Spread the wealth: Why Kovy and Zach should not play with each other...or Elias
The strength of the New Jersey Devils heading into the 2010-11 NHL Season appears to be at left wing. Compared to top left wings in the game today (Alexander Ovechkin, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Zetterburg, Dany Heatley, Alexander Semin, etc.), the Devils' trio of Zach Parise, Ilya Kovalchuk and Patrik Elias are as good as any of the top wingers in hockey. In fact, the Devils had two of the top five goal scoring left wingers at season's end in 2009-10 (Kovalchukranked third with 41 goals and Parise fifth with 38 goals). That presents a challenge for head coach, John MacLean, however. Most teams benefit from two decent scoring lines in the NHL today. The Devils may have the talent for more than two scoring lines, however, but it will take patience to do so. MacLean has reportedly experimented with a line consisting of Parise, Travis Zajac and Kovalchuk playing on the right side. Ilya did not mind the 'experiment' by MacLean(he later joked saying he would play goal to be with the two of Parise and Zajac), however it may not benefit the team as expected.
The Devils do not appear to have a checking line in place for the 2010-11 season, however MacLeancould probably come up with one, consisting of Brian Rolston, Danius Zubrus or Jamie Langenbrunner and either a rookie center or Adam Mair. The fact is, though, that the line of Parise, Zajac and Langenbrunner is a better defensive checking line than any other combination. Parisefinished the 2009-10 campaign at a plus-24 defensive rating, with Zajac just behind at plus-22. Langenbrunnerwas a plus-six, however in 2008-09 season, all three players were a plus-25 or better. For these reasons, that combination should not be interfered with. Parise, Zajac and Langenbrunnerplay at their best then they can play with each other consistently, and Jacques Lemaire clearly did not leave the three together as often as 2008-09 head coach Brent Sutter had. The three combined for 82 goals (one goal per game) in 2009-10, and 94 goals in 2008-09. That 176 goals in the past two seasons combined accounts for nearly 39% of the Devils' 454 goals scored during that span.
Now, the question then becomes what to do with who after the top line is set. Assuming the lines rolled out on October 8th against the Dallas Stars begin with Parise, Zajac and Langenbrunner, MacLean has some more decisions to make. Danius Zubrus has previously centered a lot of talent in his career, from the occasional shift with John Leclair in Philadelphia to Martin Rucinsky in Montreal, even limited time with Jaromir Jagr and Peter Bondra in Washington, then with Alexander Ovechkin later in his Washington career, Zubrus has fit well at times with the right wingers. Zubrus even showed flashes of brilliance playing as a right wing with Parise and Zajac last year with the Devils. That leads me to my next mock-coaching decision: install Zubrus as the second line center. Zubrus possesses size that would open up ice for potential linemates Ilya Kovalchuk and David Clarkson. Clarkson could drive the net (not that Zubrus couldn't do that as well). This move may not be permanent, however, depending on the development on young centers such as Jacob Josefson and Adam Henrique. Having Clarkson play on a line with a talented winger such as Kovalchuk could help him dramatically. Clarkson's adjusted 82-game stats last year would have been 20 goals and 23 assists for 43 points. Kovalchuk, Zubrus, Clarkson. That's my second line for the time being.
The three players remaining that would likely assume third line duties are very talented players, and all three are probably top six forwards on a lot of teams in the NHL. One could argue that nine players on the Devils are top six forwards depending on their respective roles on the team. But having a third line of Patrik Elias, Jason Arnott and Brian Rolston could be dangerous. Last season, Elias and Rolston were matched up for a part of the season, and at times were unstoppable. Zubrus did center them for part of that time, while Elias actually played center as well for some of the time. Patrik Elias is a left wing. He should be left there all season (other than power play time...). Jason Arnott is the most logical center for Elias, with Rolston a very solid complement to the duo. This line won't skate by anyone, however they will generate plenty of scoring chances, especially because this would be the third line. Considering John MacLean seemed like he wants to keep Parise, Kovalchuk and Elias as left wings, someone has to play third line anyway.
