Why the Devils Shouldn't Dwell Over Loss to Penguins
Yes, it was ugly. The Devils played yet another penalty filled game and for the first time all season, Johan Hedberg looked less than brilliant. The best way I can think to describe the Devils' play in tonights's game is to call it a roller coaster ride. We had some ups but most will agree that it was predominantly downs, and despite how many shots we got or how we played in the second period, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone willing to describe our performance during any part of the game as dominant.
Despite the sloppy play I still believe that the scoresheet doesn't tell the true tale of what type of game it was, but nonetheless it is what it is and the Penguins official website now boasts about "rolling" the Devils 4-1.
Taking these factors into consideration, it's my belief that there were some circumstances that handicapped the Devils going into this game. Below I will elaborate further on this and also explain why I hope the Devils don't lose too much sleep over this one.
After tonight's game the first thing that came to my head was a great quote John made just after our first loss of the season. Everyone knows how abysmal last season went and here we were, starting our year of redemption by getting shutout in our home opener against our second most hated rivals.
As long time readers of this site will tell you, I'm not big on adages that aren't necessarily supported by the facts. I prefer to look at the underlying numbers rather simply rely on what I've seen and remember. That said, I believe the chief cause in the New Jersey Devils' 3-0 loss to the Philadelphia Flyers can be boiled down to the fact that the Flyers have played a hockey game earlier this week and the Devils haven't.
I was at the game and can attest that it would have been easy to put the panic train right back on the tracks, but in John's postgame analysis he had the maturity and poise to not only outline a few reasons why that night was not as bad as it seemed, but also make note of these reasons very early in the article. With that in mind, I believe the Devils deserve some slack for the way tonight played out.
I'll understand if other fans view it is a dumb reason or just making excuses for our team, but I consider the long gap in the Devils schedule over the past week, combined with back to back games against excellent teams, as major mitigating circumstances that should be considered before getting overly upset. And it goes deeper than that.
The last Devils game before our shootout loss to the Sharks on Friday was six days earlier in Nashville. After getting into the groove of the season and having our first four games come within two or three days of each other, it was surely hard for the players to get back into the swing of things after an odd six day break. To make matters worse, the San Jose Sharks are far from a mediocre team, the game went all the way to a shootout, and we had to drop the puck with the Penguins in Pittsburgh less than 24 hours later.
If you look at the Devils schedule for this entire year, there isn't another period that comes even close to being a six day gap between our games excluding the All Star Break. From here on out, the Devils will have a game at least every three days.
As if our scheduling wasn't working against us enough already, the bold portion of John's quote above shows yet another reason why the Devils were disadvantaged going into this game. Tonight was the Devils 6th game of the season, and second in a row after having a six day break. On the other hand, it was the Penguins 10th game of the season, they've had a game at least every other night so far, and their last game was at home with a day-off before playing us.
As I mentioned before, the Sharks and Penguins are great teams. They've successfully dominated the regular season and had far playoff stretches for years in a row now, and I think any team in the league would struggle putting in a solid performance against them in back to back nights. Also worth mentioning is the hype that's been surrounding how much ice time Ilya Kovalchuk has gotten so far, and the fact that the Sharks are a big, physical team and were very hungry coming into The Rock because of their slow start. All of these circumstances coupled with the manner in which the Devils had lost to the Sharks -- their winning streak ended by a tying goal in the last 35 seconds followed by our first shootout defeat -- just add to the reasoning of why our loss was potentially lopsided for the first time since our home opener.
Finally, the Penguins have deservedly received a lot of credit around the league for the way they've handled injuries. Throughout both this season and last they've suffered ailments to Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin but have been able to triumph in spite of it. All of the media praise over how Dan Bylsma has been able to structure his lines so that the team can still succeed in absence of its' best players just goes to show how deep of a lineup Pittsburgh has.
