Why the devils are the best team in the east with Kovalchuk
The atlantic division has three very good teams and there are a couple of other strong teams in the east outside of the atlantic division so it could be hard to decide who the early favorite is to go to the cup. The Devils have a very good shot at getting to the cup if Kovalchuk comes back. They added some other upgrades this off season offensively and defensively.
The addition of Johan Hedberg could also help a lot because he could play about 15-20 games of year and give them a chance to win in those games. That was a problem in the last few years because brodeur was wearing down in the playoffs from playing 75-80 games in the regular season. If they use hedberg this will help a lot for Broduer in the playoffs. They now have the best all around goaltending in the league.
On defense they added Anton volchenkov who is an elite shutdown defensman with an intimidating presence. Henrik tallinder is another very good shutdown defensman to play with Volchenkov. That easily makes up for Martin defensively and the improvement of andy greene and development of one of the rookies if it happens will make up for his offense. Volchenkov and Tallinder will greatly improve the penalty kill. Andy Greene will give them a very good all around defensman that will play in all game situations and paly the point on the power play. They will still need one of the rookies to develop this year and they expect it to happen. There are a few that have very good all around ability and could develop into a top four defensman. They also have good depth with colin white and Matt Corrente. if they can pickup Randy jones for the league minimum that would be good because he would add depth and puck moving ability. He can also play point on the power play and has good passing ability.
On offense if Kovalchuk returns he could lift them into the top five in goals scored because he will likely flourish in the new system. Elias, Arnott and Kovalchuk will be a dynamic line. Arnott will benefit from the skill and playmaking ability of Elias and Kovalchuk. Elias has a good chance too score between 27-32 goals this season if he stays and and his playmaking abililty will also help kovalchuk get even more chances. He has the ability to score between 45-50 in this system with this line and Arnott will also be dangerous with his size, passing ability and shooting ability. The best thing about this line is that it is there second line and teams usually match their top defensman up against Parise and Zajac. Parise, Zajac and Langenbrunner have developed great chemistry together and are a potent combination. Parise has great speed, shooting ability and moves which make him a 40 plus goal scorer nd he is not afraid to get to the front of the net which helps Zajac who has improved every year. He is a very good all around center with very good passing ability, playmaking skills and he can also score goals. He has a shot too put up 80 points and 30 goals this year. He is also very strong defensively and can kill penalties. Jamie Langebrunner is another very solid all around player who scores and a lot of clutch goals and works well with Zajac and Parise. Even though his captain ability has been questioned he still steps up in big games and can score 20-27 goals per year and is a solid passer. He is also defensively responsible and can kill penalties. I think he is a good fit on this line. On the third line they will have Rolston who is a solid two way player and has a big shot. he is a solid third line left winger. He could have a good year if one of their rookie centers is ready to produce and a couple of them could be. If they can find someone with good size, passing ability, defense and some scoring ability this be a dangerous line. There are two guys who could fit the need as a good all around two way center. David Clarkson is developing into another good two way foward who is willing to do the dirty work in front of the net. He is also a solid power foward. Having him in front of the net is important and will hav plenty of chances with Rolston because he will get a lot of rebounds and is difficult to move. This will be a very good two way line as long as one of the centers is ready.
The special teams will also be very good this year. On the power play they will have Andy Greene and Kovalchuk on the point with Parise, Zajac and Elias. This could be a deadly first unit. The penalty kill will also be much improved with the additionaadditions of volchenkov and tallinder. Volchenkov is one of the best penalty killers because of his tremendous shot blocking skills, one on one ability, crease clearing ability and strength. Tallinder is also a very good shot blocker, good skater and can clear the crease with great size. They also have some good penalty killing fowards like Parise, Zajac, Arnott, Langenbrunner and Clarkson.
Other teams who will be tough-
Penguins- They have two elite scoring centers who will always give them a dangerous offense. They do lack strong wingers to play with them. Crosby still has the ability to make them better. Jordan Staal is also a key player with his elite two way skills. They also improved their defense by adding Paul Martin who is a solid all around top four defensman. Michalek is also a good shutdown defensman to play with Orpik. They now have a very strong top four on defense but they lack a power play quarterback which could be a problem unless Martin can fill that role effectively. He was mediocre in that role for the Devils. They also have a good goalie in Marc andre Fluery. They will still be a contending team although they have some holes.
