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Scott Burnside's making more enemies

If you're wondering why this isn't a fanshot, it's because i've got a bit more to say on this topic.

I was going through some the SBNation blogs today looking for a good read. One of those blogs was Nucks Misconduct, SBNation's Vancouver Canucks blog, where i found a fanshot to this article. (It's a few days old though)

Scott Burnside, who we all hate because of his irrational hatred of the Devils and his love of Sidney Crosby decided to make some comments about the Pacioretty hit in his debate column with Pierre LeBrun. As always, LeBrun delivered his thoughts calm, collectively and rationally. However, Burnside didn't exactly have the same demeanor. Instead, he decided to take some shots at Canada. In his second thought, Burnside decided to take things abit too far. The money quote:

In many ways, it merely reinforces the notion that Canada is a small, backwards little country with an unnatural affection for a game

Excuse me? Backwards?

Obviously, the comments on the fanshot were not very pleasant- he's trashed the Canucks before, and seeing as he took it to another level by trashing their country, they were mad (i'm not linking due to the sheer amount of profanity (myself included) in the comments of that fanshot). Even LeBrun told him to chill out.

As a Canadian, i'm mad. I'd like to know how exactly Canada's a backwards nation. Basing assumptions on one fanbase acting out over something doesn't mean everyone's like them. Not everyone in Canada is a fan of the Habs. Not every Canadian fan's going to go call the police.

While Burnside's statements about Canada don't affect most of you (because you're not Canadian), i'm not at all pleased with his comments. Insulting my team is one thing, insulting my country is another thing. I'm not at all pleased Burnside. And neither are the millions of hockey fans in Canada. So if you want to see Burnside eat a piece of humble pie, it might be happening soon.

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That's some great

Journalistic integrity right there.

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by Semi_Colon on Mar 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep. It’s like he really wants to out-stupid Damien Cox or something.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 13, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He already did that when he dropped the Devils 13 spots in the power rankings after winning 8 straight.

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by DownGoesAvery on Mar 14, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah…

Even then, he still hasn’t gone Damien Cox circa 2010, when he had a period where he’d block anyone who didn’t agree with him (or was friends with PPP or Tyler Dellow). That’s the kind of stupidity i’m expecting from him next.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 14, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Kevin, since your a Canadian and probably cheering Canada on last olympics, how did it feel when parise scored the tying goal? Lol

by KovyisLove on Mar 14, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you’ll find anyone who’ll disagree with you Kevin. I’m not Canadian, but most of my family is and I’ve spent a lot of time there. I’ve never understood the USA vs. Canada rivalry among some (a very limited number) hockey fans. Burnside is an idiot and so are Canadians who think that American hockey fans don’t know anything about the sport just because they aren’t from Canada.

I would have to ask Burnside if he’s ever actually been to Canada. Maybe Canadians love hockey because they founded it and the history of the sport is ingrained in the history of the country. And if ESPN wants a real hockey reporter, well, I’ve got a journalism degree and I’m looking for a job.

by brodeur on Mar 13, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

He was writer for the Toronto Sun – he’s been there. He’s an ignorant buffoon.

…so are Canadians who think that American hockey fans don’t know anything about the sport just because they aren’t from Canada.

Many people actually read him (true story). The common NHL fan who checks espn every day may take his word on what he said. Who out of these people will take this as fact to point? That makes the “Americans don’t know crap about hockey” stigma even further. He’s a hockey writer for the largest sports media company int he US, and his comments are not helping make hockey popular in the US.

It’s not even close to as bad as calling an entire nation (one that has been the backbone for increasing the league’s wealth with the strength of the Canadian dollar) backwards and little (by the way, by area, Canada is bigger). He should apologize (and for the love of all entities quit) – because he insulted people who are passionate about the game and it hurts the entire sport and strengthens the stigmas hockey, the countries, and fans have due to comments like that.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Mar 13, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many people actually read him (true story)

That’s the main issue here. Sure, there are many stereotypes abounding both north and south of the border amongst fans, but those don’t get mainstream press.

Here is a guy with an actual audience, and using it to push his ignorant and asinine prejudices.

If anything, it merely enforces the notion that he’s a small man with an unnatural jealousy for Canada’s love of the game

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by Semi_Colon on Mar 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s written for the Toronto sun, which is considered one of the trashiest newspapers in the country (which answers your second question). The fact that ESPN hired someone who writes for such a terrible publication just shows that they don’t care about the quality of their work.

Re: your first point- it’s kind of stupid. It would be like telling me I know nothing about baseball because Canada only has one team and hasn’t produced as many superstars as America or Puerto Rico.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 13, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will ESPN ever get rid of this joker? It’s really unbelievable at this point that he continues to have work. That the largest sports media outlet in America employs some of the hackiest (not a word, I know) writers out there is ridiculous. This is the only reason I want ESPN to get a part of the NHL TV deal; so maybe they actually give a damn about the content their site is putting out. Burnside is awful and I echo the sentiment of the ’Nucks fans up there, profanity and all.

by nyynygnjd on Mar 13, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I read you headline and thought

Is that even possible? But after reading your comments, I tend to believe he’s got to be out of people who don’t already hate him now.

