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Halfway through the Devils season, five questions still begging for answers

#1) Why is Adam Oates still coaching the power play?

The issue of Oates being an assistant coach in NJ has been widely talked about this season, and everyone has their own opinions/complaints. With that in mind, I’ll save you the boredom of reading more opinions, and instead show you a few statistics that I haven’t seen mentioned during these debates. So here we go. When Oates was hired as the power play coach prior to the start of last season, there was much hype as to how much this former NHL great would be able to help boost the production of our power play units. But what exactly were these claims based off of? In other words, what experience did Oates ever have as a power play coach? Has Oates ever demonstrated success in coaching and guiding the power play units for an NHL team? Or were we simply hiring him off of his body of work performed as a player in the NHL? The fact that Oates was only the powerplay coach in Tampa Bay for one season should already show you that this guy doesn’t have much experience under his belt. In fact, the stint in Tampa Bay was the only year Oates had ever coached in the NHL prior to joining the Devils staff. So how did the Tampa Bay PP unit perform before Oates was there, while he was there, and after he left for NJ?

To the stats:

Before Oates arrived, the Tampa Bay power play unit performed as follows:

Season: 2008-2009
PPG- 61
PP%- 17.8
SHGA- 9

Rank- #19

For comparisons sake, the Devils were ranked better (#15) than the Lightning in the year before Oates coached in Tampa.

Now for the year Oates spent as assistant coach in Tampa:

Season: 2009-2010
PPG- 63
PP%- 19.3
SHGA- 6

Rank- #8

New Jersey’s rank during this same season was #11.

Following the 2009-2010 season, Oates left Tampa for NJ. Let’s look at how both teams PP stats fared following this transition:

Season: 2010-2011
PPG- 69
PP%- 20.5
SHGA- 16

Rank- #6

It’s no secret NJ had a horrible year which coincided with the first year Oates was in NJ. So maybe it’s unsurprising that our PP % ranked #28 in the league last season. We also scored the fewest PP goals out of any team.

Looking at the above stats we can speculate and draw conclusions (right or wrong) on a number of issues. But one thing pops out vividly: what exactly did Oates show in Tampa that qualified him as being worthy to hire by New Jersey? If one simply looks at the overall team rankings for PP% both before and while Oates was in Tampa, it’s obvious the team improved. (They went from being ranked #19 to #8 overall under Oates) The problem is that this obviously doesn’t tell the entire story. Despite jumping in the standings by 11 places, the Tampa PP actually only scored 2 more goals than they had the previous season. A small difference in shorthanded goals and the amount of overall opportunities aside, the difference between Tampa’s PP before and during Oates was all but negligible. To make matters worse, the Lightning PP unit drastically improved following Oates’ departure. After he left, Tampa responded by improving their overall conversion % and putting up 6 more goals than they had the previous year. Ironically, their SHGA also increased quite dramatically. On the other hand, and as I mentioned above, the Devils dropped significantly under Maclean and Oates, falling from #11 all the way to #28. So far this season we’ve obviously continued our PP woes, and are currently ranked #21 overall in PP conversion %.

Summary: Oates has no body of work which justified his original candidacy as a legitimate PP coach for our Devils, let alone a body of work which serves as evidence for why he should continue to be employed here. Our failures on the PP have been miserable despite having what I consider to be a top PP unit which should rival that of any other team in the league. Oh, and did I mention our SHGAs, and how we’re on pace to break the record?

Scoring PP goals equates to additional points on the board, and as a team that is traditionally hungry for any type of goal they can get, they’re even more crucial for our Devils. We’re involved in tons of close games and our SH unit has stepped up to provide secondary scoring to our 5on5 production. Who knows how our win/loss column might look had our PP unit simply performed to that of the league average, or slightly better. It also infuses confidence. Winning games adds confidence; players adding to their scoring totals boosts confidence, and not having a miserable PP unit that makes you more nervous about letting up a goal than you are excited about scoring one will add to confidence as well.


With that said, fire Oates.

#2) Why is Kovalchuk still averaging so much TOI per game?