Now as anyone can tell, there are some flaws with this potential lineup. Zubrus and Langenbrunner are in trade rumors (let's be honest, Brian Rolston is not likely to be moved this season), and ice time would be scarce for an individual. There's also the young players such as Mattias Tedenby and the aforementioned Josefson and Henrique. Any (one or more) of those players could make the team this year as well. Tedenby has been practicing from the right side, and the other two could make solid third line centers.
The most 'logical' approach to trades the Devils certainly have to make is to send Colin White (no-trade clause, not no-movement clause) to Albany and deal Zubrus, whose trade value appears greater than other options (Travis Zajac would not be considered an 'option'). Assuming the ladder comes to reality, things could become more problimatic for MacLean. If Arnott assumes second line duties, than Elias moves to the right side OR Langenbrunner gets bumped to the second line with Elias and Arnott, but Kovalchuk would then play right wing. In my opinion, the Parise, Zajac, Kovalchuk line is too 'stacked.' I highly doubt that MacLean places the pressure of second line duties on Henrique or Josefson, however long-term, that may be the way to go. There is no easy answer any way you look at it. The one thing I would like to see through all of this is for Parise, Kovalchuk and Elias to play as seperately as possible. They all bring their own dynamic to the game, and they all excel in their own game. It seems unlikely that seperating Elias from Arnott benefits either player, but putting Kovalchuk with Parise and Zajac damages a top line that can match up against the opposition's top line defensively.
Finally, there is one final option that may or may not take off amongst fans and coaches. The option would be to move Kovalchuk up with Zajac and Langenbrunner and move Parise to the right side with Elias and Arnott. The remaining wingers, such as Clarkson and Rolston, could be centered by Josefson or Henrique as a third line, with Tedenby on hold.
One thing is for sure, though, there are a lot of forwards in New Jersey.
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ZZPops should be a line, and Elias and Arnott could bring about the next incarnation of the A-Line with Kovalchuk. I think Elias is more versatile and should play RW and keep Kovy at LW.
Whatever MacLean comes up with, I just hope it works.
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I disagree...
Someone is going to have to go to RW out of the 3 since rolston will likely be 3rd line LW. Also it would be foolish to have one of them on 3rd line. Having a dominant line with ZZ-Kovy would be sick. That 2nd line would be a more than above average 2nd line with Elias-Arnott-Langennbrunner..3 players capable of producing 60 points+ each if healthy.
Well, in that case, the third line would have to be more of a traditional checking line with Kovy on the ZZ line. The ZZ duo is very defensively aware, Kovy isn’t as bad as people want to believe. Also, that would likely give Adam Henrique the edge in terms of making the team, to be a checking center.
That is NOT what the Devils want to do. I believe Marcus Nilson makes the team. Henrik Tallinder was brought here similarly to why the Lightning signed Ohlund last year, Ohlund mentored Victor Hedman, and Tallinder, a proficient NHL defenseman, is here for Urbom and the young Swedes we have, which means my theory is Josefson, Tedenby and Urbom all make the team (too bad we lost Bergfors) with Hedberg as another Swedish veteran.
"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells
by DownGoesAvery on Sep 18, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ZZKovy line should spend most of the time in the offensive zone so that should be a problem. Elias-arnott-langenbrunner are all good defensivly. And at this point Josefson is better option than henrique. Jacob is a good two way forward so i expect him to be 3rd line center. I don’t see a traditional 3rd line checking line with the fire power available on this team.
by zach parise9 on Sep 18, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That may be the perfect challenge for this franchise: let the scorers score. It’s time.
"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells
by DownGoesAvery on Sep 18, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Parise-Zajac-Kovalchuk is just challenging other teams to throw their best checking units at the trio. No offense to the possibility of Elias-Arnott-Langenbrunner, but I don’t know how many goals you’d expect out of the three…. all three players in question are getting up there in years and are a few seasons removed from truly gifted goal-scoring prowess. Even if EAL saw secondary checkers and defensive pairs, I’m not sure you’d get enough offense out of it to justify shifting things around.
