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2011-2012 New Jersey Devils Season Preview Part 1-The Forwards

Devils fans have been told the last few years that youth movement was imminent.  It was usually either when a popular free agent left (Brian Gionta, John Madden) or when training camp approached that the media was told that the team would be integrating more youth on the roster. Among the forward unit, this is the year that the long awaited youth movement will take place.  Let me rephrase a bit.  It must take place.

With openings in the top lines at right wing and center, the opportunity is there for some of the younger players to solidify themselves as major contributors to the team. Former first round picks Jacob Josefson and Mattias Tedenby along with Nick Palmieri will be the first in line to have a chance to step up and replace the production of departed veterans like Jamie Langenbrunner, Brian Rolston and Jason Arnott

The three will not be thrown into the fire though as all logged significant time with the NHL club last year.  (Last year Tedenby played 58 games, Josefson played 28 games and Palmieri played 43.)  Now they must prove that they have utilized last year's time wisely and deserve to be on the NHL roster in a top six type of role playing heavy minutes.

And they are needed. Ilya Kovalchuk, Zach Parise, Travis Zajac (when healthy) and Patrik Elias are all really good players, but they need help. Not help in the 'we need an elite center for Kovy' way. Help in the secondary and tertiery even strength scoring way. 

After the jump I will look at the even strength scoring from Devils forwards last year, try to project even strength scoring from the current crop of forwards in 2011-12, speculate on the depth chart and line combinations and further emphasize the importance the role that the young forwards will play on this team.  As part 5 of the season preview will focus on special teams play, I will focus my preview on even strength play.

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Comings and Goings:

First let's look at who came and went in the past year....

Who's Out: Jamie Langenbrunner and Jason Arnott who both were projected top six forwards on the 2010-11 team. Langenbrunner was traded to the Dallas Stars in January for a third round pick (Blake Coleman) and Arnott was dealt to Washington for a second round pick in 2012 and center David Steckel. PL3 was banished to Albany after the second game of the season for instigating a fight in the last five minutes of a game, and dealt to Calgary for a fifth round pick in 2012. Adam Mair who came to camp last year on a try out basis has accepted an invitation to try out with the Philadelphia Flyers and will not return. Veteran forward Brian Rolston had sports hernia surgery, was sent through waivers/re-entry waivers and didn't really find his groove until Langenbrunner was dealt and Lemaire showed some confidence in him. He was dealt to the Islanders in a salary dump deal over the summer.

Together, the group above accounted for 24 even strength goals along with about 26 minutes of ice time per game in second or third line situation. 

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Is this production replaceable?  You betcha.  Whether it's a resurgent David Clarkson, or younger players stepping forward, the players who are now gone from the opening day roster of last year won't be missed on the ice.

Who's In: In a puzzling move to most Devils fans, former Thrasher Eric Boulton was added to the roster on a two year deal. Management obviously felt that some toughness was needed on the roster.

That signing was followed up with the addition of former Devil Cam Janssen who would appear to be a signing more geared for the Albany team. Signing a one year/two way deal (although he is waiver eligible) signals that unless there are some camp injuries, Janssen likely starts the year in the minors and I won't say anything more about him in this preview.

Even Strength Scoring Woes:

One of the keys to get back into the playoffs this year will be increasing the production level of their even strength scoring. 

Last year the Devils scored a total of 174 goals with 137 of those being at even strength. They ranked dead last in the league in even strength goals. They were 33 below the league average of 170 and as you can see from the chart below if you hit the league average, you were more than likely to make the playoffs.  Only one eastern conference team (Candiens, 154 ES goals) made the playoffs scoring less than the league average. 

The 137 goals for a team even without Zach Parise was the result of a dreadful start of the year, questionable coaching and a lot of bad luck. 

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*Denotes a playoff team

Taking it a small step further and adjusting for the scoring by defensemen, the Devils forwards scored 122 goals.  I think the Devils will dramatically improve on that production this season, because it would be insane to think that the collective talent they have won't fare better at even-strength, but more on that later.  Looking at the individual performances of the Devils forwards last year, a few things jumped out at me. 

