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First Cuts in Devils Training Camp, A Few Surprises Remain on Roster

Adam Henrique: No preseason games, didn't make it past the first cut in New Jersey this summer.  (Photo by Richard Wolowicz/Getty Images)

This afternoon, Tom Gulitti got the news of the first group of players cut from training camp by the New Jersey Devils. Here's the complete list of those who got cut:

Goaltenders: Dave Caruso, Scott Wedgewood, Maxime Clermont, Shane Owen

Defensemen: Mark Fayne, Dan Kelly, Tyler Miller, Chris Murray, Harry Young

Forwards: Matt Anderson, Jean-Sebastien Berube, Adam Henrique, Trevor Kell, Kory Nagy, Thomas Nesbitt, Nathan Perkovich, Louis Robitalle, Myles Stoesz, Darcy Zajac

Most of these players are now assigned to Albany Devils of the AHL.  This doesn't mean they'll definitely play there in 2010-11, some may be sent down another level and play for the Trenton Devils of the ECHL.  Four will go back their respective junior teams: Wedgewood (Plymouth), Clermont (Gatineau), Owen (Moncton), and Nesbitt (Ottawa). 

The most surprising cut on this list is Adam Henrique.  Back in July, there was some positivity about his chances.   When Gulitti interviewed him at the rookie camp, even Henrique felt he had an opportunity.  Given the Devils' need for centers and Henrique coming off a strong final year in junior, I thought he'd at least get a game.  Tomorrow would have been a good time to give him a shot since it was revealed Jacob Josefson has a sore foot and won't play.  I thought he'd get a good long look in camp before being sent down; but, he's in first group that was cut. 

Since training camp isn't open to the public, I can't say anything about how Henrique performed.  I truly do not know how well he did.  In retrospect, Adam Mair and Marcus Nilson coming in on try-out contracts could have undercut Henrique's (and other center's) chances. They are both capable of playing center, both are veterans, and both have played center at some point in the two preseason games they were in (Nilson filled in for Josefson last night).  While either may shore up the team's depth at center, it means someone's on the outside.  That someone may just be Henrique.   I did say in the preview that being sent down to the AHL wouldn't be the worst thing. It is Henrique's first season of pro hockey, after all.  Again, I'm just surprised that the decision was made now.

Turning that around, I look at who's left in camp and I'm surprised by a number of the names there.

 

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Gulitti's post also has a helpful list of the 43 players left in training camp.  I've bolded a number of names who have something in common:

 

Goaltenders (4): Martin Brodeur, Jeff Frazee, Johan Hedberg, Mike McKenna.

Defensemen (14): Matthew Corrente, Rob Davison, Tyler Eckford, Mark Fraser, Eric Gelinas, Andy Greene, Olivier Magnan-Grenier, Anssi Salmela, Bryce Salvador, Henrik Tallinder, Matt Taormina, Alexander Urbom, Anton Volchenkov, Colin White.

Forwards (25): Jason Arnott, David Clarkson, Patrick Davis, Patrik Elias, Stephen Gionta, Jacob Josefson, Ilya Kovalchuk, Jamie Langenbrunner, Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond, Adam Mair, David McIntyre, Brad Mills, Marcus Nilson, Nick Palmieri, Zach Parise, Rod Pelley, Brian Rolston, Tim Sestito, Michael Swift, Mattias Tedenby, Alexander Vasyunov, Chad Wiseman, Travis Zajac, Vladimir Zharkov, Dainius Zubrus.

All of the names I've bolded have not played a preseason game yet.  That strikes me as something odd.

Anssi Salmela is clearly among this group since he's still recovering from a serious knee injury suffered back in May. He's going to start the season on long term injured reserve, as reported earlier this month by Gulitti, so of course he hasn't played.  However, consider the other players.  Do any of those bolded aside from Salmela and possibly Eckford have a real shot of making it past the second set of cuts? All of them except for McIntyre played in Lowell for most of last season, and McIntyre joined Lowell after his senior season at Colgate anyway.  In my training camp preview, I regarded most of them as long shots to make it in New Jersey.  I still do, and I'd definitely include Sestito now that the fourth line center spot competition includes a recent challenger in Adam Mair, who's done well enough to get two straight preseason games. One would think that if they've played well in camp, they would have convinced MacLean to put them in one of the early preseason games, no?

Tyler Eckford is the only healthy player bolded on this list that doesn't make me raise my eyebrow.  He missed the early part of camp, mourning a death in his family, returning back on Sunday.  Given his skillset and that he's had a taste of the NHL, I can see the Devils putting him in a game.  After all, Matt Taormina and Eric Gelinas got one, why not the more experienced Eckford?

