New Jersey Devils Blow Away Philadelphia Flyers and Then Let Them Come Back, Survive with 6-4 Win
One thing you have to say about the New Jersey Devils this season is that they are rarely boring. There's always something going on in the games that they play. Be it something good, something bad, and usually it's both. The Devils have had their worst moments and biggest triumphs in the third period. They've made improbable comebacks and improbable meltdowns. They've done it all, sometimes to the our chagrin. Today's game against the Philadelphia Flyers resulted in a 6-4 win, and it was done in one of the more agonizing ways possible.
The Devils completely blew away the Flyers in the first two periods. They started off the game well and just rolled on. They got power play opportunities and succeeded by going 3-for-7 in this afternoon. They got two 5-on-3 situations and scored on both of them. They got a shorthanded goal and then a rebound within the final minute of the first period to turn a good 1-0 lead into a huge 3-0 lead. The Devils added two more goals within the first two minutes of the second period to really put the Flyers in a hole. A sixth goal on their second five-on-three situation surely put the nail in the coffin. Thanks to an effective power play, the Devils heavily out-shot the Flyers 30-17 in the game's first 40 minutes. While even strength play was stunted due to all of penalties called, the Devils were only -2 in Corsi after the second period. They were up by six goals and they weren't being out-attempted by much - and those extra Flyer attempts were mostly blocked, as evidenced by the Devils' +5 in Fenwick. You couldn't ask for a better performance than what the Devils did in the first and second periods. The Flyers were undisciplined, unfocused, and they became undone. The Devils were dominant and they made the Flyers pay for their reckless play. The Flyers could get little in response except on their own power plays, which they did not convert on then. It was all good for the Devils after the second period.
With a six goal lead, the Devils relaxed and let up a bit from an intensity standpoint. They played their depth players more often and all they had to do was to avoid doing dumb things. The former was sensible, as the Devils do have a game against Pittsburgh at 1 PM tomorrow. The latter should be obvious, but still has to be a point of emphasis given the situation. Surely, the Devils, who have blown three goal leads a handful of times this season, can just play out the third period without issue. It's just 20 minutes, they can't blow that up, right?
Well, the Flyers came very close to doing that. It didn't start off so quickly. With the home team, who has been an offensive force this season, down six goals, one would expect them to take the game to the Devils. However, there is a huge difference between the opposition just attacking more often and getting out-shot 24-1. Seriously, the Devils just drowning out there as time went on and could only get themselves some occasional relief. Again, it wasn't like the Flyers came out and destroyed them immediately. No, it took some time. When Wayne Simmonds scored on a second rebound attempt over Johan Hedberg's stretched out body, it was no big deal. Just a consolation goal. Then Jaromir Jagr hammers home a shot off a fortunate re-direction on Johan Hedberg's flank and it's 6-2. Then after a physical fracas, the Devils take a stupid penalty with their top two defensemen on the PK in the box and Claude Giroux slams in a great shot to make it 6-3. Johan Hedberg had no chance on it; but the effect was massive.
The Flyers PP finally got the board and all of a sudden, the crowd at the Wells Fargo Center is alive, the Flyers are pumped, and it's apparent the Devils are getting worked. Jakub Voracek buried another rebound to make it 6-4 and Devils fans have fallen from happy to either incredibly nervous, worried, angry, or some combination of the three. All of a sudden Kurtis Foster clears a puck out of the crease and you're just thinking to yourself, "Please stop this shot Moose, please someone get to the puck, please someone get a clearance, please someone get the puck down the other end of the rink." The Devils lost the plot on the ice and had to calm down. They eventually did, but Philly made it a game when it really wasn't less than 20 minutes ago and they pressed hard. The Flyers pulled their goaltender and the Devils were stymied in their attempts to ice the game. Fortunately, the Devils would hold on to win 6-4. The final third of the game certainly wasn't boring; though I think I speak for all Devils fans that I wish it was a nice and easy third period. It was anything but.
