about 5% of Americans. If it’s not on MSG or NHL, it’s probably not on anywhere

by 3 already on Jul 20, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Cheer Up

There is very little reason to be concerned with this deal; the myopic resistence of some people here to the Devils changing and becoming a offensive minded team is unfortunate; in the end, this deal shows Lou’s genius because he really isnt stuck in the past, he knows you need two number one lines to win today. This deal vindicates the trade of Oduya and Bergfors.

As for the terms of the contract, Kovy is only making 6 million for the next two years. Elias and Marty by the time those two years are up will be either retiring or returning for less money. If you look at the contract,, essentially he really signed Kovy to an 11 year deal because the first 11 years until he is 38? about he makes significant money. After that he makes under one million. Kovy is one of the elite offensive talents in teh league and its more than reasonable to expect him to play and play well until he is 37-38. Great deal by Lou.

People who still have reservations about this deal may be clinging to some some imgage of the Devils from the past as a team who doesnt sign big names or doesnt get flashy with their players, they are hanging on to an image, and a past. I am hard pressed to explain their reservation including the reservation of this post any other way. The other commonly given reason for be concerned is we wont be able to retain Parise which is complete nonsense. Between Parise’s current contract, Arnott, and Langenbrunner we have roughly 10 million for Parise, there is no legitmate concern about him not being able to be retained. The Devils have a core of aging and expensive players that will be coming off or returning for much less in the next couple years: Marty, Elias, Langenbrunner, Arnott, Rolston. Kovy’s deal delays a hug cap hit two years, and then goes up for the productive period of his 30s, but then drops off the table in terms of a cap hit of less than 1 million after 38 years of age.

Another latent reason for the “concern” about this deal may be that most people here absolutely in LOVE with Parise and wanted him to be THE guy, the only guy, the face of the franchise, etc. Now he shares that partly with Kovy and so some of you are at least subconsciously upset with that. But to contend seriously for a CUP neither Kovy nor Parise can be the only guy, they need to compliment each other and they both know their teams needs two top scoring lines. Indeed, I’d like to see the Devils go with three offensive lines spreading Parise Kovy and Elias out along with left wing, surrounding them with all our very good complementary players. So dont worry, Parise is a big boy and you can still love him. He will always be Devil number one because he was our draft pick.

The fact is Kovy and Parise together means this will remain very competitive even when Marty steps down and Elias does at some point in the future as well. With Kovy and Parise along with at least average complementary players this is at a MINIMUM a playoff bound team for the next decade and with very good complementary players this is serious Cup contending team.

by max16s on Jul 20, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

the thing that people are “worried” about is half of them think jsut because Kovalchuk got resigned they think parise will be gone next year

but im sure Lou got arnott because A) one year left B) need a center, and his 4.5mill can go towards parise alone,not to mention that langenbrunner 2.8 contract is done next year and could prob be traded this year or during trade deadline

lou isnt stupid, he thinks these things through, not like some GM who go to NHL 10 and make trades then try and resign people..lou thinks 1year ahead

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by J-camps on Jul 20, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

the worry about keeping parise is a bit silly

exactly. with Langenbrunner and Arnott coming off there is more than enough money to keep Parise. in fact either langenbrunner or Arnott could resign for less money than they are making now and we can still keep parise. the fear is so misplaced. moreover, dont be surprised is Lou lock up Parise long term this summer. I think he probably will.

by max16s on Jul 20, 2010 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn’t stop half of the blogging world and media from prattling on about it.

DON'T PANIC.

by elesias on Jul 20, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s true but it’s definitely not an ideal situation.

You’ll see a post describing how in about, oh, 16 minutes. I prattle, even.

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by John Fischer on Jul 20, 2010 7:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Three Scoring Lines?!?!?!

Well, I am delighted Kovy is back because the Devils are now defintively a two line team. I had serious doubts whether our previous second line of Elias-Arnott-??? would stay healthy all year. Now we have depth offensively and can withstand and offensive injury if it comes our way.

But before we jump to the second line of Kovy-Arnott-Elias we should think about going with three scoring lines by spreading out our three top left wings. This I think would really be tough on team and make it impossible for them to quell our offensive attach with even their top four D men. Plus it would allow our very good complementary players to benefit from constantly being on the ice with a serious offensive threat. It would also allow us to even out ice time so that through the course of the season fatigue is less of a problem.

Parise—Zajac—Langenbrunner
Kovy—Zubrus—Clarkson
Elias—Arnott—Rolston

I would go with a fourth line of young talent—-which could also prove offensively productive if one or two of our young offensive players have a break through year.

by max16s on Jul 20, 2010 5:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Zubrus and Clarkson are two of our best players in front of the net and I can see both of them putting a lot of rebounds off of Kovy’s shot.

by max16s on Jul 20, 2010 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also think that Rolston’s only good productivity has come with Elias on the ice with him so as long as he is on the team putting him with Elias and Arnott is the best scenario. I think we get the most out of Elias by letting him play his natural left wing position

by max16s on Jul 20, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the mixing and matching and am excited to see what Mac does, but I just cant see Kovy without a true-center passing to him. Zubrus has proven to be at best a 3rd line center, and possibly a 2nd line right winger.

Towards the middle of the season, however, if one of the young studs (Josefson, Henrique, etc.) can PROVE that they can handle NHL speed and thrive at the center position then I would be all for putting one of them in the middle to center 3rd line, hell, even the 2nd, in your line-up.

by Marty'sBetter30 on Jul 20, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Late to the party...

Just finished up my move back to Jersey. My jaw dropped when I heard the news (someone told me it was a $150m contract). I really can’t complain that Lou managed to get the hit at a very reasonable $6 million a year. It still puts the Devils up against the fence in terms of making future moves. The Devils have a lot of work to do now, and until every stone is in place (and every stone that is replaced) is set, I’m not going to have a deep opinion on the matter.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Jul 20, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

People need to start using there brain.

Just classic. You’re right, people do need to start using their brains. Plus, a person has a brain, 2 or more people have 2 or more brains, I guess unless you’re one of them, then it’s 2 people, 1 brain.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 20, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Forget it, Jake Frank, it’s Chinatown the Internet.

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by John Fischer on Jul 20, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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