As for the rest, why are they still around? I can understand the desire for longer looks at played, and I concede it could be that they've done well enough in camp to not be cut and just not picked yet to be in a game.  Though, it is a little hard to swallow saying that, say, Patrick Davis has done well but not enough to get on a game lineup over, say, Nick Palmieri.   Then again, there are a lot of players in camp and only so many spots.  Perhaps that's the plan in New Jersey - we may see them put into a game situation soon, see how they do, and then the coaches have more reason to make a decision next week.   I can see that. I would understand that as the reason as to why they are still in Newark.  It would even help explain why Henrique was cut, since three of those bolded players - Sestito, McIntyre, and Swift - are centers. But if it's not the plan, then I'm just confused as to why they weren't cut along with the other 19 today. 

All the same, I wish those who were cut the best of luck.  Should they work hard and perform, who knows, we may see them during the season.  Those who survived the cuts, congratulations, but don't take it easy. The Devils have two preseason games in the next four days, and the second set of cuts may come after this coming Tuesday.  Keep working hard and make the decision of who to cut even more difficult.

Now that the Devils made their first set of cuts, I want to know what you think about this.  Are you surprised as to who they cut?  Are you surprised as to who they didn't cut? Please leave your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for reading.

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Players who dont play but make the cut...

That was an eye soarer when I read that players were getting through without playing a game. “All of the names I’ve bolded have not played a preseason game yet. That strikes me as something odd.” Maybe they performed well in camp and are being saved for some of the next 4 preseason games?

by Devils!!! on Sep 24, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty sure all of those guys will play an exhibition game. OMG got in 2 exhibition games last year. sestito and davis were in the NHL last year. swift got in an exhibition last year.

i don’t think it’s correct to say that mair has impressed. it’s just that mair is kind of an unknown quantity and NJ wants to see him as much as possible. likewise with nilson.

by Triumph44 on Sep 24, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

he did score a goal and stood up for pelley so thats good

by KovyisLove on Sep 24, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Couple reasons I think are why Henrique was cut so early

Although Henrique looks like a responsible, sound player, he never has shown any flashes of offensive ability in the rookie/prospect scrimmages that I watched or the intrasquad scrimmage on Monday.

by devilsfan2662 on Sep 24, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Something happened when I went to post but that was TG’s comment from earlier on his post regarding the players cut.
I think that because of that and Mair and Josefson’s performances in the two preseason game he was cut early

by devilsfan2662 on Sep 24, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did you see the scrimmages? They were closed to the public?

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by John Fischer on Sep 24, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. That’s Gulitti’s quote.

Next time, please use the quote button and link to where Gulitti actually said that.

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by John Fischer on Sep 24, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem, I am still figuring out everything still

by devilsfan2662 on Sep 24, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Mair is an interesting situation, because I don’t really know if he has a good chance to make the team. First, he has to impress enough that the coaches and Lou Lamorello believe he can be a third-line or fourth-line center. I think he also has to demonstrate the ability to be a regular on the PK — the lower two lines are going to have to shoulder at least some of that load as to decrease the burden on Parise, Zajac, Elias, et al. The other factor I see here is Rod Pelley. Rod has been given the opportunity to play center and work the PK, from the snippets I watched of the Rangers game on Thursday. If Pelley can handle being the 4th-line center and take a shift on the PK when needed, then I don’t see any need to sign Mair to do the same thing.

Marcus Nilsson is a different breed of cat, because he doesn’t seem to have a significant physical component to his game. At the same time, I think he’ll also have to be able to help on the PK to win a spot, considering the Devils are chock full o’ wings. I don’t really buy Nilson as a center.

The Davis, Eckford, and Sestito omissions strike me more as a situation where Johnny Mac has at least a partial idea of what is there, given he had them for long stretches at Lowell last season. I believe both players are in the mix, although they will have to get some time in a pre-season game before any final decisions are made. Also consider that we’re not 100% certain of what roles will be available for the kids, at least not until Lou makes some moves to clear salary cap space. If he moves two forwards, that will hurt the chances of someone like Eckford…. if it is one and one defenseman, that gives Eckford more of an opportunity and creates a numbers crunch on the wing (especially if the one is Zubrus, who you could slot as the #3 center if needbe).

by acasser on Sep 24, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I think if Mair doesn’t make the top 12 forwards he’ll get a contract and be an extra. That way we won’t have to keep a rookie up in NJ who could benefit from time in Albany.

by C.J. Richey on Sep 24, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t think players like sestito and davis really have anything to learn in the minor leagues. sestito will be a 6th year pro, davis a 5th year pro. if mair makes the team over them, it will be because he’s better.

don’t count out brad mills – i’m surprised he’s gotten 2 games, but maclean must like something he’s seeing.

by Triumph44 on Sep 24, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t say I see Mair being signed solely for the purpose of “not keeping a rookie up in NJ who could benefit from time in Albany”. That hasn’t been how the Devils have operated the last few years. Rather, we’ve seen the kids kept up as extras, skating and practicing with the team because the decision was made that there was more to be gained that way than by having them play against what was seen as “substandard” competition.

