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New Jersey Devils Fall 2-1 to Minnesota Wild with a New & Frustrating Way to Lose

I have to hand it to the New Jersey Devils. After 38 recaps, 28 games that did not end with the Devils winning this season, and a December where they lost 6 games by at least 3 goals, you'd think I'd seen all the ways a team could lose a hockey game and I'd be fine with it. I thought so.  Then came tonight's game against the Minnesota Wild.  Funny that after all of the blowouts and games lost due to stupid, controllable careless errors by the Devils themselves, the 2-1 loss to the Wild makes me want to punch a brick wall until my hand breaks.

It was one of those games where you feel like walking up to a Devils staff member and asking for your money back.  Fans aren't totally stupid, they want to see an honest effort at a minimum. Yet, several Devils went through the motions in spite of Jacques Lemaire running them through hard practices they needed in September.  The first period was so bad it almost doesn't deserve the dignity of being discussed. The second period was actually quite good, but it was thrown away in a third period where the Devils just slipped back.  

The Wild were not great tonight, but against the kind of performance New Jersey put out, they didn't need to be great. Just good enough, and that's what the Wild were tonight.  Simple stuff up the ice, once they earned that third period one goal lead, they sat on it as if to say, "We're pretty confident you can't get one more goal," and the Devils responded with, "Yep.  Now here's another dumped puck we're not going to get to first."  Don't misunderstand me, Minnesota fans.  They deserved to win tonight if only because the Wild players largely played like they cared about hockey tonight. Something I cannot say about the Devils tonight.

I have a few more thoughts on tonight's game after the jump.  Please visit Hockey Wilderness for a Minnesota take on tonight's game.

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The Devils did not play in the first period.  The entire team save for Johan Hedberg and perhaps some of the defensemen (e.g. Colin White, Mark Fraser) simply went through the motions. The Minnesota Wild, were they to live up to their name, had every chance to rampage over a clearly disinterested New Jersey squad.  Instead, they settled for only 8 shots and torched the lackadaisical home team when Ilya Kovalchuk lost the puck going north-south on a breakout outside of the blueline (which was bad) to Cal ClutterbuckAnssi Salmela promptly fell for no reason at all (which was worse), and so gave Clutterbuck a lane to go one-on-one with Hedberg and won. 

What exacerbated this was the absolute lack of offense by the Devils. One shot on net. One. The Wild weren't doing something exotic or brilliant on defense, the Devils simply failed over and over to pass the puck going forward and dumped the puck repeatedly only to lose every time.  For the first 12 minutes or so, the game could simply be broken down into: Wild get puck into New Jersey end, Wild possess the puck, Wild gets a shot on net, Devils get a stop at some point, dump it out, go for a line change as the Wild collect the puck, repeat.  In the rare shift where the Devils got it past the Minnesota blueline, they passed up (or gave up) nearly whatever small opportunity to shoot they had. Even on a New Jersey Devils power play in the first period.  No wonder Theodore could have been reading a magazine throughout the first period and would have been fine.

I know it's best to set up a good shot, but if it takes well over 10 minutes to get just one shot on net, then just fire away.  So what if it goes right to Jose Theodore; at least he can be forced to freeze the puck instead of giving the puck back to Minnesota, who turned that possession into attack.  Alas, that didn't cross their minds as the Devils played with no thoughts at all in the first period.  At least the performance proved that, no, the Devils do not play harder with a goaltender other than Martin Brodeur behind them.  That idea is now d-e-a-d, dead dead dead.

At least I can credit the Devils for waking up for the second period and playing like, well, a professional hockey team.  The difference between the first and second was night and day.  The Devils actually got pucks on net in the second period.  Even on an early power play.   They even scored a goal, when Ilya Kovalchuk finished a fine movement that he started in his own end.  He hit Nick Palmieri perfectly on a diagonal pass for him to go forward, Palmieri wisely gives it to Travis Zajac and goes to the net, and Zajac gives it to Kovalchuk on Theodore's right side. While Palmieri screens Theodore, Kovalchuk slides a low shot that beats the goalie to tie the game and redeem his earlier error.  