First, star players like Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk had significantly lower shooting percentages at even strength play than they have ever before.  Roughly 20%-25% lower than their career averages. Second, David Clarkson should be due for a rebound.  He can't shoot that awfully bad again, even if he does fall down every other shift.  Third, the Devils dominated at puck possession.  Look at the offensive zone starts for each forward.  The only Devils with offensive zone (OZone) percentages were David Clarkson and Rod Pelley, and both were barely under 50%.  Fourth, some of the save percentages experienced when a forward was on the ice were not indicative of a player’s ability to help out on the defensive side of things. 

Travis Zajac had one of the better ES SV% out of forwards last year but that was poor compared to his rates of .935 and .927 the previous years.  Even Ilya Kovalchuk was below his career averages when it came to ES SV%. 

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Perhaps the Devils haven't had the quality of shots or scoring chance opportunities that one would think a team should have while dominating puck possession as they did much of last season. While we can't go back and look at every game last year to determine this, thankfully ILWT will be tracking scoring chances this year which will help all of us better understand whether or not the Devils dominating puck possession translates to realistic scoring opportunities. 

That project aside, Ilya Kovalchuk and Zach Parise (if healthy) should return to their previous career averages when shooting the puck at even strength. That alone makes the Devils so much more dangerous of a team.

Lineup/Depth Chart:

With Zajac's injury and camp just underway it is hard to get a sense of what DeBoer will do with his line combinations. Let's look at the groups of players he has available:

Zach Parise-Jacob Josefson-Danius Zubrus

Ilya Kovalchuk-Patrik Elias--Nick Palmieri

Mattias Tedenby-David Steckel-David Clarkson

Eric Boulton-Rod Pelley-Vladimir Zharkov/Steve Bernier

Full disclosure:  I hate putting together line combinations.  I think overall it's an effort in futility because lines change on the fly based on coach's decisions, matchups, injuries, etc.  One of my favorite lines of the past couple of years has been a Parise/Zajac/Zubrus combination.  Does it work against some teams? Yes.  Does it work against all teams?  No. 

I prefer to break down the depth of the Devils forward like this:

Top Line/Second Line Players: Ilya Kovalchuk, Patrik Elias, Zach Parise, Injured: Travis Zajac

Second Line/Third Line Players: Nick Palmieri, Mattias Tedenby, Jacob Josefson, Danius Zubrus, David Clarkson,

Third Line/Fourth Line Players: Vladimir Zharkov,David Steckel, Eric Boulton, Rod Pelley, Steve Bernier

Callups/AHL Players:  Adam Henrique, Mike Hoeffel, Stephen Velliuex, Steve Zalewski, Tim Sestito, Cam Janssen

To me, this makes more sense.  Kovalchuk, Parise, Elias and Zajac are your best guys. Simple as that. Other players will float in and out of the top lines with those players based upon the situation.   Pigeon holing players into firm lines now is a guess and is best served for HF Board Discussion.

With Zajac out for the first few months of the season it will be imperative for Josefson, Tedenby, Zubrus and Palmieri to contribute on both even strength and special teams in order to make up for his absence.

While Lou Lamoriello has recently raved about Adam Henrique and how he is a top prospect, I don't see him making the opening night team unless he has an amazing camp or there is another injury to a forward.  I see him starting in Albany and possibly appearing in New Jersey after at least 1/4 of the season. After his 25 goal effort in Albany last year bringing Henrique up sounds like the right thing to do, but I don't see him getting the right ice-time in order to make a promotion to the NHL the right approach.   In fact, I could see Mike Hoeffel having more an impact at the NHL level than Henrique does.

Note:  I am not considering Petr Sykora as a possibility for the roster. The nostaligic part of me would love for it to happen but the practical part of me realizes that it is highly unlikely.

2012 Scoring Projections:

Based upon the data I saw from last year, I am very bullish in my predictions below. While I might have undersold the possible production of Kovalchuk and Parise, I conversely might have overestimated the contribution Palmieri, Josefson, Tedenby and Clarkson will make. Zajac's prediction does take into account his injury and I think his past shows last year's goal scoring production was a blip on the radar screen. Perhaps age catches up to Elias and Zubrus dropping their production a bit.

