Please Think Before Yelling at Games
by smarthockey on Mar 9, 2011 8:59 AM EST
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PrintThe last several games I have been to, I have noticed a disturbing trend: Devils fans are becoming the least informed and stupidest fans in the NHL. Maybe the Brendan Byrne Arena drowned out all of the stupid yells with its cavernous ceilings, where The Rock tends to keep the noise level higher may also be true. But on a night where there was stupid enough on the ice between bad passes, rushed shots, not letting the play develop and terrible officiating by both the refs and the linesmen, I was disappointed to hear just as much stupid coming from the people around me.
1. If you had enough time to yell SHOOT IT! the lane is closed and the shot will be blocked by a player, not the goalie, and will probably bounce straight towards our defensive end where there should be an opposing winger closing in on the puck before one of our defensemen. That is physics and positional hockey in 2011, this is not the 80s where the puck actually hurt a player in the leg when they stopped it. It is now commonplace for players to try and stop the puck and deflect it to a forward who is breaking out of the zone. It is impossible to go from taking a slapshot to chasing a forward who just blocked your shot. In summary, STOP YELLING SHOOT IT!
2. Be aware of who is on the ice. I am aware that we are in the US, that we all cheer for a team based in the US, and because Lou comes from a college hockey background, we usually have more US born players than any other team we are playing. BUT do not chant U-S-A! U-S-A! when Jacob Josefson, Matias Tedenby, Vladimir Zharkov, Anssi Salmella, and Colin White are on the ice. Two Swedes, a Fin, a Russian and a Canadian may be the beginning of a joke somewhere, but it is not a time to yell U-S-A!
3. Being angry that a player dumped the puck in instead of trying to take Philips, Kuba, Karlsson, or Spezza 1 on 1 into the offensive zone is stupid. Those are three fantastic defensemen and one of the best centers in the game. There are two people on our roster that have the potential to win that battle consistently, and 50% of them just recently was cleared to start skating on his own. (Speaking of which, when Parise does comes back, you can yell U-S-A! all you want). This is also true of the last Tampa Bay game where the crowd was booing when the Devils were being patient and playing fantastic defense against the Stamkos line. That has been the best line in hockey ALL YEAR, show a little respect and be supportive of our boys when we can take the NHL's leading scorer out of a game.
4. Would the person who started adding "you suck" to the yelling of HEY! (since we play rock and roll part 1 as a goal song) own up that it was a bad idea. It's classless, and since that has been chanted we haven't won a single playoff round and have just enjoyed the worst first half of any Devils team ever.
Hockey is a great game, and one that I love and adore to a fault. As someone that has been a Devils fan for as long as he has lived in the great state of NJ (1987, where I was 7 at the time) I have long defended us as a fanbase to the stupid Ranger and Flyer fans. We don't want to turn into them, so please be smarter at games.
Thank you.
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Devils fans are becoming the least informed and stupidest fans in the NHL.
So wait, how exactly did we jump over the mountains of stupidity known as the Flyers and Red Wings fanbases?
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 9, 2011 9:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, haha. Every other team has fans doing the EXACT same things at their games.
by undersuspicion426 on Mar 9, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'm neutral to all the others
but disagree with this
4. Would the person who started adding “you suck” to the yelling of HEY! (since we play rock and roll part 1 as a goal song) own up that it was a bad idea. It’s classless, and since that has been chanted we haven’t won a single playoff round and have just enjoyed the worst first half of any Devils team ever.
I like it.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
me too
I get the classless argument but its not like were throwing stinkbombs on the ice. And the word" suck" stops being obscene in the fifth grade, no matter what its supposed to mean.
Ilya Kovalchuk is good at hockey
by 3 already on Mar 9, 2011 11:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You're like a vacuum
you suck
(hey maybe that can be a new chant: “you’re a vacuum”. Err, maybe not)
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Oh, I don't know
Vacuum Rangers, clap clap, clap clap clap
It fits OK.
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Go Jets
Agreed.
It’s not like we’re adding obscenities after “Hey!”. IMO, a little light hearted antagonizing of players making far more money than most people will ever see is not something to get worked up over.
Love It
If that was the worst thing you hear at a game, I could see your point. My kids learn all sorts of new words at a Devils game (at least that’s what I want to believe).
