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Devils Drop Third Straight, Lose 4-2 to Wild

After Wednesday's loss against the Avalanche, a lot of us were frustrated with the Devils lack of response. Tonight, the Wild got off to a similar start against the Devils, forcing Marty out of the net and forcing Johan Hedberg to take over in the 1st period. The Devils were able to respond immediately and completely dominated the Wild in terms of possession but they just couldn't get the tying goal. Really, it was basically an "A for effort" kind of game. More complaining thoughts after the game.

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The Positives

The two things i've seen people complain about (myself included), the Zach Parise-Adam Henrique-Ilya Kovalchuk line and the Henrik Tallinder-Mark Fayne pairing were all excellent- especially in terms of Corsi. Fayne and Tallinder shut down the Wild's top unit (Larsson and Greene were on when Heatley scored) quite easily, while Tallinder lead the team in corsi with a +13. The 9-14-17 line absolutely dominated the Wild, going +13, +14 and +13 in Corsi respectively, and contributing for both Devils goals. The Wild's top unit of Dany Heatley, Mikko Koivu and Devin Setoguchi were -16, -14 and -13 respectively. The Devils did a good job limiting the Wild's chances simply because they always had the puck.

The Negatives

While the Devils did completely dominate the game in terms of Possession, the Wild were somehow able to pick their spots. All their goals came off of bad plays by the Devils, as well as some bounces- such as Ilya Kovalchuk skating right into Zach Parise. Probably the best way to describe how the Wild played comes courtesy of Cam Charron in this tweet. The Devils were throwing jabs at the Wild left and right, yet the Wild would never get knocked out.

Also, can the team stop giving the other team breakaways? I know the team's been in a lot of shootouts this season, but just because you've been in shootouts doesn't mean it's commonplace for opposing skaters to be able to go in on goal unchallenged. Thanks guys.

Third Line Inconsistency

If there was one thing that kind of disappointed me was how the third line played. Earlier in the game, they looked solid and they were able to push the Wild around. Mattias Tedenby even had a glorious chance that beat Josh Harding but went wide. My beef with them? Unnecessary penalties. David Clarkson took a dumb goalie interference penalty as well as a boarding penalty at the end of the game, while Tedenby boarded Mike Lundin with around 4 minutes left in the 3rd. All those penalties were easily avoidable, yet they happened.

Mr Consistency's Losing His Edge?

Over the first 20 games of the season, Patrik Elias has been very consistent in terms of his offense- with 20 points and only 3 games where he was held pointless. In the last four games, Elias hasn't recorded a point. He can still drive play, but his lack of offense is hurting the team quite a bit during this stretch. If he can help get some pucks in the back of the net with his playmaking skills or goalscoring ability, it would definitely help the team a lot.

Adam Oates

Fire him.

Other Thoughts

Really, I just want to see the team try and cut down on their mistakes. Better communication would probably be the first step- if the players are communicating, maybe there wouldn't be so many turnovers, odd-man rushes or breakaways because someone's pinching and there's no one back to stop the guy on the breakaway. DeBoer's gotta get these guys talking to each other, because if this team wants to win they've gotta stop making stupid mistakes.

What do you think of tonight's game? Leave your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for reading.

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Kovy is the best player on the ice every night……for the other team.

Only 15 more years of horrible turnovers and breakaway goals for the opposition.

I look forward to booing his Merry Christmas message.

na-na-na-na HEY! You SUCK!!

by mogilny89 on Dec 3, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

he does give the puck up a lot but the one he fell down like give him a break: the last 3 games he is the only guy getting goals…… this is what u get when u have some one trying to learn something he has never done in his long hockey life IN Atlanta…. he plays the pk now in some ways……. he is only going to get better when zajac comes back

by Mike Ruff on Dec 3, 2011 5:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I was really frustrated last night. I vented here.

I don’t think I’d boo a Christmas message. You have to admit that it was bad timing when that Thanksgiving message came up though. What was it, 2 minutes after the Grabner goal?

Somehow a loss at a viewing party feels even worse. I can’t explain why.

Kovy is an exciting player. Without a doubt the most exciting player I’ve ever got to watch this closely.

I have no issue with him being a 30 goal, 60 point guy if he’s going to be defensively responsible. If he’s going to be the root cause of several breakaways a game, I expect 50 goals, 90 points. Its that simple.

You can’t have it both ways. I’ve heard people blame the turnovers on the fact that he’s trying too hard, and blame his lack of scoring on the fact the we are stifling him. That makes no sense. If you’re not gonna create goals, stop trying so hard. Wait for opportunities. If that 4 on 4 was allowed to develop (and its just as much Greene and PDB to blame) maybe we tie that game up. Instead the 4 on 4 was over before it started, and the game right with it.

When Chico said the game isn’t over, down 2, with 50 seconds left, I almost lost my dinner. (Miami Mikes food? No Comment.)

Anyway, in my opinion, this team needs to be built like it is Kovy’s team. It can’t be half done, the roster needs to be tailored to his strengths.

na-na-na-na HEY! You SUCK!!

by mogilny89 on Dec 3, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We need TZ back!

na-na-na-na HEY! You SUCK!!

by mogilny89 on Dec 3, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

At least Albany won.

na-na-na-na HEY! You SUCK!!

by mogilny89 on Dec 3, 2011 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

The powerplay was actually good today, just saying.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Dec 3, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Reckless stupid and unlucky : Kovy hits rock bottom.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Dec 3, 2011 2:20 AM EST reply actions  

About my comment last night and ripping the "A" off of Kovy

First off, my bad, I was upset at the loss, and only caught the last 15 mins of the game. Hence why I was disappointed in his play. The biggest thing that bothers me is his lack of effort after he turns the puck over. He doesn’t skate back, he stopped and watched on the four-on-four. I am just not used to all these losses, they’re starting to go to my head.

