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Talking Trade with Mile High Hockey

Raise your hand if you want Brian Rolston to waive his no trade clause. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

As we are all aware, the Devils need to shave some salary off the books with the re-signing of Ilya Kovalchuk. They are roughly $3MM over the cap and probably need to move $5MM to be 'safe'. The Devils have a few ways to remove salary (waivers, burying the player in the minors) but the part that gets the most speculation is trades and right now finding possible trade partners.

Often, trades will be talked about on this site and others that have no chance of happening. John Fischer likes to call them 'Unicorn Deals' and those trades are usually based upon the idea that the team trading with the Devils has Glen Sather a terrible GM that can easily be swindled.

That being said, I thought I would identity one of the Devils possible trade partners and work with their SB Nation site to find common ground on a possible trade that would theoretically work for both teams. This will help prep most fans with what assets the Devils will likely have to give up to dump salary.

The team I wanted to look at was the one with the most cap space available for the upcoming season, the Colorado Avalanche. I will be dealing (literally) with David Driscoll-Carignan of Mile High Hockey to negotiate a fair trade between the New Jersey Devils and the Colorado Avalanche. After the jump you will see our email 'negotiation' correspondence (edited for grammar, etc).

Star-divide

Tom:

David, thank you so much for taking the time to participate in this exercise.

I know you are not going to take salary from the Devils for nothing so no asset that the Devils currently have (except their 2011 second round pick which was already traded) is off the table for this discussion. That being said, there are a few areas which I think the Devils can help the Avalanche both at the NHL level and in their development system. After taking a look at the Avalanche prospects, it seems the development system has a lack of high end talent at both left wing and the goaltender position. At the NHL level, it looks as if the Avalanche could use some additional goal scoring power out of the left wing position and a defensive focused defenseman to help eat up some of the time that Brett Clark (who departed via free agency) played (Clark had 19:08 TOI per game and
1:56 of that TOI on the penalty kill unit). Am I correct in these observations?

David:


The Colorado Avalanche do indeed have a great deal of cap room - heck, they are currently operating below the cap floor - so they would indeed seem like a good trading partner for the Devils. There is a lot of speculation Avalanche GM Greg Sherman is being ordered to stay at the minimum, but I, as acting fake GM have received no such edict from the mucky mucks and will have no qualms about adding some salary...if it helps our team.

While it's true that we did lose Brett Clark and Ruslan Salei to free agency, both spent many nights in the press box last season and we don't expect their departure to have a huge impact. More importantly, we have a plethora of young defensemen like Kevin Shattenkirk, Jonas Holos and Cameron Gaunce (just to name a few) who will be pushing for playing time this year. So, while a defensive-minded veteran would be a nice addition, we'd probably be more inclined to stick with the youth movement here.

You are spot on about left wing, though. The Avs' top left wingers on the depth chart are T.J. Galiardi, Peter Mueller and Ryan Stoa - two rookies last year and a player with one 20-goal season under his belt. While we think that all three have the potential to be solid NHL players, a little more firepower would be really useful here. It would
be an added bonus if that player had some leadership traits (the Avs' oldest center is 24) and PP skills would be desirable as well as the Avs were fairly mediocre in that department last year.

One other area the Avalanche could use a boost in: toughness. Cody McLeod is the only player who had more than 100 PIMs last year and he is not exactly a heavyweight. David Koci is on the roster, but doesn't figure to play much. In recent years, the Avalanche have lost guys like Ian Laperriere, Matt Hendricks and Cody McCormick - guys who could play and weren't afraid to drop the gloves.

Looking forward to hearing your offer.

Tom:

Seeing that you don't need any defensemen, which makes sense considering your system depth, the Devils have two options at wing that might be appealing to the Avalanche. The first would be former Avalanche player Brian Rolston (note that as fake GM I will operate under the idea that I can negotiate terms of a possible trade involving Rolston with the understanding that he would have to waive his NTC) who can help your team in all the areas you are looking for below. Scoring from the wing, power play skills at the point and at the age of 37 he would be a strong veteran presence on the team. The second option would be Dainius Zubrus. While not a scoring wing like Rolston, he can score with the right players and he is willing to do the dirty work along the boards and down low. He was especially effective on a line with Travis Zajac and Zach Parise, clearing out some space for them down low. I could see him working on the wing with Matt Duschene. He also, while not a fighter, is tough and will protect his teammates on the ice.

