New Jersey Devils Escape Third Period with 4-2 Win Over Tampa Bay Lightning
The New Jersey Devils road trip has certainly been an interesting one so far. They've come from behind in D.C., weathered a third period storm despite the lack of shots against, and won a shootout to beat the Caps. In Boston, the Devils and Bruins traded blows in the third period; but the B's managed to get a late one to continue their then-winning streak. The next night in Buffalo, the Devils offense showed up in a big way to put 5 up on the Sabres. Yeah, the Devils scored five. The Sabres tried to make it a game with 3 third period goals, but it wasn't to be. All were games that weren't easy for the Devils - not even the Sabres game. Tonight, the Devils visited the Tampa Bay Lightning game that proved to be interesting in their own right.
The first period was tepid. The Devils out-shot the Bolts 10-3, but team Corsi was only +1 for New Jersey. The Lightning had chances to put rubber on Martin Brodeur but found Devils skaters blocking said attempts along with some of them just sailing wide. The second period featured whistles. A lot of whistles. The refs called six minors - two for the Devils, four for the Lightning. Believe it or not, but the Devils' special teams got on the board. Dainius Zubrus scored on a two-on-one just after a Patrik Elias minor ended early in the second period. The Devils power play didn't score on a 91 second 5-on-3; but they did score two 5-on-4 power play goals. Elias finished a perfect give-and-go with David Clarkson for the first one; and Clarkson dove to put back an Adam Henrique-created rebound for the second. Given how dismal the Devils have been on special teams, scoring a power play goal is extraordinary, much less two. The Lightning had the edge at even strength, but the Devils took a 3-0 lead into the second half.
Of course, like the other four games on this road trip, it couldn't be a simple close-out-the-game effort. No. It got further interesting, to put it mildly.
First, the sharp eyes of the ref turned right to the Devils. Ryan Carter laid on top of Ryan Shannon for a holding call and then during that penalty kill, Bryce Salvador threw a puck over the glass. During the 5-on-3 kill, Dainius Zubrus hooked Marc-Andre Bergeron in the hands. Yes, the Devils took three deserved penalties. If it wasn't for Vincent Lecavalier holding Henrik Tallinder during their second 5-on-3, the Bolts really could have gotten back into the game. Thankfully, they didn't.
Second, the Devils started getting lethargic after the kills. They weren't as sharp in the neutral zone and the Lightning were able to get numbers several times rushing into New Jersey's end. The Devils could only respond with dumped and cleared pucks, so the Lightning kept rolling forward at evens. It was then the Devils got caught. The Lightning got on the board when Ryan Shannon wheeled around the D and found Martin St. Louis for an unstoppable one-timer. 90 seconds later, Steve Downie found Shannon breaking in wide with space and Shannon sniped a high shot short-side to make it 3-2. Things looked grim for the Devils. The Lightning were rolling; a comeback was definitely not out of the realm of possibility.
It was enough for Peter DeBoer to call a time out. I don't know what he said, or whether the guys needed a break to collect their thoughts. Whatever it was, it worked. The Devils got more aggressive in their own end. The forwards backchecked harder. The Devils finally got a shot on net in the third - after allowing 10 from the Lighting. They drew a power play which was subsequently wasted.The Devils picked off Lightning passes more often in the neutral zone. With about 2 minutes left, Clarkson intercepts a pass in the neutral zone and just dumps it in. It goes right to Dwayne Roloson's feet and he panicks. He flings it behind him - right where Ryan Carter can take it and throw it into the empty net. The game would be 4-2 and the Devils would ward off the Lightning to win. To quote Doc, "And they had them all the way."
What looked like an impending decisive win thanks to special teams - yes, that's plural, was nearly thrown away within the first 10 mintues of the third period. It was scary. The Devils got their minds right later on to seal the win. Just another up-and-down game on a road trip full of them. I'm not sure if I want to look forward to what will happen in Sunrise on Monday.
As usual, I have a few more thoughts on tonight's game after the jump. For the opposition's point of view, please check out Raw Charge.
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The Highlights: Believe it: the Devils scored two power play goals in the same game tonight. Do you want proof? Both goals are part of this highlight video.