Overall I believe the Devils forwards will contribute at least 35 more even strength goals than they did last year. I think you can make an argument that a healthy Parise would do that on his own, but I was conservative in his prediction and utilized his 2007-08 and 2008-09 numbers as a gauge on what his production might be.

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Again I think 35 is a conservative number. If luck breaks in their favor could we see 50? I can see it. Whether it is 20, 40, or 50 they will score more even strength goals than last season. There is too much top-end talent to not do so. You may quibble with a goal here or there but none of my predictions are that bold, as they fall in line with past player performance and in the case of the younger players the talents they have briefly flashed and what should be expected of them.

I will predict though that if the forwards score at least 30 more even strength goals, the Devils will be in the playoffs. Easily.

For a fun little exercise I looked at the full season projections for some key Devils based upon games played in January, February, March and April of last season.   The four players below would have generated about 34 more even strength goals over an 82 game season if we had utilized statistics from Lemaire's time as coach.   

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Just an example of how easy it will be for the Devils forwards to eclipse their production of last season.

Of course increased production of forward scoring will be helped by the continued development of younger players.  I believe both Nick Palmieri and Mattias Tedenby can take that next step and in a full regular season score in the high teens for goals.  Both their pasts say they can, and from what we saw last year I don't have any trepidation in saying they both have a nose for the net and if given adequate ice-time can reach that mark in their first full season with the Devils.

X-Factor: Jacob Josefson

His basic numbers last year (3-7-10 in 28 games) don't jump out at you. But his on-ice play and some more detailed stats paint a very optimistic picture on his future.  Josefson, 19 years old for most of last season, missed a large chunk of time last year due to torn thumb ligaments.  When he returned he played 17 games in Albany scoring 3 goals and 9 assists before being recalled by the NHL team in mid-February.  And watching those Albany games, you can tell he was a step above the rest of his teammates and the competition.  He played like a poised veteran, and often reminded me of Patrik Elias, specifically how he directed the even-strength and power play offense from the sideboards.

Remember, he was 19 (turned 20 in early March) last year.  An age where unless you are an elite player (or drafted like one) you are likely to be in Major Junior or the AHL.  I was curious to see other players (and focused on centers) who made their debut in abbreviated fashion (40 games or less) at around age 19 or 20.  A handful of players came back when I researched this on Hockey-Reference.com.  To further the search I also looked at 19 year old players making their debut in the NHL and didn't set a limit to how many games they played.

The players I think Josefson's initial season compare best with are listed below. (Players include Logan Couture, Tyler Ennie, Oscar Moeller, Josh Bailey & Phil Kessel)  It's tough doing something like this from the perspective of "I hope he is better than Josh Bailey or I hope he does not go back to the SEL like Moller did" but based upon the advanced numbers, age, even strength time-on-ice and points per game. 

 

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(If this table is tough to view in the article, just clik on it for a better quality image)

What will partly define Josefson's second year is how he fares against tougher competition on the ice. He wasn't thrown up against the tougher opposing players (and in his defense he was not given the best teammates) when this year he likely will be going up against the opposition's top 6 forwards and top 4 defenders.  Compared to the some of the players above his CORSI related stats don't impress, but I was impressed with how well the team did on the ice (.943 ES save %) even though he didn't have great teammates out there with him. 

Comparisons are comparisons, not predictions. Comparisons help provide context and guidance. I don't think Josefson will have 36 goals this year like Logan Couture but I also don't think he will be a defensive liability like Josh Bailey.  With only 28 games in the NHL his career can go in a variety of ways.  But based on what we have seen at the NHL and AHL level, I think his second season sees the progression to a Phil Kessel type season, scoring about 40-45 points on the season.

Also, let me leave you with this: Remember what former coach Lemaire said about him at various points last year:

"This kid has it. There's no doubt," Lemaire said. "He just turned 20 a couple days ago and he's a good player right now. If you look at his stats, his stats are not that great. But as a hockey player you want him on your team."