Now I know while for both players their cap hit is a concern (Rolston at $5MM and Zubrus at $3.4MM) each player still provides a good level of productivity. That said, I can make the following two offers to you:

1. Brian Rolston (of course this is contingent on his waiving his NTC), a third round pick in 2011 and left wing prospect Alexander Vasyunov for the rights to Peter Mueller and a fifth round pick in 2011.

2. Dainius Zubrus and Alexander Vasyunov for the rights to Peter Mueller.

With the Devils depth at left wing Vasyunov is blocked in NJ, but still has top six forward potential in the NHL. His natural position is LW, which the Avalanche lack in their development system. Either Rolston or Zubrus helps you in different ways on the power play and on even strength. Since Rolston does have a high cap hit for his production I am comfortable swapping picks to even out the deal. The Devils could use Mueller as a bottom six forward if he was willing to sign for $1-$1.5MM per year.

No interest in Bryce Salvador? He does help provide the toughness you are looking for.......

David:

We're actually pretty high on Mueller. He scored 20 points in 15 games with us this spring and we believe he has top 6 talent. Indeed, he scored as many points as Rolston did last year (and more than Zubrus) and, at 21, could still have his best days in front of him. He's not untouchable, but the asking price for him would be considerably higher.

Rolston is a guy that we've liked for a while and that point shot could certainly bolster our powerplay. But that salary is an anchor. We'd probably be thinking more in line with depth forward Kevin Porter for Rolston.

Zubrus is an intriguing player, but again that salary is a bit tough on the wallet. Being on the hook for 3 more years at $3.4 million for a guy who hasn't scored more than 40 points since 2007 is a bit hard to swallow, especially since the Avalanche are concerned with the upcoming CBA and only have one player signed past 2012. For Zubrus, we'd be willing to offer the rights to Russian prospect Denis Parshin. The Avs drafted Parshin in the 3rd round of the 2004 draft but have yet to be able to pry him away from CSKA Moscow of the KHL. I don't know.do the Devils have any high profile Russian players that might be a draw for Parshin to come stateside?

There's another player we might be interested in: Jamie Langenbrunner. While we have good depth at right wing, we think Langenbrunner's leadership and offensive ability would be a boon to our young team. His cap number ($2.8
million) is much more palatable than Rolston's or Zubrus' and, as an added bonus, he's a free agent after this season. For Langenbrunner, we'd be willing to offer Porter and Kyle Cumiskey a speedy defenseman. Both Avalanche players have favorable salaries - $660,000 for Porter and $600,000 for Cumiskey.

Tom:

Since Langenbrunner is still the team 'Captain', management has issued an edict to keep him for the remainder of the year. Parshin is intriguing and since he is in the KHL there wouldn't be a concern about an additionalcontract on the books (if he ever came over) for a few years. I think we are close to common ground so let me throw two amended offers your way:

1. Rolston (NTC disclaimers still apply) and a third round pick in 2011 for Parshin and a sixthround pick from the Avalanche in 2011.
2. Zubrus and a fourth round pick in 2011 for Parshin

Bryce Salvador still available.......

David:

I think we can do that Rolston deal. Zubrus' 3rd year is just too much of a potential burden for us down the road. Rolston's cap number is terrible, but we think we can absorb that salary for 2 years, and he'll be off the books before guys like Matt Duchene and Chris Stewart are due for new deals.

Salvador is intriguing to us, but we would have to give up one of the 6 on the roster now to make room for him.

Tom:

Fair enough. If Rolston doesn't waive his NTC what could we do with Zubrus? If I said Zubrus and a second round pick in 2012 for Parshin would that work for you?

David:

I think we'd probably need a 1st to make that work...

Tom:

Ok, the Rolston deal is priority #1. If he doesn't waive his NTC then Zubrus is yours. Now we just need to make it from my lips(fingertips?) to our hockey God's (Lou Lamoriello) ears.

Tom's Takeaway:

Even though David operated outside his team's perceived internal salary cap, I think this mock negotiation is a fair representation of what could happen should the Devils and Avalanche have trade talks. 

As you can see from the exchange above, the team's (in this case the Avalanche) needs really dictated the flow of conversation. While valuable for his salary hit (or at least not an albatross) Salvador was of no interest to David as the Avalanche seem set at the blueline.  What was interesting to me was that the third year on the Zubrus contract (2012-2013) seemed to be a very big concern for David as that would be the first year after a new CBA would be in place (hopefully). If the general perception out there is that the cap will go down with a new CBA the Zubrus contract might be harder to move than I had originally thought.   It took a first rounder (in 2012 so the Devils would have time to acquire a comparable pick before then) to trade Zubrus.   Could he have more value to Devils fans for the little things he does than he would outside of New Jersey?