The Devils are still a team rebounding from last years anomaly. We've also lost our top two centers, albeit maybe they aren't the same caliber, and don't have a locker room full of players that have had time to mesh for nearly as long as the Penguins have. The Penguins have fourteen players on their roster that have been in their organization at the pro level for the past four years. The Devils have only nine, and that number includes both the injured Martin Brodeur and Travis Zajac, as well as recent healthy scratches Rod Pelley and Mark Fraser. I really do think that even though this organization got off to a great start, it is still far behind being a top team because of the lack of chemistry. This definitely shows in the form of struggles during breakouts and awful/blind passing. But as the season goes on and players get more comfortable with each other, I think we will witness great things and the eventual return of Devils playoff hockey that lasts longer than one round.
So call it whining or nonsense, but it is my opinion that the new, young Devils roster understandably lacks chemistry, and polar differences in the way these two teams were scheduled by the league up to this point did little to help the Devils cause. Ultimately this combination put us in a detrimental situation going into the game. We play the Penguins again next on December 31, and at this point I think the additional two plus months of playing time together will make for a much more competitive game regardless of whether Crosby and Malkin are both back in the lineup.
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I reced this. Good Job.
I’m trying real hard not to hit the panic button. It’s only game six I keep telling myself tonight.
They should have won Friday despite the Sharks looking better most of the game. But at this point. Are we going to have the team that played Nashville or the team that Played Tonight? Going forward.
Personally, I’m giving them two weeks.
@ Los Angeles
@Phoenix
@Dallas
Toronto
@Philadelphia
Winnipeg
Those are the next six games for the next two weeks.
Thanks a lot. I think Phoenix and Winnipeg are the easiest ones on that schedule and despite Toronto and Dallas blowing through opponents lately I think we stand a good chance against them if we can get back to playing smart defensively and have efficient passing.
I hate Philly as always because it is their time honored tradition to play dirty. Thankfully Jeff “shoulder to the face of Anssi Salmela that would now get a hefty Shannaban” is now gone, along with Mike “knock Parise down behind the net after the whistle and facewash him on the ground for 5 minutes while no Devil or ref does anything about it” Richards.
Unfortunately Matt Read appears to be fitting in just fine with the perennially dirty play we’ve come to expect from Philly. I’m just grateful that we will at least have 4 games including a big 3 game road trip prior to having to play the Flyers.
Very good article.
You really bring our situation into perspective. The fact is that there are just other factors that contribute to the outcomes of the games that we can’t really control. Yes, we played badly, but aside from that, there were other reasons that had an impact on our play.
Thanks a lot. It’s hard to mention these circumstances without it sounding like a laundry list of excuses, and I know that games on back-to-back nights happen zillions of times during the season, but I really felt there were so many factors working against us going into this game that it not only showed immensely from watching, but also deserved to be broken down and written about.
Yes the Devils scheduling is bad this year but would you like to be our good friends across the river and go to sweden play a couple games, go to a quick stop on the island to play the islanders, and then go to western canada for a four game swing, and not play your first home game until october 27th? I almost feel bad for the Rangers that they had to do all that. I have no idea who makes up these schedules that gives Pittsburgh 12 games in October and the Devils only 8. Granted everyone will play 82 by the end of the season but the difference between all teams in the league in terms of games played at any point in the season should not be so different.
The Devils aren’t in a bad position now but they need to keep grinding out these games and get a couple points out west.
Hey thanks for the reply.
Fair point but before you feel bad for the Rags (which is blasphemy anyways) keep in mind that MSG is undergoing renovations anyway and isn’t going to be ready until the 27th. They would have had a long road trip no matter what.
I also don’t feel sorry for any team that complained about going to Europe to play games to start the year. Buffalo, Anaheim, Los Angeles, and the Rags all went to Europe and each team but the Rags is now doing fine. Kings/Ducks are #s 2 and 3 in their division. And the only reason Buffalo isn’t on top of the Northeast is because Toronto is off to an unforeseeable blazing start.
The amount of team building and chemistry that travel can provide a team greatly outweighs any complaints about early season sluggishness even if true. John Tortorella can whine and complain all he wants because that’s what he’s best at anyways, but the fact is I guarantee nearly every player on every NHL team would love to take part in an amazing event such as opening the season in Sweden, Finland, London, etc. by playing Premiere games.
The amount of team-building a trip to Europe would bring would be even greater for a club like the Devils, which is still filled with youth and new faces.