Even after that goal, the Devils continued to attack forcing Theodore to, well, do something. Sure, the second period had it's lulls but the Devils simply outplayed the Wild, out-shot them 14-4, and tied up the game.  The fans that rightfully booed the home team off the rink after the first, rightfully cheered the home team off the rink after the second. 

The third period had one of the biggest "derps" of the season occur. It's part of the "highlights" video from NHL.com. Go take a look in case you haven't seen this blooper yet:

Johan Hedberg, for some inexplicable reason, went behind the net after Clayton Stoner appeared to dump the puck from the neutral zone.  Yet, the puck hits a support on the glass and bounces right into the net.  On the one hand, it's a fluke.  It sucks, it happens, the sun rises tomorrow, and so you move on.  On the other hand, Hedberg had no reason to be out of his net that early.  Because it was a dump-in, even if he waited to make sure it would go around, he'd have the time to get it.  And if not, then one of his teammates would get it.  Basically, Hedberg took a risk coming out assuming the puck would go where it would be and he paid the price for his assumption. In conclude in favor of derp.  Stay in your net next time, Moose.

And the worst part about that was that it just killed the Devils.  The Devils didn't recover. They slipped back into that first period "form."  The team attempted to do the same thing over and over on offense: dump it in, not get the puck, try and fail to keep it in the clearing attempt, and repeat.  The Wild didn't need to attack because the Devils reverted to the idiocy they showed in the first period.  Sure, some Devils tried to break the mold and do something - Ilya Kovalchuk, Patrik Elias, Vladimir Zharkov, whenever he got a shift - but the team mostly banged their head against the wall hoping for a break that never came.  Theodore had to worry more about pucks bouncing off his own teammates instead of New Jersey's shots.

The defense? Hey, outside of Salmela falling, the defense was pretty good. The Wild weren't great themselves at going forward and the Devils were wise to protect their slot with strength.  White, Andy Greene, and Anton Volchenkov had a good game in their own end.  Fraser had a decent enough game in his return from injury; though his breakout passes sucked.  But that was never a skill of his and pretty much all of the blueliners were bad on the breakout tonight.  Their passing was just as horrid as most of the forwards. The Wild were held to 18 shots on net and most of them were simple enough for Hedberg to stop.  Outside of the one he was hung out to dry on (Clutterbuck) and the one that he's responsible for (Stoner), of course.

Yet, I repeat, hockey is a game of flow and without a decent attack, it's a lost cause. The power play had none. The passing was atrocious.  The shooting was pedestrian. What bothers me the most now was that the positioning was miserable. Yes, there's such a thing on offense - knowing where to go and how to face yourself off the puck.  As an example, there was shift in the second period where Kovalchuk is possessing the puck for a good 15 seconds around the right circle on Minnesota's end.  He was deking out defenders, curling away to protect the puck, and  such.  It was impressive to see, but it was ultimately lost.  Why?  Well, he kept going not because he was selfish but because he had no outs.  There were nobody in Devils red near him for him to pass the puck away to keep the possession alive.  Kovalchuk is no puck fiend, he'll gladly pass it to a teammate if he's in a spot where he can pass it to. On that shift, nobody came over, they went away thinking Kovalchuk will do it all himself.  I know it's one shift, but it's symbolic of the poor positioning.

Of course, after a loss like this, the scapegoats come out. Truthfully, there's a lot of blame for mostly everyone; Jacques Lemaire included, for quite a few head-scratching game decisions.  Like to scratch a healthy Mattias Tedenby; to give Tim Sestito over 14 minutes of even strength ice time (seriously, it's in the event summary), to hold Vladimir Zharkov to a little over 7 minutes of total ice time (again, in the event summary); to split up a successful line like Patrik Elias-Jason Arnott-Jamie Langenbrunner which didn't benefit either (the Corsi chart proves this); to play Brian Rolston at all; and to not instruct his team to stop constantly dumping pucks in after it was clear in the first period that the Devils weren't going to get to those pucks.  If it didn't work the first 10 times, it unsurprisingly didn't work on the 11th attempt. This approach especially undercut the power play.  Was it fixed? No, of course not. Overall, the forward combinations Lemaire stuck with weren't successful, the defensemen were fine in their own end but out-of-step on the breakout, and the lack of adjustments held the team back tonight in a close game. 