Personally, I want The Rock to be a place where the visiting team is harassed as often as possible.
I diagree with this for an entirely different reason
The song played is Rock and Roll Part 2. Part 1 has lyrics other than “Hey” all through the song.
Go Devils Playoff Death Watch
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Go Jets
Of all the things I yell at a Devils game in the cheap seats, "You Suck" is the least of anybodies worries.
There is nothing quite as satisfying as out running security after you've punched out a Flyers fan!
"I was in the moment, and the moment said smack you." - Bruce Willis
As a Thrashers’ fan we do everything the article talked about. Well, they stopped playing “Rock And Roll part 1” in our arena some time ago, but people still yell “You suck!” but to some other song.
I like you guys. I really do. I’m STILL a Kovy fan. That’s why I post here every now and then. So I’m going to tell you about something that some fans do in our arena that you don’t do in yours that might make you feel better.
During the long period between the departure of the Flames and the arrival of the Thrashers, the IHL put a team in Atlanta between 1992-93 and 1995-96. That was the only pro hockey in Atlanta during that long period between NHL teams. For some reason during the national anthem local fans began to yell “Knights!” during the “… gave proof through the night…” part of the anthem when it reach the word “night”. It was kind of cool – at the time. Once the Thrashers came into being just a few years later, the local fans kept up the tradition. Even today a very vocal minority (less than half the fans for sure) STILL does it. OK, in 1999 or maybe 2000 it was cute. It no longer is. To continue to “honor” a long defunct minor league team makes no sense at all and in my opinion all it does it just add fuel to the fire of hate we face as southern hockey fans that we don’t deserve an NHL team. I mean, if so many people are so in love with an old minor league team, is that all we should have? The continued insistence of a minority of our fan base on doing this is VERY controversial. Those who love it think it’s the greatest thing ever. I think it’s the biggest fan idiocy in the NHL to continue to do this. Every year the number of people who do it gets a little smaller. Maybe if we still have a team in 10 years people will finally stop doing it then. So be glad Devils fans that you do not have to cringe every time the national anthem plays because 20-40% of the fans in attendance are idiots who continue to yell out in support of a team that hasn’t been on the ice in almost 15 years now and wasn’t even an NHL team to begin with.
I’ve been to few games in Atlanta this year (and going to the one this Friday) and I don’t mind the “Knights” chant during the anthem. I think honoring any past hockey club shows that people in the area actually know the history of hockey and acknowledge it. It debunks the “this isn’t a hockey market” stigma Thrashers fans and Atlanta have.
I don’t find it controversial – it’s not like everyone is laughing or cheering for a long period of time during the anthem. It’s one word. Many colleges and other teams do it as well. Examples: Cornell yells “red” at “And the rocket’s red glare” and Syracuse and Orioles fans yell “Ohh” at “Oh say does that Star-spangled.”
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by Matthew Ventolo on Mar 9, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Difference – those teams STILL exist.
It’s still incredibly controversial here and I think it’s the stupidest @#$% ever while those who love it are completely and utterly unable to understand why everyone does not agree with them. And if you were to get to know the people who like to do it, your opinion might change of the practice and how much those people actually know about hockey.
You have an interesting take on it though, I’ll give you that.
I have no problem will the people who yell shoot. Its just an impulse and a pro hockey player wont be effected by it. Its like when a baseball fan says" hit a home run." If the hitter tries to hit a home run he’s probably going to strike out, but what mlb player listens to a homerun thirsty fan. I acknowledge the stupidity of some fans but the rock isn’t the only arena with these fans.
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by 3 already on Mar 9, 2011 11:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Uh oh!
Here comes the Waaaaaaambulance!
I remember the similar argument that started before the season began about the chants that ring through the Rock.
If you don’t like the chanting and cheering that fans generate during a game, then just stay home and watch on TV. You may think that these die hard fans are “stupid” because they chant Shoot when we’re on the PP, but they may think that you’re the “stupid” one sitting there and sulking during a game because of a loud and boisterous crowd.
Just enjoy the game when you go. If you don’t like the chants, ignore them. If you do like them, join in. Don’t be a buzzkill because people are there having fun, supporting their favorite team, trying to be the 7th man on the ice.
