Potential Zach Parise suitors
I'm sure there is nary a soul around here who doesn't know that Zach is currently 5 months, 19 days shy of becoming an Unrestricted Free Agent, should he choose to go on the open market instead of working out a deal with the Devils beforehand. Seemingly every other team's fans think that their team will sign him, while Devils fans waver from certain he'll stay to certain he'll go.
After recent comments were made by his father, there's further questions and doubts swirling over his desire to get paid and get Cups. So I was curious, and I took a look into the matter a bit...
In a somewhat recent WSJ article (h/t Cherno77), Zach's father opened up his yap about his son's potential status as the darling of free agency. He was clearly awed by the fact that Brad Richards is earning $12M this year and next (part of a contract that is in no way, shape, or form against the spirit of the CBA when he makes $1M each of the final 3 years...but I digress), and it's rather evident that he wants Zach to get his fair share of the Benjamins.
As JP said himself of Zach and his future payday, "He's overly loyal, and he's not going to rush into anything. He's always loved the New Jersey Devils. He's been extremely loyal to the organization, to his teammates. But this is business now."
Zach, speaking to Rich Chere, said of the matter recently, "For me that’s probably the biggest thing (winning a Cup). The money is definitely important. That’s real life, let’s face it. I’m not going to say it’s not. That’s realistic. But most important for me is being competitive and having a chance to win the Stanley Cup."
I can certainly appreciate his candor. Let's face it, if Zach isn't signed by July 1, he's this year's Brad Richards, the bell of the ball. He's going to demand a hefty price tag, and rather than beat around the bush, he's at least forthright about it. Though of course, he does continue to repeat the same message that, ""I’ve said before. I’ve always liked to play in New Jersey. I want to stay here and nothing has changed."
So apparently Zach's two criteria for signing boils down to Ben and Stan...who's going to pay him while giving him the opportunity to win a Cup. I began to wonder, what teams can pay him and provide him a chance at the Cup. I took a look at Capgeek's numbers for 2012-2013, while comparing each team's postseason history since Zach entered the NHL.
| Team | Payroll | Cap Space | Roster | Conf06 | Conf07 | Conf08 | Conf09 | Conf10 | Conf11 | Avg Finish |
| Detroit Red Wings | $39,667,045 | $24,632,955 | 14 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 2.17 |
| San Jose Sharks | $55,564,167 | $8,735,833 | 14 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2.67 |
| New Jersey Devils | $38,754,166 | $25,545,834 | 13 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 11 | 4.17 |
| Vancouver Canucks | $54,974,999 | $9,325,001 | 16 | 9 | 3 | 11 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 5.00 |
| Pittsburgh Penguins | $54,856,667 | $9,443,333 | 17 | 15 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5.67 |
| Buffalo Sabres | $57,021,190 | $7,278,810 | 18 | 4 | 1 | 10 | 10 | 3 | 7 | 5.83 |
| Washington Capitals | $44,573,461 | $19,726,539 | 16 | 14 | 14 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 5.83 |
| Anaheim Ducks | $36,577,500 | $27,722,500 | 11 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 8 | 11 | 4 | 5.83 |
| Nashville Predators | $32,769,167 | $31,530,833 | 13 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 6.33 |
| Philadelphia Flyers | $58,838,373 | $5,461,627 | 19 | 5 | 15 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 2 | 6.67 |
| Montreal Canadiens | $46,232,143 | $18,067,857 | 12 | 7 | 10 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 6 | 6.67 |
| New York Rangers | $48,383,334 | $15,916,666 | 15 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 8 | 6.83 |
| Ottawa Senators | $35,835,833 | $28,464,167 | 13 | 1 | 4 | 7 | 11 | 5 | 13 | 6.83 |
| Calgary Flames | $44,364,166 | $19,935,834 | 16 | 3 | 8 | 7 | 5 | 10 | 10 | 7.17 |