Kovalchuk continues to average over 24 minutes of ice time per game. That’s good for more minutes per game than he’s ever averaged in his career. Has Kovy been terrible this year, absolutely not, but he continues to not fully live up to the expectations all of us had before he signed his big deal here. Elite players thrive on lots of opportunities and ice time, I get it, but we have to ask ourselves if we’re potentially burning out one of our star players. Kovy is still an incredible athletic specimen who has many years to help this team win a Cup, but can he really handle averaging two more minutes per game than the next closest forward in the NHL this year? Seriously, Kovy is not only playing more than he ever has before, and he’s not only playing far more than every other NHL forward this season, but he’s also has a higher ATOI than many NHL defensemen so far. I’m all for playing our best players as much as possible, but we can’t forget about how this may be affecting other areas of his game, and our team’s overall game.

Kovy also leads the league in turnovers/giveaways. This isn’t so much of a surprise since NHL.com statistics list him as a frequent overall leader in this category throughout the years. But the rate he turned the puck over early this season begged the question of whether the extra burdens of ice time we are continually relying on him for might be resulting in these elevated turnover numbers. Is he more tired than he traditionally is during games, and is he reaching a level of tiredness earlier in games than he has previously been accustom to? Has he been forced to slow his play down to ensure he’s able to survive his many shifts throughout each game? Does this "slowing down" of play result in him becoming more risky with the puck, perhaps even more "lazy"? Last year Kovy showed us all just how incredible of a second-half force he can be. Will Kovy be as dominant during the second-half of this season, and if not, will we end up attributing it to burning him out in the first half? We need him to be ready for the playoffs, we need him to be ready for future seasons, and we need to make sure we aren’t putting him in a position that facilitates the occurrence of an injury to one of our stars. These are all questions we need to consider as we move forward.

Consider the depth of last year’s Stanley Cup champions, the Boston Bruins. I will talk a little on our depth later, but comparing the Devils ATOI totals of this year to the Bruins of last year shows what a disparity there actually is. Boston’s top line averaged about 18-19 minutes of TOI per game, Parise and Kovy are averaging 22 and 24. This inevitably leads to not just the potential for star-burnout, but also a nearly non-existent fourth line.

#3) Why do we need both Eric Boulton and Cam Janssen?

Recent Stanley Cup champions and great NHL teams alike have shown us just how important depth, and particularly depth scoring, can be in winning it all. I understand that teams like Chicago and Boston had lower lines which could both put the puck in the net and fight, but I still don’t think NJ has that luxury. Instead, I question why we have taken the approach so far this season of ensuring we bring the fighting element more than the depth scoring element. Has asking Boulton and Janssen to lace up the skates and attempt to play hockey really resulted in deterring opponents from taking liberties on our players? We’re paying these guys to do something, fight, which I wholeheartedly enjoy as a part of the game, but when they continually prove they can’t do anything else I can’t help but become frustrated. Eric Boulton, and more particularly Cam Janssen, are the definition of one-dimensional NHL players. They literally cannot do anything but fight and skate full speed into the boards, hoping they hit or make contact with their target before it moves out of the way. Why are we paying these guys to only fight when there are plenty of similar types of players on other teams which can also do it, and even score occasionally as well? I don’t think removing Boulton and Janssen would be a detriment the safety of our team. Clarkson can play hockey and drop the gloves as well, Salvador can drop the gloves, and even Kovy has shown he’s willing to occasionally as well. And that’s just to name a few. The fact is that we have plenty of players who will stick up for each other should the opportunity present itself as necessary. Also important to remember is how much the league is shifting towards a system where players will no longer be needed, or even allowed, to protect each other as they have in the past. The Shanahammer and the league have shown that they desire to be the judge, jury, and executioner on all such types of illegal offenses. This transition, in which the league focuses more on player safety than ever before, clearly signals the decline of enforcers in the NHL.

4) Why aren’t we using our organizational depth effectively?