I'm confident Lemaire will get it right going forward, but I must say, this game doesn't reflect well on him. At least he benched Salmela after his literal flop.  John MacLean wouldn't have done that.  That all being vented, any coaching staff is going to look bad when the players play with this kind of cynicism.  I'll call out a few players that I feel deserve to be called out.

Brian Rolston's contribution to tonight's game was to do barely enough on his shifts to look like he did something.  He played 17:36, got 2 shots, and lollygagged on the ice in between the few times he was involved in an event.  One would think that after being waived, brought back up through waivers unclaimed, and telling the press he wants to be a NHL player that he'd want whatever he can to prove the point that he belongs as a Devil - bad contract aside. That he can be of some value to this team.  Nope. Actions speak louder than words and Brian Rolston's actions tonight muttered, "Eh, whatever. I'm getting paid anyway." 

With all due respect, Mr. Rolston, in an ideal world, you would be walking to upstate New York after tonight's game while having your spot filled in by someone who wants to be a New Jersey Devil.  Unfortunately, this is not an ideal world.

David Clarkson, who got to play 12:53 tonight (also ahead of Zharkov), demonstrated that he fully deserves to be on the Devils' fourth line. He wasn't physical, which looks pretty bad since Nick Palmieri threw his weight around more (and more effectively).  He took a bad offensive zone penalty by hooking Greg Zanon, who bailed NJ out of a PK situation by ridiculously embellishing the hook. He floated in the defensive zone. He was in position to fire pucks on net - and it's the fourth line, even just shooting is a feat for this line - and chose not to shoot for the most part.  Like Adam Mair and Rod Pelley, I'm increasingly confused as to what Clarkson does to help this team win hockey games.  Perhaps he and Rolston can take a trip to, oh I don't know, Albany and find out.

Speaking of Albany, Tim Sestito needs to go back there.  I'm sure he would be a useful depth forward somewhere. But I'm sick of the rationalizations that "he can skate" and "he has some skills."  I have yet to see either being done correctly.  Which makes it all the more confusing that he got so much ice time (including 1:31 on the power play) over someone like Zharkov, who actually has shown he can skate and has some skills. Please take Nick Palmieri back with you, too.  He should have to prove that he can be a productive player in Albany before getting more shifts with offensive players like Elias, Kovalchuk, and Zajac.

I get the feeling that tonight showed that when some players are having an awful night - and it does happen - it can have a profound effect on the rest of the team.  Jamie Langenbrunner has done fairly well in the last three games, but tonight he got the anchor that is Rolston on his off-wing and so it kept Langenbrunner from doing too much.  So he wasn't a factor. Since Lemaire was switching up centers Zajac, Jason Arnott, and Patrik Elias, to mix things up, they got shifts with those two and their poor play affected them too.  Ultimately, you're left wondering why everyone looks bad and why all sorts of combinations aren't working.  That's the best way I can explain it.

Needless to say, based on Tom Gulitti's post-game post, the Devils are unhappy about the loss. Fine, but they have no one but themselves to blame - puck bouncing off the glass or no puck bouncing off the glass. As noted at the beginning, the Wild weren't great tonight, just better than New Jersey. A Devils team that wasn't so stupid perhaps could have won this game. A Devils team that had all of it's players care could have won this game. Alas, they didn't and they found a new way to frustrate themselves and a Devils fanbase that have gone through a lot of losses already.

That's my take on this horrendous game. I apologize for some of the anger with respect to some of the players I called out, but I hope you at least see where I was coming from.  Please leave your thoughts and feelings about tonight's game in the comments. I want to thank the commenters and readers of the Gamethread, and to thank you for reading this recap. By that alone, you given more effort than the home team's first period against Minnesota.

Oh, and this team gets to play the Second-Rate Rivals, Philadelphia, on Thursday.  Great.  Just great.

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All the devils talk about having a good start but they rarely do. I don’t understand this because they all have trainers to get the game ready. So what’s the problem with not having that energy. I know losing all the time can bring you down but it’s your job deal with it and fix it.

by Kyle Hamelin on Jan 5, 2011 12:24 AM EST reply actions  

Dont know what to think anymore

No need to apologize John. Seems like you hit the breaking point finally like most of us did weeks ago. I know you probably feel that you have to be professional presenting us this train wreck game after game. It feels good to let loose once in a while.