Anyone remember Tampa Bay circa 2007? (a.k.a. the last time the Devils won a playoff series) How Tampa had the best forwards and line in the series by a country mile with St. Louis, Lecavalier, and Brad Richards…. and how the Devils would scramble to get their best defensive players on the ice every time those three hopped over the boards (which was about every other shift, IIRC)? Sure, those three were good enough to keep Tampa in the series and even win the ‘Ning a couple of games…. but the Devils were able to keep them in check well enough. I see a Parise-Zajac-Kovalchuk line working much the same way…. and the fairy tale doesn’t end with the handsome Prince (i.e., the Devils) marrying the Princess (winning the Stanley Cup) and living happily ever after.
The concept of Elias-Arnott-Rolston as my second line (with Jamie Langenbrunner bumped further down the depth chart) makes me sick, but not in a good way. Rolston can certainly be a serviceable second-line winger, but he’s better off in a reduced role and serving as the “In Emergency Break Glass” forward — which is to say that he should be the replacement for an injured forward (on the wing, with Elias moving to center if Arnott or Zajac is your casualty).
We know what ZZ Pops can do, they have good chemistry, and I don’t see any particular reason to interfere with it. Last season demonstrated Elias and Kovalchuk work well together and have at least some chemistry, if you take the numbers as any indication…. so there’s no reason to break those two up. Unless you plan to have Elias at center and Rolston (or Zubrus, or Clarkson) on the off wing with them, there’s no reason not to have Arnott between Elias and Kovy.
For your third line, take whichever are left of Zubrus, Rolston, and Clarkson, and fill in missing pieces as necessary. Sure, it won’t be wonderful, but I’d match them up against any third line in the game, and I think they’ll more than hold their own against the lackluster defense that will be left after opposing teams try to deal with the Top 6.
As much as I would like to break Parise and Kovalchuk up, there should be enough secondary scoring to prevent such an occurance. Besides, not many teams have true checking lines anymore. It’s a go-get-all-the-offense-you-can league right now.
"Potential means you ain't done it yet" - Bill Parcells
by DownGoesAvery on Sep 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been a big advocate on this site for having Parise, Kovalchuk, and Elias all on different lines. First off, while I think Parise-Zajac-Kovalchuk is great when the Devils are down by a goal with one minute left in the game, winning teams are rarely built around one insanely good line – and in the playoffs, scoring depth becomes even more important.
I wouldn’t object per se to an Elias-Arnott-Kovalchuk combination, but I think that leaves us with a weak third line that is neither a checking line nor a scoring line. I see the rationale for putting a great playmaker and passer in Elias with a sniper like Kovalchuk, but I believe Kovalchuk will go out and score no matter which of our top-9 forwards you put on his line. This team has the talent to ice three terrific lines, which is a luxury most teams don’t have, and I think we should take advantage of that.
Then you get TOI issues though. Elias should be getting 1/2 ES minutes, not 3.
by red army line on Sep 19, 2010 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Elias should get more PP and PK time and less ES time. Also, neither he nor Arnott are spring chickens anymore. I think it would be beneficial for them to get less ES time during the season so that they’re fresher in the playoffs. It also cuts their risk of injury.
Besides, having a weak third line would force the Devils to play the top two lines a lot. Although the Olympics were a factor, I felt that ZZPops ran out of gas at the end of the season and into the postseason. Zajac’s TOI/gm went up to 20:12 from 18:38 the year before, Zach’s went up to 19:46 from 18:45, and Langenbrunner went up to 19:33 from 18:05 (and these changes are entirely attributable to increases in ES TOI). Elias went down to 17:37 from 18:34, largely due to diminished PK and PP time, and in spite of an extra minute of ES time. Kovalchuk had a whopping 21:40 during his 27 games here.