Essentially, the Devils were brilliant for the first 40 minutes and blew away the Flyers. Then they were atrocious and let them come back in the third. The Devils' initial lead was too large for Philadelphia to overcome, but it brings to mind that old cliche: "Hockey is a 60 minute game." Perhaps the Devils will remember that in the future and act accordingly, hopefully by tomorrow afternoon. If it wasn't for the big six goal lead, then we're talking about a heartbreaker instead.
Believe me, there were some big positives among the negatives and I'll discuss what I felt were the important ones after the jump. For the opposition's point of view, Kreider at Broad Street Hockey has this recap.
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The Redemption of Foster: Kurtis Foster was benched in Thursday's game against Montreal. He was poor in his own end and he directly contributed to a shorthanded goal against. He didn't play after that goal and completely deserved the punishment. With Adam Larsson out of the game, Foster was expected to get back on the ice. Today, he redeemed himself by playing one of his best games as a Devil since being acquired.
Foster was a big reason why the power play was so effective this afternoon. All five of Foster's shots on net came on the man advantage and he scored twice. In fact, he scored on both two-man advantages the Devils earned. He switched sides up above the circle from where Ilya Kovalchuk was normally set up, he received the puck and just blazed a shot past Sergei Bobrovsky for the first one. The second one was more or less a great shot. Foster was on his usual side and just unleashed a good shot that not only beat Bobrovsky shortside, but sent him to the bench to be replaced by Ilya Bryzgalov. Foster even picked up an assist, as he got the puck along the boards that eventually led to Zach Parise scoring on a great individual effort. That's three power play points from Foster, and that alone is enough to say he had a great game.
I'll go a bit further, even though he was limited in his minutes with only 8:20 played at evens. I think he made the most important defensive play for the Devils. After Voracek's goal, the Flyers were energized and highly motivated to go get that fifth goal on the board. They crashed the net and the puck got loose in the fracas. Foster was by the crease, not unlike where he was in the Rangers game before the first goal against. This time, Foster learned from his past mistake and cleared that puck away from the crease. If he hadn't, then the Flyers score and it's a one-goal game. Foster preserved a lead that was in serious danger of completely falling apart. Foster wasn't named one of the three starts of the game by today's attending media, but I actually think he was one of the best Devils on the ice in this afternoon.
Thank You Adam Oates: I've been hard on the power play this season and assistant coach Adam Oates. For the most part, the Devils' power play has been inconsistent at best. They've wasted opportunities, they've allowed a staggering number of shorthanded goals, and they don't generate enough shots on net, much less goals, in general. When they've been bad, I've pointed it out.
However, credit must be paid where credit is due. The Devils power play was simply fantastic. The power play was a massive reason why the Devils won today's game. Sure, the Devils got the benefit of two fairly long five-on-three situations but they made the most out of both of them. The Devils didn't squander any of their power plays, especially those important 5-on-3 situations. The players were able to set up in Philadelphia's end without too many problems. The skaters weren't statues, as they moved around enough to create some space. They were able to get shots to Sergei Bobrovsky, and they got a lot of rubber on net. Over seven power play situations, the Devils got an amazing 16 shots on net. 9 happened in 5-on-4 situations and the other 7 were in the 5-on-3 situations. The power play actually got more shots on net than at even strength; that's how effective they were in this afternoon. Of course, they scored on three of them: Foster's shots from distance and Parise going goal-line and jamming in his own rebound around Bobrovsky.
The big thing about the goals was that they were important. Foster's first goal was the first goal of the game. Parise's goal came early in the second period, made Scott Hartnell pay for being a reckless fool, silenced the Wells Fargo Center, and helped set up a bigger Devils lead. Foster's second goal, in retrospect, was huge as it made the Devils' lead just large enough that the Flyers couldn't overcome it. The power play was great and I have to say that Oates did a good job. I know it won't always be like this, but it was wonderful to see everything clicking this evening.
