The New Jersey Devils Third and Fourth Line Situation
The NHL is nearing the all-star break, and this year the Devils' fan base is having a much different conversation. Rather than being in the basement of the Eastern Conference, the Devils are fighting to stay in the playoff race. There have been talks about signing/trading Parise, the post season, and a host of other topics that are much more positive than last year. Except the Devils' financial situation. Right now, I'm optimistic that the Devils will make a post season run. After last year, I could care less how far it goes, I just think a lot of the players on the Devils roster can benefit from some playoff experience. Also, since all signs are pointing towards Josefson being healthy and Zajac nearing a return, will the Devils be a better more consistent team?
This season has been quite a battle, or lack thereof on the fourth line. Much of the season we have seen Boulton - Carter / Mills / Sestito - Janssen. If you weren't a Devils fan, you would think the Devils would just opt to cycle three lines. Not the case. DeBoer has chosen to give everyone a chance. I can only imagine DeBoer leaning over the bench to tell the fourth line; "just go out there and have fun!" because that's what it looks like sometimes. Now that the Devils have four NHL ready centers that are almost healthy, what should we expect? After the jump, check out what the Devils' fourth line can look like down the stretch and into the playoffs.
Clearly the Devils top six forwards are lined up. The Parise, Henrique, Kovalchuk line and the throwback line of Sykora, Elias, and Zubrus. After that, the next two lines are fairly unclear. Rather than speculating, I'll put their stats below, and then you can make up your own mind as to who belongs on which line.
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PPG |
Rel Corsi |
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R |
26 |
4 |
3 |
7 |
0.269 |
-7 |
-9.8 |
12 |
38 |
10.5 |
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|
R |
43 |
1 |
5 |
6 |
0.140 |
-15 |
-4.9 |
16 |
46 |
2.2 |
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R |
Cam Janssen |
35 |
0 |
1 |
1 |
0.029 |
-4 |
-6.5 |
55 |
11 |
0 |
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R |
4 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0.000 |
-2 |
-44.2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
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L |
24 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0.000 |
-8 |
-21.6 |
45 |
15 |
0 |
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|
C |
37 |
2 |
2 |
4 |
0.108 |
-13 |
-10.1 |
52 |
24 |
8.3 |
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|
C |
22 |
0 |
1 |
1 |
0.045 |
-7 |
-7.4 |
13 |
15 |
0 |
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C |
6 |
0 |
1 |
1 |
0.167 |
1 |
18.7 |
2 |
4 |
0 |
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|
C |
18 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0.000 |
-5 |
-8.7 |
7 |
6 |
0 |
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C |
6 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0.000 |
-2 |
0.5 |
0 |
4 |
0 |
The first thing to note from this table is that all of the players have played almost a quarter of a season except for Vladimir Zharkov, Steven Zalewski, and Jacob Josefson. So almost everyone has had time to prove they belong in the NHL. Josefson's season was cut short by an injury, for those of you who are out of the loop. I'm not entirely sure why Zharkov hasn't been given opportunities like the rest of the players I listed. Steven Zalewski is a more recent call up, so the Devils are trying to shake up their fourth line. I believe this is for the better of the team.
If we just look at just production, Palmieri stands out with four goals and three assists through 26 games. The next most productive of these ten players is Tedenby with 1 goal and 5 assists after playing 43 games. Neither forward is a stand out third liner, but they have also played with weak line mates. My educated guess is that the Devils third line would be Tedenby - Zajac - Clarkson. Why Tedenby over Palmieri? Tedenby plays hard and always seems to be skating hard and battling in the corner. I also think Devils management likes him a little better than Palmieri and he will most likely benefit from playing with Zajac and Clarkson than with fourth liners. Therefore he will stay on the third line.
That leaves us with nine skaters to make a line of three. Before I reveal what I believe the fourth line will consists of I will put this disclaimer. Every NHL team has a tough guy. Somewhere along the line, the NHL GMs and coaches all decided that fighting is a necessity, therefore a fourth line will almost certainly have a large, strong player who can not necessarily play hockey. The Devils fourth line will likely consist of Janssen - Josefson - Palmieri. Now, if I was coach, I would substitute Carter for Janssen. Carter is less of a liability and actually has skill with the puck, not his fists.
The good news is that the Devils have several interchangeable fourth liners who could blossom playing with Josefson/Palmieri. Will they? It would be pure speculation if I say anything, but yea, I think Zalewski and Zharkov could show some signs of an NHLer if they have decent line mates. Barring injuries *knocking on wood*, the Devils fourth line will no longer be an atrocity. It may even surprise a few of us. The Devils are getting healthy with enough time for a little chemistry to develop between their lower lines and hopefully help drive the Devils into a good position come playoffs.
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My educated guess is that the Devils third line would be Tedenby – Zajac – Clarkson. Why Tedenby over Palmieri? Tedenby plays hard and always seems to be skating hard and battling in the corner.
