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Martin Brodeur Earns First Shutout of Season, 1-0 Victory for New Jersey Devils Over New York Rangers

Martin Brodeur led the New Jersey Devils to beat the New York Rangers at Madison Square Garden, 1-0. That's right, it's a shutout win and it's Martin Brodeur's first of this season. In fact, it's his first shutout win since March 20, 2011, a 3-0 win over Columbus. In that game, Brodeur didn't have to play out of his mind to get it. Tonight was the exact opposite. Brodeur had to be excellent tonight. I cannot emphasize this enough: Martin Brodeur led the Devils to victory over the New York Rangers.

The opening of the game looked as good as you could get. The Devils came out with pace and pressure. They drew a call and David Clarkson buried a feed from Zach Parise in the slot for a power play goal. The first, second, and third lines got pressure on Henrik Lundqvist. Even the fourth line wasn't abjectly terrible. The Rangers came alive late in the first period; but they weren't that threatening. The second period was similar to the first, only the Devils didn't score (they came close) and the Rangers had more opportunities off the rush. But the Rangers either botched them or Brodeur stopped them with aplomb. It wasn't Brodeur's play in net that was impressive in the first two periods, but his play outside of the net. He was putting on a clinic in moving the puck, rarely making an error or putting a puck in an inopportune place. The Rangers kept trying to dump the puck in and forecheck the Devils; but Brodeur neutralized a lot of their efforts.

However, the third period began and it almost went awry for the Devils. They started off slow; not fatigued, but just lacking in the spark. The Rangers didn't have to dump it in so much and they created more shots. The Devils iced the puck too many times early, hurting their cause - even after a timeout by Peter DeBoer. As time went on, the Devils sold out on offense and just switched to a dump-and-change approach. Outside of an one-on-one opportunity by Jacob Josefson, Henrik Lundqvist didn't have to do anything in the third period. Adding to their woes, Bryce Salvador hit Carl Hagelin early and away from the puck, handing the Rangers a power play as they had the run of the game. Even after the kill, the Devils skaters went right back to sitting on 1-0.

Fortunately for them, Martin Brodeur didn't relent. Yes, the defenders did a great job cleaning up loose pucks. But Brodeur was just excellent when it seemed like he was the only one trying to keep the lead. He positioned himself very well; his reactions were on point; and his movement was fluid. Even after Ryan Callahan fell on Brodeur's right ankle in a collision, Brodeur remained strong in net - twisted ankle (so Brodeur said to Tom Gulitti after the game) The only time Brodeur was beaten was in the dying seconds of the game and it required Marian Gaborik to illegally and intentionally plow through Brodeur in his crease so Artem Anisimov can put home a loose puck. Thankfully, the referees correctly called goaltender interference, ruled it "no goal," put Gaborik in the box, and the final 3.5 seconds were just killed off based on position. When you have to cheat to beat a goaltender, it means the goaltender has been superb.

Martin Brodeur made 30 saves to earn his 117th career shutout and a 1-0 win to extend the team's winning streak to five games. Even his biggest critics have to recognize that he was sensational tonight and critical for the team's win. I just hope in the future, his teammates will give him some offensive support and the coaches and skaters can make a concerted effort to not fall apart in the third period. Brodeur essentially bailed out his team en route to two big points in the standings; but that's not a gameplan for anyone to rely on in the future.

I have a few more thoughts on tonight's game after the jump. For the opposition point of view, please check out Bryan Winter's recap over at Blueshirt Banter. Please be nice if you're going over there, and please be polite when you point out that, yes, Gaborik interfered with Brodeur and so the refs didn't really rob the Rangers of anything.

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The Stats: The NHL.com Game Summary | The NHL.com Event Summary | The NHL.com Play by Play Log | The NHL.com Shot Summary | The Time on Ice Shift Charts | The Time on Ice Head to Head Ice Time Charts | The Time on Ice Corsi Charts

The Highlight Video: Tonight's game featured only one goal and a whole lot of saves. Check it out in this highlight video from NHL.com:

One More Brodeur Note: I've already gushed over First Star of the Game (duh) Martin Brodeur's shutout performance tonight prior to the jump. I only have one additional thought. I hope someone on the Devils coaching staff saves the video of tonight's game so Johan Hedberg can see how a goaltender can effectively play the puck to help out his team's cause. If anyone stands to gain from Brodeur's performance outside of the net, it's his backup.

The Other Goaltender: Martin Brodeur was fantastic, but game respects game and so we must discuss Henrik Lundqvist's performance. The Rangers certainly owned the third period, but for most of the first and second period, the Rangers were the inferior team. Lundqvist was tested early and often. The Devils opened up the game with a lot of shots on net and Clarkson beat Lundqvist with a wicked one-timer from the slot on a power play. Lundqvist had no real chance on the shot and as it turned out, it would be the only one to beat him. The Rangers' goaltender had to come up big and/or lucky in several spots from that goal onward, including a second one-timer by Clarkson in the slot in the second period. Without Lundqvist reacting the way he did or getting stop after stop on Devils' shots, the Rangers wouldn't have had a chance in this game. Devils fans may not be pleased with the hot offense only generating one goal, but that's because Lundqvist played a great game. At least, he did for the first two periods when the Devils actually attacked with the puck on a somewhat regular basis. He didn't have to do much except deny Josefson - the Devils' sole third period shot.

The One Solidly Good Forward for the Devils: David Clarkson played a great game in his own right. He was a positive possession player through all three periods, even during the near-shotless third period. Clarkson finished at +2 Corsi and he put 6 shots on net out of 8 attempts, leading the team in both categories. Clarkson also scored the game's only goal on a power play that he drew as Stu Bickel held him back illegally in the first period. What struck me about his play was that he rarely tried to do too much with the puck. Yes, he unloaded shots when he got it but he got to good positions away from the puck for those shots. He found spaces in the Rangers' coverage instead of just trying to force shots from bad angles. Clarkson did a good job and, I'm a little surprised to be saying this, I wish more Devils played like him tonight.