| Boston Bruins | $51,732,143 | $12,567,857 | 14 | 13 | 13 | 8 | 1 | 6 | 3 | 7.33 |
| Dallas Stars | $35,950,000 | $28,350,000 | 12 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 12 | 12 | 9 | 7.67 |
| Carolina Hurricanes | $33,586,667 | $30,713,333 | 15 | 2 | 11 | 9 | 6 | 11 | 9 | 8.00 |
| Chicago Blackhawks | $54,611,794 | $9,688,206 | 17 | 14 | 13 | 10 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 8.50 |
| Minnesota Wild | $43,417,777 | $20,882,223 | 12 | 11 | 7 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 12 | 9.17 |
| Colorado Avalanche | $21,458,333 | $42,841,667 | 8 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 15 | 8 | 14 | 9.83 |
| Tampa Bay Lightning | $45,263,583 | $19,036,417 | 14 | 8 | 7 | 15 | 14 | 12 | 5 | 10.17 |
| Winnipeg Jets | $35,617,959 | $28,682,042 | 13 | 10 | 3 | 14 | 13 | 10 | 12 | 10.33 |
| Phoenix Coyotes | $30,837,500 | $33,462,500 | 15 | 12 | 15 | 12 | 13 | 4 | 6 | 10.33 |
| St. Louis Blues | $33,745,832 | $30,554,168 | 15 | 15 | 10 | 14 | 6 | 9 | 11 | 10.83 |
| Los Angeles Kings | $50,114,642 | $14,185,358 | 19 | 10 | 14 | 15 | 14 | 6 | 7 | 11.00 |
| Toronto Maple Leafs | $49,048,333 | $15,251,667 | 16 | 9 | 9 | 12 | 12 | 15 | 10 | 11.17 |
| Edmonton Oilers | $38,149,999 | $26,150,001 | 15 | 8 | 12 | 9 | 11 | 15 | 15 | 11.67 |
| Columbus Blue Jackets | $48,549,560 | $15,750,440 | 15 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 7 | 14 | 13 | 11.83 |
| Florida Panthers | $41,144,500 | $23,155,500 | 16 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 9 | 14 | 15 | 12.00 |
| New York Islanders | $33,640,665 | $30,659,335 | 13 | 12 | 8 | 13 | 15 | 13 | 14 | 12.50 |
I went through the regular season standings for the NHL and listed where each team finished in their respective conference. The list above is sorted by the average final standing in the conference over the past 6 seasons. Not surprising is Detroit has the highest average seeding for the entire league, averaging 2.17. Followed behind them are the Sharks at 2.67 (fitting as these are the only two teams with consecutive postseason appearances of at least 6 years). Right behind them, despite finishing 11th in the conference last year, is the Devils, at an average seed of 4.17, good for first in the conference.
If Zach wants to win a Cup, you gotta go to a team that shows that it can get to the dance in the first place. This would, in theory, rule out teams like Edmonton, Florida, NYI, Columbus, Toronto, LAK, StL, Phoenix, Winnipeg, Tampa, and even home state Minnesota.
Looking at the top 16 teams, the next thing to consider is cap space going forward. Barring trades, AHL burials, and releasing players, this should give a fair idea of who is still in the running among contenders.
Teams like San Jose, Vancouver, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Philadelphia are right out of it, what with small cap spaces for a lot of open roster spots. Nashville doesn't like to spend too much money, and a lot of that $31M is going to be tied up by Weber and Suter.
Based off of the charts, my guess is the best ZP suitors would be Detroit, Anaheim, and Ottawa. Less likely suitors due to cap constraints would be Montreal, Washington, Calgary (and former coach Sutter), and Our Hated Rivals.
Also, there's the Devils. We've got $25.5M in cap space for next season with 13 players under contract. We need to sign 2 goalies (if Marty comes back, it'll be for less than $5M of course). Salvador and Foster are off the books. Then we have RFAs who will likely be resigned for cheap (Palmieri, Taormina, Fayne, Zharkov).
Basically, we've got a lot of open cap space to use to sign ZP, resign our FA's, and add some important pieces to the mix.
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If the Devils can get their ownership situation out and offer Parise a respectable contract, NJ is still the best fit for him. He knows the Devils want to win, he knows he’s an asset and will help the Devils win again and he knows that he can succeed personally in NJ.