Rolston being the preferred winger in this scenario also showed me that despite his large contract, he might have more value than we think on the trade market.  It also cost the Devils a third round pick in 2011 (the Devils also gained a sixth round pick in 2011) which would leave them with without second/third round picks in the 2011 draft (second rounder was traded to the Nashville Predators for Jason Arnott). 

Of course, Rolston would have to waive his NTC first which is a major obstacle to making or negotiating any deal.  Would be consider it?   Rolston might consider waiving his NTC for an up-and-coming team like the Avalanche because he has already played there and would likely have a second line role at left wing.  I am certainly not saying that he would or should do it.   I am simply saying it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.  

The return player in both deals was Denis Parshin who is currently in the KHL.   Not a terrible return, and as David pointed out (great selling point in my opinion)  being traded to the Devils  who have two highly respected Russian players (Ilya Kovalchuk & Anton Volchenkov) might motivate him to come to the NHL.

All in all it was an interesting exercise.   I washappy that there might be opportunities for the Devils to shed salary by moving either Rolston or Zubrus and still keep their top prospects.  I was reluctant to part with the 2012 first round pick for Zubrus, but realizing that the $3.4MM he is due in 2012-2013 might be more of a problem than I originally had thought, made it more acceptable. 

So now it's your turn.  How did I do?  Did you find this piece useful/entertaining at all?  Sound off below!

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That would be pretty amazing,

if all Lou had to do to get rid of Rolston was attach him to a 3rd rounder. Not sure that would actually happen because his salary/pts scored is rough to swallow, he is 37, and his #’s have declined so much that another 40pts season might not be likely in his future. The even better thing about getting rid of rolston is that you get to keep salvador on your bottom 2 and zubrus in your top 9. That makes your team better off all around and more depthy by getting rid of rolston instead of having to drop/trade both Salvador and Zubrus. Nice job and cool trade talks Tom.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 11, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I forgot to mention,

getting rid of rolston also helps some possible more salary cap problems you could encounter next year trying to resign parise and more.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 11, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

They still could trade Zubrus to someone else just to have a little more wiggle room though, & Salvadore as well.

by maliky on Sep 11, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Picard says:

Make it so.

Playing Devils' advocate since 1982.

by elesias on Sep 11, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I like the Mueller trade offer

But I think he just signed a new deal.

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 11, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t argue with Jean-Luc.

Make. It. So.

Playing Devils' advocate since 1982.

by elesias on Sep 11, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 11, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we had talked about making some type of trade for Cumiskey? This would be good for us as well (the Avs) as we have a log jam at young puck moving defensemen.

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Sep 11, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

And hell no you don’t mess with Locutus of Borg..

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Sep 11, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So….they would agree to Rolston + 3rd for a bag of pucks. I’m certainly OK with that. I’m curious what it would take to pry one of their lower-ranked defensive prospects away from them – say Cumiskey, Cohen, Barrie, or Chouinard. They have an embarrassment of riches in that department.

Also, I find Porter more appealing than Parshin, and they seemed willing to talk Porter-for-Rolston. Parshin doesn’t sound like he’s ever going to jump the pond, and Porter is a fairly highly-regarded prospect for them.

Can you ask about a trade centering around Salvador and Cumiskey? He said they would have to remove a top-six defenseman to make room for Salvador, and Cumiskey is expendable for them given the young offensive defensemen coming up for them and Cumiskey is something more desirable for us.

Maybe they could accept something along the lines of Salvador, Rolston, a 1st and a 3rd rd pick, for Cumiskey, Porter, and their 2nd rd pick.

by dr(d)evil on Sep 11, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we could differential talk about trading for Cumiskey. As I said earlier, moving him opens a spot for one of our 33 puck moving dmen. Porter is a kid you would like. We do. I wish we had room for him in our lines (he may anchor the 4th line which is a waste). I think if the Avs and the Devils are not talking in the really real world, they are fools.

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Sep 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We had a deal on...

Rolston and Salvador for Cumiskey and a signed puck by Stastny.

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 11, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which Stastny? There’s like 42 of the little guys…

And They Shall Know No Fear.

by i2strange97 on Sep 11, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paul

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 11, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting a puck collection

Won a Brodeur signed puck last season at a raffle at the Rock.