With the removal of Boulton and Janssen from the lineup, the roster vacancys allow us to finally ice a team that gives us the best chance to score goals, play defensive hockey, and win games each night. And honestly, what other areas are as important as these in a given hockey game? Opinions on Vladimir Zharkov are mixed, but I still love him and long for the day in which he can attempt to prove himself in the NHL again. I’m also a major Tedenby fan, but halfway through the season my stance on him has considerably and understandably diminished.

Josefson is pretty much back, Zajac will most likely return within several weeks, and it’s time to appropriately and effectively utilize our organizational depth. Call up Zharkov, keep Zalewski, or keep Palmieri, it doesn’t matter, but decisions must be made which result in us icing a better team each night than we have been all season.

Parise-Henrique-Kovy

Sykora-Elias-Zubrus

Zharkov – Zajac – Clarkson

Tedenby – Josefson – Palmieri

I can’t find any faults or reasons to not be excited about those lines. We’d obviously be dealing with major sacrifices in the category of ENERGY, but I think a short amount of time would show that the pros ultimately and overwhelmingly outweigh the cons. Also keep in mind that with my suggestion in #2 above, we would be playing our superstars less per game so that they would be more fresh and have the legs to play as quality of hockey as they can late into games. This gives us more TOI to allot to our lower lines, as past great teams have done. Very roughly: 18-19 minutes to our first line, 15-16 to our second, 15-16 to our third, and 12-13 to our fourth.

Is there a lineup more skilled than the one above? I can’t think of one, and yet we still aren’t using it. To top it off, the above lineup is also infused with youth. I think it will lead to exciting hockey from all 4 lines that will result in more goals, better long term chemistry, and more wins. What’s not to love about a hockey team that can actually play the game?

#5) Why hasn’t Zach Parise been re-signed?

I don’t want to hear it anymore. I already know that traditionally, Lou does not negotiate with players during the season. The reason for this is so that it does not become a distraction. Hello? Unless you’re a Devils fan living under a rock, the uncertainty surrounding Parise’s contract is already a distraction, and has been since summer. (Even someone who lives under THE Rock is probably aware).

Before the season started I was nervous about whether Parise still "had it". Would he be the same Parise we love? Would he bring that same ridiculous intensity and passion to each game as he used to before his injury? The answer is a resounding yes. After a bit of a slow start, Parise has shown his ability to adapt to any sort of situation he’s placed in. New linemates, no problem, Parise will transition his game so that it brings out the best in everyone around him. We’ve known him as a guy who can score the ugly goals down low, but this year Parise has demonstrated his effectiveness at passing and developing plays. The emergence of the Henrique/Parise duo has been spectacular to watch, especially on the PK. Henrique deserves a ton of credit for pretty much saving this team and season, but in my eyes there’s no doubt that much of his effectiveness can be attributed to the play of Parise. Who’s the guy who often springs Henrique for those breakaway opportunities? Who’s the guy who ends up having multiple 2-0s in the same game, and decides not to take the shot on any of them? Parise is an unselfish player, the Captain, and the face of this team. He pursues opponents with a dogged determination unlike that possessed by any other player in the greatest hockey league in the world. It’s no secret he’s about to be a UFA, and it’s no secret that every team in the league is clawing at the opportunity to attain his services.

As I said above, prior to the season I was nervous that Parise might not be the same player after his injury. He’s now shown that question to be a thing of the past. Parise is back, and arguably better than ever before. He’s stated all along that he loves NJ and that he wants to stay in NJ. And we need him to stay here as well. Brodeur was worthy of an in-season contract negotiation. Why isn’t Parise?

Why is it, that halfway through the season, I’m hearing more tidbits and details about the negotiations from JP Parise, Parise’s father, than I am hearing from Lou Lamoriello? To me, this is unacceptable. The only unanswered question which had an answer contingent on time elapsing is now no longer unanswered. Parise is back, and he’s proven that he’s more than worthy of being signed to a big contract, so Lou needs to put an end to the shenanigans and lock him down for a long period of time. Parise is the type of player who commands and deserves a cap hit of $7-8+ million per year. Lou needs to offer it now and see what the response is. If Parise is going to demand $9-10+ million per season then the process of negotiating and attempting to work it out needs to be initiated now rather than later. Decisions must be made prior to the deadline. If we can afford to keep him then do it and get it over with. If not, then it better be because Parise surprised us all by demanding an unreasonable amount of money for him to stay in NJ. If this is going to be the case, figure it out now. In the terrible situation in which it becomes evident that Parise will not be re-signing, then he needs to be dealt and we need to be compensated accordingly.