Flyers- They have the best defense in the league assuming Pronger comes back fully healthy. That could be a big problem if he is not 100%. he is a workhorse who plays all situations for them and if he can not comeback fully healthy it will put a lot of pressure on guys like Timonen, Coburn and Mezarjos. They are also counting on Mezarjos too upgrade the third pair but he has really struggled defensively the past few years. On offense there are also a couple of questions. They are counting on Zherdev too perform to his potential which he is yet to do. They also need Leino to perform for a full season to make up for the loss of Gagne. But they do have a couple of rising young players like Claude Giroux who was strong in the playoffs and Van Reimsdyk who struggled but they are counting on him. If Zherdev and leino do not perform they could have downgraded the offense. The goaltending is always going to be a problem until they find a no.1 guy. Boucher is too inconsistent and Leighton is unreliable. It could be tough for them too get back to the cup if Leino, Van Reimsdyk and Zherdev struggle because the goaltending is to iffy. Their main question is Pronger. If he is fully healthy they will be dangerous.
Capitals- They have the best offense in the league. Ovechkin is the best pure goal scorer in the league. Backstrom is also an elite scoring center who makes ovechkin even more dangerous. Backstrom and Ovechkin could be the best one two in the league and on the second line they also have semin who is capable of scoring 35-40 goals per year. Mike green is also the best offensive defensman in the league. Even with all of this offense they still have a few questions. They lack a shutdown defensman which was a problem in the playoffs last year. They do have a couple of rising defensman who could be shutdown defensman but they might not be ready yet. The goaltending is also shaky. They will always be a contender as long as they have their offense intact and if they develop a shutdown defensman they will have a good shot to win the east.
The Devils should be considered the early favorite because they have the best goaltending, improved defense and a very strong and deep offense. The only questions are whether or not they play Hedberg to save Brodeur for the playoffs and whether a rookie is ready to develop into the third line and center and second pair defensman. They think they have prospects who are ready to do it. If one of them is not ready they might have to make a trade to acquire a center or defensman. If Kovalchuk stays they will also have to clear cap space. The most likely players to be traded are Zubrus and Salvador. He is likely to stay. He would make the Devils the most complete team in the league. The only players who have injury concerns are Elias and Volchenkov. Elias has had a couple of long term injuries and Volchenkov is often battling minor injuries. If they are healthy the Devils have the best all around team in hockey with an elite core group which features two 40 plus goal scorers, Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk, an elite shutdown defensman, Anton Volchenkov, a very good all around top center, Travis Zajac and an all time great goalie in Martin Brodeur.
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I don’t think Volchenkov and Tallinder make up for losing Martin. You lost your only proven offensive defenseman and added a defensive defenseman and a two way defenseman who won’t put up Martin numbers. Although I love both moves We’ll see who wins the argument in October.
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by RolliePollieKovy on Aug 17, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
I share these concerns
Greene will have to have some sort of a breakout year and score 15+ goals to show me that the Devils aren’t gonna struggle to score. Even with an Elias-Arnott-Kovalchuk line, which would be spectacular, they can’t rely on the forwards to score 100% of the goals. The biggest thing the Devils will be trying to do come trade deadline time this coming season will be to pick up an offensive defenseman. Hopefully a team that has one and is plummeting through the standings will be willing to trade one.
However, the Devils will be even more difficult to score on defensively with Volchenkov and Tallinder. Martin was great on D, of course, but the Devils managed just fine without him for more than half the season and still won the Jennings. Also, I think Hedberg will be a great backup, the best since Mike Dunham, and let the coaching staff give Marty more nights off because they won’t think it’s an automatic “L”
15 goals for a Devils’ defenseman is asking for someone to have a career year, and then something beyond that, because it simply doesn’t happen very often, and especially not in a Devils’ uniform. Scott Niedermeyer had one 15-goal season in his NHL career (with the Ducks, the year they won the Cup), and is the last Devils’ D-man to even put up double digits (14, in 2003-2004). The last Devils’ D-man to put up 15 goals was Scott Stevens (18 in 1993-1994, 17 in 1991-1992).
The biggest thing the Devils will be trying to do come trade deadline time this coming season will be to pick up an offensive defenseman.
It would have to be a really cheap one on the market for the Devils to make a move, assuming of course they retain Kovalchuk’s services. After re-signing Kovy, and dumping salaries to get him under the cap, the Devils are likely done for the year as far as major roster moves, because they’ll still be pretty close to the cap. They’ll leave themselves enough wiggle room to send players back-and-forth to Albany on an as-need basis, but the only other way I can see the necessary salary cap space to materialize is for someone to get hit by an injury serious enough to park them on LTIR for several months.