So don’t be so serious, and more important, please don’t be so high and mighty and so pompous. When I go to the games, I prefer to watch the action live. I’m not the biggest one to cheer, especially since my voice will be cracked by the first round of “Let’s go Devils.” But I will never look down on or show any scorn to a fan who wants to be loud and show their support in a manner that they deem fitting.
This is hockey, not the ballet, after all.
So this is what it's like to be an Islanders fan...
Wait…is it wrong to yell at the ballet? No wonder my Let’s go Anastasia Goryacheva!!! chants are never well received. Hmmph.
I hope to join Claude Lemieux in Hell one day for a beer....
by HELLAWAITS on Mar 9, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Shout it out!
Stupid fans make me laugh
Stupid fans make me smile
Stupid fans as they might be
They sometimes start a scoring spree
When your team in lacking might
Stupid fans must all unite
And yell and scream all night long
Until the other team is gone
So if your ears are offended
And you think you might hit the floor
Find your own thing to say
And Yell until you can’t hear any more
Stupid fans, oh stupid fans
Please do not go away
You make me smile and laugh all game
And you get our tired stars to play
Gary Glitter
It’s Rock and Roll (Part II), not part one. Just saying.
by David 'Epic' Kaplan on Mar 9, 2011 1:39 PM EST reply actions
Hmmm...maybe the song itself is the problem? Gary was no angel....
Gary Glitter (born Paul Francis Gadd, May 8, 1944 in Banbury, Oxfordshire) is a rock & pop singer who came to prominence in the glam rock era of the early 1970s. His reputation was greatly tarnished and his popularity quickly declined following a child pornography conviction, although he continued to record and release new work until his arrest and conviction on child abuse charges in 2006.
I hope to join Claude Lemieux in Hell one day for a beer....
So wait, your telling me this guy was into kiddie porn?
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by whatjusthappened on Mar 9, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but
Technically, I think we use a cover. Almost every sports team does.
by David 'Epic' Kaplan on Mar 9, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
If they’re using a cover why not find/make one that has some distortion or some type of actual metal sound to the song.
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by whatjusthappened on Mar 9, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
We should have a version that has "you suck" in it, that ought to ruffle some feathers.
There is nothing quite as satisfying as out running security after you've punched out a Flyers fan!
"I was in the moment, and the moment said smack you." - Bruce Willis
If you don’t like the fan-base, get out of the stadium. If your going to be a big whiney baby about the fans don’t come at all, we don’t want you there. Yes some people yell “Shoot!” I’m not one of them but I can see where they are coming from sometimes. Believe it or not some casual fans don’t play hockey and they don’t have that vast superior knowledge of hockey like yourself, or know what its like to be out there on the rink, so it’s really not that big of a deal. Who cares what country the players are from if some fans want to chant USA let them, because remember this is the USA a country that was founded on the ideal that people should be allowed to chant whatever the hell they want. The fact is you’re an anti-social person and have very little tolerance for those around you, so please stop coming to games if its really that bad. I’m sure you have a nice dark basement where you wont be bothered by the “stupidest fans in the nhl”.
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by whatjusthappened on Mar 9, 2011 2:06 PM EST reply actions
I feel like a post like this pops up every two months or so.
I have issues with all the chants, but I won’t delve into that again. But putting my Bob Uecker mask on for a second, why is it necessary for people to scream during the National Anthem. You wait until the end of the song to scream or clap. Is it that hard?
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by Biggs Johnson on Mar 9, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
1. People yell “shoot it” during the PP at every arena I’ve ever been too, including various ECHL and AHL arenas. I understand what you are saying, but it is what it is.
2. The Devils play in the USA and their fans live in the USA. Maybe we should stop playing the anthem before the game? Or only when we choose an all-american starting line-up?
3. You specifically reference something from last nights game, when last night was drunken college idiots night. I wouldn’t use that game as any kind of example.
4. I yell “you suck” louder than anyone and enjoy it every time.
Lighten up dude, its a hockey game, not the opera.
The more fans at the arena, “stupid” or not, the better!
LETS GO DEVILS!
Wait…is it wrong to yell at the opera? No wonder my Let’s go Placido Domingo!!! chants are never well received. Hmmph.
