New Jersey Devils Edged by Philadelphia Flyers 2-1
Don't let the score fool you. It could have been a lot worse for the New Jersey Devils tonight. The Flyers hit the post at least 3 times on open shots. The Flyers had several offensive opportunities from two-on-ones both from rushing into the zone on a counter-attack and make-shift two-on-ones because a Devil took himself out of the play. Not to mention the Devils handed Philadelphia four power plays. If Philadelphia had some better luck and if Martin Brodeur wasn't as solid as he was, the Flyers could have blown this game wide open.
Alas, the Flyers didn't need to do so. They converted on two of their four power plays. The fine play of their goaltenders, Ilya Bryzgalov in the first half of the game and Sergei Bobrovsky in the second half, kept the Devils out of it. While the Devils out-shot the Flyers 31-27 in the game and were out-shooting them for much of the game when it was tied. It wasn't that the Devils had no attack, the goalies did their job as well as they could. Philly also had their blocking skates on, stuffing at least 16 of the Devils' shots. A broken play yielded their one goal.
It's understandable that fans are concerned about the Devils now. While the games don't ultimately matter, the team's 1-3 and they seemed to play worse as tonight's game went on. Whereas they looked good in the first, the turnovers and bad decisions propagated during the second and third periods. Clearly, some players didn't play their best tonight; but as time went on, even the players that seemed to be having good games had some poor moments. That, I think, is more disconcerting than the fact that the Devils lost tonight what with the preseason coming to a close.
But, again, it's preseason. These games really don't matter. If there's a time to have an unideal night, then it's now. If there's a time to review what went wrong and try and fix it, it's now. Unfortunately, the Devils won't get much of a chance to reflect on tonight's performance as they'll host the Islanders tomorrow night. Still, let's go through tonight's game in a little more detail after the jump.
The Highlight Video: Yes, there is a highlight video of tonight's game from NHL.com. You will see plenty of saves by all three goaltenders; indicative of their strong play. Also, as indicated by the scoreline, you'll see a few goals.
Discipline, Men. Discipline: One of the hallmarks of the New Jersey Devils is that they don't take a lot of penalties over the course of a season. They also don't draw too many either. However, this doesn't mean they don't have games where they take a few too many dumb ones. Tonight was one of them.
As mentioned prior to the jump, the Devils gifted Philly four power plays. The first two were extra roughing minors tacked onto a fighting major; the first was for Stephane Veilleux and the second for Brad Mills. Usually, the ref does this if they feel the penalized person was too rough (namely, they started the fight first) leading to the fight. They're not good penalties to take and the fights, as usual, were pointless. (Aside: I know what Mills said after the game per this post by Tom Gulitti. It was still a dumb move and the ref let him know about it. Watch as Mills doesn't learn from it.) Mills' roughing minor became important as the Flyers scored on the resulting power play.
The other two were interference calls. Mills got caught being a little too late in a body check at the blueline right in front of the ref early in the third period. Zach Parise, of all Devils, got the other past halfway through the third. He was skating across the slot and bumped Sergei Bobrovsky. Parise didn't run the goalie, but he could have avoided him. The ref is going to call that contact most of the time, and he certainly did. The Flyers then scored on that power play, which ultimately won the game.
Had the Devils taken the hint about the refs looking for any pre-fight fighting or remembered that you can't hit goalies, perhaps this game goes on differently. I'm confident the Devils will do better in the future. Parise's not going to rack up the PIMs and I doubt Mills or Veilleux are on the team past Saturday anyway.
Tallinder's Whiff: The first goal for Philadelphia was scored by Wayne Simmonds. Simmonds may not be getting any awards for tolerance or humanitarianism, but he did play quite well tonight. He swooped into the slot and banged home a rebound to tie the game in the second period for Philly. It never would have happened if it wasn't for Tallinder, though. Well, to be honest, it never would have happened if it wasn't Mills needing to fight Zac Rinaldo for some reason so he goaded him with his fists.
Anyway. Brodeur stopped a shot by Claude Giroux and, thanks to physics, the puck rebounded into the slot. No big deal, #7 was right there to clear it out. Tallinder swung with his stick and he missed it. A second later, Simmonds has it and he slides it past Brodeur's left side. There's not much a goalie can do about it, and I wouldn't even call it a failure on the PK. It was just an "oops" by one defender that the cost the Devils.