Sure, he could bolt to another team, and he may earn a few extra dollars, but Parise isn’t a natural sniper who can score in any system. Parise has had success in New Jersey, and he has the chance to be a Devils legend while still making a nice salary.
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No, Nashville definitely wants Parise!
GMDP has said multiple times that he wants to sign Weber and Suter – but they won’t sign unless they think the Preds are a Cup contender or at least make a move for a forward that might push them to the top. Parise can be that forward. It would push Nashville to the cap or near it, but as GMDP has said – he has the green light to spend.
Now, I know fanbases aren’t big on star player for package player deals. But I think this is pretty fair, considering: (Colin Wilson + Sergei Kostitsyn) + and either Blum or Lindback or 3rd rounder. ?
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It’d have to be a lot more to pry away the Devils captain. NSH would have to send Suter and Lindback or something like that, at least in my opinion.
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by DownGoesAvery on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I talked with Marc [Torrence] about this on twitter before (and Burton, by the way whatever happened to him…), and his offer was more or less Lindback+Elllis and a 1st.
If the Devils are trading with the Preds, here’s what I’m hoping comes back- Shea Weber Lindback, Austin Watson and a 1st for Parise and Fayne (you need depth on d, right?)
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 11, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
you forgot to include Sergei Kostitsyn in that deal, if Zach goes to the Preds we need a forward like Kostitsyn.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 12, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks Marty is going to retire after this year? I mean, his contract is up. Who’s going to sign him for big money? Last night just reinforced my thoughts.
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I hope he does, but something tells me that he’s not convinced he can’t play one more good season. I don’t think he wants to go out on such a sour note (and let’s be honest: his stats right now are backup goalie stats at best), but it’s hard for a legend to recognize and/or accept that he just doesn’t have it in him anymore.
It would certainly make signing Parise easier, but I just don’t think he’s willing to leave yet, however unfortunate that may be.
by Dr. Witticism on Jan 12, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
P.S.
Hedberg was absolutely brilliant tonight.
by Dr. Witticism on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Penguins game
Was Brodeur not as brilliant or more in the last game VS the Penguins? Each of these guys can have a hot or cold glove on any given night.
by NewarkCupParade on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t implying that he wasn’t. Hedberg happened to play right before I posted my comment. I can’t talk about how brilliantly he played without someone thinking I’m somehow snubbing Brodeur. Sheesh.
by Dr. Witticism on Jan 13, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I’d have no problem with Brodeur coming back next season, but only if he was backing someone up. His days as the clear-cut starter are over.
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by DownGoesAvery on Jan 14, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
Wrong Direction
I think you’re looking at this in the wrong way. Past performance is not indicative of future performance, as they say when purchasing mutual funds. Look at the Penguins in the years leading up to their Stanley Cup or the Blackhawks leading up to theirs, or even look to Boston a few seasons ago. Those teams were all garbage. In 2006, the Penguins, Blackhawks and Bruins were all in the bottom three of their respective conferences. They won the Stanley Cup in 2009, 2010 and 2011 respectively, all within 5 years of being the worst team in their conference.
People need to take JP Parise’s words with a grain of salt. He had a moderately successful career in the NHL, the highlight of which was the 1972 Summit Series. However he never won the Stanley Cup, coming as close as game seven of the 1975 finals (Islanders/Flyers) and losing. I feel that he is trying to live vicariously through Zach, who will have an infinitely more successful career than his father.
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I think you’re looking at this in the wrong way.
I agree.
If his goal is to win and he wants to look at other teams he needs to make some judgement calls on the rising teams more than the ones who’ve had recent success or otherwise plateaued.
It comes down to how much he wants to win and how soon. He could go the Marian Hossa route and take a little less in money and/or term to be a cog on a team he thinks has a shot to win right now but that may fall off afterward, or he could join a team on the upswing that looks like it could contend shortly and for some time on which he’d be an integral piece. By and large teams go through cycles of competitiveness and while there are a few exceptions like Detroit, generally going to a team with recent success may be like boarding the Titanic after all the celebrating and it’s left port on its maiden voyage (how’s it feel, Paul Martin?!).