And to answer nyynygnjd’s question; remember the old adage, no publicity is bad publicity. I’m sure they keep him simply BECAUSE he is controversial. It adds to their readership and therefore their ability to charge advertising dollars.

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by FrankG929 on Mar 13, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

All I have to say about Burnside is that ignorance is bliss. He is the type of person where no matter what he can’t see anything wrong with what he is saying or the option that what he is saying is false, it’s just his way of thinking.

by pshapiro on Mar 13, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

And no matter what anyone says it won’t change that.

by pshapiro on Mar 13, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess he never thought to think that Crosby and 2/3rds of the nhl is composed of canadians

by Devils!!! on Mar 13, 2011 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

zing!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 13, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell of an ego

Burnside seems so nice on camera; but venomous with his keyboard. Kevin, every American hockey fan owes a great deal to Canada for this game. To me, Canada was always like the really cool uncle you admire in many ways and can’t wait to visit every year.

That being said, there were many Devil fans forgetful of this fact in 2003. Just after the Iraq war started, the Devils were playing Ottawa in the ECF. Too many fans booed the national anthem; there were more us of us telling the idiots to shut up, but it still rattled me a little bit.

But just wondering. What if Burnside singled out Quebecois and left English speaking Canada alone? On the twittersphere, you could just search for “Quebec” or “Quebecois” and “Pacioretty.” You can see what I mean.

I think many Americans and Canadians hold les Quebecois to a different standard sometimes.

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by Cherno77 on Mar 13, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

If he singled out Quebecois, It might be just as bad, if not worse. Going after Canada as a whole means he gets the entire spectrum- from english speakers to francophones. Quebec is mainly francophones, and that might lead to comments about racism. Racism isn’t cool, it’s a lowblow. if he got complaints about racism, i’m sure ESPN wouldn’t like that, and he’d be flipping burgers in a Burger king somewhere.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 13, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canada Backwards?

I guess Burnside has never been in the south…

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by whatjusthappened on Mar 13, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He lives in the South!

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by Matthew Ventolo on Mar 13, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever made his face so orange fried his brain as well.

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by bergenline on Mar 13, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m originally from New Jersey, but I’ve traveled extensively all over Canada. It’s a magnificent nation, and certainly a heck of a lot less backwards than us down here. Burnside should stick to writing airport bookstore pulp like Deadly Innocence.

How could he not foresee that comment ticking off hockey fans? It’s like badmouthing New Jersey at a Springsteen concert.

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by bergenline on Mar 13, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Have any of you stopped to think that this is exactly what ESPN wants?

The “Worldwide Leader in Sports” spends little money and less time covering our sport. I imagine nearly any hockey writer with some talent and credibility is going to gravitate to a publication/publisher who takes the sport more seriously and has some credibility…. which means there isn’t a lot left. Hardcore hockey fans who really want the “inside scoop” are going to go elsewhere for their information and insight, whether it is TSN, The Hockey News, or what have you.

If you can’t corner the market on the best writers, or the best information, all that’s left is to hope for a lot of traffic and website hits. Burnside certainly gives them that, if only from all the righteously indignant. They wait for an article like this to appear, start foaming at the mouth, and tell everyone they know “did you see what that so-and-so just said?”. Then all of us run over there like lemmings to see what he said, and ESPN suddenly has several thousand visitors they otherwise wouldn’t have. When you consider how many web-advertisers pay according to how many people see their ad, and most of those ads are embedded into the page and automatically load when you open up the article….

…. ESPN and Burnside may be crazy, but they may also be crazy like a fox.

by acasser on Mar 13, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

A fox that rides the short bus.

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by slackdog_rm on Mar 13, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have a good point, as seeing they (espn) are the only sports source claiming that Crosby is pondering retirement. That oughta’ boost em for another 10,000 hits.

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by whatjusthappened on Mar 14, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best way to get Brunside fired or to leave would be for everyone to finally just ignore what he is saying. I proudly say that I have never ever read any one of his articles. Seems like I made the right choice.

by Kyle Hamelin on Mar 14, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Avoid him and decrease the traffic. But, that will take far too long and ESPN will not learn.

by Alan Wright on Mar 14, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got it.

That was more or less my point here.

In relevant part:

You can’t educate a hack. You can’t reform a hack. You can’t enlighten a hack. You can only ignore them until they go away.

Every effort to counter or debunk them proves to them and to the world that their opinion is of some merit, and ought to be heard.

by Alan Wright on Mar 14, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't posted in a while but I hate this guy soooo......