Cooled Off: We can officially say that Ilya Kovalchuk has cooled off. He didn't register a point, though his pinch in on the power play played an important role. It led to Patrik Elias feeding Zach Parise, who found Clarkson in the slot for the goal. Yet, that was his one big contribution on offense. While Kovalchuk was certainly skating hard, he wasn't finding the net. He attempted 5 shots and only one got through to Lundqvist. He tried to stickhandle through guys but lost the puck. He misfired several passes on offense and into the neutral zone to give the Rangers possession. In terms of Corsi, he was one of the worst Devils at -10. Kovalchuk has been great as of late, but he wasn't tonight.

A lot of the above can be written about Zach Parise. Parise's point streak remains alive with an assist and he did get 3 shots on net, which was more than what Kovalchuk got. Yet, he was just as spotty with his passing; and he wasn't pushing the play forward either as he earned a -9 in Corsi. Parise definitely cooled off from the good games he was having as of late.

Parise also made one of the bigger boneheaded moves of the night for New Jersey. With the Rangers' net empty, Parise had the puck in the neutral zone past the red line. He had Michael Del Zotto right in front of him, blocking him from the goal. The smart play would have been to dump the puck into the corners. With 10 seconds remaining, it would take a miracle for the Rangers to immediately get it and rush up ice for a last-ditch effort. Instead, Parise attempts a shot and it gets blocked by Del Zotto behind Parise. This created a 3-on-1 rush that would have resulted in a goal except Gaborik bulldozed into Brodeur to nullify the play. It was a very bad decision in a third period full of them.

The good news is that we can expect Kovalchuk and Parise to bounce back. We know they're quality players and they had good games. They just weren't good tonight and it was magnified when the Devils got nothing going offensively in the third period.

Seconds and Thirds: The Elias line (Parise, Elias, Kovalchuk) didn't have a good night in possession throughout the game. Elias was the best one and he finished at -3. However, it didn't seem like such a big deal because the second and third lines were able to get success. John Tortorella gave the Elias line issues by mixing up who'd they see: Ryan Callahan, Brian Boyle, Derek Stepan, and Marian Gaborik were the most common opponents. Yet, this opened up the game for the Dainius Zubrus and Adam Henrique lines. Clarkson got 6 shots on net to lead his group and while Zubrus and Petr Sykora didn't add much more, they got the play going forward. The Henrique line was more visually impressive as Steve Bernier and Alexei Ponikarovsky battled well along the boards. They didn't generate as many shots on net, though; but it certainly gave the Rangers issues in the first two periods.

More Third Period Ranting: At the end of the second period, the Devils were leading 21-15 in shots and were looking pretty good. The Devils faded in each period; but they did so well to begin them that it was enough to give the Rangers pause going forward. Instead, the Devils played the third period like they did against Philly except with far better defense around the crease. The Devils got out-shot 15-1, the team Corsi dropped from +4 to -12, and Martin Brodeur became the main reason why the team got a result at all, much less a 1-0 win. What happened in the third period that caused all three lines to become ineffective and the defense unable to get clears as they did in the first two periods?

I know the Rangers certainly made adjustments as they got away from the dump-and-chase. I know John Tortorella was spitting out the verbals after two non-descript periods. And I know the Rangers did end the second period strong, so the players had more reason to believe they can do something. You know this as well. What about the Devils? I'm still trying to figure that out. Maybe it's a lack of focus? Maybe it really is fatigue from playing five games in an seven-day time period? Maybe it was the Devils not adjusting to the Rangers' adjustments? Maybe it was just a result that what goes up (good play) must come down (bad play)? I don't know. If you do know, please let Peter DeBoer and his staff know because I don't know if they know. What makes it more frustrating is that we've seen the Devils do well in third periods in their recent games against Pittsburgh and Montreal. It's not impossible for this team to play good hockey in the third period rather than sit on a tiny lead and hope for the best. Yes, they got the win, but for the future, these third period breakdowns need to cease or at least become more rare.

Icings Are Bad: I want to highlight one other frustration from the third period. About 2:50 into the third, the Henrique line along with Kurtis Foster and Matt Taormina was on the ice for an icing call on New Jersey. The rule is that the offending team can't change their players, so that five is still out there. While the Devils win that faceoff, they couldn't clear the puck to get a change and the Rangers got pressure and two shots on net. 45 seconds after the first icing, the same group ices the puck again and Peter DeBoer used his timeout. It was a good timeout to give his skaters a break and a wake up call since the Rangers were pounding the Devils at that point. 10 seconds after the timeout: they ice the puck. Only after that does that group of five get a non-icing clearance and can change guys and that came after another shot against and the Rangers got in during the change. The fourth line eventually gets out there and as they end their shift, they ice the puck. While the Rangers didn't score, it served to help pin back the Devils, tire out their depth forwards and regular defensemen, and get more pucks on Brodeur. The whole experience should serve as an example of why icing the puck is a bad idea.

Come Back Soon Larsson: The New Jersey Devils went with six defensemen and it became apparent which two didn't really belong. Kurtis Foster and Matt Taormina each played about 15 minutes and they had to take on limited minutes. Tortorella didn't pick on them with a particular combination, but he didn't have to do that at all. No, whoever was going against #2 and #32 was going to get some shooting attempts and do it more than the Devils would when they were on the ice. They weren't getting the puck forward except to pitch it away and they were caught flat-footed far too many times for anyone's liking. Taormina also nearly had a terrible gaffe when he gloved down a rebound from a Brodeur shot early in the third period. The puck landed into space and a Ranger nearly pounced on it to jam it into an empty net; but it fortunately stayed on the outside of the post.

Let's put a number to their performance: Taormina was a team-worst -15 in Corsi and Foster was -11. Keep in mind that the rest of the Devils defense wasn't nearly this bad. Andy Greene was a -5, Bryce Salvador was -1, and somehow Mark Fayne (Greene's partner) was a +3 and Anton Volchenkov was a team-best +4 playing with Salvador. Therefore, it should be no surprise that those four got more minutes than Taormina and Foster. It should also be no surprise that when Adam Larsson gets healthy - which I hope is soon - one of these two will sit and that will make the defense stronger by subtraction alone.