Those are my "questions begging for answers"; do you have any that I forgot or any of your own? Which do you think is the most glaring of questions? Do you agree/disagree with any of them? Thanks for your input.

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Why is it, that halfway through the season, I’m hearing more tidbits and details about the negotiations from JP Parise, Parise’s father, than I am hearing from Lou Lamoriello?

LL make a public comments about on-going contract negotiations? Forget it.

by Bobby V on Jan 13, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly. Lou is infamously tight-lipped when it comes to personnel matters. For all we know, talks have begun already, or will begin shortly, but we won’t know until a deal is imminent. I would imagine that any talks between Zach and Lou, Zach’s been told to keep his trap shut, lest he get jellied.

by Marty 4 Prez on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Giveaways

I don’t think the giveaway stat is really that great in measuring giveaways, I think it is better for measuring how often a player has the puck. Kovalchuk is on the ice a lot and has the puck a lot so he is going to end up with a lot of giveaways, just like Marty Brodeur has the most loses.

by wolfcaster on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

1. Has been said for a while, and I’m firmly in the camp of firing Oates and trying to get Carbonneau to join as he ran a pretty good pp if I recall.

2. Kovy and Parise can handle those minutes. They’ve been doing it for nearly their entire careers and it won’t suddenly stop being a good thing right now. Also, the 4th line is nonexistent because it sucks.

3. We don’t. Puck Daddy ran an article the other day, but the fighter-scorer is the new fighter in this NHL. If we need some toughness, I’d rather have Boulton than Janssen, or even bring Mills back up.

4. I don’t like the bottom two lines so much. Switch Teddy and Sharky and you’d be fine. Teddy’s defensive zone weakness can be covered by Clarky and Zajac, and Sharky is a good defensive player and can actually keep the puck in the offensive zone. The only thing we really don’t have with that are players who like to hit, and we need someone to step up and keep opposing teams honest.

5. I really hope Lou actually starts negotiations. If we can’t come to an agreement with Zach by the deadline, I’d be upset but at least we could trade him for pieces we need or for prospects/picks. I believe he’ll still stay but I’d rather trade him than lose him for nothing.

I think a big part of the negotiations is the financial state of the team. If everything is golden and all those reports are false, the Devils will be able to not only sign Parise, but go after a few good pieces this summer. Defensemen like Suter, Kuba, Jackman, and Coliacavo will be unrestricted, and we’ll have nearly 21 million to play with (not taking off any thing for Parise). We can definitely improve the backend and the bottom 6 with that kind of money.

by skly27 on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Five answers

1. Oates had better personnel in Tampa to work with than he does here. Not that the guys we have here are craptacular, but there’s more raw offensive talent in Tampa upon which to draw — especially on the blue line. You can be the finest coach in the world, your X’s and O’s can practically dance on the whiteboard, but if the talent isn’t there the results won’t follow.

2. Boston is not a particularly fair comparison — they have a depth of talent that few teams can accumulate in today’s salary capped and over-expanded NHL. The Devils don’t have good enough personnel to ice four solid lines (three is a stretch, especially with the team banged up as it is now), and it would be detrimental to results to put a crummy 4th line out there for extra minutes just for the sake of playing them more and other players less.

Would I like to see the ice time of the stars ramped down? Absolutely. Do I want to see more of (insert garbage 4th-line player here) on the ice? Absolutely not. When you look at the players we’re going to be working with, what PDB is doing now seems pretty darn fine.

3-4. I think much of the answer comes down to finances. There are a considerable number of signs out there that Vanderbeek and the franchise are in financial distress. There may not be money to make additional moves and bring guys onto this roster who aren’t already there.