I can’t figure out why Tedenby was scratched, or why Zharkov barely gets any minutes. There are plenty of fat cats that should be riding pine above them. There are so many bad plays and decisions being made by everyone, yet it barely impacts their ice time.

I kinda saw a silver lining in all this since the season is essentially over. I thought all our real prospects would get plenty of valuable playing time. Now is the time to do it. They make a mistake, big deal, play on, live and learn. Instead they get Bergforsed, it can’t be good for their development playing in fear of making a mistake and possibly benched. It seemed Jmac let the kids play a lot, almost to a fault and now Lemaire is the exact opposite.

by Johnny33 on Jan 5, 2011 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

Sestito on the powerplay with less than 10 minutes to go. To me that says it all.

by JoeyV on Jan 5, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

This team is cursed for some reason. I’ve been watching replays of the fluke goal and it just happened to bounce over Moose’s paddle at the exact time he stuck it out there. It was bouncing the whole time, but it looked like it was loosing it’s elasticity, then it just shot up again.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Jan 5, 2011 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

The whole team has largely been a disappointment this year, but there are definitely certain players that have stood out as exceptionally being let downs. If it wasn’t for Andy Greene and his failure to make the leap to a higher level (costing himself a big payday next year as a result), I would give the award to David Clarkson. I feel like he is getting worse and worse every game. He can’t stay on his feet. He can’t put any substantial shots on net when driving into the zone. And there have been occasions, like around the 2:57 mark in the recap video, where he blows a golden opportunity. I don’t know if his injury last year has anything to do with it (I would imagine it’s just a coincidence), but since he’s come back from missing substantial time last year, I don’t believe he has been very effective at all. Maybe I’m just looking for ways to be critical of him during games. To me, however, it seems like he can;t pass, skate, or shoot. He doesn’t receive passes cleanly and did I mention he can;t seem to stay on his feet when there’s nothing in his path? Well, he has 0 points in 15 games so maybe I’m not crazy.

Is he even a tradeable asset at this point? He has looked so inept at times that I can’t imagine another team wanting him, even at a cap hit of 2.66M. Then again, utter frustration might be clouding my judgment.

by JoeyV on Jan 5, 2011 3:51 AM EST reply actions  

I can't see anyone taking Clarkson at that salary

Without us throwing in someone else.

Its super disappointing. He seems like a pretty decent guy. He is one of the more affable guys if you get to meet him at some of the fan events. He went out of his way to say hi to my 6 year old sun a couple of years ago when we went to a skate around.

With any kind of production, he would be a total fan favorite. But right now he really should not be playing anywhere but the minors

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by Devilssection21fan on Jan 5, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Zharkov

Zharkov made an absolutely stellar defensive play in this game, too, separating a Wild player from the puck on a breakaway without committing a penalty. Not sure why he doesn’t get more minutes; he looks quite good out there.

by sjohnson125 on Jan 5, 2011 6:54 AM EST reply actions  

I saw 10 minutes played where the Devs played like they did in the Rangers game or the Atlanta win. Then it just kinda…stopped. Then the third…after the bad bounce, it just seemed like the Devs gave up, like some cosmic force was going to stop them from winning the game and they gave up. Its a confidence issue. I have saying it, but its true. If they won a few games, or managed to score more than one goal a game, a bad bounce wouldn’t have the same effect.

Hey JL…I know you liek to change things up on a game to game basis, let me help:

1. Glad to see Volchenkov is getting close to 20. I’d like to see him more on the PP. Setting up along the outside isn’t working. He’s got a really hard shot, and even though less than accurate, it’s hard enough that it can rebound off theboards to the front of the net. And if they cycle is dying, he’s got the strength to pinch and get it down.

2. NickieP doesn’t need 15 minutes. And Zharkie gets more than 7.

3. Tedenby is going to be with this team for a while. It would be nice for him to get minutes. If you aren’t going to play him, let’s send him back to Albany. He worked harder as a healthy scratch than a couple of guys who make a few $M a year last night. Hows about you bench one ot two of those guys, or are you afraid of hurting their feelings? Heads up, no one on this team will be playing a playoff game this year, and you aren’t going to be here next year, so we don’t have to worry about hurt feelings come April.