21 Minutes and a Second: As great as the Devils' power play performed, a significant part of the game was played by special teams. Referees Ghislain Hebert (who worked the Devils-Montreal game) and Eric Furlatt got to use their whistles quite a bit and they pretty much had to do so. I know it's a rivalry game, but the Flyers were simply reckless and downright nasty and the Devils got dumb at times too. The result was that both teams took 11 penalties and had 7 power plays each. While the Devils made the most of their power plays, the Flyers didn't waste too many of their own. The Flyers got a total of 13 shots on net with a man advantage and they did get one through on their sixth power play in the third period. The Flyers have been a very good team on the power play this season, and so it shouldn't be that much of a surprise that the Devils PK got worked over. Hedberg had to be at his best in these situations and he was for the most part. The one he didn't get came from a one-timer in the slot by Philly's leading scorer; that's not really a terrible one to allow.
What frustrates me about the calls was that the Devils handed the Flyers three power plays in the third period. OK, I was frustrated with the first two. The third one was with 30 seconds left as Andy Greene had to take down Jaromir Jagr to prevent him from shooting. Since the Flyers had their goaltender pulled, the penalty killing situation allowed New Jersey to just ice the puck and keep the clock going - which they did accomplish. Zach Parise's tripping call hurt because the Flyers got on the board a few minutes earlier and the opportunity just gave them more chances to get back into the game. That was dumb.
While Philly didn't convert that opportunity, they did on the power play created by Alexei Ponikarovsky slashing and breaking Andrej Mezaros' stick. The call itself was entirely avoidable and it was a stain on Ponikarovsky's otherwise good performance. Making matters worse was what happened prior to the penalty. After a freeze by Hedberg, Zac Rinaldo slewfoots Zach Parise. A fracas among the players on the ice ensues and somehow Ilya Kovalchuk and Brayden Schenn get into it. Rinaldo was called for tripping, but the post-whistle shenanigans sent Schenn and Kovalchuk to the box for a roughing minor and a fighting major as well as Simmonds, Bryce Salvador, and Anton Volchenkov for roughing. Yes, the Devils had their top two defensive defensemen and penalty killers in the box for two minutes. They had to watch as Giroux made Ponikarovsky pay for his penalty with a one-timer in the slot and when Voracek put in a rebound to make it 6-4. Ponikarovsky's penalty alone was stupid, but it was compounded by what happened after Rinaldo's hit.
All told, the Devils got 7 penalties in the third period alone. I'm not faulting the refs at all; I'm faulting the Devils for not being smarter about their actions as the game went on. They knew they were leading, they knew the Flyers were doing some dirty things, and they know that the Flyers can definitely bring it on the power play. They didn't act that way and it played a role in how Philadelphia turned a 6-0 deficit into a competitive game.
Keeping them Honest: I feel bad for Sergei Bobrovsky. OK, he wasn't very good today; but it's not his fault the guys in front of them gave the Devils two five-on-three situations or that their idea of defense in the first two periods was to stand around and do something physical sometimes. Still, he was yanked after the sixth goal on New Jersey's 23rd shot on net. He played 28:22.
So the expected starter for Sunday's game, Ilya Bryzgalov, was in net for about half of the game in regulation and the Devils only got 8 shots on net. 7 of them were in the second period, which was OK to see. But only one measly little shot in the third period? C'mon son. That's just terrible.
Again, I understand and expect the Flyers to dominate the third period since they're down six goals, they're at home, and they want to get something on the board. Fine, score effects normally result in the leading team playing most of the game in their own end. I get that. But going from -2 in Corsi to -20 is simply abysmal. Forcing the Flyers to defend only a handful of times in a 20 minute period after kicking them up and down the ice in the last 40 is just atrocious. Ilya Kovalchuk, Patrik Elias, and company were able to get plenty on net but were all shutout in the third. Only Alexei Ponikarovsky (+6) and Steve Bernier (+1) finished the game positive in possession and even they did little in the third. Put it this way: Bryzgalov could have read a book in the third period.
What's worse that the Devils got too loose down low on defense led to three of the Flyers' four goals: Andy Greene got lost where Simmonds was and he was too late to stop him; Anton Volchenkov went up which meant Bryce Salvador had to get his man, so when the puck bounced off Volchenkov, Jagr was wide open; and Voracek was similarly wide open in a 5-on-5 situation. Hedberg had to play really well because if he wasn't on point, then the Flyers could have more easily made the comeback.
