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Andy Greene Out; What's it mean for the Devils and who'll have to step up?

GLENDALE, AZ - OCTOBER 27:  Andy Greene #6 of the New Jersey Devils looks to pass the puck under pressure from Shane Doan #19 of the Phoenix Coyotes during the NHL game at Jobing.com Arena on October 27, 2011 in Glendale, Arizona.  (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Despite the rollercoaster win against the Senators, the New Jersey Devils did suffer a loss during yesterday's game. Defenseman Andy Greene did not play in the game to undergo x-rays on a lingering foot injury he suffered a handful of games back. It turns out he suffered a broken toe and will be out four weeks. This is the first injury for the Devils defense where a player will be out quite some time. Four weeks puts his return a week into the new year. Looking at the Devils schedule, he could miss around 14 more games. The Devils did make some roster moves to accommodate Greene's injury - they called up Matt Taormina and Alexander Urbom.

The Devils defense overall this season hasn't been what most of us expected it to. It's been inconsistent. At some points, they have shut down teams and made good individual plays yet at the same rate they have left opposing players wide open on the weak side and left goalies Martin Brodeur and Johan Hedberg out to dry with odd-man rushes and breakaways.

Offensively, the defensive unit has combined for 5 goals and 26 assists in 27 games. They seem to have some trouble getting pucks on net when shooting along the blue line. Hitting bodies and missing the net won't get goals or generate chances.

So what did Andy Greene bring to the Devils and the defense so far this season? What will be the biggest loss in terms of Andy Greene's contributions? What will Taormina and/or Urbom bring to the table? Who else on the back unit has to step up to at least keep the Devils defense inconsistently consistent?

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Let's take a look at what the Devils will lose for at least four weeks:

Player GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG
Andy Greene 23 0 9 9 0 4 0 0 0 0 19

Greene has missed four games so far with his foot injury (2 games) and a hamstring injury in the beginning of November. His nine assists and points put him second behind rookie Adam Larsson. I feel his 19 shots are low for a player of his type. In his last two seasons, he's put 91 and 86 shots in 82 and 78 games respectively (or about 1.1 shots per games). His shot total ranks him 5th out of the seven Devils defensemen (Mark Fraser has played in four games with no shots on goal). Bryce Salvador is only 1 shot behind Greene.

What about some 5-on-5 advanced stats courtesy of behind the net? His on-ice Corsi is -2.41 and his relative Corsi is -1.2. When he's on the ice, the puck usually goes in the opposite direction we hope for. Both his on-ice Corsi and his relative Corsi rank him 4th among Devils defensemen. Nothing stands out here. His opponent's relative Corsi (Corsi Rel QualComp) is 0.184 or 4th best on the the blue line. His teammate's relative Corsi (Corsi Rel QualTeam) is 1.024 or 3rd best on the Devils defense. This means he sees middle of the pack competition and mediocre teammates. For his Corsi to be minus, he doesn't seem to carry play that much.

At 5-on-5 however, the Devils score at a great rate of 3.45 goals per 60 minutes. The next closest is Larsson at 2.67. Evidently, goals against per 60 minutes when he's on the ice are 3.10. A positive difference and a much bigger difference when he's off the ice (-1.15 goal differential per 60). It helps that the devils shooting percentage is a defense high 12.74% when Greene is on the ice. The goalies save percentage when Greene is out there is 2nd lowest at 0.886. He's actually the only defender with a PDO (shooting % + save %) over 1000 at 1013.This means he's seen more benefit than blunder.

So will the Devils miss him? Yes, but not as much as I would have wanted to be honest. Greene's been middle of the pack on a defensive team that has again been inconsistent. He hasn't stood out as the offensive defensemen we hoped for when the Devils re-signed for 4 years, $12 million. He also hasn't been that much of a liability either. He hasn't shot the puck at the same rate as previous seasons, but he's managed to get 9 assists and an even plus/minus. He's been seeing a lot of different ice times as well. He's been on the 3rd pairing, and ranks 5th in TOI per game among the defense. His PP TOI is practically nothing (34 seconds per games) and his SH TOI is average at just over 2 minutes.

Thus, the Devils are losing a player that has benefited with percentages, playing 3rd pairing minutes, and gets some time on the penalty kill. Can the Devils replace him? One of the organizational depths is defense, thus Matt Taormina and Alexander Urbom could and can seemingly fit into Greene's spot without a lot of problems. Mark Fraser will be an option. He has done very well on the PK when he's been thrown into games. At 5-on-5, he has not. I don't think he'll see him inmany games, unless both Taormina and Urbom prove to be unready and sloppy in practices.