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 11, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

First of all, know that Gulitti posted on Fire and Ice the other day that no Devil has been asked to waive his NTC yet.

Now, if we’re going to try to ship out Rolston, an “elite” prospect would have to be involved. If the Devils were willing to part with natural-LW Mattias Tedenby, there might be a deal at some point. Colorado would almost certainly jump on Rolston + Tedenby + 3rd rounder (2011) for Brandon Yip and a 5th rounder. Tedenby fills a hole on the Avs (a LW), he’s going to be a very talented player in the NHL, the only problem is: can the Devils afford to pull the trigger on that deal? I mean, is it really worth shedding a top prospect who has 30 goals/70-80 points written all over him just to clear Brian Rolston’s salary?

I imagine Lou moving Zubrus (likely to Colorado) and then shipping Bryce Salvador (to ANA or even STL). The Islanders could be a dark horse, as Lamoriello has made some lesser trades with Garth Snow recently.

Verdict: I think Lou should settle for Zubrus + Salvador to the Isles for a nice, new, shiny Corvette Z06. I’d take that anyday.

"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells

by DownGoesAvery on Sep 11, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, that Toronto rumor (Langs + Rolston + 3rd rounder for Kaberle and possibly Bozak) will not happen. I like it, but it won’t happen. Langenbrunner will not re-sign next year, but he’ll play this last season. He is a productive player for a relatively low cap hit.

"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells

by DownGoesAvery on Sep 11, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colorado would almost certainly jump on Rolston + Tedenby + 3rd rounder (2011) for Brandon Yip and a 5th rounder.

Why would they jump at this offer? With the Peter Mueller signing, the Avs are a little less than $3 million from the floor (based on my understanding that the Lower Limit is $16 million beneath the Upper Limit). If what our friend from Denver tells us is true, Colorado may be handcuffed to the Lower Limit. Adding Zubrus would work for them, since it would inch them just above the floor, but Rolston puts them significantly above unless the Devils take salary back.

I imagine Lou moving Zubrus (likely to Colorado) and then shipping Bryce Salvador (to ANA or even STL).

I’ve seen some rumour-mongering around that one or the other could theoretically be headed to Dallas as well, but nothing I can chase down to link to at the moment.

Verdict: I think Lou should settle for Zubrus + Salvador to the Isles for a nice, new, shiny Corvette Z06.

Let’s not get greedy. Trade Zubrus and Salvador to the Isles for a postcard from the Hamptons reading “Wish you were here” and call it a day. Play nice with the other GMs, and let them “win” the deal, just in case you need them down the line for something else, say at the deadline.

by acasser on Sep 11, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s put it this way: rounding Rolston’s contract to $5M per, and rounding the Z06 to 60K, Garth should be buying Lou 83 Corvettes per year.

"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells

by DownGoesAvery on Sep 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm…assuming Rolston goes to LI, I guess Zubrus + Salvador get you a few more.

"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells

by DownGoesAvery on Sep 11, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can't take on all that, lol

the isles need cap room next year to resign Okposo, Bailey, Moulson, Hillen, and sign at least 1 big name free agent. Plus they have a big decision for shcremp/comeau/wisniewski to come back next year, and the possible need for a new starting goalie too. Given all those moves + Tavares/Nielsen needing to be resigned in 2 years and Nino’s contract coming on the books, I don’t see the isles being able to take on salvador + zubrus or rolston. All 3 is too much, and taking 1 would be the best scenario cap wise for us(although rolston would hurt a bit unless he retires after this year). I’d love salvador for gervais or a pick, zubrus I’m not very high on because of the pay/play, but he’s an improvement for our 3rd line, and rolston’s contract I hate, but a person who can help on the powerplay and score that many goals would be a big welcoming on the 3rd line and special teams unit (but that contract, everytime I would look at it my brain would twinge, lol). All very livable options for the isles or av’s. Some very interesting points too.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 11, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cmon man

Will give you a day with the cup though! Help us out buddy.

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 12, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol,

as long as we can ride with it down hempstead turnpike and have a parade then it’s a deal!

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 12, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright. One day but we get all the profits lol.

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 12, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playing hardball huh?

If that’s what it takes then ok. Pleasure doing business with ya.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 12, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We gotta deal

Mathew Barnaby to Lyle Odelein: "Cornelius, as we like to call him, gets under your skin. Planet of the Apes. Look at him. Seriously. He looks like Cornelious."

Odelein to Barnaby: "He should take a look at his wife. She's God-awful to look at."

by RolliePollieKovy on Sep 13, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rolston retiring after this year wouldn’t help your cap situation, as a 35+ contract, all the years count toward the cap.