The defending around the crease was woeful and resulted in goals against. Combined with the lack of offense and the Devils were just setting themselves up for failure in the third period. The big takeaway - other than the win - should be that the Devils need to keep the opposition honest even when they're up by 3 or more goals. When they don't, it can come back to bite them. It happened in the past (e.g. first game against Florida, last game against Washington) and it very nearly happened again. Let's hope we don't see it in the future.
Congratulations: Steve Bernier picked up his first point as a New Jersey Devil. He won a puck behind the net and impressively backhanded it into the slot. Ponikarovsky hammered it into the net, which made the game 5-0 at that point. The third line, those two and Jacob Josefson, was quite good.
Yes, Big Z Got Away with One: Ilya Kovalchuk's shorthanded goal put the Devils up 2-0 in the first period and it came with some controversy. The goal came off a rush created by Dainius Zubrus. Zubrus won the puck from Giroux at the point by, well, crashing into him and taking him down. Should it have been a call? Yeah. As it turned out, the non-call didn't decide the game. The Flyers were playing poorly regardless and they made up for it in the third period anyway with goals of their own. It happens. The shot from Kovalchuk, the second of his three points (yes, six in the last two games, he's hot now), was still awesome.
Chumps: I wanted a game that didn't feature a lot of special teams given the Flyers' excellent power play and the Devils' not-at-all excellent power play, and it didn't turn out that way at all. Fortunately, the Devils' PP was magnificent. I also wanted a game where there wasn't a lot of rough stuff given that the Devils played two physical games against the Rangers and Montreal earlier this week. I sort of expected it from the Flyers given their roster, but not to the extent seen this afternoon. Scott Hartnell was a punk; he got whistled for high-sticking Ponikarovsky while Dainius Zubrus scored with 0.4 seconds left in the first period. Three other calls could have been made on Hartnell, since he punched Ponikarovsky, held him, and slashed at his glove, knocking it off, as the goal was scored. Wayne Simmonds plays with a physical edge and got away with a big elbow of his own in the first period. Zac Rinaldo is basically a goon and his slewfoot on Parise and blindside check on Josefson should warrant some kind of supplemental review. Yes, he was called on both plays, but they were dangerous. Just as dangerous as Kimmo Timonen's hit from behind on Parise during New Jersey's first power play and Braydon Coburn's cross-check on David Clarkson during Rinaldo's penalty. Those were whistled as well, but my main point is that the Philadelphia Flyers are still carrying the mantle of Broad Street Bullies. They think they're tough, they are tough, and they're going to let you know about it even to the detriment of what goes on in the game. The Devils can hold up their heads high that they made them pay for their penalties. Everyone else, just know that the Flyers are still a bunch of chumps.
As far as I know, there are no injuries for the Devils after all that happened today. I hope I'm not proven wrong as the team will need to be as healthy as possible going into Sunday's game against Pittsburgh.
One Final Note: Against the Rangers, the Devils scored 3 goals. Against Montreal, the Devils scored 4 goals. Today, they scored 6. I believe their offensive slump going into the All Star Game weekend is now officially and utterly over.
That's my take on today's game, now I want to know yours. How much did you love the first two periods? How much did you hate the third period? Do you believe Kurtis Foster redeemed himself with his performance today? Do you think the same of Adam Oates? Who else on the Devils impressed you? Who do you think could have and should have done better today? What would you have liked to have seen differently from today's performance aside from the entire third period? Will the Devils be up and ready for tomorrow's game after this one? Please leave your answers and other thoughts on today's game in the comments. Thanks to those who discussed the game in the Gamethread and followed @InLouWeTrust during the game. Thank you for reading.
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by John Fischer on Feb 4, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ponikarovsky should have avoided his penalty? That slash happens 20 times a game, he just got unlucky that someone’s stick broke.
