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The New Jersey Devils Flop in Season Opener to the Philadelphia Flyers in 3-0 Loss

This picture just sums up tonight's Devils game in so many different ways. (Photo by Christopher Pasatieri/Getty Images)

As long time readers of this site will tell you, I'm not big on adages that aren't necessarily supported by the facts.  I prefer to look at the underlying numbers rather simply rely on what I've seen and remember.   That said, I believe the chief cause in the New Jersey Devils' 3-0 loss to the Philadelphia Flyers can be boiled down to the fact that the Flyers have played a hockey game earlier this week and the Devils haven't.  From the first period onward, the Flyers were sharper in their puck movement, they were swift off the puck, and they didn't panic when the other team provided pressure.   On the other hand, the Devils missed a good number of their passes, the lines kept rotating to find something that would click, turnovers were rife, and there was a lot of scrambling in their own end.

A lot of Devils did not have good games tonight, and I'm not confident in saying that any of them had a definitively good game tonight.   The best Devil on the ice was Martin Brodeur, and even he had a questionable moment; he probably should have had that second goal against him.  Yet, if it wasn't for Brodeur's work in net, the Flyers would have slaughtered the Devils tonight as opposed to just decisively smacking them down.   I'll reserve commentary on a few other players after the jump.

No Devil fan should happy with what they saw tonight.  The Devils played like garbage, which in of itself isn't pleasing.   The Devils got shut out, which in of itself is also not pleasing.  What makes it feel worse is that A) it happened on opening night and B) it was against the Flyers, the Second Rate Rivals.  On top of all that, fans are rightfully expecting a better season.  This was a bad first impression in that respect.  That all said, let's not get carried away.  This game will not decide the season; it is only one game out of eighty-two.  Bad games happen and there's way too much of the season to go to conclude that Peter DeBoer isn't the guy or the Devils are out of control or whatever.  There's a lot the Devils will need to address before Monday's game against Carolina.  Let's focus on that rather than lament our fate prematurely.

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The Stats:  The NHL.com Game Summary | The NHL.com Event Summary | The NHL.com Play by Play | Time On Ice Shift Charts (I haven't seen Corsi up yet from ToI, but I that may be a blessing in disguise for this game)

The Highlights: Well, these aren't really much of "highlights" of the Devils except for Brodeur making saves.

Where Was the Discipline:  I said the Devils' discipline would be a factor tonight.  It certainly was in all of the wrong ways.  The Devils handed the Flyers a whopping eight man advantages as the team took a total of 41 PIM.  The game opened with a dumb high sticking call on Petr Sykora, and the next three were also dumb obstruction-type fouls which included two from Patrik Elias of all people.  From then on, the PIM count got boosted by David Clarkson taking a dumb unsportsmanlike conduct call for trying to start of a fight with someone who wouldn't; then took another in a fight that did happen (and got a game misconduct for it.  Eric Boulton joined the idiot walk to the box with an interference call shortly after that minor was served and got tagged for another 10 minutes as well. Brad Mills ended it with an out-of-control hit on Jakub Voracek that must have been one of the easiest boarding calls in the careers of Ian Walsh and Dave Jackson.

The Flyers enjoyed eight man advantages worth 14:11 of game time.  Technically the Devils' penalty killing units did not surrender a power play goal tonight.  Philly only got 7 shots on net.  That's not bad given the situation. However, just giving an opponent that much time hurts.  The Devils had to primarily defense for the vast majority of 14:11, they could not attack.  By gifting Philly that five of their eight opportunities in the third period, the Devils gave themselves little chance to even get a consolation goal.  One more thing, the Flyers' third goal of the game was scored a mere three seconds after Elias' second minor ended.  Wayne Simmonds got behind Anton Volchenkov and Bryce Salvador and just jammed the rebound from an Andrej Meszaroes' shot into the net. It was set up by their power play, though time made it an even strength goal.  

Either way, no team that wants to win should have to put out their penalty killing units for close to a quarter of the entire game.  Of all things going into Monday's game, I want to see better discipline.  Just by not getting stupid in the third period down 3-0 would be a good first step.

It's Hard to Attack When You're Defending:  While I don't have the Corsi charts from Vic Ferrari's Time on Ice, I don't think I need it to prove that the Flyers enjoyed the better run of play tonight.   Even though they were winning, they continued to pile up shots on the Devils.  They were superior at even strength 20-16 and more so on the power play 7-2.  Even after extending their lead twice, the Flyers still out-shot the Devils 9-3 in the third period, thanks to all of the penalties the home team took.   You can't really attack if you're constantly defending.

Yet, this happened quite a bit in the first period, where the Flyers out-shot the Devils 13-7.  Many of those 13 shots came on sustained attacks by Philly.   The sort where they get a shot on net, the rebound is knocked away, but the Flyers recover and cycle about to set it up.   Martin Brodeur did a lot to bail out a Devils squad that was seemingly chasing the Flyers all around their own end.  Alas, it finally bit the Devils when James van Reimsdyk found Claude Giroux wide open in the slot.   When you sustain offensive possession and get the other team chasing you, that creates holes in coverage.  Giroux got into the most dangerous part of the ice and was untouched because nobody stuck to him.   Brodeur had no chance on the ensuing one-timer.   Goal aside, the Flyers looked to be in control because, well, they really were.  Their passes were on target, and they moved in sync and without rust. The Devils were not only rusty but scrambling.

I Thought About Writing This Recap Without the Letter 'O' To Make a Point But That Would Be Silly:   The second period did tilt New Jersey's way in terms of shots; however most of those shots in that period came off rushes.  Both teams had their fair share; though Philadelphia got them with some "assistance" from the Devils skaters. 

