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12/12/2011 New Jersey Devils Prospect Update: Comparing Adam Larsson and Victor Hedman's First NHL Seasons

It's prospect update time! After the jump we'll look at the first NHL seasons of Adam Larsson and Victor Hedman, and of course get all the updated stats for Devils prospects. Click the link for more.

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Larsson vs. Hedman:

Before the 2011 draft one of the players Adam Larsson was constantly compared with was Victor Hedman. Player comparisons are always challenging and I try not to make them if I can. Hedman and Larsson however shared a very similar development path. Both played big minutes in the Swedish Elite League as 17 and 18 year olds (you can view the SEL time-on-ice comparison I wrote on them back in the spring here), were top 5 picks in the NHL draft and were thrown right to the wolves and started in the NHL immediately even though both could have played at the AHL level. Oh yeah, and they are both Swedish.

Taking a look at Larsson's season to date, Hedman's first NHL season and Larsson's 82 game projected statistics I tried to see if there were any glaring similarities and differences in their first seasons. To do this I utilized statistics from www.behindthenet.ca and www.NHL.com

First a disclaimer. Some of the NHL's 'Real-Time Stats' (Hits, Blocks, Takeaway, Giveaway) are bound to be subject to some scorekeeper bias, even moreso than other stats like assists and shot totals (like how the Rangers pump up Henrik Lundqvist's stats by claiming a shot that hits the glass was a shot on goal). Also if you have never seen the extremes of scorer bias, I suggest you read this article from Deadspin.com in 2009.

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A few things jumped out at me:

1. While Larsson is projected to score about 29 points, he still would not have more even-strength points then Hedman had in his first season. Larsson is on pace for 17 even-strength points, good for a rookie defenseman but his power-play points help inflate his overall stats. That said, if Larsson finds himself on the second power play unit now more than he was earlier in the year, his point totals might suffer a bit.

2. I was very surprised to see Larsson's hits, takeaways and block totals higher than Hedman's (again, remember scorer bias) with Larsson on pace to almost double both the hit and takeaway statistics that Hedman had in his rookie season. Larsson is playing a much more physical game than what I thought he was capable of. Wait, Larsson only has 14 giveaways so far this year? Maybe it's because of the chances they have led to, but I thought Larsson had a few more giveaways than that.

3. Hedman might have played more tough minutes than Larsson. Taking zone starts and even-strength CORSI stats into account Larsson seems to be given more favorable matchups and opportunties in the offensive zone. We can certainly see that Tampa Bay trusted Hedman on the penalty killing unit (or they had no one else to use) more than Larsson, while Larsson has averaged almost 4 minutes per game on the power play unit.

4. Teammates. Behindthenet.ca has the great feature of looking at a player's primary defensive partners/linemates during a given season. At even-strength Larsson is most likely to play with (in order) Andy Greene or Bryce Salvador as a defensive partner and Zach Parise, Ilya Kovalchuk and Danius Zubrus are most likely to be out on the ice with Larsson during a shift. Hedman was primarily defensive partners with either Kurtis Foster or Mattias Ohlund. He also ended up on the ice with the top Tampa Bay offensive players like Vincent Lecavlier, Martin St. Louis and Steven Stamkos.

For better or worse, Larsson is a Devils top defenseman playing in excess of 20 minutes a game at the age of 19. He will have his ups and downs this year, but if he is on the same type of career trajectory as Hedman (who was a top player on the Tampa team that went to the Conference Finals in his second year) the growing pains will eventually be worth it.

News & Notes:

Jon Merrill, still on indefinite suspension from Michigan, is one of the 29 invitees to the United States World Junior Championship team's training camp. He has the support of Michigan in going to the US WJ camp and is said to be in good shape as he is practicing with Michigan, just not playing. Unless he is incredibly rusty or out of shape I would expect him to make the team and have a big impact for the future gold medal winning US team.

Scott Wedgewood is currently one of four goaltenders at Canada's WJC team's training camp. With Mark Visentin entering camp as the likely #1 goalie, Wedgewood's chances to make the Canadian team at 1 out of 3. To make the team he must beat out Edmonton's Tyler Bunz and Phoenix's Louis Domingue.

The wealth of defenseman of the Albany Devils has taken quite a hit lately. With Matthew Corrente and Jay Leach battling injuries and Matt Taormina and Alexander Urbom recalled by the NHL club, the short-handed Albany team lost both games over the weekend. With some more time to prepare before their next contest I would hope players like Joe Sova, Dan Kelly and Eric Gelinas can step up and stablize the blue line.

That's it for this week, please leave any prospect related questions or comments below. Thanks for reading and sound off below!

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I wish Michigan would just lay off Merill already.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Dec 12, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

I agree, but not knowing why he was suspended, it is difficult to determine whether this is fair or not.

