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Random Thoughts- Jamie Langenbrunner and Reinforcement

In the MacLean era, there were many things wrong with the team. Some players looked neutered out there.Every defenseman looked like a pylon out there. I could go and attempt to recall everything wrong with the team under MacLean, but I really don't want to recall all the horrors from that era. However, if there was one thing that bothered me during the MacLean era, it was Jamie Langenbrunner. The team told him they had faith in him, they told him he would be the captain throughout the season. Langenbrunner responded by constantly throwing in terrible performance after terrible performance. He'd talk the talk in the locker room, but he didn't walk the walk (or more accurately, skate the walk) on the ice. Earlier in the season, John had a post up about factors that the coaching staff can't control.  He mentioned that the staff can't control the attitudes of players. After MacLean was fired, I kept thinking about what exactly went wrong. I seemed to notice one thing during MacLean's reign- Langenbrunner usually got ice time with the top players, even if he was one of the worst players on the ice. His inability to hold Langenbrunner accountable for his uninspired play might have caused some problems MacLean wouldn't expect. I'll explain my thoughts after the jump.

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The concept in action here is reinforcement. Reinforcement is sometimes intentional, and other times unintentional. It's usually used to alter one's behaviour. Reinforcement is often performed by offering a form of stimulus or incentive towards the subject. For example, when training a dog, owners often give them treats after performing a certain action, like sitting. They are more willing to do these actions knowing that they will get a nice delicious treat after doing it. This type of reinforcement is positive reinforcement, as they're encouraged to perform a certain action more often.

One of my favourite examples of reinforcement occurs in an episode of Daria called "The Lab Brat". In that episode, Daria has to work on a lab project with Kevin, the quarterback of Lawndale high's football team (and my Avatar for SBNation/Twitter). Kevin shows alot of interest in the project, as he finds one component of the project interesting. This is a bad thing for Daria, as Kevin is very stupid and if she let him work on the project with her, she would probably fail. To prevent Kevin from working on the project, she comes up with a plan to distract Kevin by showing him the Pigskin channel. It works, as Kevin's interest in the project disappears knowing that he can watch football Daria's sister Quinn decides to start talking to Kevin and pampering him, as he's very popular and if Quinn became friends with him (or started dating him), she'd become more popular by association. Kevin eventually associates going to Daria's house to work on the project with watching football and getting pampered. The type of reinforcement here is Positive reinforcement, as Kevin keeps returning to Daria's house as he knows he will be able to watch the pigskin channel there. An interesting note here is that Daria did not expect this to happen- she was more interested in her own motives, which was keeping Kevin away from the project.

There's also another type of reinforcement- Negative reinforcement. Because I can't think of a better example, i'll let Daria explain negative reinforcement.


(Because most of you don't watch Daria nearly as much as I do, the context of the example is the relationship between Helen and Jake, Daria's parents.)

This brings me to Langenbrunner. While I don't know all of the details involving Langenbrunner and MacLean's relationship, I did notice that Langenbrunner was one of the few Devils who rarely recieved punishment (from what i've heard/seen). Langenbrunner almost always received ice time with at least one top 6 forward when he was on the team. Despite having good teammates on the ice with him, he only managed 4 goals and 10 assists in 31 games. Some of it could be attributed to percentages, some could've been attributed to his injuries and some of it could be attributed towards his lack of enthusiasm. MacLean didn't really do much to discipline Langenbrunner for his Kovalev-esque play- perhaps out of respect for the team's on ice leader, or perhaps out of fear because he didn't want to lose Langenbrunner's trust, and subsequently the locker room.

MacLean not punishing Langenbrunner is a form of reinforcement- Langenbrunner sees that MacLean doesn't really care about what happens on the ice. Whether Langs looks like Gretzky out there or is playing worse than Andrew Peters, MacLean never really took any actions to address Langenbrunner. This is can be considered positive reinforcement, as MacLean's actions essentially rewarded Langenbrunner for not caring and playing badly. Langs perhaps felt he could get away with alot of stuff because MacLean would give him quality ice time regardless of his on-ice performance, which might have explained his uninspired play.

While I don't like recalling events from the MacLean era, I felt that this was something interesting to talk about. While i'm not too sure what went on in the locker room or between MacLean and Langs, I just wanted to throw in a few of my thoughts on a potential cause for Langs' lack of effort this season. It's definitely not the sole cause of Langs problems, or the biggest, but it could've at least been a factor. Or not.