Seriously, while some fans will harp on how the Devils only got 20 shots on net and 3 in the third, I want to focus on puck movement.  A team simply not at attack their opposition consistently if they're making ill-advised passes all over the place.  Ilya Kovalchuk tried to be a playmaker a few too many times tonight, especially when he should just bomb it away. His struggles showed tonight. Nick Palmieri was porous with the puck to say the least. Mattias Tedenby, Jacob Josefson, David Clarkson, and the rest of the "other guys" did little to stand out and little with the puck. While Adam Larsson was mostly on-point with the puck; the defense had some heinous giveaways. Andy Greene badly misfired on a pass to Kovalchuk that led a 3-on-2 and Matt Read's goal.  Mark Fayne was picked apart at the point and made some really soft clearances that Philly nearly picked off.  Even their top line of Zach Parise, Patrik Elias, and Petr Sykora struggled. Sure, they combined for 7 shots on net; but I question how good they really were. I feel bad for C.J, who counted scoring chances for this game.  The Devils had a few, but given how they were playing, they were really lucky to get those few.

Part of this has to fall on the coach, Peter DeBoer.  He mixed up the lines as the night went on to little effect.  I sort of expected that given the youth at forward, namely Tedenby lining up with Mills and Boulton.  Yet, I felt he went to double-shifting Kovalchuk too early in the game.  I also felt he didn't account for some of the match-up problems either.  Peter Laviolette split up Chris Pronger and Kimmo Timonen on separate pairings and that proved to be very effective.   Though given that the whole team struggled to keep up with Philly, maybe he was doomed to fail.

Ilya Bryzgalov fully deserved his shutout, as did the Flyers.  The Devils weren't going to succeed with how they were moving the puck. After discipline, this should be the second area that DeBoer and the team should address.

The "Power" Play:  The Devils' first power play was actually quite good. They had possession, and they set up several shots that mostly missed (side note to those looking at the event summary: the Devils certainly missed more than 5 shots). The Flyers cleared it out and that was that for that PP.   In retrospect, that would be the high point of their power play. 

The Devils managed a mere 2 shots on net on their five power plays.  2 shots out of 8:24 of ice time.  That's really bad.  It's worse when you consider that the Flyers got 2 shorthanded shots on net.  Mark Fayne got torched at the point in two separate instances; and Martin Brodeur bailed him (and the team) out on each one. Why, you may ask, did the Devils do so craptacular on the man advantage tonight?  Same reason as why the offense in general sucked tonight: puck movement.  Dump-ins were easily picked up by the Flyers; passes went astray to either give the Flyers' PK an easy clear or send it out of the zone themselves.  I would say the Devils have to address this too, but I'd like to think that by fixing the general problems with moving the puck, the power play will benefit.

I'm Grasping at Straws for a Positive: Devils went 33-for-55 tonight as a team on faceoffs.  That's a positive, I guess.  Meaningless, but it's better than getting killed there, right?

Result Aside, How Did the Rookie Look: Brad Mills got some PK work, went 9-for-10 on faceoffs, and his biggest moment was running Voracek into the corner.   If it wasn't for the penalty, then I'd say he was mostly OK.   Adam Henrique was more or less a non-factor.  He too got some PK time, but there's not much else to write home about.  Though, I suspect you're wondering about Adam Larsson.

Larsson got a ton of minutes tonight.  He played 21:46 tonight, the second most in terms of total minutes and he even led the team in even strength minutes at 15:14.  I didn't think he was too bad.  He managed three shots on net from the point, and didn't get destroyed too badly.  Though, I do wonder what his Corsi value was for the night.   I'm not sure how to feel about Larsson, an 18-year old defenseman, getting that much ice time in his first NHL game.  I'd prefer that the veterans get some more time instead; but if he's performing, then DeBoer will give him shifts.

The NHL Return of Bryce Salvador: Bryce Salvador didn't play a game since the end of the 2008-09 campaign.  Tonight was his return to the NHL regular season and it was a busy one.  While he only got 11:04 at even strength, he was called upon to work a massive 9:10 on the PK. Yep, he and Larsson were the only defenders who got more than 20 minutes tonight.   He looked pretty bad on the third goal against, as Simmonds got behind both him and Volchenkov.  With the whole game in mind, I felt he was a bit slow - like the rest of the team. Yet, he wasn't badly out of position or poor with the puck to the point where it became noticeable.  When Salvador (and the team) gets their rust off, I think he'll be OK as the season progresses. 

Yeah, the Flyers Deserve Credit:  I don't like giving hated rivals credit, but they played a very good game of hockey. They were in sync up and down their lineup and moved the puck quite well. They skated with a purpose and without nervousness.  They kept their cool when the Devils didn't.  They won the match-up game. The people of Broad Street Hockey should be pleased.  Hopefully, the next Devils-Flyers game will go in a different manner.

Lastly:  This is just one game. A bad game, but it's not going to mean this season will be bad.   Let's wait before we start before we go crazy with comparisons to last season.

That's my general take on tonight's horrible game.  What was yours, beyond that the Devils looked bad and the Flyers looked good?  Who stood out (both good and bad) in your opinion?  What specifically do you think the Devils need to address before Monday's game?  Please leave your answers and other thoughts in the comments. Thanks to everyone who commented in the Gamethread and thank you for reading.

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I don’t think that it’s so much that the Devils were so bad today, rather than the Flyers were just that much better. The Devils didn’t fall on their faces until the third period, although without Marty, they would have. It could have easily been tied going into the third if Sykora doesn’t hid the side of the net. Still, a dissapointing performance. In all honesty though, every line on the Devils is a new line that didn’t play together last year, and our third line is arguably horrific, (and that’s forgetting about the Tedenby, Boulton, Mills combo). I don’t think we can compete all that well against deep teams.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Oct 8, 2011 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

As I sat there in my seats, one of the last to leave (by request of the PRegnant Mrs, as she didn’t want to get jostled too bad on the way out), the only words I could manage to utter, over and over again, were “What the F*&k was that?”

I can’t even verbalize how terrible it was, you did a far better job than I ever could John.

The passing was aweful, turnover after turnover, no pressure sustained of any kind, hell, no pressure at all. Ugh.

81 more games. I would hate to be part of the next practice. If they don’t come out and annihilate Carolina monday, its gonna be a long season.

I’m not going to lie to you. It felt good and I’m going to do whatever is in my power possible to stay there as long as I can. - Petr Sykora on playing on a line with Elias and Parise.

by Murdoc on Oct 8, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Truth is, if they want to escape from an early and not needed stress, they’d better win the next one, because at 0-2-0 when you know the Devils precedent season story, the 3rd game would be already a must win or people will start to panic.

and for heaven’s sake they (players), normally, should know now that you can lose a whole season in the few first weeks too. So they’ll beat the canes, sure.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 8, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Blech

I have been to about 80 Devils games, and this one was just lousy. There was simply no serious offensive threat tonigth. It is only the second time I have seen them shut out.