I think all of these were mistakes by Jacques Lemaire. ZZPops had more ice time in 2009-10 than in 2008-09, but that didn’t make them more effective or even allow them to put up more points. Kovalchuk not only had 2 more minutes of PP time per game than Parise, he also had nearly half a minute more ES time than Zach.
As for Elias, his value is magnified in special teams situations – with more PP and PK time in 08-09 (77 games) he scored 31 PP pts and 5 SH pts, both team-leading totals. In 09-10, playing only 58 games and with reduced special teams time, he scored only 11 PP pts (on pace for about 15 pts in a full season) and 1 SH pt. The increased ES time did allow him to score 36 ES pts in 09-10 (a rate of 48 pts in 77 games) vs 42 pts in 08-09 in 77 games.
Perhaps we can come to a compromise with this solution:
Parise and Zajac get top-line minutes (18-19 per game)
Elias and Arnott get 2nd line minutes (18 for Elias, including lots of PK and PP time, and 17 for Arnott with lots of time on the point on the PP)
Kovalchuk plays with guys who get 3rd line minutes (15 per game) but Kovalchuk gets double shifted at the beginning and end of each period to take the right wing side on both Parise/Zajac’s line and Elias/Arnott’s line for a total of 19 min per game.
This would put Langenbrunner, Rolston, and Clarkson’s ice time at about 15 per game – with Langenbrunner and especially Rolston getting PK time and small amounts of PP time, and Clarkson getting decent PP time in front of the net. In sum, we’d have three very balanced lines and everyone would be getting the ice time they should be getting. Although Kovalchuk would spend about 10 min per game with not-great players, I think he will be just fine making things happen on his own and will continue to produce, and will probably spend about 5 min at ES with ZZ or EA and another 3-4 min on the PP.
Very interesting idea it really has the potential to give everyone what they want, but it is a lot of line shuffling.
It also depends on Kovy’s potential as a right winger although Maurice Richard put 50 goals in 50 games when he was moved from left wing to right. Lets hope Kovy can do the same. ; )
The practicality of ZZKovy works. You got a goal scoring playmaker, a play maker, and a sniper. If Elias could stay healthy I could see him putting up 30 goals with arnott 25 and Langs 15, but the chance of Arnott and Elias getting injured is too great to rely on this. In the end I think Johnny Mac is messing around with lines and trying to see how well Kovy and Elias play on the right too see who will move.
Lets not forget that Arnott was on pace for over 60 points last year. All 3 guys (Elias, Arnott, Langenbrunner) are capable of putting 60+ points each..That could be a first line for some teams. Our 3rd line would also have some fire power with Josefson centering rolston and clarkson/tedenby. I get that you guys want solid depth but for someone to suggest that Elias acually gets bumped down to 3rd line, not only does it cause TOI problems but it will also diminish rolston’s role even further. Why not take advantage of our fire power and make a great top 6 with a above average 3rd line.
frankly I don’t care what the line combos are as long as we win games. You could have Marty playing first line center for all I care.
i agree 100%.
Do you really think having Langs with Elias and Arnott is that bad. I actually think that will be a productive line. Arnott was a first line center in Nashville (I am pretty sure) and he put up some solid numbers. Sure Kovy will get more points but we still have two very solid lines.
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The poll results show that I’m not the only one that thinks Kovy and Elias were meant to play with each other. I thought they showed traces of brilliance last year in the limited opportunities they had together. Keep ZZ Pops together and make the opposing team decide which line to match up their top defense against. Putting Kovy and Parise on the same line makes that decision for them.
Also, maybe this is reading too much of nothing but I was thinking that maybe by the Devils suggesting that Kovalchuk move to the RW instead of Parise on that line could be a step towards reassuring Zach that it’s his team more than Kovy’s and luring him to stay? Yes, Kovalchuk shoots right and Parise shoots left, so you could say that that’s how the decided. Just throwing that out there.

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