Tonight was not one of Tallinder's better nights. I like how he did in the first period alongside Mark Fayne. Yet, as the night wore on, he got beaten one-on-one a few times - most notably by Jaromir Jagr; he was behind the play on others; and he seemed to be chasing guys more than being in a proper position. I'm confident he'll rebound, but the big man just struggled on several of his shifts tonight.
Tryouts to Be Out Soon: All three try-out players on the roster played tonight. Steve Bernier didn't do too much. He wasn't particularly bad, which I suppose is a positive in of itself. He didn't really contribute all that much either outside of a scrum that led to the Devils' lone goal of the evening and a couple of shots on net. I did notice some brief PK time from him, where upon he stayed poised. Unless Peter DeBoer sees something in him that I haven't, I'm not confident in his chances in making the team.
Petr Sykora rolled with Zach Parise and Patrik Elias tonight. That line wasn't too bad, but Parise and Elias really drove the bus on that line. Sykora was just along for the ride. I didn't think much of his defense, something the Devils forwards had to do a lot of for stretches in this game; and he seemed to be a bit slower than most of the other skaters. I think he'll get another game, but if this was his chance to show he deserves a contract, then I don't think he really took full advantage.
Anton Stralman's tryout may be coming to an end and I'm quickly accepting that fate. I liked him in the first period at the point. However, he got exposed in his own end. At first, I thought his low light was his attempted hit he threw (and missed) that left Bryce Salvador all alone to deal with two Flyers - requiring a ten-bell save from Brodeur. I know Stralman doesn't have eyes in the back of his head, but he's smart enough to know he's in trouble if he didn't get that hit home, which he didn't. Then he was caught in the slot with his stick not on the ice as Jaromir Jagr scored the game winning power play goal on Brodeur's left flank. Granted, Claude Giroux threaded a pass perfectly to Jagr; but Stralman showed no interest in doing anything about the pass. I can forgive him for not knowing Jagr's not there, but he can't be puck watching on the PK. Again, not a PK issue - but an "oops." I know these are two plays, but they were symbolic of his defensive woes. The offense he's sort of bringing to the table isn't going to make up for that, in my view. I think he's done in NJ, but I've been wrong before.
I May Be Wrong About Larsson: I've argued that Adam Larsson should go back to his club team in Sweden where he can develop for a year as one of their top defensemen. That's not happening. I've also argued that if he does stay in North America, he should remain in Albany if only not to burn his ELC and let him develop at his own pace. That's in doubt right now. I'm starting to think that he could be on this team to at least start the season. He wasn't fantastic, but he held his own against some tough Flyer forwards and he was quite poised on the point both at even strength and on the power play. I still don't want that ELC to be burned, so I'll still argue otherwise; but Larsson's play has been acceptable to say the least.
The Best Devils Skater Tonight: I want to say it's Andy Greene. He looked like he did last season. Hustling on plays, getting into position, and making defensive stops when possible. I felt the Greene-Larsson pairing, while they got a lot of work, didn't get blown up tonight. Yet, true to what I said earlier, even he had some off moments. For example, he came in on a pinch in the third period and fired a puck to the net. It ricocheted out and placed it perfectly for a Flyers two-on-one counter-attack. Oops. But it's not as if Greene did anything wrong per se, he just took a risk and it didn't work out. Thankfully, the post bailed out the Devils.
The Best Devil Tonight: Martin Brodeur. OK, the Devils can give an honorable mention to the firm of Post, Post & Crossbar as well as pucks fortunately bouncing off Matt Read's stick. Yet, Brodeur was on his game tonight. He made several "How did he keep that out of the net" saves. His glove hand was strong, and his lateral movement was swift. He had no chance on the two goals allowed, and they could have been prevented either by better discipline from the players or the defender near him doing something better (Tallinder's whiff) or anything (Stralman standing). Brodeur is 39 and this game showed me that he'll be quite fine.
Forwards Not Looking Ahead: I can't really say the offense was truly poor. They did out-shoot the Flyers throughout the game and they did put a considerable amount of rubber on Bryzgalov and Bobrovsky. Ilya Kovalchuk had (at least) 5 good locations to shoot and the goalies came up big on each of them. Zach Parise buzzed around the net as usual and put up 4 shots on net. The team's second power play was good from a possession standpoint, though it didn't convert. Stephane Veilleux got a garbage goal and drew both power plays.
