Is Lou Lamorstatusquo done making moves?
Aside from signing Parise that is. TG has reported that Lou won't add without subtracting. We keep hearing Salvador is progressing, but until he gets on the ice with 19 other players, we really won't know; nor will Lou. I feel that Lou is going to hedge his bets, much like last season and not make a decision until training camp comes around.
I have been pretty vocal in my belief that Salvador will not play again. If Lou waits until camp to see where Bryce stands, I can see this as a possible training camp roster:
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($6.600m) / Travis Zajac ($3.887m) / Nick Palmieri ($0.801m)
Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.666m) / Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Mattias Tedenby ($0.875m)
Brian Rolston ($5.062m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m)
David Clarkson ($2.666m) / Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / Vladimir Zharkov ($0.577m)
Rod Pelley ($0.550m)
DEFENSEMEN
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m)
Colin White ($3.000m) / Andy Greene ($3.000m)
Bryce Salvador ($2.900m) / Mark Fayne ($0.542m)
Matthew Taormina ($0.550m)
GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($5.200m) / Johan Hedberg ($1.250m)
BUYOUTS: Jay Pandolfo ($0.833m) / Andrew Peters ($0.166m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,155,001; BONUSES: $240,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $144,999
If Salvador cannot come back, I'm sure Lou will pluck one of the many as yet unsigned, serviceable UFA defensemen to fill that spot, and in all probability, be able to get 2 players for the just over $3M he'll have available.
What do you think? Will Lou make that big trade, or remain Mr. Status Quo? Post your roster prognostications below. CapGeek's salary cap calculator is here. Please use it before you have the Devils sign outrageously priced UFAs. Oh wait, never mind; Lou didn't when re-signing Greene.
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I don’t think Lou’s done, and I don’t think he’ll wait for training camp. Right now it’s a seller’s market, as teams still have cap space open, and floor teams still need a lot of salary to reach the salary floor. By training camp, a lot of that will have dried up. I think he’ll make a move in the next few days.
Teams still have cap space open, yes, but it doesn’t look like any teams (maybe the Isles, but doubtful) will have trouble reaching the cap floor. Teams who are below floor have RFAs to sign. So if that was the hope I think that ship has sailed.
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Yeah- at least 6 of the $15 M Nashville has in cap space will be used up by Shea Weber’s new contract.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 7, 2011 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s true. There are 7 teams not at the cap floor right now and they have to add:
Nashville: $12.5MM
NYI: $10.4MM
Colorado: $6MM
Winnipeg: $4.7MM
Phoenix: $2.8MM
Ottawa: $1.2MM
Carolina: $1.3MM
Carolina and Ottawa will get to the floor simply by the salaries of those players in roster spots they have yet to fill.
Phoenix have 3 RFAs to sign along with a possible promotion of Ekman-Larsson
Winnipeg have 3 RFAs which includes Wheeler & Bogosian.
Colorado have 4 RFAs and might have the ELCs of Landeskog, Elliot or Hishon
Isles have 5 spots left to fill, 6 RFAs, plus ELC of Niederreiter
Nashville has the most to fill at 12.5MM but has Weber plus 4 other RFAs to sign along with a possible ELC of Ryan Ellis. Considering Nashville just dumped salary, I don’t anticipate them having trouble getting to the floor.
The argument that teams need salary to reach the floor and that will open up a market for a Devils trade isn’t reasonable.
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islanders’ RFAs are all worthless, they won’t hit the floor unless they also bring strome into the NHL, or they sign a UFA.
while it’s true that most of these teams will likely hit the floor, just hitting it probably isn’t sufficient – you’d want to go over by $1M or so. i agree that a market isn’t open because these teams need to hit the floor, but rather they need players and hitting the floor is an ancillary benefit.
I think the Islanders are the only option for the scenario you set up, they cannot realistically reach the Floor without a decent-sized ($3M+) coming back the other way. But I suspect they have an asset to trade to get that contract in Evgeni Nabokov.
I think the Isles will utilize their ELCs to get to the floor. Plus Comeau should get a good raise.
But let’s assume they do want to trade… who do the Devils have that the Islanders would even want and that would actually contribute for them? I don’t see any of the usual suspects (Rolston, Clarkson or Zubrus) playing or being in upgrade within their top 9.
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I dont think the Devils and Islanders would have a trade either. But I think their Salary Floor issues go away with a trade of Nabokov.
Although Zubrus would be an upgrade as a Center in NY.
Beggar’s can’t be choosers. Especially when the return is essentially a little over $3 million in cap space.
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by John Fischer on Jul 7, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
if all else for Ottawa, Jared Cowen could just fill that spot (if he makes the team)
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 7, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Couldn’t agree more about Greene, I would have offered him maybe 2.1 otherwise would have let him walk.
by shinny_comes_first on Jul 6, 2011 11:18 PM EDT reply actions
In case anyone is interested...