Eric Boulton is on a one-way contract. There are no savings to be had by sending him down, and you’re apt to lose money in the process when you bring someone else up (especially if they’re on a two-way deal). Cam Janssen is apparantly a favorite of the coach, and has appeared in nearly every game when healthy, so I imagine he isn’t going anywhere unless Lou makes a unilateral decision to get rid of him.

With the other problems this team has, and in light of how PDB has employed the Bottom Six this season, worrying about the fourth line seems like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

5. There are a ton of potential reasons here, and I don’t see how we’re ever going to get anything resembling the true story for quite some time (if ever). Maybe it ties into the financial catastrophe that is Vanderbeek — and maybe we should have seen this debacle coming considering what happened to the company that made him rich. Maybe Zach doesn’t want to be here. Maybe the NHLPA is putting pressure on Parise and his agent to wring every last dollar out of the process.

Short of Lou and Parise (or their surrogates) exchanging barbs and broadsides in the press, we’re not likely to see through the “fog of war”. And since Lou doesn’t negotiate through the press or involve them in the process at all….

by acasser on Jan 13, 2012 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

I’d like to add another point to your #5- this is NJ, not a huge market like Philly or Toronto. If this was one of their players, you’d hear about this non-stop.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 13, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Parise is back, and arguably better than ever before

Is he now?

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by John Fischer on Jan 13, 2012 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Fair point. I honestly don’t remember even typing it, I originally typed this on my phone as fast as I could while on the train to NYC. Thinking about it now I realize it was probably foolish to imply he might be better than ever.

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by NJallDay on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

But is he?

Are his stats better/ on pace after 45 games?
http://devils.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470610

Goals: At 15 now, he’s roughly on pace for 28. Below previous years.
Assists: At 24 now, he’s roughly on pace for 43. Below previous years.
His +/- is only even now, at 0.
He is on pace to collect more PIM this year, almost by 2×. Maybe due to rule/ enforcement changes.
At 9.5%, his shooting percentage is a few clicks lower even though he’s gotten a roughly approximate amount of shots off.

Without getting into all the stats, I’d say he’s not better than before. There might be stylistic changes to the team/ coaching which have caused the drop, as well as not having his old pal Langenbrunner handy. But, that could mean his defensive play and backchecking have improved, as many have said of Kovalchuk.

by Alan Wright on Jan 19, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to point out that Lou made a change to his usual tactics two years ago when he made the Kovalchuk trade. Yes, this was the first opportunity of the sort that was available, and he had to pull the trigger to help the team. This falls under the same type of category of move that he made for Kovalchuk, but a little different in the situation.
Lou made the Kovalchuk deal because an elite offensive player was available, one that would help the team in the new offense-first league. Signing Parise to a long term deal would also be helping the team toward the goal of being an offensive power.
Now, I believe as some others probably do, that the reason Lou signed Parise to a long term deal this past summer was because he wanted to see that he could still play at the level that he previously has played at. I’m sure that Zach wanted a long-term deal, as it was the best for his career, but he agreed to the one year deal because Lou wouldn’t see it any other way. They had to of have had made an agreement of when to have contract talks. Zach wants to stay with the team, and probably wants a contract done before the season is over. It makes sense for talks to begin at the all star break. Zach wasn’t selected this year, and that gives him a chance to get a deal done. Wouldn’t it be less of a distraction to have a contract out of the way so he can just focus of playing his game? Yes, it would.
The all star break is also when it is likely that any purchase of part of the franchise is made by the owner of Wendy’s, which would allow for the team to pay off all of its debts, and pay for the Parise contract. It just all makes sense to coincide during the all star break.

by NJGuy on Jan 13, 2012 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Lou didn’t change his usual tactics? He’s swung deals for Doug Gilmour and Alexander Mogilny at the trade deadline to boost the team’s offense in the past. The difference is that Kovalchuk’s going to be around whereas Gilmour and Mogilny parted ways when their deals ended.