Yet, I can't even fully praise the forwards. Kovalchuk had some nasty turnovers and he could have done a little better in the one-on-ones with the goalie. Parise's buzzing became too few and far between as the night rolled on. The first power play wasn't good save for the one shot they did generate; a one-timer from Nick Palmieri - and his only notable move of the night. The Flyers matched up well against the Devils' top 6 tonight and forced them back quite a bit. The bottom six was nondescript; "energy" aside. While Parise and Elias did what they could; the trio of Kovalchuk, Palmieri, and Jacob Josefson just got picked on from the second period onward. If anything, their play is driving my disappointment from the forwards.
I'm sure most will be looking at Kovalchuk with a critical eye because of the turnovers and that the goalie stopped him twice on wide-open shots. That's fine. I want to talk about the other two. Josefson and Palmieri were mostly invisible tonight. That's not good given that one still has to make his case that he can take a center role with such possibility and the other is fighting for a right wing role. Since they could very well be in the Devils' top six to start the season, their nondescript performance in both ends of the rink tonight was not comforting at all. While this is preseason, other teams will catch wind of this unit and try to exploit that match-up over and over. Hopefully, Josefson and Palmieri will up their defensive game as well as their offensive game in the future - they'll pretty much have to.
Post-Game Sunshine Pumping: According to Tom Gulitti, Peter DeBoer is focusing on positives. I can see where's he coming from about the David Steckel line (he had a better game than he did last Friday); and I do agree with him about Brodeur and the first period. I don't get how he can say they played a good defensive game outside of the fact that the Flyers didn't blow the Devils way.
Sharpness For A Limited Time: What struck me the most was how well the Devils were distributing the puck in the first period. The Devils enjoyed extended stays in the Flyers' end of the rink, they fought hard for pucks, and they made on-point passes to each other. It strikes me especially in contrast to the second and third periods. Then, the Devils missed the mark a few times, made a few too many bad reads, and just looked sloppy even as they still competed for pucks. I'd love to see the Devils be sharper for more than 20 minutes. Could I tell you how exactly to do that? Unfortunately, not. Let's hope the Devils have an answer tomorrow and/or Saturday night.
Game Respects Game (Grumble): As much as I hate to praise a rival, but the Flyers did play a good game of hockey tonight. Jaormir Jagr looked good tonight, as did Simmonds, Giroux, and Briere. Scott Hartnell looked out of sync, but it was his preseason debut and he skated hard anyway. Once he's in form, he'll be a handful. Chris Pronger didn't throw any elbows and looked solid in his own end, though he did take a roughing call from Veilleux. The Flyers defenders and backchecking forwards showed a better effort in their own end after the first period and bravely blocked all kinds of shots from New Jersey. On top of all that, their goalies played well. It was a solid 40 minutes from Philadelphia and likely a sign of how future games will go against them. That said, let's hope they fall flat on their faces on October 1 and 8.
That's my take on tonight's preseason game. Now I want to hear from you. Did you think the Devils were fortunate to have this be only 2-1? What, if anything, did you notice the Devils were doing particularly well or poor as a team? Do you think any of the tryouts improved their stock to make the team? Do you think anyone did anything tonight to warrant a promotion or demotion? Who do you think the best Devil not named Brodeur was tonight? Please leave your answers and other relevant reactions to tonight's game in the comments. Thanks to everyone who commented and read the Gamethread; and thank you for reading this recap.
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Palmieri really hasn’t looked like a top 6 forward this preseason. Really hoping Zubrus is good to go because I think he would be a good fit with Kovy-Josefson.
As far as Sykora I thought he looked alright. He played better with Parise-Elias than Clarkson or Palmieri. I think he’ll earn a contract based soley on the fact that Clarkson/Palmieri haven’t stepped up.
Also I would like to see a Viellieux-Steckel-Clarkson line tested out in one of the last 2 preseason games.
by C.J. Richey on Sep 29, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve thought Palmieri has looked invisible this entire preseason – tonight he was plain bad. He was completely out of sync with Kovalchuk and Josefson, often having trouble collaring passes that weren’t perfectly on his stick and failing to exert much forechecking pressure. Defensively, he got caught out of position leaving the Flyers Dmen to drop open bombs from the point.
