Proof that Sean Avery has a heart: would reach out to gay hockey players
Finding this through this post by Greg Caggiano (which I found through the Copper & Blue), Sean Avery told the press that he would support gay hockey players to come out of the closet.
Like Caggiano, I was surprised to read that Sean Avery actually made a laudable public statement. Off the ice, he's apparently not the same jackass that he is on the ice. Hopefully someone will take him up on his words and Avery can help some people out.
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I guess this proves even the biggest scumbags can actually be decent people. I still hate the guy, but I have a bit more respect for him now.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 7, 2011 8:18 PM EST reply actions
He only can have so much capacity for being a jerk, right? Perhaps he just gets all the dishonorable creep out of his system while he’s on the ice.
by TheAnswerMinus12 on Feb 7, 2011 8:37 PM EST reply actions
So what? I hate him as much as the next non-Rangers fan but let’s not get into the guy’s orientation. This is a good story and good for him to make a stand on an issue that needs to be addressed not just in hockey, but in all professional sports.
That said – Avery is still a bum on the ice.
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by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 7, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
That’s rather inappropriate.
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by John Fischer on Feb 7, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
It was a bad joke, but I didn’t mean anything by it. If society can’t joke then it will never be equal and their will always be an awkwardness to it.
We understand.
In a way, what you said was not a joke even, but a suggestion. You were suggesting or hinting that Avery might be gay. What is more objectionable? A joke that he might be gay, so that might be funny? Or a suggestion that he might be gay, so that might be revealing/ telling/ meaningful relevant?
I don’t know. Both are common enough occurrences. For instance, many parents wonder about that with their kids if the boys, for example, show certain effeminate characteristics or aren’t “doing boy things” etc, like playing tackle football in shards of glass.
Since we cannot simply tear down hundreds of years of social conditioning overnight, in popular culture, “gay”-ness has long been associated with being effeminate, flamboyant, weak, “like a girl,” etc. That stereotype will continue far into the future, I am sure, and that is unfortunate. If my casual observations are true, most gay men are in much better shape – and arguably more fit and muscular – than most other cross-sections of our society. So, those dudes are damn tough.
So, what about gay hockey players? Well, they’ll be like hockey players and they’ll be disciplined, conditioned, tough, or even brutal. And, if they play solid hockey, respect the game and its traditions, and fight hard and fair every night, then they will earn respect on the ice.
And that, I hope, is Avery’s point: if you want to be gay, be gay. So what? Nobody cares except for a few homophobes in the dressing room.
It’s tougher for kids, because they can’t “let their play do the talking for them” to show up any haters. I mean, kids hockey is pretty crappy sometimes and kids are more susceptible to social pressures about their burgeoning sexuality, etc.
So, even if you’re not the next Rocket Richard, I hope gay kids still get out there and maintain their confidence on the ice.
If my casual observations are true, most gay men are in much better shape – and arguably more fit and muscular – than most other cross-sections of our society. So, those dudes are damn tough.
That’s just perpetuating another stereotype.
"gay"-ness has long been associated with being effeminate, flamboyant, weak, "like a girl," etc.
This is a big part of it, and indicative of another cultural bias: that being a girl is bad. Showing any level of a trait deemed “feminine” is worthy of ridicule.
Well this is a respectable move by Avery. I really don’t mind him these days compared to Captain Head-Hunter, so this reinforces my current stance.
Which one? Richards or Cooke?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 8, 2011 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Call me cynical, but I won’t believe it until he does it.
He’s far too image conscious for me to believe his statements are anything but for publicity.
Words are easy to say. It’s a noble offer, though one I doubt he’ll ever be taken up on, and it’s hard not to imagine that he knew that full well when he said it. If he does, kudos to him; but until then, I’ll maintain my belief that he’s a world-class jerkface—both on and off the ice.
Well said.
It’s an empty offer, that probably (as HELLAWAITS suggests) has a more self-interested angle than he cares to admit.
I would be shocked if we see a player come out publically anytime soon. I think an individual might be less concerned about how the locker room reacts and more concerned with how the media coverage would want his opinion on societal topics affecting the gay community.
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I would also be very surprised if an active player in ANY of the “Big 4” sports came out of the closet any time soon — retired/former players are a different case which I won’t get into here. And when it eventually happens, I’d put my chips on it happening in baseball first. Hockey and football are contact sports where it’s easy to slip in a cheap shot from time-to-time, and basketball always seems to be very big on trash talking. It is undoubtedly hard enough to be an athlete at this level without the extra distraction, and I can’t see anyone volunteering to take that upon themselves…. unless it is a cynical ploy by a marginal player to hang on for an extra season or two by riding a perceived wave of outrage if they were to be cut.
As to Sean Avery…. kudos to him for making the offer, but it doesn’t change my opinion of him. Considering the likelihood that he’ll have to back up his talk is rather slim, in my opinion, I view this as a “savvy PR move” with no real drawbacks.
Yeah
I wrote something like this a few times and deleted it every time. Something momma said about not saying anything nice…
Its one thing to say it, but until you are in the position, you have no idea how difficult it really is. Go ahead Sean, let’s see you deal with a grown man, struggling with the shame guilt and stigma that society has placed upon something as simple as his sexual oprientation. You deal with suicidal tears and the possibility of being his only friend, or the last of his family to talk to him. Let me know how that goes and how ready you were to deal with that.

