Capgeek’s calculated buyout of Andy Greene’s deal after two seasons: http://bit.ly/n9VBYc
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Yes, absolutely. While I still dislike the deal, I hate buying people out with 1+. I get really aggravated looking at Andrew Peters on the Devils cap this year.
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I really think Salvador is going to be the lone subtraction and that’s going to be because of health issues.
I imagine the team is still going to be looking to add a veteran presence on the blue line via the UFA market. If that is the case, what of McCabe on a one year contract? Veteran offensive D-man who may be looking for a paycut and come on board as a roleplayer.
I agree. If they didn’t do anything last year, when the situation was much more pressing (for both compliance and locker room concerns) I think Salvador is the one move.
McCabe on a one year deal would be OK with me. Just not anything longer than that.
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But moving Salvador off the roster and replacing him with McCabe would likely cost us more money. Less than $2.9M for McCabe seems unlikely. How about Niclas Wallin?
Here is the remaining UFA List.
I don’t think McCabe would/will get that much. I think he would get Martinek $$ ($2.2MM) at most.
Wallin signed in Europe didn’t he?
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Oops on Wallin, I knew there was a reason we didn’t hear about him anymore.
That’s a big paycut Stivali, he made over $4M last year with an almost $6M Cap Hit.
Id pick Anton Stralman up myself, but…
Looking at your roster, where are the two rookie Adams? I think Henrique and Larsson will make the team. For sure Henrique will, he wont be blocked by Zharkov or Pelley.
Also, I doubt Parise gets a $6.6M cap hit this year. An arbitrator is going to give Parise a 32% increase in salary coming off an injury?
And why is Clarkson playing LW?
Lets be honest
An arbitrator may or may not award that amount to Zach, but I’m pretty sure most of us are banking on Parise being locked up long term before it ever gets to that point. Nobody wants arbitration to actually happen; that is the worst-case scenario.
Status quo.
Agreed.
He sure as hell won’t be getting 15 year contract like Kovy, but I’m pretty sure he’ll land somewhere around the same cap hit; especially with Brad Richards – a lesser player IMHO – receiving 6.5 AAV a few days ago.
Status quo.
That’s true, but so was Patty Elias and he got a $7.5M salary ($6M Cap Hit) from the Devils as a 30-year old for the following 7 years. To me, there is no way Parise gets less than $6M AAV.
Next year at this time, Parise may well blow past $8M AAV. And the Devils will have the cap room to pay it.
But only if he has a big season.
Here is the catch. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT ZACH PARISE WILL RETURN TO HIS PRE-INJURY PERFORMANCE LEVEL!!!
That's exactly the point, though
It seems likely to me that he can command at least 6.5ish this year because if he becomes a UFA he could fetch that $8MM either from the Devils or someone else; both of those things aren’t extremely pleasant from our point of view. By the same token, Zach probably doesn’t want to head into a season coming off an injury with the risk that he goes down and never gets his big contract. It seems mutually beneficial for both sides to negotiate long term right now.
Status quo.
Is the orginazation acting like it is in their best interest to sign Parise long-term now? They don’t seam to be in any rush.
What’s the rush? There is a deadline. If it’s not done by the arbitration hearing, then worry.
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No rush
I suppose we’ll find out within a month or hopefully sooner.
I wont be surprised if they sign a 1 year deal or just go to arbitration.
Looking at your roster, where are the two rookie Adams? I think Henrique and Larsson will make the team. For sure Henrique will, he wont be blocked by Zharkov or Pelley.
Maybe. I think it’s just as likely for neither of them to be on the NHL roster at the start of the season.
Henrique is blocked at center by Zajac, Elias, Josefson, and Steckel. He’s blocked at wing on the first three lines too. Unless Clarkson is downright terrible again, he’s likely locked in at one of the 4th line wing spots. That leaves Pelley and Zharkov to swap in and out at the other wing. That kind of role would be a waste for Henrique, who would be better served playing more consistent minutes at Albany to start the season.
As for Larsson, there are cap considerations. His cap hit will likely be between $3MM and $3.5MM, so moving Salvador to LTIR or Albany wouldn’t be enough by itself to fit Larsson and have a cushion left over.
The case for having them both on the roster comes into play if Larsson wins a spot on the NHL roster right away. If he does, a forward spot opens up because of the move to clear cap space, and Henrique likely has first crack at that opening.
I can see Larsson not making it. Though Lou said he’ll get every opportunity to make the club. Whatever that means to Mr. Status Quo, who can say?
I don’t see Elias blocking Henrique. Indeed, maybe they’ll play on the same line.
Well, it could change if there is a trade or injury but what about:
ZP, Zajak, Tedenby
Kovy, Josefson, Palmieri
Elias, Henrique, Zubrus
Rolston, Steckel, Clarkson
Pelley
Actual combinations can vary, but that looks OK to me.
I don’t see Teddy playing on the first line this year. I also don’t see Palmieri making the top six with Parise back and I would be bummed to be giving Elias third line minutes when he scored the most points for us last season. It also would make me extremely mad to be paying our fourth line over $8 mil.
by undersuspicion426 on Jul 7, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that would be an expensive 4th line. But the money is already spent so it doesn’t really matter.