Call it an oversimplification of the requirements, and curiosity on my part. I know it’s hard to forecast the future of a team and really wasn’t sure how to try to incorporate something like that.
And who knows, maybe that will be a part of Zach’s decision-making process. Is it too far-fetched to think that people in the sports world base decisions on past (not current) performance? Look at some players who make the Pro Bowl or All-Star game or win certain awards based off of their past reputation. Devils fans felt that Zajac should have won the Selke back in 2010. And who here doesn’t feel slighted that Ray Bourque took home Scott Stevens’ Norris back in 1994?
by Marty 4 Prez on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Is it too far-fetched to think that people in the sports world base decisions on past (not current) performance?
No, not at all. No one can say for sure what other factors might be involved.
I’m sure money would come into it. Playing in or near his home state might come into it. Dislike of a coach or a potential teammate might play into it. Who knows?
If it comes to it he may very well choose a team that’s had recent success, feeling he’s the missing piece that could maintain or return them to glory (for instance, if Crosby returns, who wouldn’t want to play with him?) and that it gives him the best chance to win now, as opposed to later. For long-term viability, however, it stands to reason that he’d be best served choosing a team on the rise whose window is just opening rather than banking on squeezing through a window that’s closing.
Meh. I mean, your method got you Anaheim, which is a team in enormous disarray that will have zero interest in Zach Parise. Sure, they won a Cup in 2007, but they’re one of the worst teams in the league right now.
Detroit’s an interesting case – they have the money, but I’m not sure Zach would want to go there. Their best players are all over 30. While they’ve got lots of prospects, most of them aren’t quite ready for the NHL yet.
I still think Chicago’s being overlooked here – they’ve ditched a ton of salary over the last year, and they’ve got an impressive team with a decent prospect base. That means they can afford to sign someone like Parise and still have money for other things.
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Well played.
I like the idea, but couldn’t that sort of enticement be viewed as cap circumvention? And do we really want to incur the wrath of the Great Bettman?
How about a bear on a unicycle. Surely that couldn’t be viewed as cap circumvention.
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by NJD28 on Jan 14, 2012 2:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The number one “auto google fill in term” when you type “zach parise” is “girlfriend.”
Too bad Norm MacDonald can’t do an Oh Google segment on it.
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Trade?
IF he has to get traded, how is this?? (I dont want to trade him)
Blackhawks: G Salak, D Hjalmarsson ,LW Stalberg, RW Ben Smith
Devils: LW. Praise, RW Palmieri, 4th round pick
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I just realized that would add 2 more swedes to the team….
Why not trade him for a proven asset like …. Getzlaf, Perry, or Ryan. What would we want all of the Blackhawk’s late round fodder for?
I don’t think anyone would trade one of RPG for a pending UFA.
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Pierre Gauthier would.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think if we moved Zach we would need to address our depth at RW, not further complicate things on LW.
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If Chicago is making a trade for Parise between now and the deadline, they’re looking to load up for a Stanley Cup run. If that’s the case, I think it’s highly doubtful you’re getting a Top 4 Defenseman (which Hjalmarsson absolutely is) out of them, especially when the ‘Hawks don’t have the greatest amount of depth on the blue line to begin with.
I’d rather go for McNeill, Danault/Kruger and Chicago’s 1st.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I fully expect him to be a Red Wing next season. I hope I’m wrong.
If I’m right, give Kovy the C, and sign the best RW we can find.
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Ummm…..that’s not exciting anybody. :(
I hope Zach doesn’t dream of playing in a Winter Classic, because the Wings and Leafs bargaining positions just got a little better.
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by Mandmeisterx on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hemsky is near unstoppable when he is healthy. The dude is an offensive dynamo, but his defensive game is not that great. For the right price I would be happy to see Hemsky in red and black next year.