Peter DeBoer Is A Good Coach: In the preview, I was concerned that the Guy Boucher was going to get all the match-ups he wanted. He's a very tactically minded coach and utilizes it well. Peter DeBoer did well to prevent the Devils from getting owned in that department. He managed to get players on and off as needed. Look at the head-to-head ice time charts. While the two most common forwards the Adam Henrique line saw were Martin St. Louis and Steven Stamkos, they didn't always see that unit - Vincent Lecavalier was much lower on the list. Henrik Tallinder and Mark Fayne were able to be out there to take on the toughs. That's good awareness by DeBoer.
Boucher rolled with double-shifting St. Louis (21:15 of even strength ice time!) so the Devils' top six saw plenty of him; but no one unit was dominated over and over. That also explains why Adam Larsson and Andy Greene only saw St. Louis as much as they did, though that pairing was spared from Stamkos and Lecavalier. Of course, neither line won their match-up, but the lowest they hit was -6 Corsi. That's well under the -13 the team pulled together; after all, the Devils were winning for 39 minutes of tonight's game.
His biggest achievement was the timeout. The Devils were out of sorts and the Lightning were exposing them after the penalty kills earlier in the third period. After the timeout, the Devils calmed down and were much, much sharper on defense. How much sharper? According to the play by play log, the Lightning were held to one shot on net after the timeout - a not-dangerous long shot from Bergeron. Good call, coach.
Obstruction: Referees Brian Pochmara and Steve Kozari got a lot out of their whistles this evening. They called 14 minor penalties between both teams. All but two of them were obstruction fouls: hooking, holding, and interference. A few were ticky-tack calls; but both teams were careless with their sticks in defending players. Why, I couldn't tell you. NHL refs have been calling those hits to the gloves since the fall of 2005. I'm sure Lightning fans are frustrated that their favorite team were penalized eight times - especially the three that came during Lightning power plays.
Especially Good Teams: With all of the penalties, special teams for both sides got quite a few minutes. Let's start with the better unit for New Jersey. The Devils' penalty kill has been absolutely fantastic. The Lightning had 6:51 total of power play time, which included two 5-on-3 situations. The Devils not only held the Lightning to only 6 shots against; but also created a few offensive rushes. One of them happened just after their first killed penalty, whereupon Ryan Carter picked off a pass and chipped it up to Dainius Zubrus. Zubrus hustled, toe-dragged to get around a diving Eric Brewer and put it 5-hole on Roloson. Another fantastic night by the Devils PK.
As for the power play, well, I can't say they were bad. They had their highs and lows. The play that led to Elias' goal was off a rush and it was a beautiful give-and-go. It was another shot through the five-hole, but even if Roloson got it, Elias was still all alone for any short rebounds. For Clarkson's goal, the Devils power play finally did something I wanted to see from them: pace. Ilya Kovalchuk got a pass from the point, immediately threw it cross-ice to Henrique, Henrique only held up for a moment before firing it low and Clarkson cleaning up the rebound. Given how horri-bad the Devils power play has been, any night they get 11 shots out of 8 opportunities, allow nothing shorthanded, and two power play goals has to be celebrated.
At the same time, the Devils wasted a few of these eight power play situations, like their last one of the game. They struggled at times just breaking into the zone. Maintaining possession was spotty. Most of all, their power plays would be stemmed to having just one or two shots on net. Even on their 91 second 5-on-3 power play yielded only two shots on net. Granted, the Lightning blocked 4 of those shots (one of which shook up Nate Thompson) so that's not so bad - but my point is that while the Devils found power play success, they weren't consistent with it across all 8 of them. I will say they showed improvement tonight in comparison to past games.
Defense? Defense: The Devils were pretty porous for the first ten minutes of the third period; but they were very good in the final ten minutes. While the Devils were out-attempted by 13; the Lightning only out-shot them by 5 shots during 5-on-5 situations, 17-12. I didn't notice the Lightning trapping too much, but they held up the Devils quite well in terms of shots - only 24 total. Maybe they were and I missed it? Likewise, the Devils defense did keep the Lightning below their season average with only 23 against. Again, after the time out, only one shot was allowed.