All in all, I think it’s a fine game – a better performance in the 3rd would’ve been nice, but the referees completely let up on the Flyers.
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I disagree. There’s no need to come that hard down on a defenseman’s stick at that part of the ice. Agree to disagree and all that.
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by John Fischer on Feb 4, 2012 8:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Flyers one for seven on the powerplay. I’m happy for our special teams today. These carried us against the flyers.
well purely stastically, 1 for 7 is not that good…
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 4, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
When I saw the Devils start to sit on the lead at the beginning of the third period, I felt this could be a major problem. It’s OK to do it with maybe five minutes left, and against an opponent who has conceded the game, but the time and the opposition in this game didn’t match this, and it almost cost them.
Knowing that they have a tough game tomorrow, the players try to get through the first game of a back-to-back with the least amount of energy. But, when the Flyers showed they weren’t going down that easily, the Devils had to respond, especially with most of the third period to go. Philadelphia has a game tomorrow too, this one against the Rangers, so both clubs were in the same situation. Luckily, the lead and time were on the Devils side.
This game could have been a shut-out instead of a nerve wracking final 20 minutes. The way both clubs were playing, New Jersey could have scored even more than six goals.
I think its kinda funny to hear some off the outrage from the other side (on TGs twitter and BSH) “He fought a rookie ZOMFG!!11oneone”
Then dont ask Kovalchuk to fight dude. You wont impress anyone by fighting him, especially when he throws you around like a rag doll. Further, Rinaldo, dont slew foot people and then leave the resulting fight up to a kid who just came off a concussion.
I dont care what anyone said, that was epic. I was so happy they put the fight up so fast on the ’Tube.
by Chris Calabrese on Feb 4, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
yeah they were real upset when carcillo fought gaborik after gaborik challenged him. schenn learned a lesson.
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I think you’ll find a lot of people on BSH want Schenn to stop fighting completely.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
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by PursuitOfLappyness on Feb 4, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
tell Rinaldo to stop slew footing and being a wuss then. Because if it wasn’t for that play Schenn wouldn’t have gotten destroyed.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 5, 2012 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Feeling bad for Schenn, Rinaldo’s not worth that risk and Breydan has been concussed already this season.
I’m just glad to see Kovy stepping up for his captain, he will get his share of love for this, from the medias, the fans and his teammates.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 5, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t feel so bad.
If you’re coming off a concussion you don’t put it on the line for Rinaldirt.
He stepped up, got ragdolled, got tolchocked in the gulliver, and was set right down again.
He’ll learn.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 10:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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by SinDonor on Feb 5, 2012 1:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
John, excellent post. I was starting to get spitting mad watching this game as this herd of goons that Philadelphia dares to call a hockey team flat out ignored the rules tonight and just crashed into anyone they saw. Our boys did an admirable job of not being intimidated by this. If the flyers don’t receive at least 6 years worth of suspensions after this game Shanaban should lose his job. One couldn’t even deign to call the flyers efforts in the second period hockey, it was more a temper tantrum from some angry children embarrassed by their piss poor performance. And also I still don’t miss jansson.
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Until the third period I felt that the inconsistancy was gone but then it happened.
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by BlueChill on Feb 4, 2012 7:31 PM EST via Android app reply actions
slew
Is the slew foot a blatant intent to injure? Similar to a but end or a knee clip. With ZP out all last year with a knee this could of been real bad! I would say that was a cheap shot worthy of fine and a game or two. Shanny better make an example because that was bush.
by pappa zit on Feb 4, 2012 7:34 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Bush league play? Absolutely. Intent to injure? I’d say so.
There was no cause for that play, and I hope Brendan Shanahan comes down hard on the kid. I know he’s a rookie and therefore doesn’t have a “history”, but it isn’t like Rinaldo has clean hands — he came into today with 124 PIMs in only 37 games, which is good enough for 3rd in the League.
Add in the fact that this incident came way after the whistle, and it’s safe to say that Rinaldo wasn’t doing anything that resembled a “good hockey play”.
