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Four Revealing Quotes About the New Jersey Devils Signing of Ilya Kovalchuk

Today was the big day, the first ever press conference by the New Jersey Devils to announce a player being signed was held at Prudential Center.  You can view the video of the press conference at the Devils official website; and Tom Gulitti has a transcript written up at Fire & Ice.  Check that out if you missed it live or would like to see or read it again.

As expected, there were questions raised to Lou Lamoriello about the structure and length of the contract.  CapGeek has a full breakdown of the $102 million, 17 year long deal.  The answers were shockingly candid from an individual as well as an organization that is notorious for it's secrecy.  In fact, there were four quotes from either Lou or team owner Jeff Vanderbeek reported between the two beat reporters Tom Gulitti and Rich Chere just floored me when I first read them.  I'm admittedly still trying to figure out what to think about the first three, and the fourth one is actually a little funny given the length of Kovalchuk's decision process.  Read on to see what I'm talking about, perhaps you have an opinion or argument of your own about any of these.

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The first bomb dropped is that Lou actually said that he doesn't think those type of deals should happen in the NHL.  Here's Lou's quote as reported by Tom Gulitti:

I asked Lamoriello what he would think if someone brought up Kovalchuk’s contract in the next round of CBA negotiations (in two years) and pointed to it as a flaw.

"I might agree," he said. "But there is nothing that we have done wrong. This is within the rules. This is in the CBA. There are precedents that have been set. But I would agree we shouldn’t have these. But I’m also saying that because it’s legal and this is something that ownership felt comfortable doing for the right reasons." 

I honestly don't know how I should feel about this statement. There have been those raging about the deal; for example, Dirk Hoag called it a "sham" at On the Forecheck, and Quisp continues to pile on with this post about escrow at Jewels From the Crown.  (Aside: Do you care that six-to-seven figure salaried players are giving up a small fraction of cash to a CBA their union agreed upon?) I can only wonder how they feel that the man who offered the contract - per Kovalchuk's press conference, Ilya said Lou offered 17 years - actually agrees with their  and others' complaints about long, front-loaded contracts.  Do I laugh at the coincidence? Do I shrug my shoulders and repeat the mantra of "Don't hate the player, hate the game?" Do I furrow my brow and remain puzzled?  Do I roll my own eyes and think Lou's trying to have his cake and eat it too?

Well for now, I just get plain shocked from the next revealing detail: this deal was not all  Lou's doing.  Here's the quote from Rich Chere at NJ.com (Shocking Quote #2 if you're following along):

"But I'm also saying that, because it's legal and this is something ownership felt like doing for the right reasons, then it was done."

But we have to ask: Was this Lamoriello's signing, or was it owner Jeff Vanderbeek giving him a push?

"You'd have to speak to ownership about that," Lamoriello answered. "This is a commitment ownership wanted to make to this type of player. All I can do is say whether the player is a player that can fit into the team, help the team and was not a risk as a player. As far as what the financial commitment is, that was out of my hands."

Lou doesn't definitively say whether Jeff Vanderbeek (the head of the group that owns the Devils) drove the deal.  Given that there's a press conference and admits that the finances were out of his hands, I'm going to read between these lines and figure he definitely had a huge say in making this deal.

I'm actually a little troubled by this precedent.  For the most part of his long reign as the Devils' GM, past ownership (Dr. John McMullen, PuckHoldings) has been hands-off as far as I could tell.  Lou has made the transaction decisions himself with seemingly little ownership input and very few details revealed as possible.  Now, there is a signing where ownership was quite active and Lou's being incredibly candid about that fact all of the sudden.  Is this a one-time event given the caliber of player involved?  Or will the current ownership become more involved in future player decisions on the team?

Truth be told, I wouldn't be surprised that some involvement by ownership makes sense for any kind of deal. After all, it's their money that's being spent.  The people providing the cash at least have to sign off on what the GM has been doing; especially when the amount of any contract would total over $100 million.  Yet, here we have a deal where it seems that ownership wanted Kovalchuk from the start, confirmed with Lou that he would be beneficial for the team, and then worked on a deal.  That's exactly what I got out of Jeff Vanderbeek's quote to Rich Chere in this enlightening yet shocking:

"No, this is not my signing," Vanderbeek said. "It was a combination of the whole organization. Certainly Lou did a lot of the heavy lifting. My partner, Mike Gilfillan, was very supportive and helpful. This is never just about one person.

"We did what we could to put our best foot forward. You make a decision and you don't look back."

There are people who won't believe Lamoriello pushed for this because of the salary and length of the contract.

"I would just say those people don't really know him well," Vanderbeek said. "Lou is all about giving the organization the best chance to succeed. To win. He also knows, like I do, this is the best chance to put a lot of people in the seats to grow revenue.