Thank you.
With Zajac and JJ back, our team has considerable forward depth, as long as PDB throws the right personnel out there each night.
Please Pete, no Janssen ever. Even Boulton is a better option in my opinion. I’d prefer a Palms – JJ – Zharky line…that would be sick. We would easily be as deep as Boston in rolling 4 competent lines at that point.
by SatanicStickholders on Jan 19, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions
No shot Josefson plays on the 4th line. The organization loves him too much to do something like that to him. I say he plays 3rd line LW with Zajac and Clarkson until the following happens:
1. Injuries to the top 6.
2. Ineffectiveness in the top 6
3. He plays so ridiculously well that PDB starts to try him with others.
4. Zajac gets injured again.
5. PDB “shakes things up”
I can’t wait until we actually have a real 3rd line.
my 2 cents
Josefson is a pure center like Zajac
Josefson should center the 3rd line unless someone like Zharkov’s called up for dressing a real 4th line (10-12 minutes/game)
Henrique or Elias could be moved out of position
Henrique must be moved on the wing
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 19, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Moving Elias is the last thing I would do. The guy is tied for 2nd in gvt for all skaters right at this moment. Now gvt has its flaws but you don’t mess with someone producing at such an elite level just to make room for guys coming off injury.
Moving Elias is the last thing I would do.
Me too. Me too. Me too. Me too. Me too. Me too. Me too. Me too.
"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"
by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 19, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Good article.
I really see us having at least three scoring lines when Zajac and Josefson back. I don’t know about how Josefson would be playing on the fourth line, but perhaps it would be more a of 3a and 3b situation. Although I love Tedenby and think that he should be given the best opportunity to succeed, I would really love for him to play with Josefson. Playing with Zajac would be great for him, but until he comes back, he should definitely be playing with Josefson. During the time with Josefson, hopefully they can form some chemistry, and perhaps they should stay together.
Anyway, what I’m envisioning would be sort of like this:
First two lines stay the same.
then.
Carter/Mills-Zajac/Clarkson
Tedenby-Josefson-Palmeri
I personally would like to see lines 1a and 1b, splitting up Zach and Kovy, which would better utilize our new wealth of forwards.
What I’m thinking is that perhaps Lou will swing a deal to land a veteran or even a younger player for a few of the extras that we have. We know that Lou likes to add pieces, and having some extra fourth liners would enable to trade a few for a better player if another team is willing to trade. Who knows, we’ll just have to wait and find out.
The thing is we have had the personnel available for a good fourth line for the entire season, and yet DeBoer has continued to ice Janssen and Boulton. Even if Zharkov wasn’t producing in the AHL, he would still be far more deserving of a place on the fourth line than either of those two goons. But the fact is that Zharkov has been producing this year. Why, oh why, is he still languishing in the AHL? It’s a travesty in my opinion, and I use that word with no hint of exaggeration.
We have the players. It’s just a matter of willingness on the part of the coach.
Agree with you there Witt...
We could have 4 competitive lines TONIGHT. It’s not just a pipe dream. There really is no reason to dress the guys DeBoer has been dressing.
by SatanicStickholders on Jan 19, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Would rather see Boulton-Carter-Mills tonight
No reason to play Cam, Boulton is much better.
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by Real Big Devils Fan on Jan 19, 2012 5:46 PM EST reply actions
My Lines...
Parise-Zajac-Henrique
Kovalchuk-Elias-Sykora
Zubrus-Josefson-Clarkson
Tendenby-Carter-Palmieri
What you guys think…
Just switch Sykora with Zubrus and all is ok.
"It's magic, it's tragic, it's a loss, it's a win"
by Elektrostal_Kid on Jan 19, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Parise – Henrique – Kovy
Zubrus – Elias – Sykora
Tedenby – Zajac – Clarkson
Carter – Josefson – Palmieri
by undersuspicion426 on Jan 19, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions
Not bad but...
Zharkov > Carter.
by SatanicStickholders on Jan 19, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Once Greene comes back healthy I wonder if they would consider dressing 7 defenseman. It might actually be the best option.
Also, I think guys like Janssen and Boulton will get some playing time in the regular season but you wont see them once playoffs start.
Also, in the playoffs you don’t have to worry about burning an ELC year or development of a player or a young player getting to few minutes. Just dress your 20 best players.
I’ve been saying this all year. If someone like Foster or Fayne or (god forbid) Larsson has to sit because of a jobber like Cam Janssen I’ll throw a fit.
I thoroughly agree, but that’s the NHL, they feel the need to “protect” their stars. But I thought the refs were there for that?
by Matt Evans SNC on Jan 19, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Shanahan is in charge of protecting players now – he is the judge, jury, and executioner. Bettman is the Queen he serves.
by SatanicStickholders on Jan 19, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions

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