 "I think it's how he understands the game, where he goes on the ice," Lemaire said. "When he doesn't have the puck, what is he going to do? When he has the puck, what he's doing with the puck. He's quick, strong, he's got good hands. He sees the ice well. So he has a lot of qualities.

Lemaire was right his stats weren't that great last year.  They might not be great this year.  But a 40-45 point season from Jacob Josefson I think is a realistic and attainable goal.  A season like that will help replace some of the production of Travis Zajac as he recovers from injury, and give the Devils another offensive weapon beyond the big four of Kovalchuk, Elias, Parise and Zajac.

Random Predictions For The Season:

Zach Parise inks a new deal in early January making him a Devil long-term. This angers fans of certain teams on the west coast so much that they write 37 articles-in a row-about how they never really wanted him anyway.

We see a return to form for David Clarkson, seeing the guy Lou Lamoriello gave a contract valued at $2.6MM per year.

Mike Hoeffel plays in more NHL games and scores more NHL goals than Adam Henrique does this year.

Steve Zalewski plays some fourth line time with the club, grinding out some goals.

Steve Bernier makes the club, pushing Rod Pelley to a bench role. His presence also helps light a fire under David Clarkson and Vladimir Zharkov.

By the end of the season, the Jacob Josefson jersey is a much more prominent one among fans at the Rock.

Final Thoughts:

This is a talented group of forwards.  Starting with Parise, Kovalchuk, Elias and Zajac at the top and adding youth and grit to supplement them, I am excited about the group that the Devils have this year. Even strength scoring will improve, it has to.  Statistically and logically.  If all the other scoring output (defensemen, special teams) remains the same from last year than the increased scoring responsibility will be shifted to the Devils forwards, a task I think they will handle well.

Thanks for reading and sound off below!

Note: Tables/statistics generated from Hockey-Reference.com, hockeydb.com, eliteprospects.com and behindthenet.ca

 

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Camp becomes a lot more fun with some battles and performances.

If Sykora keeps this up, you’re gonna have to tweak your projections.

The Hoeffel predicition is a bold one sir. Well played.

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by Murdoc on Sep 19, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Hoeffel plays in more NHL games and scores more NHL goals than Adam Henrique does this year.

would bet very heavily against this one. i think wiseman, now that his contract is a 105k, would be called up before hoeffel.

nice outlook. i don’t think you took injuries into account (did you?) with your projections, but i can’t really disagree with many besides nick palmieri, who will only score 16 ES goals if he plays a top 6 role all year.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I did take injuries into account as much as I could. Mainly the minor nagging ones. Can’t predict a season ender. I think Nick sticks around top 6 this year, he produced when there.

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by Tom Stivali on Sep 19, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but you’re assuming that he will continue to produce. all nick really brings is goal scoring. if his shooting percentage dips, he will start to go through large slumps, which will make the coach think differently about his top six role.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you, & both Palmieri & Tebendy scares me a bit for this year… Just a thought.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Sep 19, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

… If Palmieri spent an entire season with Elias or Zajac, I guarantee he would be a 20 goal scorer. They are set up men, he’s the finisher.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Sep 19, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Travis injury, we’ll know soon enough what Josefson is made of, that won’t be easy at the beginning but I think he’s ready to center Kovalchuk already. I’ve got high expectations for Josefson, in a few years, he’ll be a great play-maker.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Did I catch a Clerks reference with the “37 articles – in a row -” comment? If so, well done sir.

I really appreciate the fact that you didn’t include Sykora in your predictions. As much as I liked Sykora back in the days of the S-E-A line, I think it’s time to stop bringing back old veterans of the club just because their names are familiar. Look what happened with Rolston, Holik, and Shanahan (and even Johnny Mac, if you want to include him, although that’s a different situation). Their production doesn’t even come close to those they put up in their younger years. While this is to be expected, I don’t think it’s worth it just to bring someone back for the name on their jersey rather than the good they’ll do for the team. We’ve been burned by returning alumni before, and I’m hoping to avoid it this time.

by JerseyDevl on Sep 19, 2011 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Well…it is NJ. Well done indeed.