I think Tim Sestito is more likely to stick as an extra forward if he doesn’t cement a position on the fourth line, and perhaps Patrick Davis as well. Triumph44’s logic seems sound to me — they’ve spent enough time in the Minors and in the Devils’ system to know what they’re doing. In addition, they’re both under contract and Mair is not…. and I’m sure there is a budget line out there somewhere. There’s little purpose in handing Mair a small pile of cash to be an extra forward when you’ve got guys you already have to pay to fill the position.

by acasser on Sep 25, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s little purpose in handing Mair a small pile of cash to be an extra forward when you’ve got guys you already have to pay to fill the position.

I don’t know, that small pile of cash may be a NHL minimum salary. There is a reason why no one signed Mair to a contract, he’s not going to demand a lot. Plus, the only guys in the system who would make $500,000 in the NHL are Davison, Sestito, Davis, McKenna, Wiseman, and Magnan-Grenier, per CapGeek. But all of them aren’t on the active roster so, they aren’t costing the Devils anything.

Basically, the question comes down to who’s the best among Mair, Davis, Sestito, and Wiseman. A guy who’s been in the NHL for the past several seasons, or one of three guys who’ve been AHL vets and sort of on the cusp? Just based on who’s getting the games, it seems Mair is winning that competition.

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by John Fischer on Sep 25, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

But all of them aren’t on the active roster so, they aren’t costing the Devils anything.

I have to disagree here. They get paid some amount whether they are in New Jersey or in Albany. Sure, the figure might be different on a two-way contract, where they get $500k in NJ and say $100k in Albany…. but they aren’t playing for free. I honestly don’t know who signs the paychecks of the guys in Albany, but I wouldn’t be at all shocked if that was Vanderbeek’s job as well. It isn’t always that way in sports with Minor Leagues…. when I was growing up, I lived down the street from a couple of guys who owned Minor League baseball clubs, and they had part of the obligation to pay the guys on their roster. I suppose that gets into the financial relationships and ownership situations, which is beyond my knowledge.

My point is that those other guys are under contract, so there is an existing obligation there to pay them this season. Right now, Adam Mair isn’t making anything more than the training camp per diem, and there is no need to pay him if they decide he won’t make the roster. While the Devils have certainly indicated they will spend to the cap, maybe over the cap (if demoting Zubrus and/or Salvador to the Minors is their avenue to get underneath the Upper Limit), I imagine there is some point where Vanderbeek will say “That’s it, the vault is closed.” There is a budget there…. but it isn’t like someone has come out and stated it the way some other teams (e.g., Dallas, Phoenix) have.

Just based on who’s getting the games, it seems Mair is winning that competition.

Certainly a reasonable explanation…. although I’m not necessarily buying that. I still think they’re trying to evaluate Mair in a number of situations under which they haven’t really seen him. Videotape can tell you some things, practice can give you some ideas as well, but there’s no true substitute for the coaches and scouts having eyes on the guy in live, “real” action and passing judgment. MacLean has seen a bunch of these guys, even even put them through certain situations while coaching them at Albany. There’s a degree of familiarity and perhaps even a bias there that doesn’t exist with Adam Mair.

by acasser on Sep 25, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of the names I’ve bolded have not played a preseason game yet. That strikes me as something odd.

Not so odd. There were 62 players in camp, you can dress 20 for each game, only 2 (regular pre-season) games have been played, and I’m sure there are more than 20 rookies eligible for the rookie game yesterday, so some players HAVE to have not played a game, just no 2 ways about it. Now if they haven’t played after tomorrow, then that’s meaningful.

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by FrankG929 on Sep 24, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

By jove, you're right.

I don’t know who jove is. Is jove a he? A she? Or just righteous?

Aaaaah, I see your point, there are so many roster spots so someone’s on the outside. And if they aren’t playing tonight or Tuesday, then it really makes no sense.

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by John Fischer on Sep 24, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a he

Jove is a euphemism for Jupiter, the Roman King of Gods. See here and/or here.

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by FrankG929 on Sep 24, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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