4. Thank you for the discipline. It was refreshing to not be on the penalty kill, although they guys are generally good at it. Can we please give an entire practice to Oats to practice the PP. When I played, we practiced screening (which was nicely executed on Kovy’s goal last night, but invisible on three pps) and rebound generation and recovery. That’s how you score on a pp. Go. Practice it. Please.

5. With Fraser healthy we have at least 3, probably 3.5-4 or 5 good thumpers on this team. If the team is going to manage a whole 1 shot on goal in the first, can we at least make them feel like they’ve played 4 periods at the end of 1? If we can’t beat them, beat the hell outta them. The Devils are scoring like its 1939, they might as well play like it too. Its pretty clear the Devs aren’t a high scoring team, or a defense first team any more, maybe there needs to be three different teams depending on period. Thugs in the 1st. Balls to the wall offense in the second, and responsible D in the third? At this point, I’ll try anything short of cannibalism to find a win. Unless you think that will help.

by Murdoc on Jan 5, 2011 7:10 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Start with Phily

Thug it up vs Phily. Us fans need something to look forward to.

by NJHockey8 on Jan 5, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is Pierre Leblond (PL3). Certainly not the answer, but he couldn’t hurt. Maybe he can throw his weight around and shake the team up a little!!! I totally agree about Clarkson. He spends more time falling than he does skating. What a frustrating group of guys!!!!

by bsc1114 on Jan 5, 2011 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

If l lived in Albany.....

Please don’t send Rolston and Clarkson to us. All kidding aside, there are a few more that need to get to know the capital of NY a little better.

Regarding Tedenby/Zharkov’s playing time vs Sestitos and other new guys, perhaps the organization wants to see the borderline guys a bit more and trying to position for next season. Tedenby and Zharkov showed some flash and will probably get a fair share of time with remainder of the season. I am all for letting new guys play and send down non-performing veterns.

by TaiDevils on Jan 5, 2011 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

Clarkson actually didn’t have a bad game last night – he drew two penalties, which is a huge rarity – normally he draws none and/or takes one himself. Still, that fourth line got way too much ice time. I don’t know if Jacques was trying to get other lines to rip ice time away from them, or if he thought their mucking would pay off – whatever the case, they generated like one scoring chance in 13 minutes. Tim Sestito needs to be taken away from Lemaire right quick.

It’s basically a countdown to when the vets get pawned off.

by Triumph44 on Jan 5, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t know if I would consider it in the sense that “he drew two penalties” since he was in the box both times as well. A mutual roughing call and a dive aren’t exactly positives for Mr. Clarkson

by JoeyV on Jan 5, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

he drew the penalty on brent burns as well, and it was a double minor for roughing to staubitz. that’s 2 penalties drawn.

by Triumph44 on Jan 5, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The burns penalty was drawn by palmieri and I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on whether or not Clarkson drew the roughing penalty.

by JoeyV on Jan 5, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

incorrect, i am 98% sure that was clarkson.

by Triumph44 on Jan 5, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The play by play at NHL.com, which as far as I know is the official one used for events, has it listed here:

92 1 EV 19:50 (0:10) PENL MIN #8 BURNS Holding(2 min) Drawn By: N.J #32 PALMIERI

But this may be an error: the Devils skaters listed as on the ice for that event were 25, 26, 12, 2, 6, 1. So not even Clarkson or Palmieri were there according to the on-ice numbers, but the scorer said Palmieri drew the call.

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by John Fischer on Jan 5, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wonder where would would be with Zach in the Lineup

Now look, we werent good for the time here was here and healthy early on in the season. But we still had a shot at making the playoffs then. I just wonder with Zachs hustle and intensity, would we have gotten some concrete lines that would perform (mayble the ZIP Line). Would we have more confidence and see Zach shine in that locker room as a leader. Would the ZZ POP line come back and Jamie and TJac be having better seasons? Because while the Devs have been blown out in alot of their losses, they have also lost aot of games because we cant light the damn lamp.