Ilya Kovalchuk's Motor: Kovalchuk did show off some of his speed this evening in going through the neutral zone. That's a sign that he's gotten some the rust off from his injury layoff. Another was the fact that DeBoer played him 25:34, with 8:52 on the power play (15:41 at evens). Plus, his secondary assist wasn't a cheap one - it was important on the play that led to Clarkson's goal. However, it wasn't one of his better nights. He only got two shots on net and was blocked on two other times. Only 4 shooting attempts from Kovalchuk isn't enough, especially on a night where he got as much power play time as needed. The same can be said for Parise, but at least his four attempts got on net (and he drew two penalties). I'm sure we'll see better from #17 in future games.
A Silly Penalty: Cam Janssen drew a penalty this evening. He was hooked from behind by Dominic Moore after a dump-in by the Devils. There was no need to touch him, yet Moore felt he was too dangerous to let loose. Heh.
A-Train: Anton Volchenkov had a spirited night. His only real miscue was his penalty. #28 was huge on his 4:40 of shorthanded ice time. Volchenkov also threw 4 pretty big hits and blocked 6 shots. This was one of his better nights as a Devil and I enjoyed what I saw from the defender.
He's Feeling Quite Fine: Dainius Zubrus was excellent on his goal with his hustle, toe-drag, and five-hole-piercing shot. He also had 4 shots on net, went 6-for-8 on draws, and played considerable minutes on both the power play and the penalty kill. Big Z played, well, big for 20:06 and was named the first star of the game by the game's attending media. I think he's feeling good.
What Were Attending Media Watching?: By the by, the same media named Parise the second star of the game over Elias (4 SOG, 1 PPG), Clarkson (1 PPG, 1 PPA, the dump-in that created Carter's goal), or even Ryan Carter (1 G, 1 A, 7-for-11 on draws). Strange.
The Return of Mattias Tedenby: Tedenby was on the fourth line and didn't do too much. DeBoer did give him a few more shifts than Mills and Janssen, though. That said, he only played 6:03 and had a shot on net, the team's first of the game. I wasn't impressed with Nick Palmieri , but I'm doubtful DeBoer will swap the two anytime soon.
Moose in Disguise: I almost feel bad for Roloson. He didn't look good on the first two goals allowed, but it's not like the skaters helped him out too much on those plays. What he was doing with Clarkson's dump-in, I'm not sure. He just panicked and tried to fling it away. In retrospect, he should have just flung it forward. At least he would have known where it was going. That play was Hedberg-esque and thankfully iced the game for New Jersey.
In contrast, Brodeur was solid with the puck. He was similarly solid in net. He had no chance on the St. Louis goal. He may have had a shot at the Shannon shot, but that followed a bit of a breakdown in coverage. He made several tough saves to deny the Bolts an earlier goal. You know, solid.
A Little Love for a Member of the Lightning: While Ryan Shannon got hot and earned his goal and assist, I came away from tonight's game impressed with Martin St. Louis. He was leaned on by Boucher and deservedly so. The guy is 36, he's not large, and he was flying this evening. He had 9 shooting attempts, 5 on net, and rocketed one pretty one-timer into the net. St. Louis led the Bolts skaters in Corsi with +11 and I suspect most of that is from his own doing. The Devils quelled Stamkos and Lecavalier; but not St. Louis. I wonder how any team could given how he played. He's still an elite winger in this league.
Those are my thoughts on tonight's game. Now I want to know yours. What impressed you from the Devils performance tonight? How do you feel about the Devils' special teams? What would you like the Devils to do differently in their next game other than "do not take 3 straight penalties?" Please leave your answers and other thoughts on tonight's game in the comments. Thanks to everyone who read and commented in the Gamethread; thanks to those who followed @InLouWeTrust on Twitter; and thank you for reading this recap.
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It’s nice to see that the Devils of 2011-2012 are killing penalties like the Devils of old. They are currently #1 in the League on the PK.