Forget the line combinations, barring a trade or injury those 13 guys will be our forwards this year.
I see Zharkov over Henrique at this point. Henrique needs significant time as I see it. IF that can be done without squeezing anyone else who deserves it out, then so be it. But how does that happen?
I’ve got to agree with Skuba. The only way I see Henrique breaking into the lineup this year is if Clarkson or Zubrus moves on in a cap-clearing move.
I think Elias is going to have to play at C rather than LW, because pairing him with Rolston seems to be the only way to get anything out of Rolston. Leaving the lines at something like:
Parise—Zajac—Palmieri or Zubrus
Kovalchuk—Josefson—Tedenby
Rolston — Elias — Zubrus or Palmieri
Pelley or Clarkson — Steckel — Clarkson or Zharkov
Next season, once Rolston is gone, I could see Henrique playing center with Elias on his left wing.
I think Henrique and Larsson will make the team.
Major stumbling block with Larsson at this time. He doesn’t have a contract with the Devils. You don’t see anybody else on that list that isn’t currently under contract or an RFA.
And why is Clarkson playing LW?
Sorry I didn’t move everybody around.
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i think Matthew Taormina should be a regular in our lineup, in the beginning of the year he stood out to me even though he was a rookie and the rest of the team was slumping. So we need to get rid of Salvador, fraser, and corrente
I think you’re right on this one. Taormina will be Top 6, with Salvador either unable to play due to health, or being moved altogether.
Man, that $1M buyout money hurts.
If all else we could just use Taormina as an extra forward like the Habs did with Bergeron and Streit- our 4th line is full of special teamers anyways (Steckel, Pelley, Zharkov)
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 7, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes Lou is done...
making moves. why does he need to make moves at this point other than to try to fit Larsson into the lineup? Even if Lou does nothing now and just leaves the roster the way it is, you know someone on defense is going to get hurt and will probably be placed on IR so Larsson can come up to the line up then.
If this is a sellers’ market then who is going to want some of the bad contracts here when they can get bigger contract for a higher quality player some place else? Some of the teams that have yet to reach the floor can take a contract off of a team that is looking to sign a RFA from another team. IE Stamkos to Philly. The talent in Philly with the amount of big contracts are bountiful there so any team looking to reach the floor is not going to be looking to the Devils to fill cap space. They will look for better talent else where. Lets be honest, Brian Rolston isn’t attracting teams that need to reach the floor.
Being a GM doesn’t mean looking at the present season its about looking to the future. If you look at next season the Devils will have 28 million in cap space. So lets say that Parise signs a one year deal for 6.6 million this year, Lou can offer him even more money (if this season’s performance warrants it) and sign him long term and we can be looking at the Parise-Kovalchuk for the next few years. So the changes aren’t now they are next season.
So in summary Lou doesn’t need to make moves. He just needs to sign Parise for a good amount this year to a one year through arbitration and then face lift the team next year when some of the bad contracts expire and the Devils can then focus more on the youth movement and sign maybe a big name defenseman next year. Then when Parise’s contract expires you sign him long term for more money and let him captain this ship.
Even if Lou does nothing now and just leaves the roster the way it is, you know someone on defense is going to get hurt and will probably be placed on IR so Larsson can come up to the line up then.
This is going to be difficult since Larsson (should) be with Skelleftea for 2011-12.
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by John Fischer on Jul 7, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t know that. Not the point of the post.
by brodeurman89 on Jul 8, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You think he’ll be in Sweden instead of Albany. I figured he would be playing with Urbom in Albany.
Also would like to note Larsson and Urbom are two big sweds. I could get used to watching those two.
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Perhaps someone more versed in such things can correct me if I’m wrong because I don’t even know where to begin looking for such information, but I seem to recall reading that the out in Larsson’s SEL contract is only if he plays in the NHL, not the AHL.
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Minor league / prospect swaps only
I see Lou trading some of the prospect Dmen for a couple of quality prospects at forward that aren’t NHL-ready yet. The glut of Dmen has been well-documented on this site, but I think the farm team has a real dearth of scoring forwards that needs to be addressed. Henrique is the only real prospect among Albany’s forwards that has an NHL future. McIntyre was traded for Noreau and Vasyunov is headed to the KHL. Mills, Sestito, and Wiseman don’t look like they’re coming back as they’re all UFAs.
So all that’s left is Henrique and a bunch of likely career AHLers like Steve Zalewski, Matt Anderson, Stephen Gionta, Nathan Perkovich and PL3 and some prospects who have a ways to go to make the big show in Mike Hoeffel, Mike Sislo, Kory Nagy, and JS Berube. I don’t think they even have enough forwards signed to fill out the roster, much less quality players to keep the team competitive. Perhaps they’ll convert Corrente to wing, but Albany needs scoring badly.

