I know that one player dosent change a team and with the depth the Devs have, they should still be OK without Zach in the lineup, but I just wonder if number 9 would have made a difference

by Marty'sBetter on Jan 5, 2011 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

I think having a healthy Parise would make a huge difference for this team. He’s that good. There are some players that just make everyone else around them better, and he’s one of them.

And yeah, they did have him for the first 12 games (I think), and they weren’t great … but remember, he wasn’t healthy. The injury was bothering him at that time, too. It’s all speculation, but my feeling is that yes, this season would be a lot different with a healthy Parise.

by dasru on Jan 5, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not so sure. Its pretty damn evident that this isn’t a “one player” problem. If it were, given the number of guys in and out of the lineup so far this season, he would have been identified, eliminated and replaced for good. The problem is systemic. This team has not changed to meet the challenge of the post-lockout NHL. I guess it’s fortunate that another one is looming, and the possibility exists that they could skip one evolution of hockey in North America all together. The team as it stands is a not a team. Be it a result of injury, cap issues, nostalgia or a smattering of all of them, it is a collection of parts tossed onto the ice with the expectation that each of them is capable of performing their job independantly without regard for the fact that hockey is a team sport, and one in which timing, positioning and intensity disparities among players is blatantly obvious and extremely detrimental to the quality of play.

It’s a brutally tough spot to be in. One guy cannot raise his level of play, or be situationally and positionally responsible, or more physical and have an overwhelming effect if the other 5 guys on the ice cannot do the same, at the same time. These are things that come with practice, familiarity, and matching players according to actual skillsets, rather than salaries or perceived skillsets. Switching lines every game, bag skates, conditioning drills and the like are not the answers that are going to make things right the second half of this season or the next.

There needs to be a significant roster turnover (not necessarily in numbers) and a player leadership issue resolved. Yeah, I went there. While its true that one guy elevating his play will have very little effect on the outcome of a game, if most of the guys on the ice at the time do so, not only will performance be improved, but the identification of problem players is made that much easier. Contrast and all that. A coach can skate you, yell at you or try to help your confidence problems (another important, unfortunately intangible factor) until he smashes a jelly jar, but it isn’t going to help a whole lot. It’s going to take someone to shame the rest of the team into following his example to get this team playing to their “on paper” capabilites. One guy staying after practice, alone, to take shooting practice or skating fly-aways. Passing drills alone with the boards, silently screaming for someone to get out there with him.

I don’t know what’s going on behind management’s doors, or the inside the lockerroom. That doesn’t stop me from not liking the way personnel issues have been handled since July. From players leaving, to players signed, to the non-action on signing others, to the handling of near-immovable objects. Its not the whole problem, but its a part of it. I want this team to succeed, but I am now afraid that the necessary rushing of prospects has challenged them developmentally and damaged potential in more than case had they rather been permitted to remain in Albany for conditioning and maturation.

A healthy Parise might have a positive impact on the rest of the team, however, I have yet to witness anything consistant from the rest of the team to suggest that they’d be able to score more than 1 goal a game or put together three solid periods in one game. We saw what they can do in the Atlanta game. Its possible. I wish I knew why they couldn’t do it every game.

by Murdoc on Jan 5, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know how much Parise could have done to avert this shipwreck.

The team was 3-8-1 (.292 point percentage) after the Los Angeles game (the last one he played)…. and they’re 7-19-1 (.278 point percentage) since. The team scored 20 goals in 12 games (1.67 per game) with him and 49 goals in 27 games (1.81 per game) without him. Some will say that I’m cherry-picking particular stats to make my case…. but all I want to demonstrate here is that Parise’s injury didn’t cause a nosedive in the standings or in the team’s offense. It’s muddled along at roughly the same pace without him.

I think you’ve got the root problem pegged, however. This is a team built for another era. I’ve said time and time again that I believe this team to be the reincarnation of the 2006-2007 Flyers, which is another team that was “built for another era” and finished dead last in the League much to the surprise of a lot of smart “pundits”. The league has evolved to the point where skill players can do their thing, and defenses have to be mobile and help in the offense. We’ve got a handful of players who can do the former, and precious little of the latter.

At this point, I’m less concerned with the mess in front of us insofar as how it got to this situation. I want Lou to grab a shovel and start cleaning it out, instead. Trade off some of the veteran pieces, try and get some prospects and picks to re-build around the core (Kovy, Parise, Elias, Volchenkov, Brodeur). There’s no particular reason this team can’t bounce back next year to where we’re accustomed to seeing it.