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by John Fischer on Jan 13, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, that may be so, but I’m talking about long term players, faces of the franchise.

by NJGuy on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Lou made a change to his usual tactics two years ago when he made the Kovalchuk trade

Actually, it has been rather standard fare for Lou Lamoriello to make significant trades at the deadline in an attempt to upgrade the team. John pointed out Mogilny and Gilmour above, so I won’t re-hash those two here. He’s brought in All-Star defensemen around the deadline (Phil Housley in 1996, Vladimir Malakhov in 2000). He’s brought in other prominent forwards, too (Dave Andreychuk in 1996, Peter Stastny in 1990 would fall into this category). When there isn’t a big move available at a price Lou finds palatable, he usually tinkers around the edges by bringing in depth players to round out the roster (Stephane Richer in 2002, fillers such as Ken Klee or Martin Skoula in more recent years).

Lou signed Parise to a long term deal this past summer was because he wanted to see that he could still play at the level that he previously has played at. I’m sure that Zach wanted a long-term deal, as it was the best for his career, but he agreed to the one year deal because Lou wouldn’t see it any other way

The official story is that the two sides ran out of time to negotiate the long-term deal and signed a one-year contract as to avoid the arbitration process. Whether that’s true or whether it’s a big steaming pile of manure is anyone’s guess, because Lou doesn’t speak to the media and Parise hasn’t contradicted the tale. We went through this chapter and verse on ILWT this summer.

Maybe the story is the gospel truth. Maybe one side or the other didn’t want a long-term deal. Maybe the team’s finances had some say in this. The fact of the matter is that we have no clue. Anyone who says otherwise either has access to information that the rest of us don’t or they’re pulling comments out of their rear end.

They had to of have had made an agreement of when to have contract talks. Zach wants to stay with the team, and probably wants a contract done before the season is over.

This is nothing but idle speculation with nothing in the way of facts to support it. Heck, I’ll call the first one complete fiction based on the lack of anything substantive on the contract front, even though we’re nearly two weeks past the time when Parise and the Devils could finalize an extension and file it with the League under the CBA rules.

Parise says he wants to stay with the team. As a Devils’ fan who wants the best for the franchise, I hope and pray that this is true. At the same time, I’m cynical enough to know that this could simply be Parise’s way of hedging his bets and “saying the right thing”. There’s nothing to be gained by openly asking out, unless he’s so intent on being somewhere “not New Jersey” (and as soon as humanly possible) that he doesn’t mind destroying his image and creating a situation where Lou would be obligated to move him quickly (and at cut-rate prices).

If you want to see a guy so intent on getting out of Dodge that he’ll napalm every bridge and push his GM to make a trade, look no further than the Mike Cammalleri saga in Montreal.

It makes sense for talks to begin at the all star break.

The one-year deal was signed in July. It makes absolutely no sense to defer contract talks for more than six months if the goal for both sides is to get Parise’s signature on the dotted line. If Parise didn’t return to form after a significant knee injury, his value crashes and that long-term contract loses both years and dollars-per. If the Devils dilly-dally, they risk losing Parise for any number of reasons as free agency looms…. and you also risk the whole circus that surrounds a pending UFA of his caliber if he returns to form. You also run into a situation where there’s a serious time crunch, as there isn’t a lot of time between the ASG and the trade deadline during which many decisions have to be made.

Zach wasn’t selected this year, and that gives him a chance to get a deal done.

Hogwash.

Much of the negotiation is likely to not involve Zach Parise at all. The primary movers and shakers will involve Devils’ management — most likely Lou Lamoriello, but perhaps others — and it will involve Parise’s agent. This isn’t a situation comparable to Martin Brodeur, who negotiated his own contracts and extensions without an agent. If the Devils make an offer, I imagine Wade Arnott (I think that’s the right name) will relay the specifics to Parise and perhaps even a recommendation. Parise can then accept, reject, or ask for time to think about it…. but I don’t see why the All-Star Game and Parise’s (non) selection would have any impact. Parise’s a big boy, I imagine he can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time — which is to say I suspect he could mull over a contract offer while he practices, plays hockey, drives to and from the arena, takes his afternoon nap, or whatever else he does.

The all star break is also when it is likely that any purchase of part of the franchise is made by the owner of Wendy’s, which would allow for the team to pay off all of its debts, and pay for the Parise contract. It just all makes sense to coincide during the all star break.