A note about Ryan Carter’s penalty. He was called for a hold when he landed on top of a Lightning player and didn’t get up quickly enough. It happened because David Clarkson crashed into the said Lightning, and that rammed the Tampa Bay helmet into Carter’s nose, probably breaking it, and causing him to fall on the guy. For that, I don’t hold Carter responsible for the 2 minute infraction.
Peter DeBoer is looking better and better as time goes on. He’s giving his young players ice time under tough circumstances and they are quickly learning how to play the game at this level. He has the defense playing very well, especially when short handed, and maybe, just maybe he has the power play starting to work.
A note: Although the Devils have played one more game than the Rangers they have scored two more goals.
Things are looking up in Devilsland.
A note about Ryan Carter’s penalty. He was called for a hold when he landed on top of a Lightning player and didn’t get up quickly enough. It happened because David Clarkson crashed into the said Lightning, and that rammed the Tampa Bay helmet into Carter’s nose, probably breaking it, and causing him to fall on the guy. For that, I don’t hold Carter responsible for the 2 minute infraction.
That may be. Usually, laying on a guy’s a fairly obvious call; but a fair point nonetheless. I was a bit surprised that Clarkson didn’t get a penalty for just ramming into Shannon, who was initially tied up with Carter, come to think of it.
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by John Fischer on Nov 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Tedenby
One of the few things that concerns me about Devils is the way they are handling Tedenby. Does anyone agree? He has probably been averaging about 10 minutes a game and now he is on a fourth line geting 6 minutes. First of all, he is way too talented to be on a fourth line. Second, while he does not yet have a goal, its hard to blame him with the the number of minutes he has been on the ice. But when he was on the ice he has created a lot of space with his speed an skills, been robbed of goals a couple times, and set up Clarkson for goals or near goals numerous times. But even more to the point, he is one of the Devils ((few) top offensive prospects. He is a guy who needs to be 30 goal scorer in years to come if the Devils are going be competive. I would argue that even this year, if the Devils are going to vastly improve on last years dismal scoring, Tedenby is going to have to play a big part in that. In terms of raw offensive talent, he at the top of the team, right behind the big three of parise, kovy, and elias. The Devils need to find a way to get him more minutes and get him going as they did for a stretch late last year.
He hasn’t shown any reason to get more ice team. For all of his fancy moves he’s been struggling to produce against weak competition.
Many are quick to point to his lack of ice time as a reason he’s struggling, but he hasn’t done anything more with more ice time and one need not look any further than Adam Henrique to see how a player can make a case for themselves to get more TOI with limited opportunities.
Henrique was thrust onto a line with parise and kovy within about a game or two of coming up, getting more minutes in his first couple games (16 min) than Tedenby has gotten all year in any game. About half of David Clarkson’s goals and posts are due to Tedenby creating space. Im sure he isnt playing his best, but he is the teams top offensive prospect, probably deserves more than fourth line play, espesially because he showed he can be a contributor putting up 8 goals down the stretch last season.
Henrique got more minutes and a promotion mainly because he was a Center and the Parise at Center experiment wasn’t working, but also because he demonstrated that it was worth a shot giving them to him… something Tedenby hasn’t done.
If he were a bona fide top 6 forward he should be demolishing the competition he’s been facing, even in his limited ice time, and his defensive game should be further along.
I think a 30 goal scorer is a bit of stretch.
I don’t think he has shown much other then some flashy dekes and right now Palmieri is playing just slightly better. Mostly defensively. So he is getting the minutes you few Tedenby should get.
I think Tedenby will be a player in this league. Just think he is stuck as low man on the depth chart right now. Personally I’d like to get him away from Janssen on his line…..well I’d like to get Janssen off the team.
Tedenby’s 21 and playing in his second NHL season, he’s got ways to go in his development. Right now, Tedenby really hasn’t done too much to justify more minutes than Palmieri – who also hasn’t been impressive.
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by John Fischer on Nov 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
First off, there are younger players with less expeience than Tedenby being asked to produce on the Devils this year. Second, are you comparing the skill level of palmieri and tedenby? Have to disagree with you on that one. Tedenby has created a lot more on the ice than Palmeri, with less minutes. Im not saying he has played his best, but he is the teams top offensive skilled prospect. The main reason he is not getting minutes is because of the overload of left wings and the play of sykora. The devils one injury away from Tedenby being a top six player who needs to produce for the team to win. Id find a way to get him more minutes.
no, they’re not. they’re at least two injuries away from that happening.