At this point I’m willing to try anything to solve our RW problem so I wouldn’t mind seeing Tedenby get a shot with Parise and Elias, and Henrique with Kovalchuk and Josefson. As you say, Palmieri and Clarkson have failed to prove they belong in the top 6. I think the team will ultimately have no choice but to play Zubrus at RW on one of the top 2 lines, but I don’t need to see him there in preseason – we know he can get the job done, let’s give the kids as many chances as possible to step up.
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It seems like the Flyers were trying to match up their Pronger-Carle shutdown pair against the Kovalchuk-Josefson-Palmieri line. Perhaps that is why Josefson and Palmieri were less effective tonight. Ideally, I would want that line to see the softest minutes of the top 9.
that’s interesting, i hadn’t noticed. that line just could not seem to get anything together. kovalchuk got a few scoring chances but i wouldn’t say they were because of the line’s (or even his) good play.
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Yeah exactly. Kovy’s chances were generated on the rush or from Flyers breakdowns rather than sustained pressure via cycles. It will be interesting to see if this could be a consistent match up struggle between DeBoer and opposing coaches, with DeBoer trying to get that line the easiest minutes possible. While of course this is all speculation, if this line is kept together for a long periods of time, I would definitely like to analyze their home/away splits because I feel the home ice last change advantage could be HUGE for this line in terms of match ups.
Eh, I dunno, that means you are giving up your second pair to be slaughtered by Parise and Elias. Given that the other two guys on the Kovalchuk line aren’t that great, I’d rather stick a second pairing on that line and hope for the best.
I wonder if there wasn’t some gamesmanship on the part of Laviolette, too.
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i don’t care about the penalties because guys are trying to make the team. they weren’t lazy fouls, they were violent ones, which i can abide, sometimes. it beats when everyone stood around watching jeff carter after salmela got taken out.
right now given how mills is doing in his fights and his play, i think he’s going to be called up before janssen, who hasn’t even been able to throw any of his signature body checks.
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completely disagree on Mills…his fight was needed….those runs he was speaking to happened…would rather lose this game then lose a player on a guy taking runs trying to earn a contract
agree on kovi jj pal line though…..2 of those 3 players are not top six players on a good team
our pre-season stuck last season and its not looking much better this season
oh yeah and someone let greene know his stick lie is way off!
Palmieri is garbage. I’m beginning to think last season was a fluke. They guy deserves to be in Albany. He hasn’t done one good thing that I’ve noticed this preseason. Plus the guy always seems to get Kovy angry when he ALWAYS runs into Kovy. Did anyone else see the expression on Kovy’s face when Palmieri skated into him tonight…
Sorry for the rant…much rather see Zubrus on that line..
by Marty's Better #30 on Sep 30, 2011 12:56 AM EDT reply actions
A Non-Expert's Take
Sykora looked great in training camp and in early preseason, but as he’s been playing against more solid competition he’s been showing his age. His shot is still there, no doubt, but he clearly can’t keep up with Parise and Elias, and his defense is lacking. His slowness is surprising though, considering Elias is a year older. Given all that, I could justify giving him a minimum contract and sticking him on a 3rd or 4th Line as well as along the boards on the PP.
I can already hear some of you now… “Give the youngin’s a try!” Absolutely! Just not Palmieri! I agree with (Marty’s Better #30), Palmieri’s play last year could have been a fluke. I’d love to just put him back in Albany and only use him for injuries until he proves himself again. There’s only one problem, NJ is just so weak on the RW, and down the middle is bad too with Zajac hurt. Otherwise, I’d much rather have Zubrus play the RW on either top line where he could actually help. But most likely Zubes will be the 3rd line center. At least Palmieri is a better option than Clarkson at RW.
The one youngin’ I DO hope gets a shot on Oct. 8th is Adam Henrique. He’s trult shown a knack for solid two-way play. He’s agressive offensively, and he’s smart enough to be in position when needed.