Asking for a 15 goal season from a defenseman is asking a lot, I know, but looking at the rest of the Devils’ D I feel like we may only have one defenseman who can put up decent numbers (Greene). Making a trade could free up the space if they’re trading someone with enough salary, like if Lou finds a way to dump Rolston or some other underperformer with a NTC.
I feel that the Devils can’t rely on the offensive numbers of one defenseman to account for almost all of the D’s points and expect to succeed, especially in the playoffs. There may not be many ways to get another offensive D-man right now due to salary cap constraints, but it’s still a concern.
Martin could skate, but he’s not a Kaberle or Souray. He wasn’t a true #1 defenseman night in and night out. I believe the Devils ARE better defensively, not that we needed to be any better defensively, but this team is. I have to believe that given the candidates: Corrente, Urbom, Eckford, etc. that someone is ready for the NHL job and can carry the blue line offensively, I just believe that. Depending on how fast Gelinas develops, he could come up and contribute as well, but given the current defensemen (Greene, Tallinder, Volchenkov, Fraser, Salmela, rookies – I am assuming Lou trades Salvador for cap space), I believe we are the same, if not better defensively. We won’t have a 50-point guy back there, but we will get contributions from multiple sources. The bottom line is there is a trade deadline during the season to fix what isn’t available already.
I do have a few problems with this team right now. My first issue is the 3rd line. I will assume there is no way to trade Rolston, but Lou does move Zubrus. I personally feel that Lou will try everything in his power to deal Rolston, and that would keep Salvador and Zubrus in NJ barring an extraordinary cap hit by Kovalchuk. Right now, it’s anyone’s guess as to what the third “checking” line looks like. Unless Lou is ready to rush Josefson, a talented, yet unproven center on NHL rink size, up to the NHL, then Pelley, Sestito or maybe Henrique (played on NHL size ice, but not pro), becomes the third line center. That looks a bit weak to me. Clarkson plays RW and Rolston/Zubrus on the left. Still, there are question marks there, and the Devils have always valued their checking line.
I also hope MacLean plans to use the fourth line. PL3-Sestito/Pelley-Zharkov is my best combination so far, however Palmieri could step in, Vasyunov could replace PL3, but the Devils do need someone who would step up and drop the gloves if necessary. I do think LeBlond can mature into a decent fourth line winger, but is he ready now? This is a win-now season for the Devils, Lou obviously wants a Cup this season.
On defense, although I argued in defense of our defense, there are obvious question marks. Can they contribute offensively? Can they keep up defensively (what will the third pairing look like)? I think it’s time to pick the best six defensemen out of camp and stick with them. To me, that’s Tallinder, Volchenkov, Greene, White, Salvador (if not traded) and Corrente. That’s not to say Urbom, Fraser (who must be on the Devils 21-man roster) and Eckford can’t step in, but I would start with the aforementioned six. If the Devils decide before the season starts that an offensive defenseman is needed, Marc-Andre Bergeron and Kurtis Foster are still available cheap last I checked (I know Foster is not a UFA, but it could still work).
The bottom line is, and many people have mentioned it, the Devils are a “typical” NHL team. MacLean is not going to roll four lines all game, the fourth line may see 5-10 minutes of ice time per night, the top two lines will see a majority of the ice time (especially because ZZ-Pops can shut other top lines down too), and the third line will be spotted as well, but more often than the fourth line. As for defense, the top two pairings (any combination of A-Train, Greene, Tallinder and White/Salvador) will see a majority of the ice time and the third combination will be spotted unless someone breaks out and has a Calder/Norris season that has not been mentioned.
I do believe, however, that the Devils’ top two lines are elite, and comparable with few NHL teams. Vancouver has a lot of talent up front, Washington obviously does too, but the Devils probably have the edge offensively over Philadelphia, Anaheim, Tampa Bay, the Rangers and maybe, just MAYBE, the Blackhawks and/or Red Wings. As for depth, the Devils are more likely to have 5+ twenty goal scorers than say, Pittsburgh…
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by RolliePollieKovy on Aug 17, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright then
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by RolliePollieKovy on Aug 17, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’re being optimistic about the special teams. Good players do not make a great PP (see Tampa Bay) and you don’t need great players for a great power play (see Montreal). Furthermore, one player or two doesn’t suddenly improve your PK. You can look around the league and see that trend everywhere.
but they lack a power play quarterback
No, they don’t. They have Letang and Goligoski, both of whom are highly underrated.
They are also counting on Mezarjos too upgrade the third pair but he has really struggled defensively the past few years.
One fact that most hockey writers often overlook. +1
They lack a shutdown defensman which was a problem in the playoffs last year.