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by NJD28 on Jan 14, 2012 2:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
How about Parise and a 4th rounder for Stamkos, Connolly and Hedman…or am I overrated Parise…….a little??
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overrating*
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by DownGoesAvery on Jan 14, 2012 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
You forgot the sarcasm font
Stamkos > Parise. We may not think so, but there’s absolutely no way the Lightning would make that 1-for-1 swap, even if you had Parise signed to a long-term and cap-friendly deal.
Victor Hedman is better than any defenseman we have on the team right now. He’s one of the better defensemen in the League (when healthy). There’s no possible way Tampa would trade him for a mid-round pick, let alone throw another player into the deal.
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My prediction is that Parise will be wearing red next season.
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by NJD28 on Jan 14, 2012 2:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Not too big and American? Montreal!
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by red army line on Jan 16, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
My prediction: Parise will not be traded. He will play and the Devils will make the playoffs. Then, the rights to sign him will be traded away like the Coyotes & Flyers did for Bryzgalov.
We can choose to bury our heads in the sand vis-à-vis our team’s financial woes. From what I’ve read, it is not good, but as always I’m anticipating a detailed breakdown from Matt V.
I just think as the news slowly leaks about Vanderbeek’s financial woes, Zach is going to jump ship.
I don’t know how much actual extra money a playoff game is worth to the team’s bottom line, but I believe it is a lot. This is why the Devils will not deal Parise. They need him to make the playoffs. Then, before the draft, they will trade away his negotiating rights to someone else for cash, maybe a draft pick and future considerations.
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I just think as the news slowly leaks about Vanderbeek’s financial woes, Zach is going to jump ship.
If the news keeps coming from the Post, I’m not too worried. They’re rehashing the same issues. There’s been no “news” all season.
Then, before the draft, they will trade away his negotiating rights to someone else for
cash,maybe a draft pick and future considerations.
Cash trades aren’t allowed in the NHL.
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I believe he'll stay with the Devils.
Because I think that by mid to late-March, the Devils will either lead the division or be 4th in the Conference. If they finish strong and get out of the first round of the playoffs, he’ll stay.
Let’s hope that when Greene, Josefson, and Zajac return fully that it gives them enough depth at all positions. That would improve their chances for a second-half surge.
The Devils are a team with a history of winning. It’s a team he’s familiar with, he’s loyal to, and that he trusts/ understands. On top of which, he’ll look sideways and see true professionals like Kovalchuk and Elias who showed great heart in the second half last season. This season, it’s the same and he can include Henrique and Clarkson on that list. 7 players are putting up good numbers on a broad, emsemble cast of goal scorers. The Devils are no one-line team.
When so much has been said about his main priority (winning a Stanley Cup), when he re-ups with the Devils it will be a clear indication that he thinks the Devils are on the cusp of a franchise-defining turn-around.
As to Vanderbeek: Nelson Peltz (own’s Wendy’s burger place corp) might just pick up the tab soon enough, or at least by the time of the Playoffs if Vanderbeek can’t work out a plan to securitize the TV rights (this month? Or by February?) then Peltz might swoop in. I think I’d prefer he did, because that means a billionaire hockey fan owns the team. Pegula has been good for the Sabres fan’s hopes… so maybe Peltz could do the same here.
Who said he was interested in the Devils? I’m honestly curious how his name is popping up.
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by John Fischer on Jan 14, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I presume you’re talking about Peltz. There was a fanshot a few months ago, here:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/billionaire-considering-deal-with-new-jersey-devils-112211 and also this fanpost, which was on the financial state of the team, which mentions vaguely about a NY Post article about an interested buyer, and talks about Vanderbeek potentially redoing the TV deal. here:
http://blog.northjersey.com/meadowlandsmatters/1485/the-state-of-the-devils-addressed/#more-1485
*Both of the links are from the two fanshots, which are found here:
http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/11/24/2585342/wendys-billionaire-owner-looking-to-buy-devils#comments
and
http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/11/29/2597084/article-on-the-state-of-the-devils-financially#comments
Yeah, that’s what I was referring to. It was also on Forbes or Bloomberg news’ biz section.
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