"Some people get that confused. He doesn't and I don't."

Admittedly, I'm mostly shocked that Jeff answered this directly and candidly as he did.  I'm a little relieved that this was a group effort; but at the same time, he did admit that business played a role in wanting to re-sign him.  I know that's the reality of professional sports since, well, they became professional.  For an organization that hasn't marketed themselves much less a player well, it's still a bit jarring to read that one of the reasons to re-sign him was to boost revenue - no matter how reasonable and beneficial that may be.

If the Devils want to promote Kovalchuk and this leads to other top players being promoted (Read: Zach Parise), then great. I'm 100% on-board with that kind of change in team philosophy.  However, going back to my original concern, do note the name of this blog is In Lou We Trust. When Lou's calling the shots on the hockey side of the team, I'm not concerned for the most part.  I firmly believe the fanbase trusts Lou to do the right thing.  If future deals start becoming Lou plus management, then I'd be really concerned for the future of this team. 

I have no problem with management having a say financially, again it's their money; but I don't want them overruling Lou.   Maybe I'm being overly concerned.  I hope I am because I really, really don't want to see Lou being influenced to make decisions he wouldn't otherwise make.  That's bad for the Devils no matter how you slice it.

Lastly, this fourth quote is, well, just funny given the Ilya Kovalchuk Decision Saga.  As Rich Chere posted, Vanderbeek revealed that the Devils made their contract offer early and then just waited:

And Vanderbeek said the Devils' final offer was almost totally on the table from the first day. It didn't really change.

"Not very much," Vanderbeek said. "There may have been a tweak here or there. Not much."

In other words, the two weeks of Kovalchuk going to LA or elsewhere, and still wrestling with the decision was really to field other offers.  Lou (and Jeff) stayed the course and they ultimately won out since no one else.  Even in this day and age of the Internet, mobile phone access, and constant information, patience truly remains as a virtue.  Even Kovalchuk's agent Jay Grossman praised Lou specifically for it per Chere.

I almost feel bad for the other teams that could have offered him something similar.  Almost - because other team's ownership and/or management would not go as far with either the total amount of money or contract length that would have beaten New Jersey's offer. 

Anyway, today was a big day but not just because of the press conference, but from what I learned from Lou and Jeff through the press itself.

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You have to remember that Ownership is buying insurance on that contract. When you have a 17 year deal for 102 million then the ownership definitely needs to be involved. I can’t imagine the premium paid on this contract.

by TyCobb on Jul 20, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

deals

i kept waiting for the rangers to waive wade redden’s contract to hartford and use the cap space to make a truly competetive offer for kovalchuck—waiting and hoping the rangers hadn’t thought of doing just that—and wondering why not….

by don in central jersey on Jul 20, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow is JFTC ran by high school kids or something?

by st.pattysdaymassacre26 on Jul 20, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

No. Quisp was even less than a fan of signing Kovalchuk than I was, and so Quisp’s doing his thing. It’s not drama, it’s a legit beef people have raised, I only pointed out him and Dirk’s posts as examples of that concept.

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by John Fischer on Jul 20, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s really gotta let it go though. All of that anger isn’t good for the heart!

by Marty 4 Prez on Jul 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me, I’ve read a lot of blogs in this 18 day process; he doesn’t have a monopoly on that kind of feeling.

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by Niesy on Jul 20, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting...

I truly feel Lou will always put winning first…if he felt Kovy would compromise the team’s ability to win, he would have fought this deal, not supported it. Being as this deal was not really changed from the original offer suggests it’s something the organization was comfortable with from the start. Keeping him for 17 years, well, it will be interesting how long he “puts a lot of people in the seats” on his own if the Devs aren’t winning. I am more optimistic that Parise will be taken care of. Now if the Jets can lock up Revis…I’m set for the next few years.

by leed's 13th child on Jul 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

The fact that the last few years of the contract probably wont be league minimum at that time may be an issue.

This could go to court. If it passes, Kovy playing past 40 could be means for the team to “take him out,” Tanya Harding style.

by SA-Town on Jul 20, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would it go to court?

What possible legal grounds are there to take the to court? If anything, there is precident for it to pass, i.e. Ovechkin, DiPietro, Hossa, Luongo.

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 20, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

500k wont even be league minimum by the time it comes around.

Also, Ovechkins pay goes up, not down and he makes 10 mil in his last year….Hossa does end up at 750k though.

by SA-Town on Jul 20, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

500k wont even be league minimum by the time it comes around.

How is anyone supposed to know whether or not that will happen? Moreover, why would it matter since the league minimum is $500k at the time of contract.

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by John Fischer on Jul 20, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Told ya so…no deal

by SA-Town on Jul 21, 2010 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your ‘logic’ was not the reason the deal was not done. For now.