The Flyers rebounded from their “lost season” to reach the Eastern Conference Finals (albeit as a #6 seed) the next season, and the Stanley Cup Finals two years after that. Can the Devils do the same?

by acasser on Jan 5, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

But parise was injured in those #s

by KovyisLove on Jan 5, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, Parise was injured even when he was playing. However, he felt it was mild enough to go in those games, and either the franchise knew about it and let Parise make his own judgment or the franchise was in the dark. It wasn’t as if Parise was playing fourth-line minutes, either…. his ATOI this season is north of 20 minutes.

Might the offense have been better with Parise at 100%? Sure, it probably would have been, both because Parise would have been in better condition and the secondary ripples likely dictate that there wouldn’t be as much focus on the other lines and players (e.g., some guy named “Kovalchuk”).

I don’t think Parise’s injury was the problem, or enough of the problem to be noticeable amidst the rest of the carnage. The team’s problems are so vast that any one thing isn’t the issue, here. Not a player, not the coach, not the cap.

by acasser on Jan 5, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree to a point, but I’m still baffled by what this team has accomplished this year.

Firstly, the numbers while Parise in the lineup may or may not be relevant because he was admittedly not playing at 100%.

Second, my speculation that things would be “different” if Parise was in the lineup is a completely un-measureable statement that is based purely on how much he means to the team and to the locker room.

You’re definitely right that there are systemic issues with the team’s make up, but how different was the team’s mobility on defense last year? Not very. Fraser played in almost 70 games, Salvador didn’t provide much offensively, and Martin/Oduya were injured for spurts. I’m not even going to mention Mottau. Regardless of this, they were a competitive team all season. No, they didn’t compete against a well built Flyer team in the playoffs, but they weren’t this bad.

This team is absolutely mind-boggling. They are just that bad. To me, it isn’t the roster that is causing this. They seem to have lost a mental edge and their confidence is entirely gone. Having a hard working, relentless superstar in the lineup in Parise would likely make a difference, in my opinion.

Now, there’s a whole other conversation to be had as to how far a team like last year’s and this year’s (roster wise) can go in the playoffs. Not far. But this year’s performance goes far beyond the roster issues.

by dasru on Jan 5, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, healthy Martin and healthy Parise were certainly parts of the equation. As is the absence of players currently on the team. Tallinder, who for the first 30 games or so, was no where even remotely close to the “steady” defenseman he was billed as. He was a liability every time he hit the ice. Only recently has he started performing well. The inexplicably paltry amounts of ice-time Volchenkov saw. I know, he got hurt, but the guy is a #2 or 3 defenseman in this league, and he was looked at as nothing more than a thumper, at least that’s what I ahve to think given his ice time and when he was used.

The most important part is that evolution isn’t instant, and as every other team in the league seems to pay attention to what is successful and what is not, and change their gameplans, personnel or philosophy to maintain a level of competition, or gasp get better each year. The Devils have remained status quo for what…12, 13 years now? Keeping the same anitquated game and style, just replacing parts when they got too rusty or too squeaky? That’s not evolution, it’s bringing a sword to a gunfight and not recognizing that the next time you step up, you should probably bring a gun.

by Murdoc on Jan 5, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think last years team could have had plenty of success in the playoffs if they didn’t draw Phily. As I remember it, we had a regular season winning record against 7 of the 8 eastern playoff teams – with the losing record being against Phily.

But you’re right that this years team is mind boggling. Could it be that the training camp was so poor, that the team lost its edge?

by NJHockey8 on Jan 5, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

pre season was promising and so were the first 7:30 of the season…. if only we won that game …

by KovyisLove on Jan 5, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t recall who said it, but someone on these boards mentioned that there is probably some alternate universe out there right now where that Kovy shot in the first game goes in instead of hitting the post (the Stars later scored in that sequence).

In that alternate universe, the Devils are now 27-10-2.

by dasru on Jan 5, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

(waves his hand) That was my statement.

