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2/20/12 New Jersey Devils Prospect Update: Looking at Trade Deadline D-Men Targets, 2nd Round Pick Availability


T-Minus 7 days until the trade deadline! After the jump I update statistics for the NCAA/CHL/AHL players, take an in-depth look at potential trade deadline defensive targets and after last week's trades see who has 2nd round picks still available. As with past trade deadlines the 2nd round pick is the usual return in a deadline deal for a rental player.

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There was a flurry of trades at the end of last week that saw players like Pavel Kubina & Nicklas Grossman go to the Flyers, Dominic Moore go to the Sharks, and Hal Gill go to Nashville. The typical return in these deals centered around the typical trade commodity, a 2nd round pick. Before we look at potential trade targets for the Devils, let's take a look at what teams have draft picks that the 'sellers' of the NHL would want for their UFAs.

As we all should be aware, the Devils have two picks in the 2nd round right now, their own and Washington's (via the Jason Arnott trade last year). Right now, only the Devils and Phoenix (Ottawa's 2nd) are teams that you would consider 'buyers', teams who have multiple 2nd round picks in the 2012 draft. After the trades of last week, the teams with access to both their 2nd round pick and are poised to make the playoffs are down to a handful. If we use SportsClubStats.com's recent projections of the teams likeliest to make the playoffs in the Eastern Conference, only the Devils, Rangers and Penguins have their 2nd round picks. In the Western Conference you have a few more teams as 5 of 8 teams (Phoenix, St. Louis, Vancouver, Chicago, and Detroit) have their 2nd round picks.

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So, while they aren't alone in having the right assets to facilitate a trade, the Devils are right there with everyone else should they want to make a deal, and have a more attractive 2nd round pick to offer (Washington's) than the other teams.

Some other fun draft picks facts right now:

The San Jose Sharks only have one pick in the first four rounds of the draft, their first rounder. The LA Kings after they make a panic trade for Rick Nash will likely only have their 4th round pick. On the other end of the spectrum Tampa Bay could have four 2nd round picks.

OK, so the Devils have the right assets to make a trade....now who is still out there?

Assuming the target of a trade would be a defenseman (as reported by multiple outlets, most recently by Tom Gulitti), I've looked at players who might be available to the Devils via trade. Below I put together a list of defensemen who are likely to be available and added some of the statistics that I look at when trying to get a sense of a player on another team.

By looking at a player's on-ice CORSI, his offensive zone starts, even-strength/penalty kill time-on-ice and points I think you can get a sense of how that player is being used by his team. Corsi, a counting stat that reveals puck possession, tells us the difference of how many shots are directed at the net, both for and against. The higher the number the better. Offensive Zone Starts (O-Zone) tells us where a coach deployed his player. The more trustworthy defensive players have a lower percentage while defensemen who struggle in their own zone or are much better offensively than their fellow defensemen have a high one. This is a good way to see how a coach protects some of his less talented players. Ice-time stats are pretty straightforward with the players who are trusted by a coach seeing more even strength/penalty kill time.

(Also, since the Devils are rumored to have financial issues I added money owed to the player for the rest of the season.) Tradedeadlined_large

Trades are completed for a reason: to improve a team. There is no reason to make a trade for the sake of a trade (even though trades are fun). Any defensive acquisition should offer an upgrade over Foster and/or Taormina. And assuming either Larsson or Tallinder can return this season (likely in Larsson's case, questionable in Tallinder's) that means there is one open slot available for upgrade. Let's take a look at how Foster/Taormina compare to the players above:

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Looking at Foster/Taormina's comparable numbers above, I think players like Spacek and Campoli would be lateral moves...at best.

Now let's look at the other players:

Mark Eaton: An acquisition that would provide playoff experience, Eaton can be a nice addition to provide similar type play as a Bryce Salvador/Anton Volchenkov and contribute to the penalty kill if necessary.

Greg Zanon: To reiterate the points HockeyWilderness made here, Zanon doesn't offer the same 'name' value that a Hal Gill does, but provides similar services and is probably better than Gill at this point. Don't judge him by his Corsi, but rather look at the fact that Minnesota utilized him in the defensive zone much more than the offensive zone. Zanon could be a nice acquisition to partner with a more mobile defenseman like a Larsson or Foster.

Bryan Allen: If Lou Lamoriello is looking for the best shutdown defender on the market, look no further. Fantastic Hurricanes blog Shutdownline.com speculates the cost for Allen might be in the Gill/Kubina range and likely more. It should be.