Burnside…what can we say. He is the reason hockey fans can get truely heated on forums such as this. I am going to obviously come out and say that his comments regarding Canadians were obviously st00pid. I am also going to say that OFCOURSE Habs fans were going to be most prone to thinking that the Chara’s hit needed a huge penalty. Just like if it were Clarkson run to the boards WE (Devils Fans) would all be upset. However, saying that all of Canada is a “backwards” country and blah blah blah. He obviously jsut can no longer write anything legitimate about hockey that will cause a stir. So he has to denounce a whole country. Great. Good for him. Let him. As much as I wanna say ignore this guy and stop reading his posts…its just so damn hard cuz its always some rediculous nonsense that true hockey fans just shouldnt take seriously. Kinda like how no one will admit to watching “Jersey Shore” yet its still the most watched show on TV. Most people dont want to but cant help to read this rediculousness.
As for those saying that some Canadians will always denounce Americans who claim to know “their” game………. just relax. Its little things like such…that make the Olympics and any hockey tourny so interesting to watch! The rivalry between team Canada and team USA is one of the best things the sport has going aside from the Winter Classic! Anything (logical) to keep this a heated rivalry is for the best of the sport. Let it be.
However, Burnside is one of the worst things going for the sport. Especially since he is on the ESPN site and those people who arent considered “fans” just yet but are curious about the sport are most likely getting there info from him. Yack.

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by MikePelusoTears on Mar 13, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

You may have the best screen name I’ve seen.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Mar 13, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’ve got to say that seeing Mike Peluso overcome with emotion was pretty incredible. But, I was busy being overwhelmed with joy at the time to pay much attention.

Peluso was a bad dude, though.

by Alan Wright on Mar 14, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Mike. My first jersey was an autographed Peluso

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by Murdoc on Mar 15, 2011 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know, it is really disappointing that he thinks this. To go after a team is one thing, but an entire nation… at what point does espn say that is enough.

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by joshd12 on Mar 13, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

When the NFL and the NBA are locked out, and Hockey’s the only thing to watch (PS Thanks LeBron and NFL’s incompetence)

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 13, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes I too hate scott burnside.. i do not however care about canada. lol

by xmarcs on Mar 14, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

That doesn’t make sense. Whats the point of having a gripe with Canada?

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by whatjusthappened on Mar 14, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

You do know how important we are to your economy right? You might want to care there buddy.

by Kyle Hamelin on Mar 14, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Canadian chicks rule.

Burnside is a waste of carbon.

I like pie.

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by Murdoc on Mar 14, 2011 6:30 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well said.

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by slackdog_rm on Mar 14, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Canadian chicks do rule.

Everybody hates Burnside. I think his wife probably hates him.

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by DrWho720 on Mar 16, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honest here…can someone tell me what’s so wrong about that quote? He’s explaining that he thinks it’s ridiculous for Air Canada to threaten pulling its name over one disciplinary ruling. Maybe I’m too detached to sympathize in matters like this.

There is a notion that Canada is like that (this, for example, although admittedly that’s written by Ryan Lambert, or this by Down Goes Brown, playing on the existing stereotypes of Canadians and Americans).

I took more issue with this, right after alluding to passion about hockey in Canada:

And I understand that fan loyalty often leads to blindness when it comes to making rational judgment.

He’s right, but that’s not something you say when you’re an MSM sports journalist.

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by red army line on Mar 14, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe the concern isn’t so much with the comment. People are entitled to their personal opinion, regardless of the ignorance in which it is based. The concern is that he’s a widely read contributor to a major sports outlet, and his opinions have the potential to be widely received as fact. His outlet becomes the vehicle that perpetuates a negative stereotype. He should know better.

Calling Canada small or backward is just plain ignorant. Yes, “they” like hockey. But it’s really no different than the US and “their” love of baseball. I could easily imagine a sponsor of many a ballpark in the US pulling their sponsorship over this sort of matter.

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by Murdoc on Mar 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was more offended by his comments about Canada. They were completely uncalled for and stupid.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read those comments as not “his” but stereotypes that he cites. I can understand if most people, after a quick read, wouldn’t read it that way. I didn’t.

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by red army line on Mar 14, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doh!

I have no idea how I screwed that one up. Maybe they should do a swimsuit edition so they do have at least that going for them.

Wow, how did I mess that up. This is what happens when you try to eat lunch, look at hot models in bathing suits and eat lunch at the same time. Next time I just watch hockey highlights and draw the line there. Lol.

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by Biggs Johnson on Mar 14, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Getting worse

This post was worse than the last. I think I may be losing it. No more posts for me.

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by Biggs Johnson on Mar 14, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Canadian, i’m mad. I’d like to know how exactly Canada’s a backwards nation.

I think he probably thinks Canada is (being) insular and nationalistic. Or, that Air Canada is being so in support of the Montreal Yankees.

But, Burnside is full of malarkey, because Canada is far from insular though it does have a strong sense of pride in itself, as it ought to.

by Alan Wright on Mar 17, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not like Canadians are the only people who’ve even been so passionate about something that maybe they took it a little too far and some of them made an ass out of themselves and made the rest of the country look bad as a result.

As a matter of fact, this sounds like the guidebook to being an American politician…

… or maybe just a politician in any country, I don’t follow international politics so much.

by Alamoth on Mar 18, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

probably the latter, Harper (Canadian prime minister) has made several stupid decisions.

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