I will admit to being something of an alternate history geek in my readings, although much more now in terms of historical-based counterfacturals instead of sci-fi explanations (think the old TV series Sliders for the latter). That’s where the idea comes from.

by acasser on Jan 5, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you suggest some books? I caught a weird movie where all the famous African American athlete’s live in Canada instead of the US. If I remember correctly, it is because the South won the Civil War. Makes for an interesting hypothetical.

by NJHockey8 on Jan 6, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

The premiere fiction-based alternate history writer is Harry Turtledove. Some of his stuff is pure sci-fi, such as his “Worldwar” series that I’ve never bothered to pick up. Most of the rest of his alternate history is more plausible, and I find it quite enjoyable. There was a very lengthy series of books (11 running in chronological order) starting with a older title “How Few Remain” (wherein the South won the Civil War in 1862) and covering an alternate timeline through World War II and the re-unification (by force) of the United States. He’s also written a number of other novel-length books (several hundred pages just in hardcover) off of other changes in the timeline.

The other alternate history I enjoy reading is written largely by (military) historians, and found in the History section of a bookstore (as opposed to the Fiction section). Most of those are anthologies, where a particular writer examines a specific event or series of events and builds an alternate history from there. The author/editor most involved in compiling these was Robert Crowley…. but these are older titles and may not be easy to find in stores anymore.

by acasser on Jan 6, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Appreciate it. Will have to look up Crowley.

by NJHockey8 on Jan 10, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, at least something similar, why not.

I just hope that this mess and the perceived opportunity to give the young guys time (which it is, but far too soon in my opinion) doesn’t ruin any of the previous prospect and draft work that has been up to this point. We’ve already had several of them hurt, missing significant time, benched instead of getting time in Albany, and so on. That’s the part that has me worried. These guys are good, no doubt. But they sure aren’t NHLers this year. At least not on any other team. It’d be disasterous to lose one or more of them because they were rushed.

by Murdoc on Jan 5, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And John you are right about Heddy

The first thing I thought was not how much that was a fluke goal (although it was). But Hedberg was out of the net too early there. I mean geez the bad turn of the puck came up near the blue line, Heddy was back there way too early. Just that kind of season.

by Marty'sBetter on Jan 5, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

This game was a microcosm of our entire season. Large periods of idyllic play interspersed with a few bursts of energy and effort from the team. Kovalchuk trying to carry the team on his back and getting little help in the process…. and usually failing at the effort. An inability to score, in general, and a pathetic power play. And that one ridiculous bounce that goes against us…. although that isn’t the first crummy bounce off the boards this year that has resulted in a superbly soft goal against.

Welcome to Stages 4-5, John. It’s rather crowded in here, but I suspect someone will give you their seat so you don’t have to stand by the door.

by acasser on Jan 5, 2011 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

Man that was ugly

The first period was unwatchable. Can somebody explain why Sestito and Palmeiri are on the ice in the third period during a critical power-play? Maybe I’m being overly critical, but does Andy Greene have the slowest release in hockey? Right now, David Clarkson is an absolute waste of $3 million. Another game… 1 goal scored. I don’t care what team you are, that type of offensive effort can’t overcome one bad bounce. I’m tired of the “we don’t get any breaks” complaining. There is a great saying that goes “chance favors the prepared mind.” And it doesn’t seem like New Jersey’s minds are prepared.

by Devil in CT on Jan 5, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

The first period was terrible,

but I have to say that what I saw I was impressed with Vladimir Zharkov and Rod Pelley. First of all I dont understand what Johhny Mac was thinking leaving Zharkov in the minors, he looked good last year and we needed to try and develope him a little more at NHL level. Secondly, Pelley seems like he is working really hard and I think he is a feasible 3rd/4th line center/wing at the NHL level. Lastly, did Tedenby play last night? I watched the game and I didnt hear his name at all.

by Jacob Shepherd on Jan 5, 2011 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Rod Pelley is the only guy on the team to have played every minute he’s been on the ice this year.

And to answer your question:

Of course, after a loss like this, the scapegoats come out. Truthfully, there’s a lot of blame for mostly everyone; Jacques Lemaire included, for quite a few head-scratching game decisions. Like to scratch a healthy Mattias Tedenby;

by Murdoc on Jan 6, 2011 6:48 AM EST up reply actions  

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