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Want to Write at In Lou We Trust? Daily Links Poster & Scoring Chance Recorder Wanted

There are 2 openings at ILWT, Adam, not 4.  (Photo by Nick Laham/Getty Images)

My name is John Fischer and I want you - to help here at In Lou We Trust for two specific writing positions.  Let's take a step back first, about the site.

Prior to the 2009 NHL Entry Draft, I added three new writers to the site: Tom Stivali, Matthew Ventolo, and Kevin Sellathamby from this open request for writers last year.   Each have been very good and important in growing the site further from where it was last year.  In Lou We Trust has since soared over the last season despite how poor the 2010-11 season has went.   Of course, there was plenty to discuss and analyze between the horrible first half of the season, the much better second half of the season, the NHL entry draft, and two active offseasons that bookended this past season.   Nevertheless, the difference in traffic is massive as ILWT is now up to 1,691,800 (and growing) visitors, 3,307,125 (and growing) page views, and over 1,600 active members.   It's among the top hockey sites on SBN; and people in some organization called the Devils reads this site regularly.

However, the name of the game isn't necessarily to pile up big numbers, it's to provide some of the best analysis of the team we love, the New Jersey Devils, on the Internet.  The site is very much a labor of love, and content is a priority.  So I need some additional help in putting up more content on a regular basis and I'm looking to you, the readers, to see if you would be interested to help take ILWT to the next level content-wise.

However, I'm looking for two writers that are willing to perform a specific task this time.  One for a daily links poster and another to record scoring chances.  If you're interested at what they are, please continue after the jump.

8/15 Update:  The scoring chance recorder spot has been filled, do not apply for it anymore. Thank you to all who applied for it.

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Regardless of what position you're interested in, here are a few general requirements.

GENERAL REQUIREMENTS

#1) Be a New Jersey Devils fan.   This seems straight forward, but there may be a few who think that they can use this site as a platform for some other endeavor. This is ultimately an analysis & opinion site by fans for fans; so it's required that you are a fan.

#2) Be a registered and non-banned user.    If you haven't registered for ILWT, then please, sign up as soon as you can. It's free, it gives you access to join 300+ other blogs on the SBN network, and add to their respective communities.  If you've been banned, then I don't want to hear from you. After all, if you can't follow the rules, I don't see how you can follow direction on, say, how often to write something.

#3) Write reasoned and write well.  You don't have to be a perfect writer - I'm definitely not - but you will have to take this seriously to a point.  One of the big reasons why ILWT is where it stands is because that the posts are written well enough, arguments are backed up with facts, and the writing is respectful enough to the reader.

#4) Be willing to deal with the community.  Readers aren't afraid to tell you what they think.  I  or the other writers may even disagree with what you write.  Tying into the prior if you present a good argument, then it should hold up; but ideally you should comment with the other users to explain your point further or just to further discussion along.

#5) Be able to communicate easily with the other writers. This seems self-explanatory, but even in these specialized positions, you'll be part of the site.  Occasionally, there may be matters to discuss among all writers or perhaps there's something we want to pass along your way.  

POSITION #1: DAILY LINKS POSTER

The fellow who did this last hasn't been around for a while due to personal matters far more important than posting links to Devils-related stories every morning.  I wish him well and I thank him for what he done. So I need a replacement.   Here's what the position requires.

  • Daily posting of Links - Sure, circumstances come up, but this is a position that requires a strong commitment.  I need someone to post up links to various Devils stories   This will give readers something to discuss before other content comes later in the day. 
  • Able to Research Various Sources - I don't want the post just to be set of links of what Tom Gulitti and Rich Chere put up the day before (though it should include that).  They should include other interesting posts at other Devils blogs, Devils-related content at other news sites or blogs like Puck Daddy or the many others at SBN. 
  • Know How to Embed Links - Because this (for example): http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/fireice/devils_agree_to_terms_with_goaltender_maxime_clermont/ just doesn't look nearly as good as: Gulitti: Devils sign goaltender Maxime Clermont.  If you don't know how to do this, then this position probably isn't for you.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED: Send me an e-mail before August 17 August 19 with the subject title ILWT Writing Position #1 - SBN User Name (you type in your SBN user name instead of "SBN User Name" of course) from the e-mail account that you've registered with.    Don't comment here, don't write a FanPost or FanShot, send me an e-mail.