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Interestingly enough, the Devils outscored the Rangers in 2008-2009, and tied them in goals for in 2009-2010. Also, last season(yes you read that correctly Last Season) the Devils tied the Rangers in regulation plus overtime wins with 35. In 18 games this season the Devils have been in 5 shootouts, tied for the same amount as last season.
What does this mean?
It means that I would not be surprised in the slightest to see the Devils outscore the Rangers this season, and finish ahead of them in the standings for several reasons:
Kovalchuk and Parise have combined for only 9 goals.
Mattias Tedenby has yet to score a goal.
Travis Zajac has not played a single game this season, and we have witnessed his chemistry with the two players named above.
What seems like the almost perfect recipe(nothing compares to last year) for a slow start has yielded a 10-7-1 record. If you were to tell me at the start of the season that through the first 18 games of the season Kovalchuk and Parise would combine for only 9 goals I would have assumed this team would be significantly under .500.
Instead of toiling below .500, the Devils have given many of the “elite” teams in the East as much as they can handle. They have beaten Philadelphia and Buffalo on the road and played a tough game against Boston. The Flyers and Sabres are currently #1 and #2 in the Eastern Conference, and Boston is the hottest team in the league.
We are already seeing the potential of this team over the past 8 game stretch. It would seem to only be a matter of time before they can string several together in a row. Especially since Kovalchuk and Parise will begin to score, Zajac will return, Larsson should continue to improve, and the Devils will become more effective in DeBoer’s system.
And if none of that happens above, we can take solace in the fact that the Devils will still be a borderline playoff team with a good defensive core, and a damn good goaltender tandem.
A few personal notes :
- I wouldn’t know how Pete could fix that but getting Kovy off the RW and Parise’s line is a top priority, they both were non factors in 5 on 5 situations. Acasser is right, they’re playing a very different game, and both guys are still struggling to get their groove back. So please let them play their own game, then we’ll see. That means both should play LW firstly.
- Zubrus is perhaps our best player, he seems to be in a great shape, and the way he’s getting the puck out of the defensive zone is amazing, he’s so smooth.
- I know Elias has been awesome so far but I don’t like some of his choices during PP’s.
- Nothing particularly wrong with Larsson, and that’s great. He was better in his own end, I loved when dangling behind brodeur’s net, he schooled Martin St Louis. Nice puck handling skills for a 19 years defenseman.
- Volchenkov’s really heating up.
- Thank you John once again, as mentioned in a previous post, we’re very lucky to have you here.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions
I agree Kovy shouldn’t be playing RW. But I wouldn’t break up Sykora – Elias – Zubrus line. So where do you play him?
As long as we shouldn’t break up our best line, sooner or later, especially when Zajac comes back, we’ll have no choice but to put our “franchise players” on 3 different lines.
In first I’d leave Henrique and Parise together because both Adam and Ilya are pretty bad possession players. Then I’d give a shot to a Kovy-Carter-Clarkson line. I know we’re far from perfection there but at least, as a 3rd line they would play against a weaker opposition.
On the other hand that would bring out another problem here : Our 4th line. Kovy as a 3rd liner should get pretty frequent double-shifts to give him the ice time he “deserves”, but not with Mills and Janssen, I certainly not try to bash this type of players, honestly I’ve been impressed by Janssen so far, he’s way better than I thought, but how they could keep it up with a guy like Kovy ? that would a waste energy in my opinion. Once again we’re handcuffed by this line.
Quite complicated isn’t it ?
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Well sorry, I forgot someone here, Matias Tedenby. With Kovy, Mills and Tedenby on the 4th line, that wouldn’t be that awful.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I know. Still, the question is, should we keep Kovy on the right wing until Travis comes back ?
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Why not keep Kovalchuk on the right wing with Parise and Henrique until Zajac gets back? Kovalchuk just came back from his injury and he is just starting to play right wing with Henrique. When Zajac gets back, we’ll see how Zajac is playing and how our roster looks like at the time. I would love to see Kovalchuk get back to playing on the left wing.