As far as choosing between Taormina and Urbom - I really don't mind either. Whoever shows to be the best during practice should and will get that last spot. Taormina has more NHL experience (before suffering a season ending injury) and the better stats in Albany this year, so he has the edge.

As far as replacing Greene's minutes, I think this is Mark Fayne's opportunity to show he can play the PK full time. He plays about a minute less than Greene on the kill (58 seconds per game). If Fraser doesn't get into games, I don't think throwing the new guys on the kill would be smart. At least not for a significant amount of time. You may even see Larsson getting some PK time. But I doubt it.

So what do you think about the Devils losing Andy Greene for four weeks? I for one don't think it's that bad and we'll get a chance to see some young guys who have shown some promise last season. What did some of the stats tell you? Who do you think should step up to replace Greene's minutes? Who out of Fraser, Taromina, and Urbom would you want to see?

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I agree that there isn’t much to be concerned about here. The defense has fallen apart like a cheap suit night after night, and that’s not going to get any worse with another young guy in the lineup whether it be Fraser, Tao, or Urbom. There will still be giveaways, SHGA, and plenty of things to be frustrated about.

Without being completely negative – we will, at least, get to see what these guys are made out of for a little bit as you said. That’s something the fans have been wanting for a while now.

If all else fails, we can see if Sestito will play D for a few weeks too. Bring some RAW ENERGY to the blueline.

by SatanicStickholders on Dec 9, 2011 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

You're right

It’s like if our powerplay lost one of its key players. Who cares? I mean, what’s going to happen? The powerplay will get worse? Highly unlikely.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 9, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If Volchenkov is also out for any length of time, there’s a bigger reason to be concerned with the defense corps: it will be incredibly green. You’ll be looking at three rookies (Larsson, Taormina, Urbom) and a near-rookie (Fayne) in your top 6. Past that, Bryce Salvador has been very shaky at times this season.

This defensive unit wasn’t particularly wonderful to begin with (nor has the goaltending really been so this year), but this is an area where the Devils can ill-afford to be inundated with injuries. We’re long on potential in the system, but all potential means is that you haven’t done anything yet (to quote the Parcells).

Keep your seatbelts fastened, everyone…. I think we’re in for a bumpy ride.

by acasser on Dec 9, 2011 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

If Volchenkov is also out […] it will be incredibly green

…and soft.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Dec 9, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree. Our defensive core already kind of sucked, though not completely. But I would actually say that aside (or along with) Tallinder, Fayne has been our most consistently good defenseman. He doesn’t have many off games and he’s obviously the best producer we’ve had in awhile.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 9, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I personally like Greene very much, but I’ve been disapointed with his performance thus far. He brings some ffense to the table – not as much as we were hoping for – but it is still something. Perhaps letting him rest for about a month and a half to get fully heatlthy will help his contributations when he comes back.

Until then, I think it’ll be interesting to see who plays in the case of Tao and Urbom. I personally like Urbom better, but I don’t think he is really an offensive type of defenseman, rather he looks more like a defensive defenseman. I would be ecstatic if Tao could produce like he did last season, and I hope that he could stick as a regular defender. I’m not alll too high on Salvador right now, and if Tao could really play well, perhaps we can see a shake up of sorts temporarily, or even longer.

I would like to bring up something? Does anybody see a possibility that we may be trading some ‘excess’ defenseman that we have. I mean, look at it this way, we have probably one of the best group of defensive prospects in the league. Lou might just pull off a trade that could land us a good player that would make the team better, particullary a forward… a right winger perhaps? Even a proven defenseman like Ryan Suter could be a deal, although he will be a free agent next offseason. We are going to have some cap space opening up, and a signing of Ryan Suter along with Parise would certainly be a big move.

I know at this point people are going to begin telling me that Nashville isn’t going to trade Suter. Well, that isn’t something guaranteed. Nashville historically aren’t big spenders. Yes, they just locked up Rinne longterm, and they have one more year of arrbitration with Shea Weber before he has to either be locked up too, or traded. Now they’re going to be faced with a hard decision of what to do. I recently read another article here on SBNation mentioning that although Suter has said he would like to stick with Nashville, that he might be seeking a big payday.

My point is… if Nashville isn’t going to sign him to an extension, they are likely to trade him for the best deal, which is very likely to be for a package of good prospects. We are mentioned in that article. Does that mean that we are a candidate for him? Perhaps, but not necessarily. Still, I think that there is a good chance that Lou pulls a deal that would net us somebody who will be able to contibute to the team for years to come.