Goal Achieved: That all said, even with Foster and Taormina not doing so well, I did appreciate how the Devils skaters played around their own net. There weren't too many opportunities - some, but not a lot - for the Rangers to get a second or third chance at a puck at close range. Part of that is due to Brodeur's positioning and part of it is due to physics for the puck to go to more advantageous spots for defenders. Defensively, the Devils cleaned up quite a few messes and made the night at least a little easier on themselves and Brodeur. While the Devils did poorly in the third period, it was this effort that ensured only 15 shots against and no goals allowed instead of, say, 24 shots against and 4 goals allowed. In the preview, I wrote that I wanted to see the Devils clamp down in the slot and around the net. I think the Devils did a good job doing exactly that in getting loose pucks and rebounds and preventing them from hurting the Devils - even in the third period.

I'm Not Looking Forward to This Future: Carl Hagelin is a rookie winger for the Rangers and he really showed up tonight. He got 4 shots on net to lead the team in shots on goal; he surprised Brodeur with one late in the second period that forced an impressive save; and he drew an interference call when Bryce Salvador hit him early and away from the puck to prevent him from making a play. Cynics will say he flopped, but it was a legit call. In any case, Hagelin played really well and I really hope Glen Sather doesn't like him. I don't want to see him get even better and cause more problems for the Devils six times per season.

For a more short-term future, I'm not looking forward to seeing Marc Staal three more times this season. Staal was more involved, he played over 20 minutes, and he was a +9 in Corsi.

Special Teams Back to Normal: The Devils set up a great play on their first power play to score. That first power play was effective. On the Devils' second and third power plays, they reverted to their old ways of not keeping possession, passing up good shots for great shots that don't happen, and having to go back to their end of the rink often to get the puck. While the Devils did get 6 shots on net, I felt underwhelmed by the power play. I know the Rangers are good on the PK; and 6 shots on 4:54 of PP time is usually good. I just feel the Devils could have done more.

At least the PK got back to being, well, killer. The Rangers got three power plays, including one in the third period. The Devils held them to only 4 shots on net and they all happened in their two first period power plays. Brodeur, of course, was magnificient. The PK skaters were at their most stout when they needed it most in the third period. The only thing they didn't get was a shorthanded goal and maybe they would have had a chance in the third, but Henrique was hauled down from behind by a defender with no call. Nevertheless, the Devils' penalty kill returned to being very good while the power play left me somewhat disappointed. It seems special teams may be back to normal.

Your "Huh" Moment: Eric Boulton sprung Jacob Josefson for a one-on-one with Lundqvist in the third period. The pass from Boulton was pin-point perfect. I didn't know Boulton could do that. It was that good of a pass. Well done.

No, the threesome of Boulton, Josefson, and Cam Janssen should not be kept together. They were often defending and Josefson's far and away better than Boulton and Janssen when it comes to hockey.

Can't Count on It: Apparently, the scorer at the Rangers game called the hits 52-24 in favor of the Rangers. Sure, the home team threw quite a few checks; but the Devils really weren't holding back either. I can buy the Rangers having thrown more hits; but it's clear to me that the scorer has a very different definition as to what constitutes a hit if he or she thinks the Rangers more than doubled-up on the Devils in contact.

Third Time's the Charm: Taormina was high-sticked in the third period by Ruslan Fedotenko in New Jersey's end and it wasn't called. Play continued and Brodeur had to make a save. During the Rangers' one power play in the third, Henrique was hauled down from behind by a Ranger and play continued. The Devils PK rushed back into position and, I believe after a missed shot, got a clearance.

So when the Rangers got that late 3-on-1 and Gaborik drove right into Brodeur, I was glad that referees Dan O'Rourke and Dean Morton made the right call by ruling the play as goaltender interference. Gaborik had no intention and made no effort to stop before contract. He skated in low and led with his elbow, which contacted Brodeuer first. He was not pushed by Anton Volchenkov, Gaborik's momentum was his own. Volchenkov may have touched him, but given that Gaborik was separate from everyone else when Brodeur was knocked into his own net, it's clear to me that he just charged the net on purpose - Volchenkov didn't help him. Brodeur didn't even come out to take the charge, he just received it while in the crease - where he can't be contacted - and got pounded into the net. This happened before Anisimov put the puck in the net. It was a penalty and so the play died. It was clear cut goaltender interference based on the NHL rulebook (Related: here's a page at NHL.com with video examples for compare and contrast) and I'm glad they got that one right after two pretty obvious should-have-but-weren't-called events in the third period.

Rangers fans won't be pleased at reading any of that, but hey, I wouldn't be pleased either if my favorite team only played well for 20 minutes in their own rink against a team they supposedly were unlucky against the last time these two met and lost. Oh well.

Picture Update for CONTROVERSY: Harrison Mooney has a video of the Gaborik goaltender interference penalty over at Puck Daddy. Here's a lovely picture from the video that shows the point of contact:

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So, how can Anton Volchenkov be intentionally pushing Gaborik into Brodeur if his hands aren't behind him and they are on his own stick? Did Volchenkov, who is on Gaborik's right, force Gaborik to lower his left shoulder and put into Brodeur, who is clearly in his crease? And you may want to watch the video; another angle will show Greene's not pushing Gaborik in either. There is some snow in the area, but it's definitely not slowing down Gaborik to barrel into the goaltender who is in his crease and is therefore not allowed to be hit. I'm sure some Ranger fans will argue otherwise, but in my opinion, this picture shows that, at least, Volchenkov didn't force Gaborik into hitting Brodeur. Thanks to Harrison for getting this video up on Puck Daddy.

Standing Upgrade: Five in a row during one of the toughest stretches on the schedule so far this season; in a word: wow. With a game in hand on Pittsburgh, the Devils are currently in fifth in the East, only one ROW behind Pittsburgh, and only two points behind Philadelphia. This may be temporary, but it definitely is a sight to see. If the Devils can play smarter and more competent hockey more often in the third period, then maybe the Devils can hang around here instead of fighting to stay ahead of eighth place. We'll see.

One Last Thought: It still feels really good to beat a hated rival. It almost feels as good as the relief that comes after holding your breath, biting your tongue, gritting your teeth, crossing your fingers, or whatever else one does when they're helplessly watching a team hold on to a precarious lead for the final 100 seconds or so of the game.