I hope to join Claude Lemieux in Hell one day for a beer....
You’ve done this joke earlier in the post. No recs.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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by John Fischer on Mar 9, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for keeping me in check. Thank you.
I hope to join Claude Lemieux in Hell one day for a beer....
I like it!
Let’s Go Placido – clap, clap, clapclapclap
by ConnDadFrank on Mar 10, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
ENRICO PALLOZZO! ENRICO PALLOZZO! ENRICO PALLOZZO!!!
There is nothing quite as satisfying as out running security after you've punched out a Flyers fan!
"I was in the moment, and the moment said smack you." - Bruce Willis
by slackdog_rm on Mar 9, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
CA-RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-SO
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Go Jets
I can get behind first point – yeah, get excited and loud, but people need to stop demanding that the Devils shoot when they have the puck for more than a second. Believe it or not, firing a shot with a guy in front of you or from the sideboards on an acute angle are terrible ideas.
I think the problem I have with the national anthem is that there is some moron who needs to yell “WHERE’S ARLETTE” whenever she’s not singing the national anthem; or something else when there’s a lull in the anthem.
The last two – eh. I have no beef with Rock and Roll Pt. 2.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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Is it bad
I don’t know who Kate Smith is either?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
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I used to yell “Rhona”
For those of you too young, Rhona Klinghoffer was the Devils first regular anthem singer. Man could she hit the high notes.
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Go Jets
Being angry that a player dumped the puck in instead of trying to take Philips, Kuba, Karlsson, or Spezza 1 on 1 into the offensive zone is stupid.
I see the point but that d-man possibly could be used as a screen if the angle is right.
Would the person who started adding “you suck” to the yelling of HEY! (since we play rock and roll part 1 as a goal song) own up that it was a bad idea. It’s classless, and since that has been chanted we haven’t won a single playoff round and have just enjoyed the worst first half of any Devils team ever.
I (and anyone with at least 1 functioning eye) believe that the 1st half of this season had more to do with a coach that had the players skating around like a bunch of chickens with their collective heads cut off then it did with the song we play after each goal. Even if we screamed “HEY!! You’re not that bad.” the 1st half of the year would’ve still been a clusterf(censored). Playoffs I think it has to deal more with the team not showing up then the song we play.
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That’s extremely mean yet extremely funny.
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by Matthew Ventolo on Mar 10, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
on a more serious note...
one of the things i love about hockey is that its a lot more ballsy than most sports, even with the fans. tons of teams have similar “hey you suck” chants. I live in DC now and see the devs play at the verizon center, and even the squeeky clean DC nice sports fans have a “its all your fault” chant when they score and yell at the goalie. Stop making a big deal about our chants. I love our chants and I’m sick of uptight devs fans making a fuss over a good time. Go devs.
-Boms
by NJBoms on Mar 10, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I didn't make a big deal about chants...
I made an observation about the goal scoring song. I didn’t say it was obscene, its not, its classless. There is a difference. I don’t find it fun. I have been to games in Toronto, Chicago, Atlanta, NYC, St. Louis, Buffalo, and so on. They have fun goal songs, the celebrate the goal, not piss on the team that got scored on.
Projecting me as anti-social is unfair, as I am not, and have been going to Devils games longer and more frequently than most. I love live hockey, there is nothing like it. I love the obscene random chants. I love the idiocy of yelling that the Rangers suck when they don’t at the moment (because they are chanting all the time that a player who hasn’t played in over 20 years sucks). This is not a rant condemning the live experience.
I also watch more hockey than most. I have had the NHL package for many years now, the “I adore it to a fault” applies here. You can hear what people yell. As a fan base we are turning into the angry bitter stupid fanbases of the Rangers and Flyers by booing our team when we should be cheering and supporting them. That was the point of this. If Jaques Lemaire had Clarkson take an extra shift to take care of someone who just threw a cheapshot at say… St. Patty Elias… and then was fined by the league, would we as a fanbase collect the money and offer to pay it like the fans of Buffalo did a couple years back for Lindy Ruff? Based on what I have been hearing the last couple seasons at games and what I am reading here I don’t.