Nobody deserves a pass tonight. However, was it me or was Josefson particularly invisible?

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by Devilssection21fan on Oct 8, 2011 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Obviously highly disapointing.I thought Marty played great , Larsson good enough,Parise looked rusty,Kovy did not play well, his costly turnovers that happen to frequently were , well, costly. Henrique I thought had a decent game as well as Josefson, although neither did much great they held their own. Clarkson had an awful game. What is hedoing on the power play , and then getting moved up to play with patty and zach is nonsense. That fight with Simmods was a debacle. Ironically his inability to not fall down cost him this fight big time, as he got whooped up on. Mills played well except for the penalty. Elias played a poor game. Sykora looked nervous and tight quite honestly, he did not have a good game. Greene made some poor plays but then usually recovered last minute with some drama as he tends to do. I thought Teddy had a strong game. Boulton was invisable, until he made himself visbale in a negative way. Zubes looked rusty. So did Sal. A-train was a step slow as well, but so was everyone. Tallinder looked not great but not awful, and fayne had a poor game. Anyone I forget ? Lol

by JTdevs on Oct 8, 2011 11:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

But like John said, as disapointing as this was, its only 1 game, against a very good team that had already played their opener and knocked the rust out

by JTdevs on Oct 8, 2011 11:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

up until the fight, clarkson was actually one of the better devils out there tonight. thats not really saying much, but he was really good with his poke check and did play tough along the boards to try and set up some chances. he was also one of the only devils with a lot of energy, thats why he got moved up to the top line. i dont think petr was completely awful tonight, but he was slower than i had hoped and he did fall over a few times that kindof messed up the offensive zone situations. the only thing that really irked me about david’s game is that i sit very close and the ref warned him not to fight and then he did anyways. i dont understand what he thought he was going to accomplish. maybe he gets the team pumped up, but hes still getting 17 minutes of penalties. stupid, stupid decision.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I don’t get the animosity towards Clarkson. I thought that he was one of the better players on the ice tonight. Even the fight wasn’t bad… I mean, he was trying to stir something up. It didn’t quite work, but he stood up for Marty and he at least made an attempt.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

He stood up for Marty? Precisely how does that make a 2+5+10 penalty OK?

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by John Fischer on Oct 9, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because

At that point it didn’t matter.

Bleed Black & Red

by Goblechuk on Oct 9, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having problems with the scoring chance app at timeonice so I probably won’t have time to get something up until later tomorrow. Elias line was really the only one for the Devils that did anything.

by C.J. Richey on Oct 8, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, Anton Stralman got one step closer to make the team tonight. That’s what I think at least.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 8, 2011 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree with this. Like I said in my other post, Fayne looked terrible tonight.

by dasru on Oct 8, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s not that easy if you ask me. Yes Fayne’s made too much mistakes, but overall he should be a better player than Stralman, because the swed’’s really weak defensively.

IMO, they certainly kept Stralman for some reasons, he might help for a the puck movement, a better passing game and overall to improve the offense. The poor performance from the defensive core tonight on these areas certainly helped Stralman’s cause.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stralman couldn’t possibly be worse than fayne was tonight. We’d have been better off if he had simply sat glued to the bench (Fayne, that is).

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

one game …and I think Fayne had a pretty decent preseason,

My point : wait and we’ll talk about that in a few games;.. We’ll see how it works.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

One game is enough though, when a player gets torn apart THAT badly.
Yea, he may have had a decent training camp, but preseason is not at all the same as the regular season (let alone the playoffs).

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re overreacting a bit there, Pretty sure if Fayne makes the same kind of performance next game, DeBoer will take care of him. But you can’t forget all the good things he’s done last year and in preseason just for One.Game.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. Fayne was the worst defenseman tonight. I’d take Fraser first though. Defense needs to better and Stralman may not be the best choice right now

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

We scored 0 goal tonight, Defense was bad but offense was horrendous. Hard to tell .

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to create offense when as soon as you get the puck out, you have to change lines.

But you’re right – it’s hard to tell after one game..one bad game

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Fayne struggled, but I am more apt to blame the forwards, who accounted for many of the turnovers, because they kept putting the D in bad positions.

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by DownGoesAvery on Oct 9, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fayne had an atrocious game. The first goal was a total breakdown on his part. Leaving the slot wide open with Giroux is just inexcusable.

Clarkson had an even worse game. He was pretty much a complete liability whenever he was on the ice. He seriously needs to either be put on the 4th line (while moving Tedenby up), or just get scratch in favor of someone who can actually hold on to the puck for more than a few seconds before turning it over or taking a low quality shot.

I’m not ready to panic yet. It was their first game. The Flyers looked sharp, and the Devils just couldn’t keep up for most of the game. They had a few good stretches in the second period. If they got a bounce of two, the game could have been completely different.

Here’s to hoping that Monday’s game will look a lot better.

by dasru on Oct 8, 2011 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely disagree, Clarkson actually looked like he could do something tonight, he was being stupid with shooting the puck from the blue line on rushes though. At least he created a few turnovers from the Flyers.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Oct 9, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not over. I’m not panicking. I’m not angry, but I’m disappointed. I had high hopes for the night, as there were many positive storylines (Sykora’s return, Parise’s first game as captain, Larsson’s debut, etc.). It was a huge letdown, and it was just downright sloppy.

There’s no excuse for many of those careless turnovers all over the ice, from Fayne to Palmieri to Kovy to Parise – everyone had their struggles. And you know what? I thought the Flyers had some breakdowns that could have resulted in good scoring chances, and the Devils made stupid decisions with the puck.

Let’s “burn the tape” and move on. Oh, and David Clarkson better bring his brain to the next game (well, so could Sykora and Elias too, I guess).

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by DownGoesAvery on Oct 9, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Demote Fayne. John is right in that he was picked apart tonight. He doesn’t belong at the NHL level, with that sort of play. We have a ton of defensemen available, so let’s use them. Demote him to Albany and let him think about how to be an NHL defenseman for a couple of weeks (at least).