I know that I’m close to being obssessed with us acquiring Ryan Suter, as I like him as a player very much. All that I’m trying to say that it is possible that such a move could happen…

by NJGuy on Dec 9, 2011 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

Given the financial state of the Devils and the depth of Nashville’s blueline prospects, I don’t see a fit here. Suter is more likely to go to someone like the Red Wings.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 9, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Nashville is now showing a willingness to spend some serious cash. They’ve somehow managed to consistently be a pretty good team while spending almost nothing, and now it seems like they’re suddenly getting serious. They have a great fan base, some incredible players that aren’t going to drop off any time soon, and some of the best administration (management, coaching) ever. Literally ever. I really mean that.

Suter will command a ridiculous return. Plus, while we have a glut of defenseman “prospects,” none of them are really proven (unless you want to call Fayne a prospect, and considering that he is the only defenseman of ours producing regularly, I wouldn’t give him up easily). Nobody really has any hard evidence that Merril, Burlon, Gelinas, Urbom, etc. will actually even become NHL defensemen. Right now, the only one that you might be able to say is even close to becoming a consistent NHL defenseman is Urbom, and he still isn’t quite there yet.

So yeah, we may have a lot of “prospects” when it comes to defensemen, but I don’t think we have any that we can point to and say, “you guys should really trade for this kid. He is going to be something great.”

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 9, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Nashville needs forwards with offensive upside. Like Triumph said, they’ve got plenty of good defensemen prospects, in truth forwards or defensemen, they’ve got a great depth of prospects already, far more balanced than ours.

So,If Suter is traded, it will be for a top forward.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Dec 9, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Well yeah, that’s the other reason. They’ve certainly got some good forwards in their system (damn, everything about this team screams cup contender…starting one or two seasons from now and going on for a very long time), but they really need a top producer.

They also need a little bit more depth at forward even after they get that top guy. Consider the fact that two of their top three scorers are defensemen, and those two defensemen are both only two points behind the team leader (center Craig Smith). Granted, those defensemen are Weber and Suter, so they might as well just be playing any position and the fact that they’re defensemen doesn’t really matter. Still, they need someone with more production.

However, we could put the above situation another way: the Devils only have two players who have as many or more points than those Predators. In fact, it looks like both we and the Predators have very similar needs up front.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 9, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well yeah, that’s the other reason. They’ve certainly got some good forwards in their system (damn, everything about this team screams cup contender…starting one or two seasons from now and going on for a very long time), but they really need a top producer.

I really don’t understand what about them screams cup contender. Their forward depth is horrendous. Their D depth, right now, is horrendous – Weber and Suter are great, but the rest of them are awful. Soon Weber and Suter will be paid at market value – Weber’s already being paid that. They’ve got some decent prospects, but until they improve at forward, they’ll be a will-they-or-won’t-they make the playoffs kind of a team.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 9, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve got a good coach and are heavily relying on a tremendous goaltending duo. They’re playing on the razor’s edge quite often.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Dec 9, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Because, if recent events actually do indicate that they are now willing to spend much more money, they’ll be able to fill their holes. Those holes will be filled, in addition to the best defensive pair hockey has seen in many, many years (and even if Suter leaves, Weber will still be there as one of, if not the, best defenseman in the league), and some of the best coaching and management around. If their recent moves do indeed indicate a willingness to spend to make the team a legit contender, they will be. I ave no doubt in my mind.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 10, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Tell me how that worked out for Buffalo.

Nashville showed a willingness to spend, so what do they do? Spend $7 million per year on a goalie, when they have a promising young goalie who might be starter quality himself. It’s much harder to fill holes by spending money than people think.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 10, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

As a fan of the Redskins, I can vouch for this.

However, Florida seems to be bucking the trend. We’ll see how it works out, but right now they’re succeeding.

by elesias on Dec 10, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

His on-ice Corsi is -2.41 and his relative Corsi is -1.2. When he’s on the ice, the puck usually goes in the opposite direction we hope for.

A nitpick, but those numbers don’t at all mean what you’re describing them to mean. An on-ice Corsi of -2.41 means that for every 60 minutes at even strength played, the Devils have faced 2 and a half more Corsi events against than for. That’s very close to breaking even.

I dislike Corsi/60 as a measure because it leads to this sort of confusion, and prefer instead the timeonice notation which gives one a better sense of its meaning, where Greene is at 49.2% Corsi.