As much as I hate it that the Organization continues to bring back the old vets, I have no problem bringing a guy back if he proves he can play. In one scrimmage, a 34 year old who’s been out of the NHL for a couple years scores 3 goals playing center against a legitmate NHL goalie, not a Junior tender, minor leaguer, etc. Should it matter that he was a Devil a couple few years ago? If he keeps it up for the course of a camp, it will be very hard to deny the guy a spot on the club; he’d have earned it at that point. Would it be smart for any organization to deny a guy who’s put on that kind of show in camp, and has NHL experience?

If his name was John Madden and he walked into camp with a one-way deal, I’d be pissed. But he’s not. He’s fighting for a job out there, no gaurantees, and he’s found a guy in Zubrus that he plays very with, and is bringing his best game so far. Two days into training camp, but he came ready to play.

I think they’re going to give hoim a legit shot at making the club. They’re going to get him into some preseason games and see how he takes a full speed hit and plays against guys who aren’t his teammates. I’m going to enjoy watching him, that’s for sure.

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by Murdoc on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of the players you mentioned, only Rolston was expected to be a top 6 forward. Holik was signed as a 4th line player, and Shanahan was signed to be a 3rd liner. Shanahan was horrendous (I can’t believe, in retrospect, that he got another contract after that season), and Holik took too many penalties, but what does that have to do with Sykora? If Sykora can play well, he should make the team, if not, then he shouldn’t. It’s not nostalgia driving this decision.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why was Shanahan horrendous… He wasn’t bad for a pick up player.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Sep 19, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was basically brought in to help the powerplay and he didn’t really help it at all.

by dkball7 on Sep 19, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

this, and he was just outright bad at even strength.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing about Sykora

Is he is only 34 years old not a 37 year old rolston or a 39 year old shanahan if he proves he still has it in camp he should play along side patrik. Im actually more excited to see them reunite then i was about patty-arnott last year

by NJDevils30 on Sep 19, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

plus if he sucks he can always be demoted to Albany- although that’s not much a problem considering he’ll probably be making $525K this year anyways

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Sep 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sykora had a hat trick playing with Zubes and Veillleux today, playing as a C.
If he plays anything like that during a preseason game, he’ll have a contract. He’s one of my favorite Devils ever, and if he’s still got that shot I’d love if he made it.
Also, Kovy – JJ – Clarkie is interesting, as is Parise – Elias – Bernier.

by skly27 on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

And the goals were against Hedberg too.

by skly27 on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hedberg may have been the goalie, but who was on the ice against him? Was he facing AHL forwards and defenseman or was it against NHL players? These are the details we need to know before we start the welcome back party.

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by slackdog_rm on Sep 19, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was facing Kovy so it’s LHJMQ defense

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Sep 19, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the devils put up the first period video on their site here. the first goal by sykora was weak – he was on ice against fraser/greene/tedenby/henrique/palmieri, but he was outside the circles and no one was really driving the net – i am pretty sure this would not be called a scoring chance.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

the goal is at around 7 minutes in the video

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was right at the top of the circle if not inside it. Not Just outside. The goal is at 8:40 of the video.

Goalie probably should of had it.

About scoring chances. This is exactly why the stat is BS.
Was it top of the circle? or Just outside?

by NJDOhio on Sep 19, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh. no, that’s precisely the point, the goalie played it very poorly, and it was outside the dot, but not the circle. not a scoring chance.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know… THat looked like a decent chance, goalie should have had it but it still went of the pipe, hell of a shot.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Sep 19, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the point of the scoring chances project is not to evaluate shots, but where shots are taken. someone can make a great shot from the point or from the perimeter, but it’s very very difficult to do so with regularity.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he was 5 feet closer right on the dot or to the left a bit it would have been a scoring chance?

What if the D-Man failed on the play gave him the room to wind up and let one rip at 90mph? Not a scoring chance?

Dunno. Not buying it.

by NJDOhio on Sep 19, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he was inside the dot, yes, it would have been a scoring chance. he wasn’t, so it wasn’t. this isn’t rocket science. that doesn’t mean that goals can’t go in from outside that area.