As for Clarkie as a top line RW, oh gosh no! His puck-hogging/shooting would hurt the REAL shooters on either top line who can actually use the puck, and his knack for poor defense and falling every three seconds could just make things worse. Isn’t it time we trade him by now or something?
Bernier has been a ghost this whole time as well. He’s supposed to play like a power forward with a slight scorers touch, but he plays more like a 4th line goon who doesn’t throw his fists. Bye-bye Bernier!
Now for defense: Adam Larsson has shown, at least so far, that he’s no fluke. He’s the real deal. And while time in Albany wouldn’t hurt him and save his ELC, I say keep him in NJ. The Devils could use his puck-moving prowess, hockey smarts, defensive discipline, and PP passing and shooting. Give his a shot, at least for 8 games. He deserves that much.
While Mark Fayne has looked shaky once in a while, he’s still shown enough of what he was last season to pass Taormina (Who I actually really like a lot), Fraser, and Corrente for that 6th D-man spot. However, I still feel that Urbom will be called up mid-season for inuries and shine.
Lastly, Anton Stralman. Stralman really impressed me early in preseason. But as time has passed, he’s proved that while he could add some minor offense, his lack of any true defense is just scary. I’d rather have six defensive d-men than six Stralman’s on the blueline anyday!
My Opening Night Roster: (Off) Parise-Elias-Zubrus, Kovy-Josefson-Tedenby, Henrique-Sykora-Palmieri, Zharkov-Steckel-Clarkson (Def) Greene-Volchenkov, Larsson-Tallinder, Fayne-Salvador (Goal) Brodeur-Hedberg
by EliasStillRocks on Sep 30, 2011 4:37 AM EDT reply actions
Wait a second....
These two statements make absolutely no sense to me when viewed together….
I agree with (Marty’s Better #30), Palmieri’s play last year could have been a fluke.
Adam Larsson has shown, at least so far, that he’s no fluke.
Nick Palmieri had a pretty good half-season last year: in 43 games that counted, he was 9-8-17 and a plus-9. Adam Larsson has played a grand total of 3 pre-season games.
Admittedly, Palmieri hasn’t had a wonderful exhibition schedule while Adam Larsson has shown tantalizing glimpses of his potential. Admittedly, both have been given a lot of opportunities in the last month, with Palmieri consistently skating on the top two lines and Larsson being given a ton of PP minutes.
A handful of exhibition games is enough to seriously diminish a solid half-season from Palmieri, yet the exact same handful of exhibition games is enough to declare Larsson the real deal? Isn’t it more likely from the accumulated weight of evidence that Palmieri is a legitimate NHL player — perhaps not a Top 6 forward, mind you, but someone who can play and contribute at the NHL level — and the jury is still out on Larsson until we see how he performs in a few regular season games?
Maybe Palmieri’s performance was a fluke. After all, he was playing bottom-six minutes at Albany prior to his recall last year. But I’m wary of drawing such definitive conclusions based on a handful of pre-season games…. and I’m especially wary of declaring someone a bonafide stud leaning largely on such a flimsy amount of evidence.
Palmieri’s PDO was off the charts, so we know his plus minus is a fluke. We also know that Larsson is going to be really good, whether it’s this year or in a few years.
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Palmieri’s high PDO had to have largely been driven by Kovalchuk’s return to shooting form (which was an incomplete regression to his mean). That inflated Palmieri’s assist numbers. His own shooting percentage was a Kovalchukian 13.6%. Add the two up and I think Palmieri deserved to score 6g-7a-13p if the team hadn’t had tremendously good puck luck when he was on the ice. 13 pts playing half a season one the team’s top line doesn’t look nearly as good.
What disturbs me from the preseason is that he looks unprepared to play. His hands aren’t shaking off the rust the way everyone else is, his work along the boards has been shoddy, and he hasn’t been near the front of the net. Worst, he looks a step slow, which is probably exacerbated by the fact that Josefson plays a speedier game than Zajac did. Josefson has been a pretty good fit for Kovalchuk, as they’ve been generating a lot of offense off the rush, a key part of Kovy’s game. Palmieri hasn’t done much to facilitate that (I will concede he sprung Kovalchuk for a partial breakaway at the end of the 1st last night) and in a few memorable instances, actually got in the way.
Bottom line is, his numbers from last season look inflated by luck and his play this preseason doesn’t suggest he’s improved his game.