In this e-mail, explain to me why you would be the best and provide an example of how and when you would do a daily link post.  It can be just a dump of links, or something more like what J.P. does at Japers' Rink with his Caps Clips or the From the Branches posts at Pension Plan Puppets - whatever method you go for is up to you.  Just make a persuasive argument as to why I should pick you.  

If I'm convinced, we'll give you a trial run of doing daily link posts for a few days and if all goes well, the position is yours.   You'll get to be a writer on the site and have your name up on the front page with thousands of Devils fans reading your stuff every day.   It's not much, but I can promise that at least.   If the trial doesn't go well, then it doesn't - no big deal - and we go with someone else.  

POSITION #2: SCORING CHANCE RECORDER & POSTER

As most readers of ILWT know, I'm a big fan of advanced statistics.  I feel they have been a massive improvement in how we evaluate players, providing additional insight into a player's role on a team or how they've performed beyond basic stats. They're not perfect, but they get us closer to a more complete analysis.  This position will take it a step further by counting scoring chances.   This is a big job with the following responsibilities:

  • Understanding Scoring Chances - The best primer I can provide for what is a scoring chance is this post by Derek Zona at the Copper & Blue.  The first step is to grasp and believe in this concept.  If you're not into stats, this may not be for you.
  • Be Able to Watch Games Closely - In order to count chances, you'll need to be able to watch games closely (much more than most fans, in fact) and record who had the scoring chance, when it happened, and who was on the ice when it happened for both teams.  It's a lot of work, but from this data we can get another sense of who's doing well and who's not.
  • Be Able to Do This For Every Game - Recording chances for every game is almost necessary, it's not something you can just do for a few games and be done with it.  It's a constant process with an 82 game season plus playoff games. I repeat, it's a lot of work.   The rewards are worth it just for the analysis, though.
  • Store Data Appropriately - Ideally, after recording all of this data, we can use to come to conclusions like finding out who was generating the most chances or who was on the ice for the most against on a regular basis.   So it's not enough to record it but be able to store and share it.
  • Post Data Regularly - What's the point of collecting data without coming to some conclusion? There are scripts to help out in this regard, but Ideally, the scoring chance data should come out after each game - in the case of games in close succession (back-to-backs), we can stagger the posts, but they do have to be done.

I'm shooting in the dark here, as this position will entail a lot of work for a site that's still very much a past-time more than anything else.  The benefit is that you'll be responsible for advancing the analysis of Devils games and players further than what has been done so far.  You'll also join a growing group of people who have already done this themselves - 7 are named in Derek's post and there's at least an eighth over at Broad Street Hockey.   The conclusions that come from recording scoring chances can be incredibly insightful - like in Derek's summary of the 2011 Stanley Cup Finals series.   Such analysis makes all of the work worth it, I just need someone to do it.   Plus, others will definitely look to your findings for information beyond just Devils fans.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED:  Send me an e-mail before August 23 with the subject title ILWT Writing Position #2 - SBN User Name (you type in your SBN user name instead of "SBN User Name" of course) from the e-mail account that you've registered with.   Don't comment here, don't write a FanPost or FanShot, send me an e-mail.

In this e-mail, explain to me how you would go about doing this (e.g. can you do this every game, how will you view games, etc.), demonstrate that you understand what this position entails, and provide a sample piece of Devils-related analysis.  If the explanation is sufficient, we'll discuss further on the details of recording scoring chances and to get used to it in time for the regular season.

8/15 UPDATE: Do not be interested in this position anymore - it has been filled. Thank you to all who applied for it.

WHAT IF I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS OR I'M NOT INTERESTED IN EITHER POSITION

Well, then please use the comments as an open thread on what you'd like to see at In Lou We Trust in the 2011-12 season.  I make no promises on what can be done, but most suggestions are always welcomed.  (I say most because the rules aren't changing. The fist is still made of iron. So you may want to hold off on suggesting any changes to the site's rules.)   Just as with this post and last year's request for writers, you won't know until you bring it up; so please bring it up.  As usual, thank you for reading.