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I agree that a new coach doesn’t necessarily know to handle the established captain. In my own experience, when the head coach was out for the first part of the year, I had to deal with a captain who was picked the year earlier. He was pretty egotistical, but still a good kid who meant well. His ego just got the better of him and on bad days; he only trusted himself.

So it was a lot of playing personalities off of each other, using his few friends some days to level with him, individual talks on others day or on some occasions, just captains’ practices to change the dynamic that spoke & challenged him in a smaller, more trusted group where he didn’t have to prove himself. Wonder if Johnny Mac used Oates, Robinson or Parise or others to try and level with Langs? Or just kept hiding from the problem and hammering away in normal fashion as usual?

The worst thing I think you can do as a head coach is not to try and use of all your options because there’s a fear you’ll look weak. So, you shut the door and drown out the other voices because you have to show everyone you can do it alone.

Someday, I’m sure MacLean will vent on what was really going on. Or some player will get traded and let it slip.

BTW – the Daria references are esoteric to many here I believe. Many love MIke Judge who obviously had roots to Daria, but to really hammer it home how MacLean handled this situation is better served with an established classic. Though I consider the oft-forgotten Idiocracy to be his magnum opus, the clip should serve well.

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by Cherno77 on Mar 25, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Kovalchuk deserves more blame than Langenbrunner or maybe just as much. He was garbage in the first half they both were but Kovalchuk was especially bad. He was averaging like what less than half a point per game? Nobody on the team had a problem with him but you guys try to draw up conlusion to pin most of the blame on Langs. He has done a great job for us helping us win a cup. Last two seasons he has been great, this year not so much. Point is if you want to blame Langenbrunner because he was the captain, Kovalchuk should get as much blame because he is our best player that was healthy and played like crap. You can also blame guys like Greene and Zajac for not stepping up either. And obviously the coach.

by zach parise9 on Mar 25, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

That's not quite right

Read the post again – the point was that one of MacLean’s biggest failings as a head coach was how he handled players. Langenbrunner is the focal point because he was all over the place in terms of performance, usually on the wrong side of it. Which comes a surprise since one would expect he’d be rather happy to not be coached by Lemaire after last season.

Because he would often be a non-factor on the ice, MacLean’s lack of punishment by reduced ice time or what have you only served notice to Langenbrunner and the rest of the team that if you’re favored on the team, then you can play poorly without risk of anything happening to your spot. That’s negative reinforcement and short of any new revelations (as Cherno77 noted in an earlier comment), this is as good of an explanation of part of what went on in the first half of the season.

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by John Fischer on Mar 25, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

“MacLean era, it was Jamie Langenbrunner. The team told him they had faith in him, they told him he would be the captain throughout the season. Langenbrunner responded by constantly throwing in terrible performance after terrible performance. He’d talk the talk in the locker room, but he didn’t walk the walk (or more accurately, skate the walk) on the ice.”

That sounds like he is trying to pin some blame on Langenbrunner. My point was the guy is the most blamed player and it should be the top guys like Kovalchuk and Zajac getting some of the blame. I don’t really see anyone blaming Kovalchuk at all and I think he is getting off easy. Sure he has played good lately but it doesn’t make up for the way he played before. I never was a huge fan of his before he came to this team and still am not. He is an exciting player but parts of his game don’t impress me.

by zach parise9 on Mar 25, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you get it- i’m looking at one problem (not everyone had it, i’m sure John, Tom, Matt or any other commenter felt the EXACT same way as me- hence the “random thoughts” title) with a player’s performance. There were tons of people to blame- MacLean for his inability to coach and terrible tactics, Rolston for his uninspired play, the entire D group (Save Colin White) for routinely leaving Marty to dry. I’m not blaming Langs at all for this, i’m just looking at a potential problem Langs had this season that affected his play.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 25, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

re- negative reinforcement, you are right too John. I was more interested in taking a look at the positive side of it. MacLean rewarding him with ice time for his performances regardless did increase Langenbrunner’s likelihood of playing terribly.

The relationship did probably get strained, but I was more interested in looking at it’s effects on Langs rather than their relationship.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 25, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

See: John’s comment. He beat me to the punch

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 25, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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