Rangers arrived in Europe pretty much a whole week ahead of all the other teams to play against these european clubs. Why they would play a ton of those games on the bigger ice, and not against the regular competition and all. Tortorella actually didn’t complain at all, but you could tell he clearly did not want to be there and didn’t want to do the whole european thing. All the other teams you mentioned have all played home games though and the rangers still have yet to do that.
While you may complain about the Devils having a week off in between games it’s much better than what the Rangers had to do. But standings right now practically mean nothing as teams like Toronto can still tank and be in it. That’s why I still fear the Rangers and basically any other underperforming team in the conference like Montreal and Tampa Bay.
Rangers arrived in Europe pretty much a whole week ahead of all the other teams to play against these european clubs.
I didn’t know the Rangers arrived a week ahead of the other teams. Did they do it out of their own choosing — if so why — or did they have a game I didn’t know about that was much earlier than the rest of the Premiere featured teams?
Tortorella actually didn’t complain at all, but you could tell he clearly did not want to be there and didn’t want to do the whole european thing.
Also, the reason I mentioned Tortorella complaining is because I watched him addressing the press from when he was in Europe and after returning back home. During these instances he not only complained about the trip but, also acted as if the Rangers were now somehow permanently damaged by it and did not benefit in any way, shape, or form — typical Tortorella whining/excuses. I guess we’re lucky he even addressed the press at all (see: Saturday night’s NYR 2-0 loss to Edmonton).
I’ll say it again, and obviously it is just my opinion, but I think the Rangers themselves do not regret that trip, especially in the scope of their long term opinion. And I expressly disagree with the notion that there is more harm than benefit inflicted on a team that goes through something like this. The NFL sends teams to Europe every year and you never hear anyone complaining or making excuses about it. And maybe I’ve just been ignorant but I also haven’t heard any NHL team from prior years complain about playing in Europe more than the Rags. They just beat the Canucks in Vancouver the other night in OT. What exactly are they complaining about again?
While you may complain about the Devils having a week off in between games it’s much better than what the Rangers had to do.
I would love for a team like the Devils, that has so many new members and young faces, to embark on a comradery building trip like this. Even if you start off “sluggish” after returning home, I think it would still be worth it. Besides, bigger rinks, and less physicality is always associated with these leagues. Wouldn’t the Rangers come back home with the advantages of having their legs properly underneath them while also remaining fresh from the lack of checking?
All the other teams you mentioned have all played home games though and the rangers still have yet to do that.
I don’t understand why that needed to be brought up again because the Rangers were not going to have a home game until the 27th no matter what. They made the decision to renovate their arena and I’m sure nobody else including them feels like they have been screwed over because of it. Could the Rags not have declined to play abroad? It doesn’t matter to me, they probably would have complained about having to play only away games until the 27th anyway even if they didn’t go to Europe.
That’s why I still fear the Rangers
Let’s see, the Rags got a new highly paid center in the off season, and they’re also still the Rags. I’m not fearing them at all.
by NJallDay on Oct 24, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
go to sweden play a couple games, go to a quick stop on the island to play the islanders, and then go to western canada for a four game swing, and not play your first home game until october 27th?
There is renovation work taking place at MSG…. I believe among said “work” there is some asbestos-related cleanup. Considering the volume of events that takes place in the building, it was determined that said reconstruction would take place over the summer — thus the New York Liberty calling Prudential Center home this past summer, and likely the next two summers as well. You might recall the Rangers didn’t play a “home” pre-season game at the World’s Most Overrated Arena, either (the Devils@NYR pre-season game was in Albany).
By starting the season first in Europe and then on an extended road trip, and not bringing the Rangers back to 34th Street and Eighth Avenue until roughly the time the NBA season is scheduled to begin (barring strikes, lockouts, and all other kinds of labor hijinx), the Powers That Be for MSG buy themselves a couple of extra weeks of work. After all, once sports and other events (the circus, Disney on Ice, et cetera) go into full swing, it’s hard to carve out substantial lengths of time to do the work…. and harder to do so without sacrificing revenue.