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With as many active users now using Fanshots regularly to post Non ILWT Devil’s related content I’m not sure you really need the daily links section anymore. That is UNLESS you were looking to take it into the whole Puck Daddy “Puck Headlines” direction with some witty remarks and excerpts leading into the link.

by Zelepukin on Aug 10, 2011 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

This may be the case during the offseason when there isn’t much news. During the season Tibbs would have 20+ links, I don’t think all of those will end up in fanshots.

by C.J. Richey on Aug 10, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea the links post is definitely helpful

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Aug 10, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember Tibbs link posts and if I’m speaking frankly, most of them weren’t worth even mentioning or really any reason for most of them as they were just regurgitating the same press release info. I’m all for constructive curating and bunching relevant and similar content into a paragraph to direct people.

by Zelepukin on Aug 10, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

In order to count chances, you’ll need to be able to watch games closely (much more than most fans, in fact) and record who had the scoring chance, when it happened, and who was on the ice when it happened for both teams.

You only need the first two there, the script takes care of who is on the ice at the time (though it needs to be spot checked against the play by play occasionally).

Just to add to John’s advertisement, recording scoring chances requires you to either have a DVR, NHL Gamecenter, or some other vehicle where you can rewind and slow down action, especially in front of the net scrums. There’s really no way around it.

I’m all for promoting & increasing the amount of people doing this project, so if anyone has concerns or questions, feel free to ask. If not here, I’m available via e-mail (it’s in my SBN profile) or by Twitter (it’s in my signature).

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by George E. Ays on Aug 10, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Devils & Rangers fans coming together in the name of advanced statistics. I have tears in my eyes.

by Zelepukin on Aug 10, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Further proof that advanced stats are tools of the Devil.

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by Tom Stivali on Aug 10, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda makes me want to light a campfire and sing Kumbaya.

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by statusquo on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

More Open Threads to talk about All Things Hockey, although I suppose a Daily Links section could handle some of that.

by Skuba7 on Aug 10, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah- we did talk about using the Daily links thread as an open thread for hockey discussion like some of the other SBN sites do (PPP, BSH, Japers), though it didn’t exactly go anywhere.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 10, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Such a post will be considered an open-hockey post, so we will do that provided someone will apply for the position.

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by John Fischer on Aug 10, 2011 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m not sure, but people might back off the daily links post because you may have to actually post daily. That’s a huge commitment considering stuff happens all the time and sometimes not many news are actually released. Splitting that into two people should probably be considered, (Unless someone dedicates themselves to do the whole thing).

by KovyisLove on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

If there are multiple applicants, this may happen.

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by John Fischer on Aug 10, 2011 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

would think that splitting the scoring chance tracker to multiple people wouldn’t be a bad idea either, as that is certainly a lot of work as well

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Aug 10, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, one does road one does home etc etc.

by KovyisLove on Aug 10, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i’d probably be willing to record scoring chances for 20 games, but certainly not the whole season.

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by Triumph44 on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hesitant on that because it’ll introduce/add scorer bias. The counting is subjective to begin with, I don’t want to add more to the process.

That said, if there’s enough interest – I’ll consider it.

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by John Fischer on Aug 10, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If that does pass then you could also have say the first game of the season and every chance person does their own and then they compare, kinda have a better feel for what is considered a scoring chance.

by KovyisLove on Aug 10, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea in theory, the question is can it work?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 10, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about the other recorders, but I wouldn’t suggest splitting recording. It’s sometimes hard enough to convince yourself whether or not a shot is a chance, I’d hate to think about the discrepancies between two different recorders.

That said, the support by the more experienced recorders is excellent. Per game it ended up taking me 1.5 hours, about 1 hour to watch and the rest to write up a short post. I’m not a great writer, so I tend just to describe how the chances during the game went, and whether there were any exceptionally interesting plays.

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by ToddtheFox on Aug 11, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have done a lot for the fans. I think you deserve an interview with Lou.

by tigger on Aug 10, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be extremely interesting for John, but not for us as 100% of the answers would be Status Quo.

by KovyisLove on Aug 10, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure would be interesting to see if Lou can come up with new ways of saying “No Comment”.

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by statusquo on Aug 10, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least give the man somebody like DeBoer to interview.

by tigger on Aug 10, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

New year: less hating on new members

There are many different levels of fans that can enjoy inlouwetrust… I’ve been here for a couple years but for the next year I’d like at least a consideration on protocal for new posters… I’ve seen a ton of new posts by new members, as John said the site’s growing, and the standard follow up to almost every new post is a bunch of the more veteran posters criticizing whoever did the fanpost, or leaving page long comments just ripping apart a person whose just trying to reach out and talk Devils.