Well you see, he brought his stick up to Zach’s mid-section to warn him that he was there and was going to slew-foot him. It was a good hockey play and there will be no supplementary discipline.
I believe that was sarcasm.
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by John Fischer on Feb 4, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
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Complaining about Kovalchuk fighting has to be one of the weirdest things I have ever read on the internet. Anyway, quick question: How do you think DeBoer handles this game? Spends more time on what went wrong, what went right, or split it right down the middle?
Tonight? Focus on the positives. They need to play the game they played for the first 40 minutes for the entire 60 tomorrow against the Pens. After that? Well I guess it depends on how the Pens game goes.
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… complaining about the refs has to be one of the most unenlightening experiences I’ve ever had. It’s legit to be pissed about the non-call on Zubrus tripping Giroux, leading to Kovy’s shorty.
Beyond that, there were non-calls and some physical, dangerous both ways on top of the many penalties that were called on both sides.
But, those Flyers fans wouldn’t let up. It was just sad. They simultaneously argued NHL reffing incompetence/ inconsistency; an pro-Boston/Chicago/Pitt bias; an anti-Flyers bias; and were (unsurprisingly) quiet about all the dirty play from the Flyers yesterday.
Non-calls of their teams’ dirty play gets a pass. Calls against their team are either due to incompetence or conspiracy (if not both).
Give me a break.
Well. The reason I mention this is to say that while I agree the NHL officiating has to be constantly re-trained and made more consistent, griping like I saw on BSHockey is some of the most miserable and unflattering crap in sports/ fan culture.
I should try to be more understanding. I guess when your CITY has 1 championship in 30 years across all sports and you’re down 6-0 at a home matinee, it’s hard to be introspective.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 9:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The non-call on Zubrus was a critical turning point in the game, but Philly is deluding themselves if they’re thinking they deserved to win this game. The difference between the NHL and other pro leagues is largely mental, and the Flyers as a team let their rage take away from focusing on the game being played. The Kovalchuk shortie was just one goal – Philly has only themselves to blame for the next 4.
The saddest thing, if you’re the Flyers, is they had 17 minutes in the locker room to regroup when it was 3-0, and went out and played far worse in the 2nd. That is completely on Peter Laviolette.
And frankly, how Rinaldo escaped suspension for the slew foot is beyond me. Quoth him:
"The slew-foot really shouldn’t be in the game but 6-nothing we were down and someone had to stir the pot," Rinaldo told ESPNNewYork.com.
He admits slew-footing is wrong and admits to intentionally slew-footing Parise in order to “stir the pot”. I mean, are you kidding me?!?! This kid has no remorse about it and absolutely sounds like he would do it again if the same situation presented itself again. He has no right to play even bush league hockey, much less in the NHL.
They were down 6-2 when he slew-footed Parise. Maybe that’s how he escaped suspension – he’s too dumb to know what the score is.
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I can completely believe Rinaldo plays the way he does unaware of the score.
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Agreed about the turning point and the mental lapses by the Flyers. On the board it was just a non-call resulting in a goal. Letting it eat at them (the fans) or letting morale sink so low as to let the Flyers’ structure collapse… such a shame. It couldn’t happen to a better group of guys! /s
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by Alan Wright on Feb 6, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
3 vs 4 goals
That 4th goal by Voracek was what disturbed me about this. Devs just give up a PPG, and then to give up another score within a minute really ruined what would have been a really enjoyable game. If the Flyers get 3, you can pretty much chalk it up to reasonably sitting back in a blowout. 4 though legitimately lets them back in the game. Obviously great to get the 2 points in their house, but my concern is that it give the Flyers confidence the next time they play.
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by Devilssection21fan on Feb 4, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions
You can’t discount the fact that the devs two best shutdown d were in the box during both of those goals. It doesn’t completely excuse it, but it did have an effect.
by SonicJoe on Feb 4, 2012 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
5000 dollar fine on Rinaldo… basically the max a player can be fined because they found him guilty on the slew foot and the Josefson hit. Seriously, if there are two guilty incidents in one game, it should be a suspension.