That's my take on tonight's game, now I want to know yours. What do you think of Martin Brodeur's performance this evening? What do you think is causing the team's problems in the third period? Are you concerned that Parise and Kovalchuk didn't have such a good performance, or do you think it'll take a couple of bad games for it to be an issue? Were you surprised to see David Clarkson have a strong game? Who on the Rangers impressed you the most? Aren't you glad the refs did make the right call on Gaborik at the end of the game? Other than "playing better in the third period," what do you think the Devils need to work on before their next game on Thursday? Please leave your answers and other thoughts on tonight's game in the comments. Thanks to everyone who commented in the Gamethread and followed @InLouWeTrust on Twitter; and thank you for reading.

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updated recap

I added two quote marks around “huh” and a picture relevant to those Rangers fans’ whining about Gaborik being called for goaltender interference goals for 2012.

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 AM EST reply actions  

Great road win by the Devils! Martin Brodeur has been playing like an all-star once again. Great team effort!

On the negative side, the Rangers did carry the play in the 3rd Period as many other teams have done against the Devils this season. I believe part of the problem is that the Devils have both Boulton and Janssen playing only around 5 minutes per game. If I were Coach DeBoer, I would not play them more than 5 minutes per game. They are a liability defensively. The Devils need a 4th line that DeBoer is confident to play more 5 minutes, keeping the top lines, fresher.

by Jose_A_Alvarez on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

you guys got lucky on that call at the end. you can clearly see Gaborik stopping, and SNOW flying for 5 feet before he was pushed into Brodeur.

Seriously, felt sick seeing that go down.

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by BleedsRangerBlue on Feb 8, 2012 12:17 AM EST reply actions  

Wait a second, there was SNOW coming off of sharp things on ice?!? Surely this is exhibit A in the “Marion Gaborik was clearly going to come to a complete stop three feet from the crease going 25 MPH” case.

Get a grip. You lost.

by Dr. Witticism on Feb 8, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Trying to stop and actually stopping are two different things

And if it was done half assed then the no goal call. He didn’t make a good enough of an effort to try and avoid Brodeur thus the call. I could see arguing if it should have been a penalty but that’s not the big part of it.

by roomtemp on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

He was STOPPING, but didn’t STOP, he still kept going, that’s on him.

And Kovalchuk speeds away, great moves, busting through, DID YOU SEE THAT?

by KovyisLove on Feb 8, 2012 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Serioulsy, you should feel sick that your team was a no show for 59:57 minutes.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 8, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

This is the truth. If Rangers fans want to bitch about the interference call, fine. But, let’s make sure they’re perfectly aware of how their team looked like the Columbus Blue Jackets on offense last night and the only way they were able to “score” was to run the opposing goaltender. No wonder half of this team’s “all stars” play in their own zone.

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by Alamoth on Feb 8, 2012 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, felt sick seeing that go down.

u need to toughen up then , guy

by JTdevs on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

if the rangers are truly that great of a team, you shouldnt be blaming lucky bounces or bad calls on why the rags have been losing. If they are sooo good then they should have no problem over coming these fluke instances and winning.

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by deathbykovy on Feb 8, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, the Devils got lucky.

That call is going to protect the goaltender 90% of the time, but sometimes the contact Volchenkov provided would be enough to rule that the contact was not Gaborik’s fault because Gaborik did make some effort to stop. It’s harder in this case because he went up high on Brodeur.

Parise should have dumped the puck deep to the opposite corner and the time would have run out. Parise was lucky his screw up didn’t backfire.

The Devils were also lucky because the Rangers had sustained pressure and held the offensive zone for much of the third period, but they withstood it. Well, it’s a skill… not mere luck. But they were fortunate anyway.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly being overly defensive was the way they were going to win.

The offense had a few bright spots but other then that they weren’t crisp with their passes, decisions and had an off night especially the top line. I didn’t think the defense gave anything that was super human to stop in the third but Brodeur had to be sharp because on mistake would be death in that game. Not every win can be pretty but you take what you can get. Good thing this team isn’t 100 percent healthy or I wouldn’t feel as good about this win.

by roomtemp on Feb 8, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

I have been among Brodeur’s sharpest critics this (and last) season, but Marty was in pure Legend form tonight. It was almost as if the trapezoid was ditched for a game. The second period was just beautiful to behold, bringing back fond memories of Brodeur just rejecting every single attempt to dump the puck in. I loved it.

And he also made some pretty nice saves too :)

Oh, and when are we all finally going to start admitting that the Rangers are now the “boring defensive team” (not that I ever found defense boring. If you love the game and can appreciate when something is done well, it’s beautiful whether it’s offense or defense being carried out) and the Devils are the aggressive, hard-forechecking, offensive team?

by Dr. Witticism on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

Not that the Devils were very offensive after the first half of the game in this particular instance (already foreseeing a stupid counter-argument coming). But the Rangers basically now try to ride Lundqvuist to wins with minimal offense, and yet I don’t see anyone crying about it.

Right…. I forgot people only cry about it when it leads to winning Cups.

by Dr. Witticism on Feb 8, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The Cup winning Devils’ teams had way more offense than the current Rangers.

Say, did anyone see if Brad Richards played tonight?

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by Triumph44 on Feb 8, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I heard Chico say Adam Richards once.

Does that count?

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by Murdoc on Feb 8, 2012 6:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t even notice Marian Gaborik on the ice until the second period. Kudos to Volchenkov and Salvador for staying on top of him all night.

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by Alamoth on Feb 8, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know. Brad Richards is one of New York’s top players. I surely would have noted him if he played – oh, I get it.

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

You are crazy, I would take Richards over Elias and Gaborik over Kovalchuk in a heartbeat

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 8, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he was benched against Flyers in the 3rd and a fourth-liner against Devils lastnight. He might have 17-20 goals but he’s reddenizing quickly.