Green did have that one pass get by him, but it was kind of a bad pass. Players need to be more cautious when passing backwards.

Kovalchuck needs to quit trying to be a playmaker, period. he needs to think “score goal, score goal, score goal!” and nothing else. Someone should tell him to let his linemates think about making plays. I’m glad to see him being more defensively aware in comparison to his attitude when he first showed up here, but he needs to realize that he’s not a center.

Clarkson had a good game, in my opinion. Yea, getting the penalty wasn’t a positive, but he was trying to start a fight. The game was over at that point anyway, for all intents and purposes. Other than that, he got in there and banged, chipped at the puck in the corners, and skated. I don’t understand the negative attitude that so many fans have towards Clarkson, really.

Larsson’s quarterbacking the power play, and the amount of time he played, was really impressive. This kid looks like the real deal. I know that it’s still early in the season, but him and Marty were the only Devils that I saw who had a good game tonight. I’m impressed.

Now, let’s go beat Carolina!

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree with you ohms, i dont get why people are all over clarkson. as i said before, up until the fight he was really one of th ebetter devils tonight. corsi wont tell the whole story for this one. he was very active with his poke check and he played good behind the net and along the boards. also he was one of the only people with some energy. i just think he needs to stop acting like sean avery and start playing good hockey.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clarkson put the team short-handed 3 times, had no shots on goal, got demolished in that fight and tossed from the game. How is any of that good?

by Bobby V on Oct 9, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

were you at the game? its easier to see everything that goes on, at least for me and i felt he did a decent job of playing d and trying to create chances. the team played poorly overall, its kinda hard to knock him for it when we all know what he brings to the table in terms of skill.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two of those three times (possibly even the third? When was his other penalty, again?) occurred when the game was already basically over, and he was actively TRYING to stur things up. This isn’t a valid criticism at all, in my view.

Someone willing and able to agitate, and stand up for your goaltender (especially), is a good thing, not something to be criticized.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

When your team is down and struggling to get offensive chances, it’s never a good thing to put them down a man.

Clarkson was a black hole. The few times he did something right, like win a fight along the boards for the puck and maintain possession as he circled around the net, he followed it up by passing the puck right to a Flyer.

by elesias on Oct 9, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two of those three times (possibly even the third? When was his other penalty, again?) occurred when the game was already basically over, and he was actively TRYING to stur things up. This isn’t a valid criticism at all, in my view.

Someone willing and able to agitate, and stand up for your goaltender (especially), is a good thing, not something to be criticized.

It totally is something to be criticized. The actions tell me that the player isn’t interested in even trying to make a comeback in a game; they’d rather give it up and try to do some dumb stuff. Which hurts the rest of the team since that’s another 2 or so minutes they have to defend instead of trying for even a consolation goal. Moreover, Clarkson didn’t agitate anyone – he kept getting sent to the box. Combine that with the fact that he kept gifting the Flyers possession, I don’t see why anyone on Philly would be mad at him. He helped them out on a few shifts.

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by John Fischer on Oct 9, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

John, the game was over by the time that Clarkson was doing this stuff that you’re criticizing him for. Yea, it’s always possible for a team to come back, but that’s actually another reason to say that Clarkson had a good game rather than criticize him. During the second half of the third period he seemed to be the only player who took the ice and did anything at all.

Besides, I don’t care what the game situation is, you can’t let opposing players take runs at your goaltender and do nothing about it. If Clarkson hadn’t have at least tried, I’d expect someone from every team we play this season to take a run at whoever is in goal for us.

I’m not a Clarkson fanboy at all, despite how this all may look, it’s just that I think this criticism is uncalled for. If it was the first time then I probably wouldn’t have said anything, but this seems to be a constant refrain from a subset of fans and I honestly don’t understand where it’s coming from. He may not be the best skater, he’ll never score more than 20 – 25 goals (and 25 will be a lot for him), but he plays good hockey. Is there someone who should replace him, or is all of this simply undirected anger finding an easy lightning rod to hit?

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

John, the game was over by the time that Clarkson was doing this stuff that you’re criticizing him for. Yea, it’s always possible for a team to come back, but that’s actually another reason to say that Clarkson had a good game rather than criticize him. During the second half of the third period he seemed to be the only player who took the ice and did anything at all.

Yeah, he did do something. It wasn’t good. It didn’t help the team at all. It hurt them. Ergo, it deserves criticism.

Besides, I don’t care what the game situation is, you can’t let opposing players take runs at your goaltender and do nothing about it. If Clarkson hadn’t have at least tried, I’d expect someone from every team we play this season to take a run at whoever is in goal for us.

I got some bad news for you. Players are always going to “take a run” unless the refs start calling it as goaltender interference. If the response to that is to to drop gloves and take extra minors and misconducts for it, then teams are going to do that constantly to at least take one Devil out of the game.

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by John Fischer on Oct 9, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, that isn’t true. If a player ran the goalie and then got beat up, the same player would not run the goalie again. That’s it.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Oct 9, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that totally isn't true

Tie Domi got beaten up a lot of times, he still played a like a jerk. Bryan Marchment loved to slewfoot players, got beaten up, and still did it anyway. Tyson Nash, Steve Ott, etc. all do stupid things, they love to “toe the line,” they get punched in the face, and they still do what they do.

Fighting a player isn’t a deterrent from players doing stupid things on the ice.

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by John Fischer on Oct 9, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah they might do it later, but beat them up hard enough and it is almost a guarantee they won’t do it in the same game again. You are naming guys who are known goons in the league, Marchment being one for the ages, Simmonds, is not a goon.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Oct 9, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah they might do it later, but beat them up hard enough and it is almost a guarantee they won’t do it in the same game again

So if you fight someone hard enough – whatever that means – it’s almost a guarantee that they won’t do it in the same game. Nevermind that if they did something that somehow deserves a fight (putting that reasoning aside), then they’ve already succeeded and so they don’t need to do it again.

When you put it that way, fighting really isn’t a deterrent. Thanks for agreeing.

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by John Fischer on Oct 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

John, are you against fighting in the NHL?