The All-Star Break would be a time when the League’s Board of Governors could get together to vote upon and approve (or reject) a sale. If the owner of Wendy’s — or any other fabulously wealthy person/conglomerate of interest — wants to agree upon a deal to purchase the club, they can do it whenever all the parties in question come to a deal.

….

When it comes down to brass tacks, the All-Star Break is a completely arbitrary point in time as far as the Parise contract is concerned. It really has no greater or lesser significance than almost every other individual date on the calendar between now and the trade deadline.

by acasser on Jan 13, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to say that I was absolutely giddy as I was reading through your response. I am extremely happy to have such a large response from somebody like you who always respond thoroughly and accurately to comments here on In Lou We Trust. Thank you.

I will admit that I did use some personal feelings in my previous comment, as it is what I do feel is in the best interest of the team. I understand that I am posting my personal opinions, so therefore I have opened them to being refuted, but I will do the best I can to defend my opinions. I do also admit not all of my opinions are correct, but again they are what I feel, so I will still defend them.

Actually, it has been rather standard fare for Lou Lamoriello to make significant trades at the deadline in an attempt to upgrade the team.

Yes, it is something that Lou always does to help the team out. I was just trying to highlight the Kovalchuk trade as that it is a fairly recent trade, and that it was a major trade, as it involved one of the top players in the NHL. Even though we basically traded away a magical bag of beans so to speak, as what we traded away had lesser value than what we gained.

The reason I was trying to highlight this particular trade was that Kovalchuk undoubtedly is one of the best players on our team. Perhaps not the best, but one of the best. He still is what we traded for, being a major upgrade to the offense, although he isn’t exactly lighting it up this year, but he is a major upgrade over what we previously had.

Here is my reasoning for why I could connect this to Parise’s contract situation. It is undeniable that it is in the team’s best interests to have as many top players as possible that contribute night in and night out. Parise is one of those type of players. Now, would it not be best for Lou to lock up Parise for the next number of years as soon as possible? He could very well wait for the offseason, and Zach to be in free agency, but he has the oppourtunity to sign him to an extension during the season. Lou typically does not do this however. On the contrary, he has the chance to talk contract during the All Star break. Why should he do this? Well, Zach was not selected to play in the all star game, and unless he wishes to travel to Ottawa to watch, it would provide an excellent few days to try to negotiate a contract with Zach and his representatives, as it wouldn’t affect Zach while he is playing games. I understand that you said this:

Much of the negotiation is likely to not involve Zach Parise at all. The primary movers and shakers will involve Devils’ management — most likely Lou Lamoriello, but perhaps others — and it will involve Parise’s agent.

Of course this is true(not that you need me of all people to declare that), and anybody that tries to dispute it would be a fool unless Zach himself comes out and negotiates his contract himself. All that I am trying to say is that the All Star break would be an opportune time for negotiations to happen between the new party. I admit that it is speculation, but that is what speculation cause people to do, try to predict and make sense of things.

The official story is that the two sides ran out of time to negotiate the long-term deal and signed a one-year contract as to avoid the arbitration process. Whether that’s true or whether it’s a big steaming pile of manure is anyone’s guess…

… The fact of the matter is that we have no clue. Anyone who says otherwise either has access to information that the rest of us don’t or they’re pulling comments out of their rear end.

Once again, I’ll admit that what I said is speculation. I would be the first to say that. Yes, we all went over it during the summer, and I don’t wish to revisit all of the different theories because as you said it, it is all speculation as we don’t know the details.

The All-Star Break would be a time when the League’s Board of Governors could get together to vote upon and approve (or reject) a sale. If the owner of Wendy’s — or any other fabulously wealthy person/conglomerate of interest — wants to agree upon a deal to purchase the club, they can do it whenever all the parties in question come to a deal.