Moreso two years ago. Crosby abused the Caps’ D in 2009.
They do have a couple of rising defensman who could be shutdown defensman but they might not be ready yet.
They’re ready for the NHL, maybe not to turn into Philips-Volchenkov though.
The goaltending is also shaky.
For what it’s worth, Theodore provided the same quality of goaltending that Brodeur did last season and Varlamov provided better, at even strength.
Unless the coaches give guys like Parise more TOI, the Devils’ offense can’t hold a torch to Washington and Pittsburgh, even with Kovalchuk. Vancouver I can give since I know that some of their guys had crazy high sh%. But Kovalchuk isn’t going to make up this much ground on his own.
Again though, to have a better offense the stars need more TOI. That’s the biggest way it’ll happen.
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Top 5? Really?
Last season, the Devils were tied-19th in goals scored (with both other local teams, ironically) with 222. The fifth-highest scoring team in the league was Pittsburgh with 257. Even if the numbers of some other teams come down a little bit, you’re still asking for another 30 goals on top of what the Devils produced last year. And where are those goals coming from? Your suppositions are highly optimistic:
- Those additional goals probably aren’t coming from Brian Rolston. He put up 20 last season playing a lot on the second line and on the PP. I can see him getting to man the point on the second unit and using his shot, but otherwise he’s likely destined for the third line with David Clarkson and a Center To Be Named Later. If the Top 2 lines play 18-20 minutes a night each (and I don’t see why they won’t), that doesn’t leave a ton of time for the third and fourth lines to put up numbers.
- Those additional goals aren’t coming from Patrick Elias, and I doubt he creeps into the 27-32 range you’ve projected above. I love Patty to death, but he’s topped 21 goals only once since the lockout, and it isn’t like a substandard shooting percentage have been the source of blame. He’s was under ten percent in ‘’06-’07 and again in ‘07-’08 (below eight percent, actually), but otherwise has never been below 10.8% for a full season in the NHL. Kovalchuk is going to shoot the puck a lot, and Arnott is liable to be the net-crasher to put home rebounds. I imagine Elias’ role on the second line will be as a playmaker, not as a scorer.
- Say what you will about not missing Paul Martin, but the Devils defense hasn’t produced much the last several seasons, and Martin was their top offensive talent on the blue line. Tallinder and Volchenkov aren’t going to wow you with eye-popping numbers back there, which leaves only Andy Greene as anything resembling an established offensive presence there.
- The extra goals you’re looking for may not come from the power play, either. As much as we deride the franchise with the man advantage, they have good success in that situation (18.7% last year, good for 11th in the league). Until they start drawing more penalties, however, there’s no reason to expect a quantum leap in the number of man advantage goals. The Devils were also in the upper half of the league in penalty killing.
This isn’t to say the Devils can’t compete for the top spot in the East and perhaps even a President’s Trophy if things break the right way. I still think Washington will finish first in the conference, because they’ve got a much weaker division to beat up upon (the difference in scheduling is a consideration). Until we know what Pittsburgh’s lines are going to look like, it is hard to judge them — I don’t think they’re done shaping their roster, and a veteran or two is bound to show up on a one-year deal to try and build their value playing wing for Crosby and/or Malkin.
With Kovalchuk, the Devils will have two lines (when healthy) that they can match up against any other team’s top two lines and compete on at least an even level. I don’t know that it makes them any better than those other teams. The three teams in the East you mentioned (Wash, Pitt, Phi) all have defensive units that will contribute much, much more in the offensive zone. Those teams may lack the goaltending that the Devils have, but they can just as easily outscore the other club to compensate.
This FanPost is speculative and optimistic. That’s wonderful, but I don’t know how well it comes to reality. A lot of the assumptions in this article require all sorts of things to break just the right way to fulfill all those expectations, and I don’t know if that is really a reasonable thing to ask for.
by acasser on Aug 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can’t find anything specifically to show how the Devils did post-Kovalchuk, but Yahoo has splits stats and using “Post All-Star” which I believe is the Olympic break for last season, the Devils were tied for 11th in goals after the break (only 8 goals behind 5th). A full training camp and season with Kovy, top-5 might not be too much of a stetch.
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Kovalchuk came on board shortly before the Olympic break, so that’s a reasonable place to work a split from.
That being said, the “tied for 11th” is misleading. The two teams the Devils were tied with in raw goals scored post-Olympics played one fewer game than did the local boys. One of the teams just behind them also played one fewer game, and if you re-sorted that list based on goals-per-game would move ahead of NJ as well. You’re not really looking at “tied for 11th”, but more like “14th”.