I ask because this line of conversation seems to be saying that there was no justification for Clarkson to even try to stur things up there. We had been scred on twice in quick succession, and an opposing player took a run at our goaltender. In our own house, no less. If that isn’t an appropriate time to start scrapping, then when is a good time? Is there no place for establishing “this is our turf” and “touch our goalie and you’ll pay” any longer? I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from, here.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

From reading ILWT for the last year, John is against fighting in the league. I am not, but I still agree with John. The time wasn’t right for Clarkson to start a fight. It didn’t come across as Clarkson trying to get things going. It came across as he was throwing in the towel, letting his emotions get the best of him, and being stupid.
 A) The game wasn’t over. Any chance of a comeback may have gone away, but as Lemaire showed last season, that’s no reason to give up. If you want to watch a team that throws in the towel 15 minutes before the end of the game because they’re down a few goals, that’s your business. Personally, I prefer the team I watch to fight to the end, regardless of whether it changes the outcome.
 B) After he got penalized the first time, he should’ve realized it wasn’t doing any good. To come out of the box and try again was foolish at best.
Still, I blame DeBoer. He should’ve called a timeout to settle things down after the third goal. The fact that he allowed the team to unravel without doing anything about it is worrisome.

by SonicJoe on Oct 10, 2011 8:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more with what you said.

The game wasn’t over – remember when the Devils scored 3 in the last 3:04 against Toronto in February 2010? Anything can happen…

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 10, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that in general. In this particular instance though, Clarkson is one of the only players who didn’t look like he thought that the game was over. Remember that the first penalty (the first attempt to start a fight) happened at the 6 minute mark.

Maybe he should have just let it go then, but… hey, may as well finish what you’ve started, for one thing. For another, no one else was doing anything, STILL.
I just can’t blame Clarkson at all. The rest of the team let him down. The thought that the rest of the team had thrown in the towel is what I’m talking about myself.

As for the anti-fighting stance, if John is against fighting in general that’s fair enough. As long as I know that I’ll read his pieces through that prism and it won’t bother me one bit.

by ohms law on Oct 10, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

First Game for Ilya Kovalchuk as a Devil, That was a special moment for sure.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 10, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarkson’s cap hit is the main reason he receives criticism from the fans. He makes 2.6 million dollars a year, plays on the 3rd line, and only scores about 15 goals a season. It is the organizations fault for giving him this type of deal, but Clarkson is the person who will be criticized for it.

It is not too difficult to understand why the fans continue to criticize him, especially when he plays poorly.

High cap hit + under 15 goals a season x 3rd line player = an unhappy fanbase. I call it the Clarkson formula.

Also, Ohms, I do not agree with your analysis that “During the second half of the third period he(Clarkson) seemed to be the only player who took the ice and did anything at all.”

Do you know why he was the only player that seemed to be doing anything at all? Because he took two boneheaded penalties when we were down by 3 goals that put us on the penalty kill for 4 straight minutes and sapped the life out of any hope of a comeback. I do not remember players taking runs at Brodeur. He was hit about twice in the 3rd period, hardly a rare occurrence for a goalie in this league.

Clarkson was ineffective on the powerplay, and did not click with the rest of the unit. To not click with Parise, Elias, Kovalchuk, and Larsson is difficult, but he found a way to make it happen.

I am fine with Clakrson being on the third line and contributing positively. Seeing him on the 1st powerplay unit, and even at times on the 1st line last night is a reason to begin to look pessimistically at the upcoming season.

by DiffuseTheBob on Oct 9, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He skates without a stride, instead doing the push-off glide move, which is infuriating, and looks stupid as hell, puckhandles with his head down, shoots from the blue line on the goalie with an incoming rush, WHY WAS HE ON THE PP.
And he looks like a sweaty cheesy creepster. 2.6 million for THIS?
He’s a freakin goon. Get this dorky waste of an a-hole out of NJ.

by Korisane on Oct 9, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, now we’re getting down to the crux of the matter.

I think that characterization is a bit off, but I don’t have hard numbers to base it on. $2.5 mil isn’t THAT much of a cap hit. It’s… average, as far as I can tell. And, guess what, Clarkson is an average player.

He’s not an all-star player by any means, but he’s certainly not a goon. I’d certainly be happy, as a fan, if the Devils could actually dress an all-star team, but realistically it isn’t going to happen. The Clarkson type of player is absolutely essential to every franchise. He’s a +/- benefit, at the very least (with the exception of last season, but the Devils atrocious play in the first half last year can hardly be pinned on Clarkson).

If this is really the source of the persistent Clarkson bashing, then I’m pretty satisfied in thinking that it’s unjustified (at the level it often seems to reach, at least).

By the way, the game that I watched there were two shifts where Clarkson didn’t play, following Philly’s third goal. Those who played before Clarkson got on the ice with were standing around; no one was skating. Trying to pin this loss on Clarkson, when Fayne turned over the puck on the blueline three times and the Devs couldn’t seem to get a power play working is completely misplaced. Clarkson didn’t kill any rally, the rest of the team failed to rally. He at least got out on the ice and skated, stood up for marty, and TRIED to fire something up. It’s not his fault that everyone else just stood there staring at what was going on with dumb looks on their faces. Nevermind the fact that Clarkson got screwed by the ref for that first call (I’ve seen plenty of refs let the scrumming go without a penalty).

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarkson’s cap hit is going to make him the “new Brian Rolston” in the eyes of a lot of fans — a decent forward whose cap hit significantly outweighs what he provides on the ice. It’s either him or it’s Dainius Zubrus…. and Zubrus probably doesn’t do quite so many things that aggravate Devils’ fans and the readers of this blog. (Disclaimer: I don’t like Zubrus all that much, but I’ll concede he’s a versatile forward who can fill a number of roles more-than-adequately.)

That being said, I can’t see how he’s “a plus-minus benefit” as you claim. He doesn’t save you a lot of goals with his defensive play. He isn’t an offensive beast, and he is inconsistent in driving play in the proper direction. I think it’s more reasonable to argue that he’s benefitted from the Devils having terrific goal differentials for most of the time he’s been around, and nothing more. He doesn’t hinder the team significantly (although his defense leaves something to be desired), and he doesn’t benefit the team significantly in that arena, either.