And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?
by KovyisLove on Feb 4, 2012 10:19 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Indeed. The hit on Josefson was late and a blindside hit at that. You’d think a league supposedly concerned about the well being of their players for checks would send a message. I know Rinaldo’s not a big money player, but 5k isn’t going to dent his six figure income enough for him to get smart.
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by John Fischer on Feb 4, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t think the hit was that bad. The slew foot, well I’d be upset, but Larsson slew footed someone the other night and got away with it. Brooks had a good observation that the slew foot is the new head shot, where the league looks the other way – they will have to crack down on it next year, I think.
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Was the Larsson slew foot in the neutral zone, near the boards? That’s what I’m thinking of. I’m not sure.
That game was dirty so it’s possible he was retaliating for something dirty, like when’ve was boarded and it went uncalled. I thought Elias’ boarding was retaliatory.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 12:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That doesn’t excuse it – it was deliberate and wrong. Rinaldo’s was after the play and very calculated, but unfortunately the precedent is set.
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Agreed, it’s not excusable but it is understadable in the heat of it. Rinaldi’s slewfoot was a cynical and selfish act. It worke to the Devils advantage on every level.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Larsson’s slew foot was during the course of play. Dangerous, yes, and perhaps deserving of a suspension, but far different from intentionally doing it after the whistle to intentionally instigate a fracas. If you want to instigate something, shove Parise around after the whistle but don’t resort to something as dirty and dangerous as a slew foot.
It’s a complete shame. Rinaldo deserved a suspension, too It may be debatable, especially here, but I PERSONALLY thought that Elias should’ve been suspended too last time for his boarding. I mean it’s not a question of favoritism, but clearly to protect the NHL players, right ?
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 4, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
One difference is that Elias’ action was pursuant to playing the man and getting the puck. He went too far but has no history.
Rinaldo’s slew foot was after the whistle, so he wasn’t playing the puck, and he has a history.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 1:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Edit: Rinaldo doesn’t have a supplementary history, he had lotsa pim. Not a class act. He’s Carcillo 2.0.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn’t think Elias deserved a suspension and said as much — this was Patty’s first run-in with Supplemental Discipline in a fifteen-year career.
As for Rinaldo, I think that’s a different set of circumstances. Rookie, third in the NHL in PIMs (despite having missed a chunk of time with injuries), and among the League leaders in fights to boot. That is not a player who can claim his hands are clean.
Then again, I’m a Devils fan…. and it’s far easier to see the flaws in another than in your own.
In my opinion, Josefson and Ponikarovsky are starting to make a big difference from the precedent line-ups Deboer got in hand. The 3rd line is not a joke anymore and when the bottom 6 of your team is starting to be talented and productive, good things tend to happen.
Elias with Kovy at evens is the greatest duo I’ve seen this year. Parise had a terrific game too.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 4, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know if this is the game where one would laud Elias, Kovalchuk, and Parise. Their Corsi wasn’t good even prior to the third period; and most of the Devils’ attack came on the power play. Maybe it’ll work out in future games; I just didn’t see it today.
You are absolutely right that the third line was on point. Somehow, Ponikarovsky and Bernier came out of this game positive in Corsi. Moreover, they attacked and succeeded with shots and even a goal. I know Clarkson will replace Bernier’s spot once Henrique is back and Zubrus can go back to RW; but it’s a good sign that part of the bottom six won’t be terrible. Good third line play is definitely a net positive.
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by John Fischer on Feb 5, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I try to make a opinion only from the things I watch in first.
Then I take a look at the stats to see if my feelings coincide with the numbers. And I’m often wrong. Though I’m ok with my own mistakes because there’s too many little things that can not be taken into consideration statistically speaking.
I’ve seen a wonderful shift between Kovy and Elias yesterday, there was no goal, not even a shot but that was a promising sequence, it was in the 2nd period if recall correctly…
But to tell the truth, we’ve not seen enough of minutes played 5 on 5 today to make a real judgement about this line.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 5, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think Parise and Elias could be playing better. Parise has scored a couple of spectacular goals, but he’s not generating as many shots for himself as usual. Elias, also, isn’t quite controlling play the way he usually does. Kovalchuk, on the other hand, is playing the best hockey of his Devils’ career, IMO.