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by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 8:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Devils ’95 team -136 goals, league average 143
Devils ’00 team – 251 goals, avg 225
Devils ’03 team – 216 goals, avg 217

Ranger ’11 team thus far – 141 goals, avg 143

‘00 certainly had way more offense. The other two look very similar. Of course, we haven’t won anything this year, so it’s a strange comparison to make.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going by shots/game, where I’m pretty sure NJ crushes, especially adjusting for era. Although it does seem like NJ’s management strategy was (and kinda still is) to get guys who shoot a lot and hope they make enough of their shots.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 8, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Crushing shots on goal can be as much a product of strong defense as it is offense though, not to mention the element of more PPs equaling more shots, so you have to adjust for that.

Goals are a good enough for proxy for offense over a full season, IMO.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh, it’s almost a certainty that NJ’s power play ran super awful in 2003, and I did adjust for there being more penalties – easy to forget that NJ never drew any penalties even during their run of greatness.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, I like shot metrics, but at some point the actual result (i.e. goals) matters.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it does, and it’s hard to argue that the Devils ran that bad – they really seemed to love high shot, low shot quality forwards.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

According to the Rangers scorer, he did. And he had 25 hits.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

and was +/- + 6 ratings…. oh, wait a second…

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

nice hard-fought win Devils!

lol reading the rangers recap on their site as well as some of the comments is pretty funny, they are SO angry. I don’t think it was clear cut one way or the other, the call really could’ve gone either way at the time, just went the Devils way tonight. Also, the NHL rulebook link that John posted explains perfectly that any and all contact between goalie and offensive player in the crease when a goal is scored makes the goal disallowed, so the refs ended up making the correct call. The funniest part about reading the rangers recap though is this one sentence that the rangers writer Bryan Winter included in the recap….

“This easily has to go down in the record books, as one of the worst calls in hockey history.”

haha c’mon Winter, give me a break.

by Nets2410 on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

And they still forget that even if the Refs ignored the blatant violation, that goal would have only tied the game, not won it. They still had to get through the OT and possibly a shoot-out to call it a win.

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by Murdoc on Feb 8, 2012 6:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Kovalchuk didn’t get as assist, but he might as well have with his pinch to keep the puck in. With SHGA a problem all season, it was a calculated risk that paid off, much like Greene’s pinch against MTL.

by rtrstevec on Feb 8, 2012 1:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Just a note to John. Great writeup we are lucky to have you here. I usually dont read other side writeups but did tonight because of the waved off goal. And boy, it is so easy to see how much more effort you give us and how good of a writer you are. Thanks

by Devils_from_Seattle on Feb 8, 2012 1:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

To the above point (sorry I can’t reply, I’m using the app), I would definitely agree. ILWT is far and away the best I’ve seen here at sbn. I follow several others (Halos heaven being my other most followed) and john and co. do a great job of keeping things civil and on topic. Props as well to the rest of the group that follow ILWT for great insight, statistical analysis, and limited troling. The format here is exemplary and easy to follow and other blogs should take note. Anyway, that’s enough tire pumping, great game by Marty. How many consecutive seasons with a shutout is that now? I wouldn’t sort about kovi or Sachs, I’m quite positive they’ll bounce back at some point, though it might take a loss and a bit of line shuffling. why does jansson have a job again? Dude can’t even skate.

by Kovalklutch on Feb 8, 2012 5:01 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

wow, autocorrect hates you.

The fact that Janssen has a job isn’t surprising.
The fact that Boulton has a job isn’t surprising.
The fact that both these guys have a job on the same team is.

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by Murdoc on Feb 8, 2012 6:37 AM EST up reply actions  

that should read *fret and *zach

by Kovalklutch on Feb 8, 2012 5:02 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

It was possibly the best 1-0 game I’ve ever seen. I loved loved loved the second period. Such sweet technical beauty. I am not a fan of sitting on a one-goal lead, especially when you know the other team is going to get their stuff together for the last 20 min, and you do nothing to raise your own intensity to meet it. This was a rare occassion where they managed to survive the onslaught and win it.

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by Murdoc on Feb 8, 2012 6:41 AM EST reply actions  

It’s the best 1-0 game since the last time we won 1-0 in the Garden two years ago!

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by Alamoth on Feb 8, 2012 7:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"Controversial" call.

I thought it was the right call, but I do think Gaborik made some effort to stop. He didn’t make no effort, but he obviously didn’t make enough of an effort to stop and avoid contact.

I saw it as one of those plausible “accidentally on purpose” attempts to crash the crease. Any contact Volchenkov made with him… he used as a pretext to go up high on Marty, thus negating any effort he made to stop.

Volchenkov got a lucky call there, but it was the right call. It wasn’t like Greene’s (or Fayne?) push on Desharnais from the Montreal game that resulted in the puck off the visor.

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by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 8:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

So the opening line after the jump at Blueshirt Banter is:
The Rangers were just getting beat in every sort of battle tonight, including loose pucks and open ice.

Then he goes into how they were robbed?

Anyway, most of the of the fans over there are pretty level headed about it with comments suggesting the call was questionable, the refs are wildcards, and they lost in most of the game not the last three seconds.

I just thought it was a funny way to write that recap.

by Nesterdude on Feb 8, 2012 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

I agree, I thought they were being fair about it. They see a bad call, we see the right call. Either way it’s a tough one. If Lundqvist got run the roles would be reversed.

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by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Marty put it best, "I thought it was the right call. I’m sure they probably complained about it, but that’s kind of the nature of the beast."

by Marty 4 Prez on Feb 8, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Since every Devils/Kovy hater loves to bring up the $100M contract, let’s look at a few quick numbers so far this season compared to their $60M man.:

Kovalchuk – $6M salary – $6.67M cap hit – 22-28-50 -6 18PPP 5SHP 3GW
Richards – $12M salary – $6.67M cap hit – 16-18-34 -2 13PPP 0SHP 6GW

by Marty 4 Prez on Feb 8, 2012 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

Ok, now compare housing prices near Albany and Hartford. You’ll see that when Richards moves to Hartford he’ll need some extra dough up front. Litchfield County is plush like that.

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by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 8:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Actually, according to Zillow, the average house in Hartford is about $110K, well below the US average of $150K.

On the otherhand, homes in Albany are right around the national average.

by Marty 4 Prez on Feb 8, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Hartford itself. A wealthy man like Richards wouldn’t live there. How about Litchfield, west of Hartford?