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by Triumph44 on Sep 19, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that is exactly why it is bs.

by NJDOhio on Sep 20, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not buying it?

Maybe you should see his other two goals which were scored in very similar fashion, the guy can still rip it. Give him a shot.

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by Goblechuk on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You missed something Goblechuk. Was not what I was referencing.

by NJDOhio on Sep 20, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was I starting the party? I merely said if he looks as good or has the impact he did today in a few preseason games, he’ll probably be on the team. Which is about the safest statement I could make.

by skly27 on Sep 19, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think your ES scoring predictions are pretty spot on. For comparison I added up Hockeyprospectus’ VUKOTA projections for the Devils forwards (including ES, PP, and SHG), and it looks pretty similar to what you put up, minus the special teams scoring of course. I had to juggle some numbers around due to low games played projections and the lack of VUKOTA knowing about Zajac’s injury, but I came up with the Devils forwards scoring about 190-195 goals this year. I think that’s definitely fair considering Parise and Kovalchuk are projected pretty low for their standards. Assuming they both score 35+, 210-215 goals from the forwards is certainly within this team’s reach.

by dkball7 on Sep 19, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I look at it this way. Parise and Kovy should/have to score 40 goals each to be worth what they are being paid. Patty should give you atleast 20. That’s 100 goals from 3 guys. I think it is reasonable to think the other 17 skaters on the roster should be able to chip in 100 to get the team to a total of 200 goals for the year.

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by slackdog_rm on Sep 19, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, I think Palmieri, Clarky, and Bernier have good years this year and each get 10 – 20 goals this year. I think you can put them on the right wing of the top 3 lines and let them bang and work in the corners and crash the crease for rebounds and deflections and do all the dirty work that this team needs to have done while allowing the skill guys like Kovy, Parise, Tedenby, Elias, Josefson, Zubrus, and Zajac (when healthy) to work the puck around and generate alot of scoring chances.

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by slackdog_rm on Sep 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

200 goals aren’t nearly enough. They will need to be in the 240- 260 Range.

by NJDOhio on Sep 19, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regression to the norm

Your predictions on goal production would be right on if we looked at nothing but this. Didn’t we have the lowest shooting % in the league last year and the lowest % of any Devils team in the last 10 years? Leaving luck out of it, if we just regress to average we will be significantly more productive. Now if we could just add luck to this….

by DevilsDDS on Sep 20, 2011 7:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’m excited by Palmieri. I think he showed some great potential last season, and had a few flashy plays that really surprised me. He always seems to be in the right place at the right time, and I think this year is going to be huge for him. He’s got great hands, good speed, and a knack for scoring. He was brilliant from behind the net last season, too. He never gave up on a play, and there were a few times where that tenacity turned a dead play into a goal. Look for him to have a breakout year.

by JerseyDevl on Sep 20, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a GREAT write up

Thanks very much for this Tom. I never use caps when I write, but I think this article warrants them.

I particularly like how you segmented players into “first/second line,” “second/third line,” etc. What a great way to do it! It’s a perfect way to avoid the pitfalls of making up lines. Really, I can’t say enough about what a great idea it is.

One quibble: how could you place Clarkson in the second/third line section? Not only was he an adequate-at-best fourth liner last season; he has also never played a consistent second line role. Even at his best, he was never a second liner. At the most, he should be in the third/fourth section because, even if you predict a return to form, that form only conferred a third liner status.

by Dr. Witticism on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Dr. Appreciate that. The segmenting just works better for me. Is Nick Palmieri a first line player? No. Can he play on the first line? Sure.

Certainly valid points on Clarkson. Looking at the list again, I can certainly see me doing it and putting Clarkson in that bottom group. That said, right now Clarkson gets that middle tier to me because I think of him more highly than the Steckels/Boultons of the world. Clarky is probably on the low end of that tier. Plus I think he has a bounce back year.

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by Tom Stivali on Sep 20, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

One with you, this is great stuff. Apologies to Tom I forgot to mention it… But the rec. is well deserved.

Thanks again.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Sep 20, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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