Now I agree they may say dumb things, or may have the wrong outlook on something from time to time, but I really enjoy this site and I want them to feel the same way… I know that sports debate is what makes this site fun and flourish, so lets welcome them in, and grow their knowledge on a subject they may not be an expert in

Sometimes when it turns into a big boys club and people try to muscle you out of some conversations it can be a major turn off…

Thanks for the consideration john!

by 5th Shift on Aug 10, 2011 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Personally i’ll only criticize if someone says something dumb- it’s usually the people who make dumb comments and/or fanposts that get grilled.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 10, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

^this

Part of what makes this site attractive is that despite the veil of anonymity afforded by the internet, people are held accountable for what they say.

If they say something dumb they’re taken to task for it. If they put forth an opinion, any opinion, they’re expected to back it up. If they post something full of logical fallacies, especially on a topic that’s been done to death already, they’re likely to get rebutted. And if they post something ignorant they’re going to be universally panned.

It’s not done to dissuade posting or scare off new members, but rather to encourage any future posts to be better thought out and to maintain the quality of conversation at a level something higher than most other places.

If that does dissuade their posting or scares them off, that’s their problem. Since the site is indeed growing and maintains a strong, loyal group of long-time posters, it seems to me that the means of weeding out the trolls and the ignorant are justified.

by elesias on Aug 11, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the problem is people abuse the FanPost option. Most of the time, the topic being presented has already been covered in other posts, and adds nothing new. I would site some examples, but I don’t feel like putting forth the effort. I’m mainly referring to stuff like “PLZ LOU TRADE ROLSTON” or “WHAT ABOUT THESE LINES.” Yes, people use caps lock, too.

I’ve been reading the blog for a little while, and only started posting last season. I think new members need to get acclimated to how things are by just responding to main posts (Game threads, Game recaps, and other articles that are posted by John/Matt/Kevin/Tom).

FanPosts should be reserved for articles that attempt to provide some real insight, not just random opinions. One that comes to mind was a post last season about Kovalchuk’s goals for the last few years, and where they came from, and who assisted.

I don’t believe there’s “hate” towards new posters. Add something useful on FanPosts. You can provide your opinion in other ways.

by dasru on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I used “hating” more in the context of disagree or shooing away there opinions more then anything. Just thought I’d speak up for the little guy… I’m sure with however many million people reading and only a few commenting there are other ways to get even more people involved. That’s really the point I was going for, I agree with annoying fanpost and maybe even weeding out the trolls and the ignorant as elesias said… to an extent. Just wanted to throw out a suggestion for whoever to take to heart in whatever way they wanted… i donno if you guys have noticed but sometimes there are some awefully dumb spin off debates on the most meaningless topics imaginable, so many times I think its less for the betterment of the site but rather simply to show some other anonymous person how much more knowledgable you are then them… thats what I can’t stand, thats whats at the heart of my point… what you guys said above is perfectly logical and reasonable

by 5th Shift on Aug 11, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

sometimes people go for shock value or just say dumb things I agree haha, you can usually tell when someones new though

by 5th Shift on Aug 10, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Question about the daily links position:

How strict is the “daily” post rule? There are days (the past few days come to mind), where there are little to no activity. Obviously during the season there’s a lot to talk about, but there may be days where nothing new is worth posting.

by dasru on Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, this explains why I’m looking for a position now – in preparation for a busy preseason and the season proper.

As news dries up in the summer, I’ll likely relax the requirement for daily posting. But from September through mid-July, there’s always something out there.

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by John Fischer on Aug 10, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Is this post really saying that they are seeking two people to count scoring chances or embed other peoples posts but not have an opinion?

by pepe22 on Aug 11, 2011 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t see any reference or requirement of not having an opinion on either of these posts.

by dasru on Aug 11, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Just that the position isn’t for an open-ended writer, where they can write about whatever Devils-related as I’m looking to fill two specific needs. The scoring chance recorder or the links poster will have free reign to include their own thoughts as it fits their posts.

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by John Fischer on Aug 11, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m treasurer of a local civic organization so I already have a non-paying job. But feel free to keep me in mind if a paying gig comes up!

by Bobby V on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

John, I am interested in doing 1 or 2. I can do both of them if u want

by ALECDK on Aug 13, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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