Yes, that is why I brought up that it could happen during the All Star break. I personally would think that a resolution to the team’s financial troubles could be made known here. Again, that is my opinion. My thinking is that Vanderbeek would want to settle his debts as soon as possible. The fact that he owns the vast majority of the team (somewhere in the 80% area), could mean that he would be willing to sell off part of his stock in the team to a new minority owner. This very well may be the owner of Wendy’s as it has been speculated, or could be somebody else as you previously have said. The fact of the matter is that Vanderbeek may have trouble holding onto ownership of the team unless he either alters the team’s tv deal as has been speculated, or he sells a portion (I suppose that he would very much like to hold onto the majority ownership of the team) of the team. Once again, it would be best to settle his debts quickly as it would bring stability to the team and could eliminate an obstacle that may prevent a large extension that would have financial impacts on the team. This again is speculation, and I’m only trying to make sense of this.

I apologize that I didn’t fully backup my positions with details, but again, most of this is either speculation by myself or my personal opinions that I’m trying to make sense with.
Thank you for reading my response, and I will welcome any other response to my comment.
Thank you.

by NJGuy on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Everyone’s ignoring how the power play has gotten better since the acquisition of Kurtis Foster. The problem with the power play isn’t going to go away by firing the coach.

2. Kovalchuk’s fine, he can handle the minutes. I’d prefer it if he got fewer, but the 4th line is so bad.

3. Lou signed both guys and the coach keeps putting both in the lineup. That’s not a satisfactory answer, but it’s what’s going on.

4. See above.

5. With the Devils’ financial and ownership problems it’s not likely that Parise can be signed until those get settled. Parise may not re-sign even if they are resolved.

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by Triumph44 on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

1. Everyone’s ignoring how the power play has gotten better since the acquisition of Kurtis Foster. The problem with the power play isn’t going to go away by firing the coach.

I don’t have the official numbers but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Devils PP % is around the 20-25% range on the last 7 games.
Those would be elite numbers.

Though I’m not sure the improvement has really something to do with Kurtis Foster. Seriously, he’s experienced, makes almost no mistakes but I thought he was disappointing on the PP.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 13, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Since Foster’s arrival, the Power Play has scored on 8 of 42 opportunities, including 3 of 7 on the current road trip.

by acasser on Jan 13, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just saying I’ve seen nothing in Foster’s missed shots and passes that could make an obvious difference.

On the other hand, the accurate connection between Elias and Kovalchuk on the PP looks more authentic in my opinion.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 13, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

larsson was horrible on the point, that’s what’s becoming clear. foster has hit the net a bunch of times – i don’t think foster is very good, mind you, but the power play has improved in shots/60 and PP%.

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by Triumph44 on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I agree that with Foster things look less bad than before. It was definitely time for the Devils PP to get an experienced guy to play the right point anyway.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I know Foster’s taken at least a couple of bad shots that have rebounded right back to center ice where they’ve been taken for shorthanded goals. Just because he has a big shot doesn’t mean he’s good on the PP.

by KenKen on Jan 14, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i don’t think he’s particularly good on the power play either, but he’s certainly way better than adam larsson, who had the same problem except that he was terrible at getting his shot to the net. already foster is credited with 14 shots on the 5 on 4 power play, larsson had 7.

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by Triumph44 on Jan 14, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

he’s experienced, makes almost no mistakes

Playing the point on PP, otherwise he’s unreliable at evens.

"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"

by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 13, 2012 9:00 PM EST reply actions  

FIRE OATES

don’t even care about the rest so much as I care about Oates getting fired.

by KenKen on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

and that will do what?

"Its the letter D"

by Rory B. Bellows on Jan 14, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

…potentially fix the power play?

It can’t get much worse, so a change that has the ability to completely reverse it’s fortunes is better than no change at all.

by skly27 on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Goaltending is a Major liability

The Devils have a a good team this year, but the goaltending is a HUGE liability
Brodeurs game has really dropped off, his save % isn’t NHL worthy anymore.
.885 is not NHL caliber
he’s facing 20-25 shots a night and letting in 3-5 goals.
The consistency isn’t there, and the Devils will waste this season if they cannot get a goalie

would like to see them trade for Corey Schneider, jaroslav halak or bostons Tukka rask

by canuck901 on Jan 21, 2012 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

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