As for Larsson, the kid can clearly play at the NHL level as he’s had every challenge thrown at him and not batted an eyelash. I’m not saying he’s going to develop into a bonafide stud, but I’d say he’s about 4-5 yrs ahead of the learning curve of an average NHL defenseman.
Silver linings
Personally, though the loss was disappointing, the only thing I’m worried about is not being able to find the right RWs to play on the top 2 lines.
The Flyers really did have their NHL lineup out there, minus JvR. Schenn was also held out, but he and Couturier aren’t that far apart and actually Couturier was very steady defensively and good at protecting the puck. JvR instead of Matt Read would have probably spelled a 4-1 Flyers win tonight, but hey – no team stays healthy throughout the year so this is as close the Flyers could have to a full lineup anyway.
The Devils played their two top lines with two fourth lines. I didn’t see DeBoer concerning himself too much with matchups – I think he wants to see whether the fourth line type players can face off against the opposition’s best and not get killed. I felt that most of the Flyers’ best chances came against the fourth line players, with a few against Kovalchuk’s line. They got basically nothing against Parise, Elias, and Sykora.
You saw this with the PK as well – 4th liners got a LOT of PK time and Stralman, who has no business being on the PK during the regular season should he somehow earn a contract, is the one who lost track of Jagr on the winning goal. I think in the regular season we’ll see Parise-Elias, Zubrus-Josefson, Steckel-Pelley (or whoever else is on the 4th line) as the PK forward pairings, but for now DeBoer is really trying to figure out which of the 4th liners should be kept around. And every defenseman likely to be on the opening night lineup (Tallinder, Larsson, Volchenkov, Greene, Salvador, and Fayne in my mind) are very capable of playing the PK.
And I loved how Brodeur played tonight. There are saves you don’t expect your goalie to make, but great goalies will make a certain percentage of those saves anyway. For the last couple of years, I haven’t seen Brodeur make those saves with enough regularity, but he was definitely sharp tonight.
The RW problem
(1) I don’t like how DeBoer has stuck with Palmieri on Kovalchuk’s line all preseason. He really just isn’t getting the job done. It’s time to concede that he’s still a kid with unrealized potential, and to give someone else a shot – either try out Henrique on that wing (I know it’s not a natural fit for him) or slot Zubrus on that wing and test out Henrique vs Sykora at 3rd line center. I know a lot of people want Tedenby on this line, but I just don’t think Teddy’s strong enough defensively to make up for the turnovers that Kovalchuk is going to inevitably commit.
(2) Sykora looked slow tonight, and not just in comparison to his linemates. I would have thought he’d have more jump playing with top-line players. I’d like to try Tedenby with Parise and Elias, but I also think Sykora deserves one more shot. I can’t imagine Parise and Elias are going to play 3 games in 3 nights, though.
(3) I don’t think Zharkov’s getting a fair shake. For one, he should get a better look as the 4th line RW. And though he’ll never be a big point producer, I think he’s a better fit for Kovalchuk’s line than Palmieri, who isn’t producing anything anyway. There I said it, criticize away.
(3) I don’t think Zharkov’s getting a fair shake. For one, he should get a better look as the 4th line RW. And though he’ll never be a big point producer, I think he’s a better fit for Kovalchuk’s line than Palmieri, who isn’t producing anything anyway. There I said it, criticize away.
I’m pretty sure Zharkov won’t get even a chance to play on the JJ/IK line… During that time, guys like Clarkson and Palmieri play garbage hockey, are praised by DeBoer and the medias* . Finally they are playing full minutes. Palmieri for example, has played all preseason games.
It’s a bit disappointing.
*Devils see Nick Palmieri as NHL-caliber power forward
DeBoer disappointed in Devils’ play in 6-2 loss to Isles; Points to Palmieri, Fraser as positives
"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"
by Elektrostal_Kid on Sep 30, 2011 8:42 AM EDT reply actions
Sigh, Im on board now with the people who said they would trade for Hemsky. We need at least one offensive right wing, and we do not have that at all right now.
And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?
Heh, I’d take him, he’s definitely slowing down, but still awesome to watch as a captain.
And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?
It is awesome, right? I’m still a Gionta fan, and always have been, being a smaller RW-type player myself. Gives us all hope!