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by FrankG929 on Sep 12, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

First of all, know that Gulitti posted on Fire and Ice the other day that no Devil has been asked to waive his NTC yet.

True. But why would he be asked to waive it right now? Wouldn’t Lou secure a deal first? That would seem to be the best way to approach it. Get the city/team first, and then sell Rolston on it.

I think the Devils can move Tedenby but only if two of the ‘killer’ contracts go, not just one. While he is blocked that doesn’t mean he should be sold low.

If the Devils and the Avalanche do ever talk I would involved Tedenby in talks as long as the Devils can procure a young puck moving d-men, which their system seems to have a lot of.

by Tom Stivali on Sep 11, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, if we’re going to try to ship out Rolston, an "elite" prospect would have to be involved. If the Devils were willing to part with natural-LW Mattias Tedenby, there might be a deal at some point.

The whole point of this little email exchange is to see what kind of deal Colorado might accept to help us with our cap situation. Realistic or not, it seems their lead blogger is willing to take on Rolston if we throw in just a 3rd round pick. Why are you serving Tedenby up to them on a silver platter?

It seems to me that the price of dumping salary in this league is not as high as many of us had feared. If Langs + Rolston + 3rd rd pick for Kaberle and Bozak is a legit rumor….we are actually getting useful parts in return for dumping salary, without giving up high draft picks or top prospects. Such a trade would force us to also dump Salvador since Kaberle’s contract is pretty hefty, but on balance we’re talking about replacing Salvador with a top-notch puck-moving Dman (a role this team desperately needs), dumping Rolston, and essentially giving them one year of Langenbrunner in exchange for a promising young center – that’s a really good deal for us.

I don’t think we have to worry about losing Tedenby, Josefson, Urbom, or a 1st rd pick.

by dr(d)evil on Sep 12, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very great insight,

I think it’s crazy to believe that a salary cap floor team would need a high-end prospect to take on rolston’s contract. That’s a bit coo-coo. A 3rd rounder in the deal is a bit meh, maybe a 3rd and 4th should do it or a 2nd rounder with rolston should definitely get the job done. And that trade for Kaberle above isn’t bad either and I could actually see that happening. Toronto’s defense is stacked and their offense is crap so that would make sense from all sides, but I doubt toronto would give up bozak given how he played last year and that trade doesn’t solve the devils cap problems unless your throwing 1-2 higher paid players in the minors. Interesting in deed though, but you must remember Kaberle is getting 4mil+ and Bozak is almost making 4mil/yr, so that proposed trade actually increases the devils cap room. So they would have to waive or send salvador and zubrus to the minors to start the season anyway. Who knows though about rumors.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 12, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can help the Devils with the cap because even though Bozak’s published cap hit on CapGeek is high, his base salary is just $875K, his bonuses can be deferred to next year ($2.85 M) and he may not even reach the targets needed to reach his bonuses. If the bonuses are easy to achieve, the Devils can just send him to the AHL and bring him up next year. If the bonuses are not easy to achieve, it sets up some nice competition in camp between Bozak and our top center prospect Josefson.

The trade would put Toronto further over the cap than they already are, but I think the expectation is that they’re going to banish Jeff Finger to the minors regardless.

It is a win for both teams and seriously makes some sense for the Leafs, who need a skilled veteran forward with leadership like Langenbrunner and can make better use of Rolston than the Devils can, but I think the Devils come out on top in the long run because they don’t have to give up any picks/prospects for dumping Rolston, and they get a good young player. I would accept the deal even without Bozak as part of the deal, though.

Of course, between the THREE NTCs involved and what Burke was demanding in exchange for Kaberle (Langenbrunner is a top-six forward, but not a young one), I don’t think there’s any chance this trade actually happens.

by dr(d)evil on Sep 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was amazing

The acting Avs GM was more than fair in those negotiations. I’d even be willing to include a lower level prospect in addition to your offer if it meant completing the deal. We can only hope that the Devils and Avs have this conversation themselves.

It def gives you hope because we all know front offices are much more reasonable and realistic than fans are. You’d expect a fan to vastly overrate their players and demand far too much in return so if a fan agreed to that, I’d think the actual GM wouldn’t be too far off.

by PariseLikeSundayMornin on Sep 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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Marty_sbetter_small Matthew Ventolo

Zidlickymania_small Kevin Sellathamby

1729_small Matt Evans SNC