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by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 8:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought he might want to save his money :)

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by Marty 4 Prez on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He’ll probably save his money with a rental property, so you’re right about that. Retiring to Prince Edward Island would save him even more.

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by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

he can probably rent a room in Redden’s house

by JTdevs on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Another one I didn’t get to see live, so listening to the guy on The Fan (it wasn’t Laughlin, it was some older, mushy-mouthed guy whose name I don’t know) afterward I was expecting the play to look something like this:

Suffice it to say, I was a little shocked at how innocent the play looked when I finally saw it.

by elesias on Feb 8, 2012 8:33 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Outstanding goaltending effort by Marty. Also, his passing and puck play were super. Overall good effort by the entire team but the third period problems continue which they need to overcome.You are not going to win many games leading by 1 going into the third and being outshot 14-1….This was clearly Marty’s best game of the year.

by denmay on Feb 8, 2012 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

For those curious…I had scoring chances 12-11 NYR last night. 2-6, 5-4, 5-1 by period. Clarkson led the Devils with 4 (incl the first 3). Kovalchuk was remarkably quiet. Thankfully.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Sounds about right. Curious whether you had that final play as a scoring chance – I guess not, since the penalty was called before.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, as far as how I track, if it gets waived off, it didn’t happen.

There were several barrages by both teams (Devs in the 1st, Rangers in the 3rd) where lots of shots were coming, but all from sharp angles or long distance.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, it was only 5-1 in the third? Really? I thought they got in a lot closer than that.

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, if you take the MSG scorers’ word for it

I’m looking at a couple again. Callahan’s initial shot before the whole hullabaloo is pretty close (which of course ice tracker has coming from point blank in the slot), as is one he took earlier from around the top of the circles. There’s some low, sharp angle shots. By the time I post, maybe I’ll go to 6 or 7, but not much more than that, and I generally don’t like to credit any additional post-game unless I really just fell asleep on one.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh. It looks like your count is accurate within a chance or two. Good eye. I guess I got fooled by the barrage into thinking it was a lot more than that.

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s obviously exceptions, but very rarely when teams are racking up 15-20 shots in a period are they also racking up chances, unless they have a bunch of non-Ranger PPs in there.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The MSG scorers need to be fired.

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by slackdog_rm on Feb 8, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of official scorers need to be fired. If you ever really scrutinized shot counts in any arena, you’d laugh at what gets counted and not counted. I’ve seen point blank shots vanish into mid air. Imaginary shots credited when the puck wasn’t even in the vicinity at the time. Not to mention nobody seems to be able to real-time identify where shots actually came from.

The MSG guy as a lot of problems, but he’s far from the only one. Just the worst one.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m still giggling at 52 hits.

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by slackdog_rm on Feb 8, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t even pay attention to hits, to be honest. It’s another one that is comically bad everywhere, just MSG is worse.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Fayne played a great game. Never seen him so patient and confident with the puck.

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by Cherno77 on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Frankly, I’m stunned (in a good way) at the recent turn around in Fayne’s play. What Larry Robinson is saying in practices must finally be sinking in or something. He’s been pinching in at exactly the correct times, falling back when he should be falling back, and he’s no longer allowing opponents to slide into the crease behind him (or directly in front of him!!!).

And don’t give me any bs about corsi predicting this. Corsi doesn’t track the boneheaded errors that Fayne was making earlier in the season.

by ohms law on Feb 8, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Corsi absolutely does.

When Tallinder went down, Fayne started to struggle, but with Greene’s return he has picked it back up.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 8, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He said don’t give him any of that bs.

by elesias on Feb 9, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

That’s OK, I fully expected it.
(especially from Triumph)

I didn’t notice any correlation with Tallinder or Greene coming or going at all, but whatever. It’s all about the Corsi
hehe

by ohms law on Feb 9, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that Blueshirt Banter has the same photo running as the lead for this post but think that Mark Fraser still plays for the Devils.

by Zelepukin on Feb 8, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

That caption comes from AP directly.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Related – There have been captions where the AP doesn’t know which one is Dubinsky and which one is Callahan.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Another excellent victory against our rival

Perhaps this is the start of something???

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by BlueChill on Feb 8, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Your first line is an absolute force lately. They seem to have developed all kinds of chemistry since the last time we played you guys, making drop passes and finding the open man all the time. Scary hockey to watch for Rangers fans. Take it easy.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 8, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

It is a pretty stacked line. Devils have some new guys/ guys off injuries so I hope that provides some depth if they get going. Zajac for one, Josefson with just a few games back, and now Ponikorovsky and Bernier providing some new looks.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

When you get Zajac back your depth scoring is going to look mighty healthy. Zajac, Sykora, A-Pon, Clarkson, Zubrus, Henrique, etc.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

If Zajac returns to form that is. I don’t think Sykora has done much lately and a few of his goals came right off the faceoff. Sort of a rare circumstance there, but he has good chemistry with a few guys.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sykora looked good against us last night, had a lot of chances and still has that great shot. I think he is probably best used as a weapon on the powerplay as someone to get the puck to when all the attention is on Kovalchuk.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sykora still has that cannon of a shot, as you guys saw yesterday, but his shooting % this year is abysmal.

by JTdevs on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Sykora has 12 goals on 121 shots (9.92%). If that number holds, it would be the second-lowest single-season shooting percentage of his career (8.30% with Anaheim in 2003-2004).

I’m not sure I’d classify that number as “abysmal” when it comes to shooting percentage in an absolute sense. Is the number worrisome when compared to his career norms (11.64% for his career)? Definitely. When compared to NJ’s other scorers, it’s also bothersome — I don’t expect Zubrus-level success (20.83%), but it is the lowest among any Devil forward who has played a fair amount and scored a decent number of goals.

It’s also one of those numbers I would expect to see decline as a player ages, especially for a player such as Sykora who makes his living off his shot. When his physical skills atrophy with the passage of time, it becomes harder to rifle that shot by the goaltender.