Notice how we haven’t recovered at that position since his departure? Sure, we can move guys over, and yes Langs played well and put up some points for a bit (mostly due to playing with Parise) but a part of me still wishes Gionta never left…
by SatanicStickholders on Sep 30, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Love Gionta’s game but a definite no to his contract. It was a bad contract when it was signed, and it’s not any better now.
Agree with you there. Then again, I haven’t been happy with about 80% of the contracts we’ve had to see in recent memory.
Sometimes Lou makes you wonder, but just like I never knew why my grandfather would disappear in the woods for days at a time only to come back with a handful of mushrooms, I’m sure there is a method to his madness.
by SatanicStickholders on Sep 30, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Most important number of the night against a Flyers team icing 95% of their starting line-up: 24:48
I’m not going to lie to you. It felt good and I’m going to do whatever is in my power possible to stay there as long as I can. - Petr Sykora on playing on a line with Elias and Parise.
That number sticks out to me as well, but if you delve deeper into it, it can’t really be too surprising. As much as 25 TOI may seem, if you consider that he plays a regular shift at even strength, does a bit of PK, is on the first PP unit (over 1 minute per shift there), and was out at the end of the game (extra minute or so), 23-25 minutes is entirely reasonable. I could definitely see him logging 15-18 ES minutes, 1-2 PK minutes, and 2-4 PP minutes per game during the season.
i don’t think the devils will use him on the penalty kill in the regular season much. assuming the opening six will be tallinder, volchenkov, greene, fayne, larsson, salvador, the other 5 guys are all capable of killing penalties. now if injuries happen and someone like taormina is called up, that could change, but at first i’d expect him to get between 18-20 minutes.
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You’re right, he probably shouldn’t see much PK time with that lineup. I would then assume he got PK time last night due to Volchenkov’s absence.
DeBoer said they tossed him out there in every situation to best figure out where and when to play him in the regular sesaon, and doesn’t expect him to get that many minutes on a regular basis. Sounds like our newest Swede is sticking on the big club.
For me, it was just reassuring that he could handle that many minutes against an NHL squad and not get tired or sloppy as he played past 20.
I’ll eat the first slice of pie, I thought the kid would be better of in Albany for a year, but he’s certainly shown that he at least deserves to start the season in NJ.
I’m not going to lie to you. It felt good and I’m going to do whatever is in my power possible to stay there as long as I can. - Petr Sykora on playing on a line with Elias and Parise.
Wow, how some on here get so down on players in preseason is mind boggling. The vets or guys who know they have a spot are going 80-90 % and the guys trying to get off the bubble are usually running around trying to show off individual skills or moments. The only thing I ever get out of watching pre season is seeing some guys that you’ve never seen before or heard of.
Obviously after AL the play of Mills, Villeux, Henrique and Strahlman would make me think that the Devs brass has some decisions to make on whose in and whos out. Guys like Tao, Corrente Fraser may not see the big club. At forward Janssans, Zharkov may also be Albany bound.
Everyone needs to take deep breaths and remember its not fashionable to start bashing the guys you root for until it counts.
Amen to that.
Besides, no one is criticizing the vets right now. Kovalchuk, Parise, Elias, Tallinder, Volchenkov, Greene, Salvador, Brodeur, and Hedberg are all getting free passes through the preseason. Even Josefson is kinda getting a free pass because we all know where he’s going to be on opening right – alongside Kovalchuk.
But all the other guys are fighting for spots – whether it be making the NHL club or getting prominent ice time. They’re fair game for criticism and we’ve had a long summer of waiting to watch some game action.
I was at the game last night, and I’m really not too concerned about the team. They were downright dominant in the first, just didn’t hit the back of the net. Let me tell you, it was quiet in that building during that period. Couple of Flyers style goals later and you get the outcome. No big deal.
Anyone concerned about the Devils looking out of sync last night should have seen the Flyers. Score aside, it was pretty funny. They were constantly tripping over the blueline or mishandling the puck. Granted it’s preseason, and you obviously shouldn’t take much stock in it, but that’s exactly why I’m not concerned about the Devils.
DeBoer’s style definitely forces a lot of turnovers by the opposition. That said, the Devils were pretty sloppy with turnovers in the second half of the game.

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