So I assume that Brandon Burlon has been playing now?

by NJGuy on Dec 12, 2011 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Yup. 13 games. He had played primarily due to the injuries of Corrente/Leach. Now it looks like he could have a spot in the lineup even after they return.

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by Tom Stivali on Dec 12, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

No! We cannot continue to sit by and watch as Jay Leach is continually passed over! We mustn’t stand for it!

As someone once said: “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Can we really afford to sit by and allow this atrocity to continue unabated?

(oh, also: how do you change the font so people know something is sarcasm? I mean, people will know this post is, but I can’t seem to figure that out. Anyone want to tell me?)

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 12, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

put “@” before and ever whatever you post, without spaces

by OnessMaximus on Dec 12, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

before and after,…not ever

mixed conversations lol

by OnessMaximus on Dec 12, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome, thanks.

I, uh, totally knew that, I swear. I was just...eh...um...testing you guys.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 12, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Larsson's giveaways

I think he only has 14 (ugh, I can’t believe I have to say, “only”) because his free handouts have increased dramatically in recent weeks. I don’t know what happened to Larsson, but he looked far better in the first half of the current season than the second. Honestly, he looks like a different player.

Has anyone been able to surmise what’s behind the drop in his play? Does anyone even have any theories? Because it’s troubling to me.

However, his point production has also increased. But defensively, he still looks significantly worse than he did before. At least that’s how it looks to me.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 12, 2011 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

I mean, my theory is pretty straightforward – playing in the NHL is really difficult. He’s been asked to play some major minutes. Either mentally or physically he’s fatigued.

I don’t mind his giveaways, as those are natural; he’s been pretty much doing that from the start, and a defenseman who is going to be great at making the first pass will make poor plays that other d men will not attempt to. I do mind the poor angles he’s been taking and how badly he’s been playing against the rush, though.

DeBoer taking him off the power play is the right move, now they just need to cut his ES time.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 12, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He has definitely also been getting torched more often. He looks slower and too often out of position. This is very surprising because two of the things that impressed me most about Larsson in his first few games were his skating and positioning. I can’t remember seeing an 18 year old defenseman with the same level of hockey instincts and proper positioning when the other team is coming up the ice. Now, he looks much, much more like what you’d expect an 18 year old defenseman to look (though still not nearly that bad, because the vast majority don’t even end up playing in the NHL at that age and, considering this fact, one should assume that if most defenseman did they would look a lot worse than Larsson does at this point).

So yeah, I imaine fatigue is one factor. But the guy has been playing professional hockey for several seasons now, and we’re only 28 games in. I know it’s more physical in the NHL, but in my opinion it’s not to the point that it should hinder a player’s ability — rookie or not — to this extent this early in the season. At least not a player that has been playing professional hockey for this long and logging comparable number of minutes in those previous seasons.

So I agree that fatigue must be part of it, but I also think there must be some other things going on. Anyone else want to give offer suggestions?

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 12, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as the poor angles go…he’s still adjusting to the speed of the NHL game and he’s getting caught off guard by some of the fastest in the league who are now going at full midseason speed rather than preseason speed – as he learns the tendencies of the forwards he faces, he should make wiser choices about the angle he wants to take. He does NOT have good straight-line speed up and down the rink, but his lateral movement and footwork make up for it, and as he gets even stronger and learns to take the right angle I’m confident he will be able to smear out small, speedy forwards. I’m not too concerned about that.

I think there is some component of mental fatigue with some of the giveaways…

I think he’s felt some pressure to provide some offense from the back end, and has perhaps focused more on the offensive side of the game. While he might have been a bit unlucky to not have notched a point in what, the first 10 games or so, he’s actually been scoring at an impressive clip since then. But I, too, think this time off the PP unit will help him refocus on his defensive play.

by dr(d)evil on Dec 12, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Larsson was playing on a Swedish schedule, not a pro schedule. Things to consider about Sweden: The travel is much easier. The schedule is much more diffuse – they play 54 games, not 82. Larsson only played 37 because he was injured and because he played in the WJCs. But also he got less ice time, although now that the SEL website is incomprehensible, I can’t find it, but basically he played 3rd pairing minutes last year.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 12, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Spot on. I am hoping the angles and poor positioning are more of a result of his instincts playing to the larger rink. Cutting his PP time is helpful to get him back to basics. This offensive role the Devils have put him in, isn’t what he is used to…not yet anyway.

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by Tom Stivali on Dec 12, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

But weren’t we all impressed with how good his angles, positioning, and instincts were at the beginning of the season? Because I sure was. So I don’t buy the difference between rinks thing.

I thought he looked like a veteran in terms of positioning and instincts most of the time during the first half of this season, and then all of a sudden BAM, he just fell down to earth. At least that’s how I remember all of this going down…

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 12, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t really thought the angle/positioning were great during the regular season. Pre-season, yes.

Fatigue will definitely come into play at some point though. He is used to 50-60 game seasons in the SEL.

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by Tom Stivali on Dec 12, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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