Anyways thanks for responding to my message and sorry if I made some people upset.

Josh

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by joshd12 on Dec 3, 2011 7:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Lack of effort after he turns the puck over?

On the breakaway that Hedberg stopped, Kovy totally rushed back to backcheck and actually had alot to do with keeping it from the back of the net.

I am a big fan of the guy, but I am objective enough to agree that he really needs to cut down on the turnovers. But he helped create alot of the good scoring chances last night.

The team needs more offensive support from the defense.

The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall. - Vince Lombardi

by Devilssection21fan on Dec 3, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Why Do We Seem To Play Better With Moose Than Marty??

All year, we’ve consistently played better with Moose in goal. I have a theory. Moose and Marty play totally different styles. Marty like to play the puck and keep things moving while Moose likes to freeze the puck and force the face off. I think this team, especially our defense with their blinding speed, is much better suited for the slow down game. We’re getting beat to a lot of pucks and or making sloppy plays on pucks that Marty keeps in play which I think is contributing to a lot of the opportunities being generated against us,

Tough for Marty to change his style at this point, but I hate seeing him get hung out to dry every few minutes. Am I totally off base here?

by HouseRich on Dec 3, 2011 1:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

No, I think you are right. For some reason, defense looks less swiss cheese -like when Hedberg is in goal. But it is more due to bad positioning and reacting on the part of the Devils defense.

by popp on Dec 3, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe the face off allows us to get into better position.

by HouseRich on Dec 3, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s a very interesting question there.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Dec 3, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad someone else brought up the point that we play better when Moose is in

I have had this thought many times myself over the past two years or so.I think there is a long established belief within the organization that the players could lean on Brodeur because he has bailed out the team for so many years now and on so many occasions. Its kind of like playing a pickup game and having a star on your team; you know that in the end he could pick up the slack if you’re not on the top of your game. However, when you don’t have that star on your team, you feel the need to step up your own game in order to compensate. People will constantly belittle the Devils and particularly Brodeur because he was surrounded by all-star defensemen, but in reality, many people have forgotten just how good Brodeur actually was and how many times he singlehandedly won games for the Devils. Times have changed; this isn’t the same Marty. He’s approaching 40 years old rapidly. It’s time this mindset of leaning on the goaltender to win close games needs to end. Because we no longer have that goalie who can carry the team on his shoulders.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

by Tim G on Dec 3, 2011 2:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

This is my wife’s firm belief.

Also, she’s officially fired Marty so I guess we should be looking for a replacement.

by elesias on Dec 3, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

you’ll always be one of my favorite posters on this site elesias, for comments like this. I’m glad your wife and I are on the same wave length.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

by Tim G on Dec 3, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

General thoughts from the game

-Horrendous 8 minute stretch really sunk the Devils. Strangely, I thought they were the better team tonight.

-I’m not going to crow too much about a D that allowed fewer than 20 shots; but I feel the second goal against symbolizes all of the frustrations with them. Even though a full pairing was back there against Brodziak after Parise tripped Kovalchuk, Volchenkov got torched and I’m still not sure what Salvador actually did was an example of defense on the rebound. While they allowed few shots in the rest of the game, a disturbing amount of them came from open guys in the slot. When they make a mistake, it’s massive and costly.

-I loved how the Henrique line played; I agree with the Elias had it’s struggles. I still wouldn’t break anything up until both lines struggle to do anything.

-The Carter line was feast or famine. They would either pin the Wild back or look sluggish in their own end. No middle. Odd.

-Tim Sestito’s energy is anything but; we all knew that anyway. Just sayin’.

-While they won, the Wild are overrated like woah and this game showed why. They’re poor on defense; as evidenced by the Devils topping 30 shots for the first time since mid-November. And they weren’t long shots, no, the Devils fired them from everywhere. Mike Lundin and Nick Schultz were particularly awful; and their Koivu line got wrecked in their own end. Josh Harding literally ensured the Devils wouldn’t complete the comeback and only him because the guys in front of them couldn’t do much in the way of defense. When their goaltending stops being hot, they will fall. Mark it down.

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by John Fischer on Dec 3, 2011 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

This game was the sort of loss you have to lose on the road. If the Devs lost likethis with three quick goals and turnovers at home, the fans would be booing and jeering Kovy and others and Brodeur would be a bit ashamed.

So… I am thankful that did not happen. The NJ Devils fan base, while passionate, is not strong and is too fickle and even mean.

It truly frustrates me when people show that kind boo-bird disrespect for professional athletes – people who are more committed, focused, and self-sacrificing with their time and bodies in their careers compared with almost everyone else in every profession. The level of commitment shown by professional atheltes – especially hockey, which takes massive individual and team work – is simply astounding and the odds are against most of them even rising to the pro level in the first place. Their workload and focus is something like being part of a major rock band: years of practice, sweat, travel, stress, and excitement to create enjoyment for others in order to have them spend disposable income.

Statistically, one is more likely to be in a bad rock band and not be successful, or because life is fleeting, to be a one-hit wonder which doesn’t bear out. In hockey, those are the people you’ve never heard of and now work with their wife’s father at a car dealership in Kenosha.

I could never boo someone who shows so much passion and intensity in the fastest-moving, arguably most dangerous and therefore least forgiving professional sport… where simple, stressful giveaways or bad passes can lose you a game even millions of contract and endorsement dollars.

So, yeah: it’s a good thing this game was on the road. I hate seeing NJ boo-birds boo the team I love. I’m also highly skeptical that booing is a good motivator at this level ofplay.

by Alan Wright on Dec 4, 2011 2:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

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