Anyway, this account doesn’t address the fact that Greene has been playing hurt for a month. No, Greene isn’t an offensive dynamo, but we knew that already. Hopefully he comes back at 100%.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 9, 2011 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

I can't stand Greene

It’s not that he’s terrible, but rather that he is being paid too much for what he does/is doing. I hated this contract from the start. I knew we overpaid. But having an overpaid guy like Greene is tolerable on some teams, so why isn’t it on this one? Well, because we have too many overpaid players who don’t contribute at the level they should for the amount of money (not to mention years) they’re getting. Hell, you don’t even need to look at the entire team; you can just go to the blueline. Salvador is obviously not worth the money he is getting, Volchenkov only now seems to be starting the process of actually justifying his contract (and it’s not like he does it every night either, so I would still say it’s not a very good contract, though not nearly as unpalatable)…it’s crazy.

It seems like every season this team gets saddled with at least one more overpaid player. When will it stop?

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 9, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Oh and of course I forgot to mention the actual problem at hand:

I don’t think Greene has brought so much to the table that having him injured will be severely detrimental. First, it gives some of our offensive-defenseman prospects a chance to shine, and if that happens with even one, that means we have one more d-man actually capable of putting up points. Finding ourselves with another offensive defenseman also means something else: goodbye Salvador. Either trade him or bury him in the AHL. I know his contract (not to mention his previous injury) makes that tough, but I don’t care. I want what’s best for the team. If one of the kids who comes in shines, there is no way Fayne or Larsson should be the ones sent down to open up a spot.

Well, maybe Larsson. If he continues to play like he has these past few weeks — seriously, does anyone know what the hell happened to him?!? — he might just be Albany-eligible. But that’s a conversation for another time. I’m not saying whether I would or wouldn’t send him to Albany.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 9, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Greene’s contract is fine. He’s capable of playing 20+ minutes, but DeBoer hasn’t used him that way this year. He’s an average D man being paid an average D man’s salary.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 9, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

$3 million/season is the going rate for solid second-pairing defensemen on the open market. I also don’t like the contract, but my complaint is more with the term than with the dollars.

by acasser on Dec 9, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Tao and Greene are incredibly similar players (both 5’11", 185 lbs vs 190 lbs, both from the greater Detroit area). Tao is just 4 years younger (25) and has yet to prove himself as an NHL player.

I really did like the flashes of ability we saw from Tao early last year while the rest of the team was just plain awful. From my subjective viewing, on many nights he was one of the only guys on the team giving it his all. In his 17 games up at the NHL level last year he managed ~.3/points per game, which, given the team’s play as a whole, wasn’t all that bad. I think what really speaks to his performance is the 20:40 TOI/g he was getting as a rookie. The thing is, he really didn’t look that amazing in preseason this year. My read on the situation is that, given a chance to play, Tao has an opportunity to prove himself, and really could be a complete lateral move and almost literally step right into Greene’s skates. What’s more likely, though, is that Tao will be an Andy Green Lite™ with slightly less defensive awareness and slightly lower point production. The worst case scenario is that Tao hasn’t worked out the kinks and performs around his preseason level, which was not that great if I recall correctly.

I didn’t care much for Urbom in what I saw from him in 2010-11. The games he has been up this season, though, I think have been much better. Looking back at his stats for this year, it looks like he got rocked against Boston (only 7:19 TOI), I can’t remember the game, but we lost 1-4 and he went -2 so I’m assuming there was some bad D in there. I like that he is a bigger body than Greene and Tao (6’3" 196lbs) and is more of a defensive player. He’s got more goals than Greene this season (with 1), but that’s his only point in 8 NHL games. I think Urbom is a better option at the moment unless Tao can return to his form from last season. If Tao is clicking and the rest of the team is playing well too, I think he could top his production from last season. If he can show his offensive upside and isn’t a defensive liability in a D corps that is already shaky, I think Tao could even be a step up from Greene. However, I think Urbom might be the safer choice to just shore up the Defense. It’s definitely riskier to use Tao, but if he can produce on offense he might help our weak 2.37 goals per game.

In sum, I think this injury gives some of our fringe youth players a chance to prove themselves. That said, I’m not sure which player fits best right now. Our offensive production hasn’t been great, but our defense has been inconsistent too. Tao could help on offense (maybe) and Urbom could help on defense (maybe).

On a related note I haven’t loved Fraser’s play. Most of the time he looks too slow to me and gets caught out of position. He’s a big body, but there has to be some positive to him being on the ice other than just his size cough cough Jansen cough cough.

by nightfront on Dec 9, 2011 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Realized this is a huge wall of text after typing so here’s the illustrated edition!

Taormina:
He can skate!

He can shoot!

He can celebrate goals. . . Who is this Lagenbrn fellow? Did they spell Sykora wrong?