Filip Kuba: The Senators would have to really struggle down the stretch for him to be available. He wouldn't be a huge upgrade on the third pairing, but he can generate points, play the PK unit and holds his own at even-strength play. Again, I doubt he is available, but if he is, he provides a good fall back option should the Devils miss out on the Allens/Zanons of the world.

Johnny Oduya: Oduya, at the end of his contract that the Devils gave to him before shipping him to Atlanta in the Ilya Kovalchuk trade, would likely be available should Winnipeg fall out of the playoff race. Knowing the organization and potentially pairing him with old teammates like Andy Greene or Bryce Salvador would make Oduya an acquisition who wouldn't take time to acclimate to his new surroundings.

But a return to New Jersey wouldn't just be for nostalgia's sake. Oduya can log plenty of minutes at even-strength and on the penalty kill. If Tallinder does not return this year, then I think that Oduya would be the perfect replacement. We all know Lamoriello likes old faces, and I can't help but think Oduya might make a return to New Jersey in the next week if Winnipeg struggles.

Sheldon Souray: Another former Devil, Souray offers a bomb of a shot and still contributes enough defensively to log 15+ minutes at even-strength. If utilized in advantagous situations like a Foster/Taormina would normally be, Souray could be a savvy acquisition at the deadline, assuming the Stars remain sellers and that there are no long-term concerns about the foot injury from which he is recovering.

Jordon Leopold/Lubimir Vishnovsky: Are they even available? I doubt it, but if they are I hope the Devils look to them as top 4 defensemen who can add a puck rushing/moving element to the defensive corps they currently don't have. They both have extra years on their current deals (a manageable $3MM each) which could make the cost to trade for them prohibitive.

If Buffalo is looking to clean house a bit after their struggles this year, they might be able to part with Leopold. Anaheim on the other hand is in the midst of a strong resurgence in the second half of the season and might just hold Vishnovsky and their other tradable assets with hope of leap frogging the teams in front of them to make the playoffs.

Marek Zidlicky: Well, we know he wants to play here so that's a good start. I still have a hard time thinking that Lamoriello is targeting Zidlicky, mainly because of the remaining year left on his contract at a hefty $4MM. Even with his contract situation I am still a bit interested to see how he would play here. If he is acquired you can assume that Jacques Lemaire gave Lamoriello the 'Jacques Lemaire Seal of Approval'.

Even with the Lemaire Seal of Approval once his agent openly tried to push Zidlicky on the Devils, his agent likely shut the door on that option. If I remember correctly, the last player who had Devil trade rumors around him that actually was moved to the Devils was Doug Gilmour. That was over 15 years ago!

Assuming he is still an option, I think that if you ask Zidlicky to give you 15 solid minutes of even-strength play per night, along with time on the power play, the Devils could put him in a position to be successful. My concern would be the price, both to acquire him and to have him on the roster next season.

Considering his price tag for next season, I am not sure what type of package I would give up to acquire him. I can't see giving up a premium pick/prospect for a player who will lock up $4MM of cap space next year.

So who will the Devils acquire, if anyone? Which of the options above do you like/dislike? Did I miss anyone you think will be available?

That's it for this week, please leave any prospect related questions or comments below.

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I know Taormina’s Corsi isn’t great for a guy who starts a lot in the offensive zone, but I can’t help but like his puck-moving ability.

So Taormina, Foster, Greene and hopefully Larsson provide enough “offensive” defensemen for me, personally. The only player I would agree that the Devils should acquire is Greg Zanon. I agree that he’d be a solid and cheap addition. Salvador, A-Train and Zanon would be enough as far as shutdown D-men go where I would feel good about the blue line.

Obviously, that makes Foster the 7th D-man/4th line winger, which is what Montreal did with M.A. Bergeron in their playoff run in 2010. I wouldn’t be opposed to NJ doing the same with Foster, especially because teams rarely fight in the playoffs, so Boulton/Janssen have literally ZERO value come April. If worse came to worse, they could dress 7 D-men and rotate Kovy/Parise or even Elias and double-shift them with the 4th liners.

The Devils should not give up any roster players at this point (at least that have value). They’re going to get Ryan Carter back for the 4th line, they’ll get Larsson back (hopefully 100%) and hopefully Zajac will be healthy and ready to go around mid-March. That’s a nice trade deadline right there.