Also, I believe that Zajac is only weeks aways from returning to play, not a long way off. At least, I would like to think so. It has been reported that Zajac has already been skating for several weeks.
by Jose_A_Alvarez on Nov 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
The main reason is about 5 on 5 activity. Same as last year, Kovy looks pretty lost in that position, Parise neither looks better and their line is not dominating in the game. They need some time to gel perhaps, but from what I’ve seen so far, I’m not optimistic.
We’ll see.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Let me just say again that Kovy is just coming back from an injury and he is playing with a new center in Henrique. Coach DeBoer will and should give this line some time to improve. If it does not improve, I would like to see Kovy back on the left wing of Elias, Sykora on the right wing of Elias, and Zubrus on the right wing of Henrique and Parise. This way, we have Kovy playing on his preferred left wing, Sykora on his preferred right wing and with Elias, and our best right wing, Zubrus, playing on the 1st line with Parise and Henrique.
We’ll see…
by Jose_A_Alvarez on Nov 20, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Improved Play by the Devils
Another strong game by Marty Brodeur. Through 18 games, the Devils have won their games when either Brodeur or Hedberg have played well. The Devils need both their goaltenders to play well to continue winning. Other than strong goaltending, the Devils’ excellent PK have carried them so far this season, giving them a chance to win a lot of close games. Now, that their PP is starting to have some success, the team’s overall play has improved.
The Devils’ play is also improved due to other factors of which I will mane a few:
-Adam Henrique moving to the top line and finding some chemistry with Parise, retuning Parise to his natural Left Wing. Also Henrique has playing very well defensively.
-The good and consistent play of the 2nd line with Sykora, Elias and Zubrus.
-The improved and confident play of Clarkson.
-Having Tallinder and Fayne play together again. Since they started playing together, they have been the Devils’ best defensive pair.
PP still weak (despite the goals)
It probably gets masked by the 2 successes tonight, but there’s still something fundamentally wrong with our PP. We are scoring at the moment on solo efforts and the odd real pretty rush, but not from the fundamentals of strong PP.
We do not gain the zone well. Quite often it’s single man rushes into multiple defenders, or dump & chase into a corner (both which burn 15-20 seconds, and usually result in a clear by their PK). Also – we waste so much time outside the zone, aimlessly drifting up the ice, or hanging around for ever behind our goal changing lines.
We do not often get clean possession in the zone – where we can make say 6 passes under full control. Often it’s a case of scrambles and wall battles, or speculative long cross-ice passes that get intercepted.
If and when we get clean possession … we seem to have zero intention to move the D out of shape, to screen the goalie, to create motion leading to chaos leading to shooting lanes. It’s like we have zero urgency anywhere. The long 5 on 3 yesterday was a classic example of this. The Patty effective “delay of game” waiting for the D-man to challenge him was another example.
Finally – we seem to have almost no invention on formation. It’s almost telegraphed, that if the Devils will ever get into a shape, then we will have a central QB, two guys cheating in on opposite half-boards, a guy fairly aimlessly in the mid slot, and a ‘threat’ guy (usually Zach) goalie’s left just behind the goal line to sweep it in. If you were PKing against the Devils, just study this shape and interdict.
OK – these are the problems. What to do about them?
First off – I think the players need permission to get loose. What do I mean? I feel they are so much under pressure from non-performance that they clam up in the PP. Compare this to how we play on the PK, or how we play in the last minute (e.g. of the Boston game) scrambling to get the late equalizer, and compare to our PP. I think we need to play without pressure for a while. Maybe put the kids on (Tedenby – I’m thinking of you!). Tell the players to go out without a plan and be hard, fast and unpredictable. Hell – it has to be better than now. I want the players to play a 2 minute offense, unless whistled dead or behind our goal. No changes when we are attacking, period. (If it’s hard on us, then it’s harder on them a man down.) This keeps players focused and responsible, rather than checking out and drifting to the bench (Clarkie – I’m thinking of you on that SHG against in the previous game). Finally, can we get a bit physical? I want to see some jostling for position, some screens, and some broken PK shapes from Devils pressure.