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by Skuba7 on Jul 21, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kovy's reasoning to see LA

went along the lines of
“my wife has always wanted to see LA, and we have family there”
That strikes me as very funny. Way to blow off LA!

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by Willgfass on Jul 20, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this pres conference and even surprising candidness by Lou and Jeff Vanderbeek affirms something I’ve long suspected. The Devils are really trying to model themselves after the Yankees and you know what? You can’t really be The Yankees if you’re as guarded as the Devils have been for as long as they have.

I truly believe that Lou went this way because he feels Kovalchuk fits and increases the Devils chances of making multiple runs at cups but lets also not discount some of these other things…

1) No one has mentioned this but NHL’s TV contract is soon expiring. Don’t you all think having Kovalchuk now increases NJ’s chances of becoming a featured team on televised broadcasts? Winter classics? Etc, etc.

2) Whenever i’m at the Rock i can’t help to hear some fans muttering about why they built so many Luxury Boxes that mostly sit empty in the Rock. Why? because Vanderbeek wasl confident they’ll need them in a few years and better to have them now and not need them now then need them and not have them soon. This is a team with it’s ambitions set high.

Kovalchuk is I think in many ways phase one in a shift to try and turn this organization into the Yankees of the NHL. Now lets hope they can come even remotely close to that!

by Zelepukin on Jul 20, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

So your saying we need to trade for AROD?

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 20, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

we did

He’s Kovalchuk.

Parise is Jeter.

by Zelepukin on Jul 20, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

And Zajac is Cano!

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 20, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not a baseball fan at all but I have to say, these are apt comparisons.

by dr(d)evil on Jul 20, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marty is Tex and John MacLean is Joe Girardi! This Kovalchuk stuff is making me crazy.

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 20, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh yeah

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 20, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Mike Mottau is Joba.

He blows some games. He he

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 20, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 lol

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 20, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Jays fan, I feel unhappy because I can’t compare the Devils to the Jays.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 20, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes you can.

When July comes around, both teams are looking forward to next season…

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by slackdog_rm on Jul 20, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That first quote says it all

As you say, John, “hate the game”, and that’s exactly what I’ve been saying – this CBA has a massive loophole which undermines the competitive aspects of the salary cap and costs money from players around the league who don’t get these kinds of deals.

Lou Lamoriello is one of the most respected men in hockey, and is competing according to the established rules and customs currently prevailing. The fact that he acknowledges the loophole for what it is makes me admire him all the more.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jul 20, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, the game’s (possibly) changing in 2 years. There will always be loopholes, though, and being in cynical, a GM’s job is to identify what can be exploited for their team’s gain whilst work both within the proverbial box.

Don’t mistake my dismissive tone, it is a legit complaint and I’m sure it’ll come up in 2 years. I don’t think it’ll lead to any actual labor strife, though.

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by John Fischer on Jul 20, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is a decreasing contract different in this regard than an increasing one? During the early years of a long-term contract, the player is making more than the cap hi and less in the later years. In the more traditional increasing over time, now it’s at the tail end of the contract where the player is making more than his cap hit. You’re just changing when that happens. Plus with the time value of money, at the tail end of a front-loaded contract, there is nearly no salary so in essence the escrow issue is reversed.

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by FrankG929 on Jul 20, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still in shock...

Ilya Kovalchuk, a New Jersey Devil for life…

How ridiculously awesome.

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by pacmanghostx on Jul 20, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I know. Ain’t it cool?

I suffer from selective short term amnesia and have chosen to forget about the 2010 post season.

by Devil_Hard_Core on Jul 20, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not yet......

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by RolliePollieKovy on Jul 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

A dissenting opinion

I know everyone is questioning if Vanderbeek drove the Kovalchuk deal, its term and its cash, and pushed Lamorello into this. Certainly a valid opinion, and perhaps even the case. I’m not buying it, however.

I think this was as much Lou’s decision as Vanderbeek’s, because I can’t see anyone pushing Lou into doing something he doesn’t want. I believe he’d quit before he let a meddlesome owner dictate which moves he makes. And in the end, I think the two of them agreed that the company line would be “Jeff pushed for this”, as a way to spread out the blame and give Lou an “out” if things really backfire…. and as a way to give Vanderbeek credit if the deal works as spectacularly as we’re all hoping for.

Vanderbeek isn’t Dr. McMullen, or late Jets owner Leon Hess, both of whom were wonderful guys who let their GMs make the decisions, spend the money (often whatever was felt to be necessary to field a competitive product), and otherwise stayed in the background at pretty much all times. The new generation of owner is a little more visible and hands-on. I have no problem with Vanderbeek being a little more prominent so long as he doesn’t turn into George Steinbrenner circa 1970s-1980s — after all, it is his wallet paying the bills.

by acasser on Jul 20, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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