What David Clarkson happens to be is a complementary player. You don’t build a team around him, or any significant part of the offense around him…. but there’s a place for him. The grind-it-out third-line type player. A guy willing to drop the gloves when it is needed and look out for his teammates. The guy who will stand in front of the goalie on the PP and set a screen.

At the same time, I’d prefer for Clarkie not to take silly penalties that kill any realistic chance of a comeback. Philadelphia has nothing to gain by fighting, so there’s no good reason for Clarkie to be trying to instigate something — that Clarkson took two extra penalties in the process of getting his fight made it a lot harder for the Devils to get a positive out of the game beyond a terrific PK showing.

There’s a time and a place to try and rile things up with a fight or some big hits…. but the Flyers aren’t the kind of team you want to do that against (they’re bigger and scrappier than you), and putting the team in a manpower hole at a time where they were getting rolled isn’t it.

by acasser on Oct 9, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with your characterization of Clarkson as a complementary player. I think that his plus minus is a reflection of that actually, but I’m not willing to argue it out (the possibility that it’s a reflection of the team’s play is a good one, after all).

I just don’t understand the “silly penalties” criticism here, I guess. Everyone else on the team seems to have given up. The whole team was deflated, defeated. I didn’t see any possibility of a “comeback” occurring at all, based on the way that the team was playing after the 4:20 mark of the third (we were in the game, even if just barely, until the third period started at least). Based on all of that, the whole idea that “Clarkson killed any chance of a comeback” just seems silly to me (if not petulant). Sorry, I don’t buy it.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

A silly penalty is a silly penalty, regardless of when it’s taken.

Above you say that he was trying to spark the team, and here you say there was no possibility of a comeback. If it’s the former, he failed: he didn’t spark anything except a penalty kill; plus, there is no evidence that I’m aware of that fighting has any influence on a team’s performance. If it’s the latter, then he allowed his emotions to get the better of him and showed himself to be undisciplined and, as you say, petulant.

by elesias on Oct 10, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clarkson got his clock cleaned in that fight...

…so Wayne Simmonds was laughing at him and not at all deterred.

by Bobby V on Oct 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that was lame.

Horrible game. There legs just weren’t there. Where was this forecheck and speed? I would have rather them try a dump and chase method and forecheck very hard. Nope..get into the zone and either shoot from a bad location or turn the puck over even before an attempt. Ugh…

Really disappointed in Elias tonight. Two penalties? I expect that from guys like Clarkson, Boulton and Mills. C’mon Patty. Sykora looked very bad; Fayne was brutal and Greene needs to step it up. Other than Marty, I couldn’t tell you who the best player was. Maybe Zubrus.

Either way – I had fun tonight until the 3rd period and those 2 bum goals. Hope we were loud becuase my throat is killing me. haha.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

hey matt i tried really hard to get the people in my section to join in the countdown cheer but i failed :( hopefully it catches on.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. It was fun in the beginning of the game. A lot of energy form the crowd but it died as he game went on just like the Devils chance to win.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol it didnt help that in the second there was a stoppage at 3:36. that threw everyone off.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

  I got about 4 people in my immediate vicinty to join in the countdown in the first period. but that was about it. I believe it will grow. Most peoplehad no idea what I was doing or why, once they hear it a few times it will catch on. Still, I thought the crowd was great tonight in general.

by JTdevs on Oct 9, 2011 12:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Their legs***

Oh and Palms had an up and down game. Either he was very good or just out of position. For some reason I think Kovy is going to miss Zajac more than Parise will. Kovy was trying way too hard but he barely had help.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i really dont get why palmieri is on one of the top lines, he really doesnt have enough offensive skill to warrent it.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one played good. Parise was OK, I guess.

Palmieri and Fayne had miserable games.

by Bobby V on Oct 9, 2011 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah id like to see them try tedenby on the right side on one of the top two lines. he looked frustrated at times playing with mills.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see Tedenby up on one of the first two lines as well. That kid has some talent.
Palmieri isn’t bad, but I agree that he should be down on the third line.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see Palms with Parise and Elias and Tedenby with Kovy and Zubrus. I’d rather Palms on the top 6 than Clarkson or Sykora right now.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess thatd be okay too. i think what really hurt them tonight was not playing for a week like john said. nothing gets you ready more than playing in games. hopefully theyll be sharper on monday. deboer said the flyers looked like they were at nhl speed while the devils were at practice speed.

by poopydoodie11 on Oct 9, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t think Broduer was all that sharp either. Not all his mistakes ended up in the net but his rebound control was off. And the second goal went through the right arm and body.

He wasn’t the main problem though. The main problem was lack of any offensive pressure.

by Bobby V on Oct 9, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

They sure did double shift Kovy alot. He was a minus 3, BTW. Now a minus 104 for his career.

by Bobby V on Oct 9, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I will be surprised if Stralman isn’t signed to a contract within the week. Fayne was god awful on the point during the powerplay and gave up a 2 on 0 to Couturier of all people.

This was one of the worst offensive performances I have witnessed from the Devils over the past few years including the first half of last season. They literally developed two dangerous scoring chances the entire game. Parise had a nice deflection near the end of the second period and obtained the puck in the corner which led to an open net chance for Sykora that he shot wide.

The only other chance came when Zubrus was in the slot, and it looked like he shot it straight into the chest of Brzygalov.

Luckily we have 81 games left to improve the offense, because tonight was flat out pathetic.

The defense played well aside from the two and a half breakaways Brodeur stopped, the failure to clear the front of the net on the third goal, and the turnover which led to Giroux’s goal. At least Brodeur played great.

by DiffuseTheBob on Oct 9, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The game was just overall GARBAGE

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by NJoverNY on Oct 9, 2011 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I can tell you why Josefson and Henrique were invisible tonight, it’s because Clarkson never passes the puck. I’m officially on the trade Clarkson bandwagon. The guy is not a smart hockey player.

by C.J. Richey on Oct 9, 2011 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m with you, Clarkson was, in part decent, because he played with a bunch of zombies, but he should’ve had a great game tonight, he was on fire, giving 100%, he tried a lot…. But the guy makes always poor decisions with the puck, annihilating his line’s own scoring chances.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Clarkson just played like Simmonds he would be awesome. Instead he tries to play like Kovy and looks like absolute crap.

by dkball7 on Oct 9, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t agree here – while I missed most of the game, I feel like Clarkson and Simmonds play very similar games. Simmonds may be slightly smarter with the puck, but not by much.