I’d love to compare this with the actual Oates PP master plan. I just get the feel that this stuff is not complicated unless you want it to be, and then you send players out with such a rigid mindset that you freeze them up. Get loose, focused, aggressive and unpredictable, and this will be a different looking PP within a couple of games.
I was just coming in to post this exact same thing
Those two power play goals mean nothing with respect to whether or not our PP has improved. It hasn’t.
Both goals did not come off of great passing and setting up in the zone. In fact, when they were doing that stuff, they looked just as lost as usual. That 5-on-3 was absolutely painful to watch. The players didn’t move an inch, they just passed it around in a circle like a bunch of beginners until someone finally got tired of it and took a bad shot.
Powerplay = still crap
by Dr. Witticism on Nov 20, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Both goals did not come off of great passing and setting up in the zone.
Watch the replay around 2:10, that was not a PP goal for good ? Powerplay is still crap, but that was a better effort right there. Kovy’s pass was decisive.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i have no idea what they’re watching – that 2nd goal is clearly the kind of goal the devils have wanted to set up and score on their power play.
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Obviously I wsn’t clear enough. What I meant was that it wasn’t a beautiful set up. They made a few good passes but, in the end, it was a dirty goal off a rebound.
Of course, being in front for a rebound is always part of the strategy. However, at the end of the day it wasn’t because our powerplay was particularly good, just a fortuitous bounce to a Devil’s stick. Again, I understand that it’s part of the strategy to have a man in front for a rebound, but I just don’t think that kind of goal demonstrates some sort of improvement on the PP. I guess it’s an improvement in that the shot hit the net in the first play so a rebound could occur?
Anyway, that’s my thinking on it.
by Dr. Witticism on Nov 20, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
that’s how power play goals are often scored. as long as shots are getting to the net, goals can be scored that way.
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what? It was a beautiful set up, it just so happens the actual goal was scored on a rebound.
And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?
That is literally exactly what I just said. The passes were great, but it ultimately came off a fortuitous rebound.
Clearly we have different interpretations with respect to how this reflects on the powerplay, but
by Dr. Witticism on Nov 20, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
However, at the end of the day it wasn’t because our powerplay was particularly good, just a fortuitous bounce to a Devil’s stick.
No, it’s not fortuitous, it’s a probability. When you’re playing 5 against 4 don’t be surprised to get some rebounds at times…. And getting a rebound means a quality shot pretty often too.
After he scored, guess to whom Clarkson is immediately pointing at ? Kovy. That means a lot about the quality of the set-up.
By the way, I respect your opinion, we’re just sharing them
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I know you respect my opinion, as I do yours. That’s why I always respond to you.
Anyway, fortuitousness doesn’t preclude playing the odds. Yes, there is a probability that a rebound will come to a player in front. However, there is no specific calculable probability based on the shot taken, the man in front, etc. here. It was possible that the rebound would come to a Devils stick, but it’s not like it was a pass. The puck was actually required to take a fortuitous bounce to come to the player’s stick, as the player wasn’t the exact target, but rather the goalie.
I hope that makes sense…
by Dr. Witticism on Nov 20, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
it doesn’t. rebounds happen, it’s part of why you want your power play to get lots of shots. that PARTICULAR rebound is a fortunate bounce, but generating shots and rebounds off those shots is not. given the number of great setups the devils have made where the puck doesn’t go in (especially off that play where parise or sykora or whomever in the center of the box redirects a pass), i’ll take it.
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Well, I’d say these are very high expectations about our PP. Just understand that, PP or not, when you get a rebound off an NHL goalie, that means you’re doing your job right.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Nov 20, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think the problem is just the opposite: the team is TOO loose. After PP 1, where you might see a glimmer of structure, PP 2 looks like loosely organized guesswork. You are correct in that zone entry for both units is pretty bad and in my opinion that sets the tone for the whole powerplay. Instead of always trying to set up Kovy for the bomb from the left, why not set up Elias or Sykora for the bomb from the right, or Fayne from the top of a slowly-collapsing umbrella?
by rtrstevec on Nov 20, 2011 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

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