This was an observation and a suggestion to not be idiots. At no point have I sulked, complained, felt the urge to leave before the three stars of the game are announced. If you want to be an idiot, be my guest. You are entitled to it. It will not detract from my enjoyment of the game. We are one of the few fanbases that support a team that has our state right on their chest. They represent us, I was hoping we could represent them a little better.
I have watched all but about three Devils games this season, some live, most on TV. I also watched every single Giants game this season save for the Detroit game (thank you Cablevision). But just like you pointing out how many games you go to or watch on TV, that has nothing to do with anything in this topic.
I just wanted to respond because of some comments that I found to be pretty funny.
I made an observation about the goal scoring song. I didn’t say it was obscene, its not, its classless.
I love the obscene random chants. I love the idiocy of yelling that the Rangers suck when they don’t at the moment (because they are chanting all the time that a player who hasn’t played in over 20 years sucks).
So chanting that the opposing team sucks when we score on them is classless, but yelling that the Rangers suck, even during the 38 home games that we don’t play them, is OK in your eyes?
So this is what it's like to be an Islanders fan...
by Marty 4 Prez on Mar 10, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
So chanting that the opposing team sucks when we score on them is classless, but yelling that the Rangers suck, even during the 38 home games that we don’t play them, is OK in your eyes?
I thought the same thing.
Maybe we should all just politely golf clap the next time they score a goal…that’s classy right?
That’s awfully nice of you to be looking out for all of us. Sorry we disappointed you. We are just idiots after all I guess.
…In case you couldn’t tell, I’m responding sarcastically to what I find to be a very condescending post, where you take a holier than thou stance on all of us. Thank you for showing us our crooked ways Ghost of Christmas Present.
“At no point have I sulked, complained…” —-wasn’t this whole post to tell us how you were disappointed about how us fans behave stupidly? How was this anything but a complaint?
This should have been your original post. It makes a lot more sense to me.
I love to yell and chant, but am 99% supportive, and agree thats the better approach.
Sometimes you have to be a little critical, like whenever Mottau was on the ice last season. Or whenever they showed JMac on the big screen this season.
I always joke that the only people who hate the Rangers more than us are Ranger fans. I would find it annoying if most Devils fans turned into that.
Even during the horrible first half, I didn’t boo. I bought jerseys.
However, 90% of the Buffalo fans I’ve met know absolutely nothing about hockey. And I’ve met a bunch.
na-na-na-na HEY! You SUCK!!
Wow.. dude just watch the games. Hard to believe you had the time to write up this whiny rant. Yes, fans like to yell you suck. Fans are not yelling shoot it because they refuse to shoot it at a blocked shooting lane.. they’re yelling it because the power play probably hasn’t generated a shot yet. Yes the rest are due to idiots at hockey games but just be happy they bought a ticket and stop whining.
This new fan is acting like a snob.
1: Yelling "Shoot it!" doesn’t make you dumb. Yeah sometimes there’s no shot. But when I watch the Devils on a 5-on-3 for 80 SECONDS without shooting, I’m going to start screaming anything I damn well want. You can’t score a goal without shooting it! You can’t convert a power play without shooting it! Give me a break
2: I never see this so I don’t know what you’re talking about
3: I want to see action every single shift. Sometimes I get real excited seeing someone charge up the ice, only to dump it in. Sure, it’s technically sound, but can you blame a guy for hoping? As a fan, I want to see goals all the time, always, on every shift. Stop being a hockey snob.
4: "since that has been chanted we haven’t won a single playoff round"
OKAY NOW I AM MAD. You either only became a Devils fan a few years ago, or you have a really terrible memory. Devils fans have been chanting "YOU SUCK" for YEARS now. Years and years and years. I sure as hell remember yelling "YOU SUCK" back in 2003 during the playoffs when they won the Stanley Cup. Never won a playoff round since that my ass.
In 2005 (2006?), when Gary Glitter got arrested for molesting Vietnamese kids, the Devils stopped playing that song at home games and started using Blur’s "Song 2" instead. Nobody liked it, because nobody cared about Gary Glitter, and eventually the Devils decided to return to the good old "YOU SUCK" music and people started chanting it again. THIS IS NOT A NEW THING. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
Don’t act like a snob when you’ve only been following the team for a few years!!
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