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by Triumph44 on Oct 9, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's actually a system problem

Call me old fashion, but I believe extremely tight suffocating defense frustrates teams, frustrated teams make mistakes, mistakes lead to goals. This “tweaked” Deboer system seems just like the MacLean system.

The other day I watched game one of the 95 cup finals and I loved how the Wings just failed over and over to get past the trap, they got frustrated, and then the Devils made them pay. I miss that kind of hockey. Please Devils stop with all the “offense” and go back to extreme D so you can actually score goals.

by wolfcaster on Oct 9, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I begin to think it’s a players problem, I think we’ve got there a serious lack of offensive depth especially from the forwards, Besides Elias Parise and Kovy, the other forwards are in a way or another struggling to be consistent at the scoreboard.

Jacques Lemaire’s style worked well with that team. A great core of committed hard workers, focused firstly to protected their own end, and later, Kovy Zach or Patty will take care of the rest.

The most concerning to me, we’ve got only one true playmaker in Elias. It’s a reason why Kovy forced to take that role more than he should on his line, even with Zajac because as good as he is, Travis’ just not a playmaker.

In fact besides Elias nobody’s able to take that role yet, but we’ve got only one Patty….Jacob we’re waiting for you.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

for me, I feel like when the Devils are playing well, the first thing I notice is that the other team just can’t get into the offensive zone, they fail over and over. That didn’t happen tonight nor during the preseason, the Flyers just walked right in anytime they wanted.

by wolfcaster on Oct 9, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know… I can’t say I definitely understood the system that was in play tonight, but then again, they played poorly, so they probably differentiated from that. In the Maclean Era, no one knew what system they were playing, it was just up and down swarm hockey, and it was garbage. Well see, its only one game, you can’t expect them to know the system already.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Oct 9, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Went to Tonight's Game as Well

And man was it just absolutely painful. So many players were either completely invisible (I’m looking at you, Parise, Josefson & Tedenby) or looked nervous (Kovalchuk….this is like the beginning of 2010 all over again!). Kovalchuk was pressing way too hard, and on the first goal against he was too lazy and didn’t backcheck. Clarkson had enough penalty minutes to cover an entire period, and in the only fight he was in, he got owned – twice. Brodeur looked good until the third period, and then it was completely over. Sykora was kind enough to get a penalty within the first 30 seconds of the game….in fact, the entire team lacked a great deal of discipline. This is something the new coach will absolutely need to address, because that is definitely NOT Devil’s hockey. The only player who looked semi-good was Larsson. At least he skated really well and showed a little bit of poise. I think Kovalchuk was the goat for being on the ice for all three goals against, and contributing absolutely nothing on the offensive end. But shame on the entire team for laying this egg in front of a good crowd waiting to see SOMETHING happen.

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by Tim G on Oct 9, 2011 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

You guys bashing Fayne must not actually watch the play and only listen to the announcers. He wasn’t that horrible.

He had three plays at the point where the puck got by him. But I could argue only half of one was his fault.

The 1st one. But even then it was partially a poor pass choice that he recieved and a good play by the flyer player. The 2nd it wasn’t his fault at all. Watch the highlight. If anything Elias screwed up. The 3rd one the puck took like two bounces and he/devils actually recover.

Someone mentioned the Giroux goal. It was Fayne’s fault. Not Palmieri’s. But even then a nice keep by Carle at the point prevents Kovy and Palmieri from having a 2-0 and Fayne get out of position. So the whole sequence was half a good play by the Flyers.

He really wasn’t that bad.

by NJDOhio on Oct 9, 2011 2:10 AM EDT reply actions  

You just faulted him for the first goal, and a puck that got him which you stated was “completely his fault.”

He really wasn’t that bad? I’m not positive if we saw the same game.

He needs to keep one of those three pucks in the zone and extend the play. One of his misses directly led to a 2 on 0 where luckily Couturier blasted a slapshot into the pad of Brodeur. That could have easily made the game 2-0, and both goals would have directly been his fault. Offensively, what did he do? Most of his point shots were not on goal, nor were they easily deflect-able.

He was overall, the worst defender on the ice for both teams last night.

by DiffuseTheBob on Oct 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of his misses directly led to a 2 on 0 where luckily Couturier blasted a slapshot into the pad of Brodeur.

1:48 of the Highlights. Watch it….It wasn’t his fault.

"completely his fault."

Where did you get this quote?

I said “It was Fayne’s fault.” then followed with “Not Palmieri’s”
1. Clarifying if your going to fault someone fault Fayne.

I followed with pointing out Carle’s good play.
2. Pointing out it was a combination of a nice play by their guy and a bad play by our guy.

I don’t know how you drew that conclusion I put all the blame on him.

by NJDOhio on Oct 9, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to focus on the special teams. There’s enough material in this game to create a whole training program and stats base for PP/PK’s.

The Devils first PP looked pretty good, with Larsson on the QB. However, looking more closely, the Flyers were able to make quite a tight box and invite us in close. There wasn’t a whole lot of motion. The rest of the Devils PP’s seemed to be exercises in getting clean possession (i.e. lots of dump and chase), problems on the point (leading to breakaways), or even struggling to make the zone.

By comparison, painful as it was to watch the enemy run rings around us, I had a real respect for their PP. Not only did they appear to have much high offensive zone clean possession, but also they made the Devils box really work hard to keep formation. I think that making your opponents move out of shape is key to breaking down a PK. That and getting a good screen in front.

So here’s what I would like to see for stats in the PP / PK space:

A. What % of the penalty did the team have the offensive zone?
B. What % did they have clean uncontested possession in the offensive zone?
C. What % did they have at least 2 D-men moving at least a stick-length whilst still maintaining clean offensive zone possession?
D. What % did they do all the above with a screen in place?

Only count PP/PK > 1 minute. PK stats: 100% – PP stats, i.e. so both teams are trying to get to 100% on all 4 stats.