Sykora has been slumping lately, although we might have expected him to do so considering he was out of the NHL for a few years. PDB has been cutting his ice time (and deservedly so IMO), too. It does raise an interesting question as to what happens if/when the Devils are entirely healthy and/or Henrique gets returned to a Top 6 role. Does Sykora maintain his spot on the 2nd line, or does he get shuffled down in the lineup while Clarkson gets the job?

by acasser on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, Zubes is at 21%. Get that guy the puck 15-20 times per game while he’s in the slot and we’re going to the Super Bowl! That’s gotta be how it works.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Abysmal was a bit of an overstatement.
I can’t site specific examples off the top of my head (besides last night’s pass from Kovy) but Sykora has also missed a few easy ones this season, if memory serves me correct..

For arguments sake, say 2 of those "near misses" actually go in the net, he is exactly at his career average of 11.6 %. 2 of his best seasons shooting % wise were the 2 in Pittsburgh, 07-08, and 08-09, his last two full seasons.

Maybe he has been a bit unlucky. Or, maybe declining physical skills are the culprit. Or a combination of both. Tough to say.

I do agree that Sykora has been slumping lately. Most likely reaching a point in the year where he is getting a little worn down physically, like you said, its been a few years…

To answer your question, I think Sykora is the first candidate to drop out of the top six if necessary. If given a lesser role, (or PDB continues to use him less because of the recent slump) perhaps we see an increase in his quality of play. Less ice time and not playing on the "checking" line every night could make for better results if he has hit a physical wall.

by JTdevs on Feb 8, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha...

I can not describe how happy it makes me to watch Rags fans blow up over the disallowed goal, while completely ignoring the fact that, if they were as great as they claim to be, this would not even be an issue. THE REALITY FOR RAGS FANS IS THAT THE HIGH TIMES ARE OVER, THEY JUST GOT BEAT TWO GAMES IN A ROW BY THE DEVILS, AND THEY NEED TO RELY ON THE REFS TO WIN A GAME FOR THEM!

The Rangers showed up and played for maybe 20mins and now they want to act like the game was decided by the refs. HAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaha…

And since Tortarello does not have the balls to make comments any more (Hahahahaha) I will.

Two games ago, Mr. T, you had the most smug look about you I have ever seen from a coach. It was seeping through my TV into my lap it was so smug. By the end of that game you seemed a little humbled. By the eve of the last game you were back on your high horse and making comments about how we got lucky. By the end of last game, you looked so pissed off that I bet your next three meals tasted like cardboard. The only comment I have is that your anger should have been directed at your players for not showing up for the game until it was way too late and leaving it up to the officials to try and save your butts. I guess sometimes hard work and diligence beats out luck! If they play like they did last night for the next few weeks, I will laugh as I watch them fight for 8th. Not even King Lunquist can save you!

Oh happy day!!!

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by Biggs Johnson on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

I think the real story here is

that John Tortorella kept his calm during the post game interviews. This combined with the unseasonably warm winter can only be a sign the apocalypse is edging ever closer.

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by HELLAWAITS on Feb 8, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

I watched as the Lamb opened the first seal, and the river of bile spewing from Mt. Tortorella grew still.

When he opened the second seal, the Winter in New Jersey became unusually mild for this time of year and actually okay to get around in with just a light jacket.

And when he opened the third seal…

by elesias on Feb 8, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

…..the meek son of Archie brother of Peyton known as Eli rose and conquered the land of the York which hath been confused with the land of Jersey.

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by HELLAWAITS on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Rangers Fan here not trolling.

I know you guys don’t like fans to complain about calls and what not, but i’m pretty sure you guys were upset over the outcome of the game against the islanders when Zach “Kicked” (depending on your viewpoint) it in to force overtime.

I personally think the call was wrong on replay but I don’t think the ref had any other choice to call it what it was on the ice.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 8, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Even if it were subject to a review I doubt the call would have been overturned.

by rtrstevec on Feb 8, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The play was called a goal on the ice, and then reviewed and overturned. Plays like that ALREADY subject to review.

by dasru on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant the Rangers goal. Besides which, the whistle blew before the puck went in.

by rtrstevec on Feb 8, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Even for myself that was a close call, It could’ve gone either way.
Though if I were a Rangers fan today, I would’ve been more concerned by the poor first 40 minutes of the game than the the last 3 seconds push… No offense, just how I would’ve seen it personally.

Anyways, you’re still at the top of the Eastern Conference with a few games in hands.

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by Elektrostal_Kid on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been pretty disappointed at the Rangers for not playing a full 60 minute game. It seems like though this team is tough to break when it gets a good lead going. Some goal scoring would go a long way for the Rangers because of how good Lundqvist is and can be at times as well as defensively sound our top pairs are.

Sure it hurts not to get a point out of the game but I also feel a bit lucky Rangers didn’t get buried in the first 10 minutes of the game either.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 8, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been pretty disappointed at the Rangers for not playing a full 60 minute game.

I think we’ve been able to share that sentiment for the better part of the season…

by Marty 4 Prez on Feb 8, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

They do have some games where they completely blow the other team outta the water. They’re almost similar to the pre-lockout Devils where they get a lead and won’t relinquish it by playing tight defense and mistake free hockey.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah like dasru said, the difference with the Parise “kick” was it was called a goal on the ice, sent to review, and changed in Toronto. Was it the right call? Who knows. Was I upset about it when it happened? Sure. But, the Devils had no one but themselves to blame for needing that “miracle” sort of finish just to tie it up.

by JTdevs on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at last night’s call objectively … it definitely could have gone either way. The refs made a split second decision, and given what they say at full speed, it seemed certainly difficult to see Volchenkov pushing Gaborik into Brodeur.

Honestly, I wouldn’t have minded 5 more minutes of hockey in that game. With the way the Rangers played in the third period, combined with Lundqvist’s stellar play, the Rangers deserved a goal.

And in reality, if that call went against the Devils, I would’ve been more angry at Parise for not just dumping it deep. If he did that, it’s game over.

by dasru on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a shame it came down to a call like that. Depending on the ref it could have gone either way. However, Gaborik is a smart hockey player…. if he’s got Volchenkov behind him trying to lift his stick after he got position against him, he’s going to hang on to that stick so it looks like he’s wrapped around Gabby and then run into Brodeur. Bottom line is Gaborik knew what he was doing. I mean, look at the space between Volchie’s body and Gabby in the image in the recap. Volchies arms are also in front of Gaborik.