Ponikarovsky has been a real boost to the 3rd line, and has been a more physical player than advertised. With the right linemates his Corsi could get even better. I anticipate Henrique will play between Parise and Kovalchuk with the Sykora-Elias-Zubrus line reunited. Poni-Josefson-Clarkson has the potential to be a good line, and Josefson would not have to shoot much with those linemates. But imagine if you could put Zajac, Henrique or Elias in the middle of that line? It would be a legit threat to score every shift.
Bernier’s been pretty solid in his short stint here. Hopefully he stays up, he can be a useful depth forward (well, more useful than Boulton or Mills)
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 5, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
I think he’s been just okay. Doesn’t do anything particularly well, but is certainly an upgrade from Janssen or Boulton. And even just the assist he had on Poni’s goal yesterday shows he has the skills to chip in a few points.
I agree. If/when Clarkson gets back down to the third line, Bernier can help make the fourth line not be a line of sadness.
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Huge win.
A 6-1 or 6-2 final score would have been acceptable. 6-4 was frustrating.
Moving on:
- Devs need a strong game tomorrow and the Pens are serious. No let down tmrw. No exhaustion after this absurdly physical game today.
- Between the Montreal game and this game, this level of physicality and uncalled penalties is a concern. It’s like playoff hockey after game 50, not game 82. It’s not sustainable. It’s risky and dangerous to the team and therefore to their season. Hopefully it lightens up.
- Kovalchuck fight. Well done. Zach Parise and Patrik Elias are probably doing backflips for Kovy right now. Helluva teammate.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 1:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Spreading it around.
The PB&J line had the GWG; Foster had 3 points; Zuby had at least 2; PP and PK teams both notched some points yesterday. Obviously Kovy, Patty, and Zach did too.
The win is great, but I’m just glad to see some more points contributions from the 3rd and mixed lines, Kufo, Voltron, etc. If you want to go far you need support from all sides and each line needs to be a threat.
When Zajac (if?) and Henrique are back… well I know the Devs will be stronger but I wonder what the lines will be. Hopefully Poni and Bernie don’t get too jostled or feel relegated. Every man has to be behind this to keep the train rolling.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 9:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Bernier should be happy to be in the NHL. There weren’t any teams looking to give him an NHL contract at the beginning of the season.
If the Devils’ forward corps were to every get healthy, the top 9 would be:
LW: Parise, Kovalchuk, Poni
C: Zajac, Elias, Henrique
RW: Zubrus, Sykora, Clarkson
That leaves Carter, Josefson, and Bernier to play on the 4th line, with Boulton in the mix. That’s looking a lot better than it did 2 weeks ago.
I agree that Bernie, or even Poni, are in a fortunate spot after bouncing around for a few years. Still, I think they’ve done a solid job an have seem to work well together so far. I like their work anyway and they’re starting to put up points.
When the full crew returns they’ll be relegated and get less time, but I hope they’re still productive and useful. Well, maybe less ice time could be more productive if they see themselves fighting for contracts.
Either way it’s a good thing they’re makig contributions.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 6, 2012 8:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Today’s Fun Fact™, Gordie Howe Hat Trick Edition:
Ilya Kovalchuk has eight previous fights in the NHL (data from the wonderful people at hockeyfights). Going through game logs for the eight games (done through NHL.com), Kovy’s combined scoring stat line was 1-0-1 for those games.
Not only was it a majestic performance to watch in the fight, but he contributed to more scoring yesterday afternoon than in all the other games in which he fought combined.
It was a solid fight/win and a solid Gordie hat-trick, but Kovy fights more like a dancer than a brawler. Pretty funny to see him spinning and scrapping out there.
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by Alan Wright on Feb 5, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kovy fights more like a dancer than a brawler.
Schenn’s clearly taken a dance with the Devil yesterday.
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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 5, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions

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