Why these 4? I think that these stats formulaically drive your best chance of success, and working each one upwards will maximize (PP) or minimize (PK) goals. I think that the Devils are not efficiently gaining the zone. Without this – you are wasting your time. Next, gaining the zone with a dump and chase will waste 15-20 secs, and I reckon is a poor option most of the time. Third … there’s no point setting up a pretty looking PP (e.g. Devils first last night), where the D-men can stay static. There’s a reason why we kept shooting and missing goalie’s left … it’s because we didn’t push their defensive formation off balance first. Finally, I can’t see many goals happening if the goalie has a good sight-line to the puck. Sure you’ll see Kovy snipe some in cleanly, and hopefully Zack will dink around a player or two and score, but playing the odds, I think you need to be working to get a screen in place.

o-o

As for the game, I argued before the game that having teams on first-night nerves against others that had played a game was unfair. The NHL should sort out 15 matchups over the first 2-3 days to give every team the same first-night experience. In fact, they should do the first 30 games, to ensure that game 2 is the opposite (Away or Home) and also against a team with exactly 1 game played. After that – let the season roll as usual.

This said … let’s not kid ourselves that this was just a bit of rust and the Flyers had a big advantage just from their Thursday game. I think that the Devils looked totally un-game ready. Passes, speed, responsibilities, discipline – you name it. We met a Flyers team that looked mid-season sharp already, and would give us a hard game any time in the season. But the way we capitulated was quite horrible to watch.

o-o

I found myself going back to Oct 9th 2010, the day when we were shamed 7-2 by the Caps at their place, and we just lost all discipline and control. Sure the score this time was more merciful, but it had all the same hallmarks as last night.

o-o

For Monday – we better see a whole different attitude. That game is already looking like a must-win if we are not to see player confidence evaporate in a new Macleanian nightmare. I would ask Jacques to work on the tapes with the team and with Pete today, to see what he sees versus what Pete sees. I know we all want Pete to stand on his own at some point, but let’s ease him in rather than the deep-end immersion and drowning of Maclean.

by AlienDev on Oct 9, 2011 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Lines are a mess

I was excited when I first saw the lines. For the first time in years I thought it was a mix that any line could score at any time. As the game began it didn’t take long to see where the cracks existed.

CLARKSON absolutely does not belong on a line with Kovy. Kovy doesnt need a guy to stand in front of the goalie like a bumper on a pinball machine, he needs someone dynamic. I disagree with John’s initial post that Tedenby didnt stand out, and although I havent looked at his TOI, I thought that Tedenby was second only to Parise in energy.
He should be moved up to Kovys line and Clarkson down to the third.

Pluses- I couldnt put this on our D or Goalie. This D could be something once they get going and Larsson was as billed.

by pepe22 on Oct 9, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with the point that Clarkson doesn’t belong on a line with Kovalchuck. Kovy can skate, and he needs to skate in order to create opportunities. He doesn’t need to be on a line with a grinder.

It looks like DeBoer is thinking along the same lines as well. Rich Chere’s article this morning says that he’s practicing on a line with Tedenby and Zubrus (which sounds like a Kovalchuck lite line actually, but that’s a slightly different subject), while Kovy is with Josefson and Palmieri. That line (Kovy-Josefson-Palmieri) should all be able to skate together, at least.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Palmieri really needs to step up to the plate, Josefons’s very young, so he probably will have ups and downs, but he’s got the potential to carry the puck at least, from last night game, he should be back with Kovy. Zubrus centering Kovy seems to be a bad fit, but I wouls try him on RW.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Oct 9, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

We waited for six months for this game and that coupled expectation added to the pain. With Parisie coming back and Larson in the team, Sykora showing some old magic, we thought we were ready for the new season. Last night was a big disappointment. Lack of discipline makes you wonder how much coaching had to do with the loss. Anyway, we are die hard devils believers. Just the first game. Hopefully things are going to get better. GO DEVILS.

by piscataway_devil on Oct 9, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

I’m greatly distressed at how the team came unglued in the third period. I can sympathize with the fans losing their enthusiasm after the second and third goals…. but the team fell apart as well. All those stupid penalties were dealt with at length above, so I won’t dwell upon it further here. What I do wish to see is how Peter DeBoer reacts to all this…. if we see another similar performance in 24 hours from this writing, there will be problems.

Fayne was not very good, I’ll concede that. The idea that we should bury him at Albany (or Kalamazoo) over one game is laughable. The concept that we should deep-six him for Anton Stralman is even more laughable. It screams “overreaction” to a bad loss against a good team. Should we also bury Clarkson because he had a bad game? Should we release Patrick Elias because he had a subpar game? (Alrighty, the over-the-top hyperbole stops here) I didn’t think so.

Beyond the concept that there’s no need to knee-jerk over this, what exactly is Stralman going to bring that we’re lacking? What about the budget this team is working under — is Stralman enough of an upgrade to justify Vanderbeek paying out another half million or so when the franchise is clearly in some degree of financial distress?

Carolina hasn’t exactly been a very good team in the early going. Let’s see how the Devils come out against the ’Canes and judge from there.

by acasser on Oct 9, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone else snag some autographs from Daneyko, Driver, and Dowd before the game?

by 5th Shift on Oct 9, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, what’s up with Daneyko? Isn’t he doing the intermission stuff with MSG any longer? I heard that he was a no show on the air, yesterday.

by ohms law on Oct 9, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he did autographs at the fan fest, then went right to MSG for Hockey Night Live. Didn’t watch it so I can’t confirm if he was on or not.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Oct 9, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was on Hockey Night Live, so I suspect that’s where he’ll be?

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by John Fischer on Oct 10, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind Clarkson and Boulton trying to stir things up late in the game. We were already down 3-0 and were not generating any offense. Fighting there won’t win us the game and I can’t prove it will do anything moving forward, but at the very least it gave the chance for some entertainment in the last 10 mins and it showed they weren’t willing to lay down and die. I just wish someone would have tried to fight sooner in the game when it was still close, it might have woken up the crowd which was silent for most of the game and maybe fired up the team.

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by slackdog_rm on Oct 10, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

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