The Rangers are not victims of a “random act of scheduling”. While nothing was ever said publicly, I imagine there was a request to the League to write the schedule in that way, even if it was simply not providing any dates before the tail end of October to the schedule-maker where the Garden was available.
You can’t take the approach that oh well you should get a crappy schedule when you want to upgrade your arena. It’s still a crappy deal for the team itself no denying that.
I wasn’t trying to judge positive or negative. I was simply offering the explanation for why the schedule came out for the Rangers the way it did.
Also, what’s the alternative for the Rangers? Play four road games over two-plus weeks instead of seven total games (1 “home”, 6 road) and compress the remaining schedule, leading to more back-to-back situations and the like? That isn’t a particularly desirable situation, either.
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Renovation work on an arena isn’t the team’s domain, it’s the domain of whomever owns the building. Most teams don’t own their own building (MSG is an exception to that rule) and would simply be stuck with the consequences if such work has to be done to the building. Having a lengthy road trip to start the season and not playing your first “true” home game until 21 days after the start of the season isn’t ideal, but it’s probably the best one can do considering the situation.
Think about all the teams that get new arenas and start the season on an extended road trip “just in case” there are construction delays at the tail end that would push finishing touches past the start of a season. The Devils went through the same process back in 2007-2008 when the Prudential Center opened.
The problem I have so far is, we have one real win, and two real losses, that’s the thing that’s bothering me.
And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?
You’re 100% right but I think that is why the San Jose game was such an emotional letdown for both the players and fans.
I haven’t watched the replay of it and still have the play ingrained in my mind — Sharks have an empty-net advantage and Salvador is behind the net with the puck and pressure is coming towards him. When the player gets in his face Salvador just swings at the puck and knocks it little more than a few feet, the battle continues and the Sharks use their size advantage to somehow muscle it to the front of the net where Pavelski is able to take advantage of traffic blinding the vision of Moose and fire home a top shelf shot from one knee.
I don’t think Salvador has been horrific and I know hindsight is 20/20, but for someone who was called a “beast” by Parise because of his offseason workouts, Salvador seemed awfully afraid of physical contact there and ended up easily coughing up the puck and the game in the process. I wish he had fired it down the boards, tried to ice it, or do anything to get it away from our net. Less than a minute left on the clock and that’s the difference between another W.
Good job, NJallDay
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I agree
With everything that everyone has said here. I was definitely starting to panic but this has all put it into perspective.
I’m a huge believer in the adjustments that the orginazation seams to be able to make within the season each season. Lamoriello has stated that they make tweaks every 10 games with ‘big’ adjustments every 20 games.
With that in mind:
A) It’s good to start with a lot Western Conference games to give LL some time before more improtant stretches later in the season.
B) As long as they avoid a total collapse like last year, it will be Thanksgiving before I get to worried and it will be 2012 before I’m in panic mode.
It would have been ok if the Devils would have started Kinkaid that game. If he would have done well that would be great, and if they were to lose it would have been a “eh it was the penguins” situation. I doubt he would have got beat high on the glove 3 times unanswered. But they need to give the kid a shot sometime this season.
"Its the letter D"
by Rory B. Bellows on Oct 24, 2011 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good post. I agree with much of it. 2nd game of back-to-back’s after a long layoff, guys moving positions, that’ll be true tonight as well. Still, it’s not an excuse. The thing is, though, they weren’t “horrible” for most of the game. They were mediocre at best overall. They had plenty of chances, but were sloppy turning the puck over. That’s happened before this season, and well, penalty-wise, you can’t control officiating in Pittsburgh. It wasn’t a good effort, but somehow they need to finish off their chances.
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The refs handed that game to the Pens.
They scored their 1st goal on a PP that had Clarkson in the box, even though he was the one who got high sticked.
Nuff said.
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Don’t forget about the ridiculous instance where Kunitz pulls Parise to the ground, then Parise gets the penalty.
If they were going to call Parise for a dive then that’s one thing because it looked like he went down easy. But a dive would have been dumb too because Kunitz was clearly yanking him by the arm. I’m pretty sure they ended up calling it a trip which looks even more asinine.

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