He enjoys Russian hugs (From Russia With Love or From Russia With Hugs)

Urbom:
He’s mean

Also enjoys hugging. . . with markedly fewer Russians

Did I mention he’s a Swedish Defenseman? No? Well he’s that too! (Still mean)

Fraser:
How could you not love this smile?

Arrrghh

Who cares about his hockey skills? What a friendly guy!

by nightfront on Dec 9, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Call me insane, but I’m very optimistic about Taormina’s potential. I’m sure he will score goals and get a lot of points very quickly. Defense ? not that much.

In short he's our next Rafalski

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Dec 9, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

On a related note I haven’t loved Fraser’s play. Most of the time he looks too slow to me and gets caught out of position. He’s a big body, but there has to be some positive to him being on the ice other than just his size cough cough Jansen cough cough.

Fraser’s a bit difficult to figure out since his playtime has been spotty and limited. He was horrible against Ottawa and I can agree with how he gets out of position sometimes. He likes to be physical, but going for hits has moved him away from where he needs to be at times along with his sometimes questionable decision making. The odd thing is that he played 4 minutes on the PK against Ottawa and was actually good. Maybe that was more of the system, but it suggests that Fraser might possibly not be totally useless. I don’t know, he may need a game or two more where he’s not scratched for weeks in between said games to establish whether he’s good enough to be the #6 guy or not.

It wouldn’t surprise me if DeBoer rotates these three for particular match-ups until one of the three establishes himself as a NHL player. For example, Taormina may be a good choice against Montreal, whereas Fraser can go in if a more physical game is expected.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple points about your comments and one of my own

It helps that the devils shooting percentage is a defense high 12.74% when Greene is on the ice.

At 0 goals on 19 shots, he has done absolutely nothing to contribute to this stat.

Who out of Fraser, Taormina, and Urbom would you want to see?

I think we’ll see Taormina in Grene’s skates and Urbom will have to try to fill A-train’s. Fraser can watch from the stands and then go to Albany when someone else gets healthy.

There’s a 3-word explanation for Greene’s lack of success this year. No Jacques Lemaire.

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by FrankG929 on Dec 9, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions  

Andy Greene Fenwick 08-09 (Sutter): 49.2% Tied: 50.6%

Andy Greene Fenwick 09-10 (Lemaire): 52.0% Tied: 52.6%

Andy Greene Fenwick 10-11 (MacLean): 53.6% Tied: 55.9%

Andy Greene Fenwick 10-11 (Lemaire): 50.5% Tied: 54.5%

Andy Greene Fenwick 11-12 (DeBoer): 48.9% Tied: 50.2%

There’s not much of a difference. Greene has gotten better – he’s playing against tougher competition than he did in 08-09 – but Jacques Lemaire isn’t this brilliant fixer.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 9, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Fenwick, Shmenwick. Give me points.

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Go Jets

by FrankG929 on Dec 9, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Defenseman points are to a large degree luck. And Greene has 9 points on the year in 23 games, extrapolated to 82 games, that’s 32 points, and that’s in far less power play ice time than he got in 09-10.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 9, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

When the team is shooting 12.74% when he is on the ice, he’s benefiting from guys scoring in which he’s feeding the puck to. Will that diminish over the season? Maybe? His PDO last season was 960 (lowest among defensemen over 20 GP). So maybe it won’t.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

To a large degree luck??

Take a look at the top ten, or fifteen, highest scoring defenseman and tell me that it’s luck, even largely if not entirely. Those guys are at the top because they make it happen, not because they got lucky.

When the same games score consistently over and over, it’s not luck. It’s skill, determination, and overall excellency.

by Dr. Witticism on Dec 10, 2011 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Were we talking about the top 10 to 15 guys? No. And there I agree with you, but we’re talking about Andy Greene. He’s not going to create a ton of offense by himself. Many of his assists will be basic plays, the question is whether the puck goes in the net after he passes it.

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by Triumph44 on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re right. He’s not. I said twice that he’s benefitted from this.

Let’s hope Taromina or Urbom can follow suit on that.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

At 0 goals on 19 shots, he has done absolutely nothing to contribute to this stat.

That’s not completely true. Greene had 8 even strength assists this season; so he’s contributed to 8 goals at evens.

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by John Fischer on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

But if you removes his 19 missed shots, the team shoots at 14.49%. Plus, his 4 secondary assists don’t lead directly to shots on goal/goals. But what I meant was, having a 0% shooting percentage doesn’t help it get to 12.74%, except in a downward fashion.

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by FrankG929 on Dec 10, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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