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by DownGoesAvery on Feb 20, 2012 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

I like the play of tao too, Greene has done a great job of puck moving too. I dont like picking up a D with more than a year left because we have young D that I want to see get a shot next season on the bottom pair. If anyone I think Oduya may be the best option. But honestly I dont think we need to add anyone. Poni has been a great pick up already

by kovyissexy on Feb 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

questionable in Tallinder’s

I still have yet to see why some people feel he won’t be back. He’s got a perfectly treatable problem and was diagnosed way back in mid-January. Sure, clots can be a tricky thing, but really, if he’s skating 4 weeks in and tomorrow marks 5 weeks since he was injured (I believe), he’ll be back late March at the absolute latest.

by skly27 on Feb 20, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

Precisely because they’re a tricky thing. It’s a potentially life-threatening condition; it’s not something you fool around with.

by elesias on Feb 20, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Kuba’s the best guy of the bunch (big, decent puck mover, can play some defense), but I highly doubt Ottawa’s moving him while they’re still alive in the playoff race.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

This is an excellent way of looking at who’s available. I’m pretty confident Kuba’s not leaving Ottawa since the Sens are in a playoff position; and I don’t think Dallas will make any moves while they’re still in contention. I want to say the same thing regarding the Jets, but who knows.

I don’t think the Devils really need to add anyone. The return of Larsson alone would be big and while the Devils defense isn’t necessarily a stalwart crew, they’ve been very effective in the big picture. Zanon and Allen would be nice pickups if Lou believes another defender is needed. Leopold is a real interesting option and if he wasn’t owed $3 million next year, I’d be highlighting that name. But then, so would several other teams.

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by John Fischer on Feb 20, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

I watched the Minny game yesterday and the NBC announcers were ragging on Zidlicky a ton. The best was basically “Marek, if you want to get traded, put down twitter and play better”.

I like Tao and was impressed with Harrold yesterday (first time I’ve gotten to see him play). If Tallinder can’t come back this year, then maybe a shutdown D is needed, but I’m ok with the current group.

by NJHockey8 on Feb 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

The announcers are your typical North American goobers. Not that I think Zidlicky played well – he didn’t – but I’m pretty sure he didn’t tweet anything about wanting to go to New Jersey. This is like when Joe Morgan claimed that Billy Beane wrote Moneyball.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Real nice analysis Tom, just wish for one more thing – relative Corsi. These players all look relatively worse because they play on bad teams. Take Zanon for instance. When I was looking into Zidlicky’s numbers I noticed Minnesota as a whole has terrible puck possession numbers. Zanon wouldn’t look bad at all when you put it in that context.

I think Zanon and Oduya are the most likely, and I would have no objection to them. I don’t think the Devils will be in the running for Allen, nor do I think they should pay that price for a rental this year. I also don’t have an objection to Zidlicky as long as he comes dirt cheap.

Visnovsky won’t be traded until the summer, at the earliest, because the Ducks are playing so well. Leopold is okay but I think I’d prefer the extra cap flexibility in the summer.

by dr(d)evil on Feb 20, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

I wish that Foster could play forward capably – he is such a disaster in his own end, but the power play has gotten way better since he’s been here. I don’t think the Devils have the horses to hide him though, and that’s going to be an issue. Notice how last night without Foster, Taormina’s pairing was a huge + in Fenwick and he got 5 shots on goal – coincidental, but not totally accidental.

Given that Zidlicky is clearly unhappy in Minnesota, I don’t think it will take anything significant to pry him loose if that’s the direction the Devils are looking to go. I wouldn’t want any of these other guys except maybe Zanon, but that seems rather greedy.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 20, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Devils stay put.

by Bobby V on Feb 20, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

me neither. with the lineup we have right now completely healthy, and with all the chemistry that has developed this year, i think we have a pretty deep team

by Zubrus on Feb 20, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade Deadline

I don’t think the Devils need to add a defenseman to the roster at this point. What I do think they need is a solid fourth line that can play the game, much as the third line is doing. Cam Janssen may be a nice guy and tries his best, but he lacks the skill to be effective. The same can be said about Eric Boulton. His skill level is above Cam’s, but he is more of a liability than an asset.