Buffalo was fifth in that span, at 3.09 goals-per-game (68/22). New Jersey wasn’t quite in that neighborhood (60 goals in 21 games, or 2.86 per). Not quite the roughly one-half goal per game that I’ve postulated it would take based on the numbers for the full season, but still a substantial amount.
I still think Top 5 is something of a stretch, even assuming Ilya Kovalchuk gives the Devils two terrific lines. There isn’t anything on the blue line to really help out beyond Andy Greene, and there isn’t the depth in forwards that a lot of teams have. They’re better than last year, they’re very dangerous offensively with more threats than most teams can parry, and they’ll be better equipped to weather the inevitable individual player slumps…. but I don’t know that they’ll get to Top 5 status short of drawing significantly more penalties.
If elias is healthy he will benefit from Kovalchuk and arnott. Zajac wil also continue to improve. They could also develop a second offensive defensman. having Kovalchuk for a full year will help a lot since he will benefit from the system. They will get more from the second and third line this year.
If elias is healthy he will benefit from Kovalchuk and arnott. Zajac will also continue to improve. They could also develop a second offensive defensman. having Kovalchuk for a full year will help a lot since he will benefit from the system. They will get more from the second and third line this year.
There are going to be areas in which the Devils won’t be as good, you know.
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by red army line on Aug 17, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There may be a few minor but I believe that overall the devils well improved.
If we sign Kovalchuk. An entire year of him plus Arnott, a solid second line center, will mean a higher number of goals than last year, even if Rolston (who had his third strait 30+ goal seasons a couple years ago) declines.
While we lost Paul Martin, but we barely had him last year and Greene certainly stepped up (putting up as many points as Martin did in his best year 37) in his place last season, and Tallinder will bring some offense as well. Not to mention a few prospects that may be ready to make the leap.
Volchenkov will certainly improve the pk and overall defense.
In goal we added a solid backup that played almost 50 games last year and went 21 16 6 with a very mediocre team, and Brodeur is always a superstar goalie.
So I am not exactly sure where the devils will decline from last year, unless you assume the devils wont sign Kovy in which case our offense could certainly decline.
These things don’t always show up on paper. That’s what I meant. Special teams work funny, Brodeur will be 37 or something, and so on. Maybe the puck possession game will suffer with Kovalchuk.
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by red army line on Aug 18, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions
(Could you use reply please? I don’t know what this comment is about)
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by red army line on Aug 17, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably refers to this comment in the post immediately above his:
So I am not exactly sure where the devils will decline from last year, unless you assume the devils wont sign Kovy in which case our offense could certainly decline.
If his comment is that he can’t think of any situation where the Devils are going to decline from the year before, that looks like a Polyanna, “glass so full it is overflowing” kind of view to me. On a team with as many veterans as New Jersey, you have to expect time to catch up to some guys, like it does with most aging athletes.
There’s optimism, and then there’s “what is he smoking and where do I get some”. At the risk of being really, really snarky, I don’t see how anyone should expect everything on the club to improve, no matter how big a fan one is and how optimistic one is. It just doesn’t happen.
I would not say the Devils are as old as everyone believes them to be.
Assuming we don’t lose Kovalchuk (which i like to although it may be a tad optimistic) we really kept the core together. (Paul martin did not play much last year and did not do anything in the playoffs and Greene looks like a candidate to take his place) We added a skilled backup, a second line center, a two way defense men, and one of the toughest and best shot blocking defense-men in the league.
While players do decline from aging it is slow, we also have youth players that can step up. It is not being
what is he smoking and where do I get someto assume that the devils improved in all vital areas.
They are not the 2000 team, but the current team looks better than it has in the past few years.
Adding Arnott, securing Kovalchuk, and bringing in one of the most prolific (if not the most) scorers the Devils organization has ever had in Maclean to coach the bunch will pay off in huge dividends this year when it comes down to the offensive end of the ice next year. What the Devils will still have problems in is offensively-minded defensive who can move the puck (besides Greene) out of the zone effectively. Evidently Tallinder is good at performing this function. And don’t underestimate the impact that Elias could potentially have when healthy; if I remember correctly, he put up huge numbers during his first couple of games back (although cooled down as the season progressed). I expect him to be back in form next year.
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I also foresee a potentially steep learning curve for Maclean where he will hit some rocky roads throughout the season; his minor league experience is great thus far but obviously he has no coaching experience in the majors yet. What Maclean will have I believe is a level of patience that Lou doesn’t often give to his coaches….
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