A Ponikarovsky type of player is all they need to firm up that fourth line, and not have to double shift Kovy there. Josefson is looking better every game, and needs skill guys on his line to be more effective. There are enough kids in Albany who can be the third forward on this line if there is a savvy veteran presence on one of the wings.

by Barry G on Feb 20, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

After watching last night’s game and seeing just how close we were to losing Volchcenkov I think picking up some depth for cheap couldn’t hurt. A deal like a Skoula’s that can be had for mid range draft pick (thanks LP3).

How about Shane O’Brien from Colorado? Big body at 6-3, 230, currently averaging 19:03 a game, 34 playoff games in the last 3 years and would cost $237,838 after the deadline.

by NJmetal15 on Feb 20, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Not a bad option, similar to Eaton, perhaps a bit better. The question is whether or not the Avs will become sellers. They are right in the mix in the West and Duchene is coming back soon.

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by Tom Stivali on Feb 21, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Whether or not they will be sellers is indeed the biggest question. They are 3-5-2 in their last ten. They have a big game vs. LA on Wednesday, Columbus on Friday and Detroit on Saturday. They could go 1-2 before the deadline and combined with some points by Dallas, Minnesota and Anaheim could be enough for them to become sellers. All the teams around them also have a game in-hand. They also could go 3-0 and all the other teams lose, so anything can happen.

by NJmetal15 on Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Are any of these guys really worth a 2nd-round pick to us? Are any of them going to be much more than what Kurtis Foster and Matt Taormina are providing us now? Also, does forking over one (or both) of our 2nd-round picks in a trade this year make it harder to potentially give up our 1st-round pick to satisfy the Kovalchuk penalties?

I’ve stumped for Lubomir Visnovsky a few times, but I’ve seen some pretty thorough demolitions of what he might be able to provide us on this site. I’m also not convinced that Anaheim is going to be selling parts, so that’s probably a non-starter.

In short, I don’t see a good reason to make a trade unless it’s the Skoula depth-type trade where the Devils give up something further back in the draft. The return from injury of Larsson and Zajac and Tallinder (hopefully in the case of the latter two) will be as good as adding parts through trade and without having to part with assets.

by acasser on Feb 20, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

For brevity’s sake I didn’t speculate on who would be worth a 2nd round pick but I would think a guy like Eaton could be had for a 3rd or 4th. Spacek the same thing.

It’s when you are looking at guys like Johnny O or Souray when I think a 2nd round pick would be the primary return.

As far as the first round penalty is concerned I think the Devils can deal their own 2nd round pick in a deal, hope Washington continues their plunge down the standings and end up with a pick from #35-#45 that could make it easier to give up that first round pick this year.

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by Tom Stivali on Feb 21, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Kyle Quincey

I’m having trouble contacting to certain sites where i am currently so pardon me if i have some info wrong as I’m just going from memory here. I’m surprised I don’t see Kyle Quincey’s name in here. Offensive d-man, last year on his contract and on a team while still sort of contending for the 8th seed I think will be out of contention by the deadline.

Plus the Devils have a history with trading with teams they have played in the Cup finals. Well really mainly Anaheim and Dallas, but maybe it’s Colorado’s turn for a trade?

by Zelepukin on Feb 20, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Quincey is an RFA, I don’t really see why Colorado would have an interest in dealing him.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 20, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

My mistake then. I thought he was an UFA.

by Zelepukin on Feb 21, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Except they just did. Then again, Colorado got back Steve Downie, who I think is a pretty solid 2nd/3rd line forward in the David Clarkson mold — even if his best numbers came from riding the coattails of Steven Stamkos and Martin St. Louis.

If the price for a Quincey-type defenseman is a solid 2nd line forward or a 1st round pick, I’m not interested in shopping in that particular market. Too rich for my blood, IMO.

by acasser on Feb 21, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t call Downie a solid 2nd line forward – he’s a tweener. Even so, Quincey is basically another Andy Greene.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 21, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Downie in a number of ways reminds me of David Clarkson, although Downie is far more prone to dropping the gloves. Although, I imagine there are higher expectations for Downie given his draft position (IIRC, he was a 9th-overall pick by Philly).

by acasser on Feb 22, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lou Lams

I wonder if LL will wait until after the Tampa game on Sunday the 26th or even Monday the 27th to make a move. The longer he waits, the more medical clarity he’ll have about Tallinder/Larsson and the greater understanding he’ll have selling team/ standings.

Flying Oduya in on Sunday the 26th would be fine, and he could play the next night against the Rangers in a busy week. That would be a workable transition.

by Alan Wright on Feb 20, 2012 9:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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