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by Devil_Hard_Core on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that's a good (counter?)example.

I definitely griped over that call in the Zach kick against the Islanders.

One key difference is that his kick was called a good goal on the ice, but overturned on review by Toronto. The rules allow for no such review last night. I don’t remember the precise example, but there’s another example where a whistle blew early, making it a dead puck and therefore negating a Devils’ goal. I think.

In all three cases, the post-game griping is understandable.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If you go back and look at the comments at the time, we were definitely pissed, but there wasn’t total surprise that the goal was overturned and plenty of posts pointing to the fact that the Devils shouldn’t have put themselves in the position to get screwed.

With very few exceptions (George), you can’t have that kind of a discussion with Ranger fans.

by HouseRich on Feb 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

By reading game threads at blueshirt banter you'll get pissed off.

But if you read any other teams game thread you’ll think their a bunch of homers.

Every group of fans have their clowns in the mix, I just think that because the Rangers have more fans than most other teams it seems that their bad apples seem a lot greater. Sure their are some terrible Flyers fans, but there are a lot of decent one’s as well i’ve come to known.

I’m a huge and proud Ranger fan, but I won’t let my feelings for the team get in the way in how I objectively view them. I wish all fans of any sport could do that.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d agree to that: the clowns and homers are out there but the emotionality and irrationality is heightened – among everybody – in game threads. For instance I noticed the people at BB deleted the slurs that people were throwing around about Devils fans. That was good of them. Some people were critical of those slurs last night, to their credit.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

this

Although I do read most articles on BB, BSH and a handful of other sites, this is exactly why I personally dont bother with the other teams game thread any more.

Especially during the game, when I am in my most emotional and somewhere less than 100 % rational state.

Not being preachy. I just don’t need to fuel the fire that burns inside any further :) Also, I have enough trouble following 1 game thread and paying attention to the game the way I like to anyway.

by JTdevs on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I know you guys don’t like fans to complain about calls and what not, but i’m pretty sure you guys were upset over the outcome of the game against the islanders when Zach "Kicked" (depending on your viewpoint) it in to force overtime.

But that was a reviewable play. Gaborik charging into Brodeur, as seen in the picture I included in this very recap, isn’t. They’re not really similar situations.

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd say they're pretty similar.

The fact that one was reviewable and the other one not to me makes no difference. Maybe all non goals now should be reviewable which is what Jeremy Roenick was talking about (whether you like him or not it’s a good idea).

Their both similar in the fact that they both could have changed the outcome of the game.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 8, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re similar in that they’re both last-second game-tying goals that came after 59 minutes of frustratingly poor play (according to respective fans).

The rule with regard to whistling it/ reviewing it differs, so they’re treated differently both on the ice and by fans.

The further distinction, as I see it, is that when Devils fans review the Parise kick they hope Toronto sees what they saw from whatever angle.

But when Rangers fans review the Gaborik play, there’s no point. Nobody reviews it because it’s nullified ab initio. Discussions about slow-motion replays from the reverse angle therefore go nowhere.

I assume the difference about the reviewability of the goal exists for three reasons: one, that penalties are called by on-ice officials based upon their intimate knowledge of gameplay; two, that making goal-crashing reviewable opens the concern that Toronto will decide games on to increase excitement, not sound officiaiting; and three, that it will increase the likelihood people crash the crease, hoping to get a favorable review.

by Alan Wright on Feb 8, 2012 9:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s the only way they are similar. One was a bounce, the other was an illegal play. One was unintentional, the other was quite intentional based on the picture of the point of contact in this very post.

Why should this play be reviewed? The refs or Toronto wouldn’t be looking to see if the Rangers scored, but whether there was an illegal action (and there was) committed before Anisimov touched the puck. If we’re going to review that penalty, then why not all other penalties? We can’t just bring in reviews for certain points of the game or if a goal was wiped out from it.

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW, Kerry Fraser seems to disagree on the illegal action part of it, and on whether it should be reviewable.

Upon closer inspection, we see that Volchenkov places his stick between the legs of Gaborik and the pressure exerted causes the NY Ranger to fall and crash into Brodeur. The clear evidence is seen when the players attempt to untangle themselves in the crease. Vochenkov’s stick blade can be found stuck in the plastic blade holder of Gaborik’s left skate!

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Volchenkov must be really strong to exert so much pressure on Gaborik’s right side to cause Gaborik to drive his left shoulder into Brodeur.

Also: I think Kerry needs to re-watch the video that Puck Daddy has, which is from the game’s broadcast. Gaborik’s skate blades are clean and stick-free going into Brodeur. The multiple angles show this in slow mo (namely :35 – :37 into the video that PD has).

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by John Fischer on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven’t looked at any of the videos because frankly I don’t really care either way. I said it on twitter, if it’s Lundqvist, Ranger nation goes ballistic if there’s no call. They lost that game well before 19:57 of the 3rd. It sucks, but there ain’t a lot that can be done.

However, it’s hot button enough that I figured you’d want to see another opinion out there, and people will focus on his opinion since he was a referee. I do however think that scoring plays should be reviewed if need be. I don’t think it changes a darn thing last night, but there’s other situations where it might.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 8, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, he was a referee, but to paraphrase, those that can do, those that can’t, manage. How he stayed a ref as long as he did was beyond me. He was one of the worst of his time. Makes his opinion as sound in my mind as Ecklund’s.

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by FrankG929 on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

That is an opinion from a guy that missed Wayne Gretzky decapitating a guy during game 7 of the Western Conference Finals, I remain unswayed.

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by slackdog_rm on Feb 8, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Similar play in which a goal was called off and a penalty given to the rushing player. What’s funny is the refs and linesmen discussed it.

And would you look at that….Mr. Fraser is involved.

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by Matthew Ventolo on Feb 8, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember my first hockey game ever. I was 3 or 4 years old, and it was either 89 or 90. The Devils were playing the Penguins. In the span of 8 minutes there was a fight, and then the Devils had a goal waved off by Kerry Fraser due to a high stick. The entire arena started chanting “Fraser Sucks!” for a while. I was so amazed at the fact that this stuff could happen at a hockey game I was then hooked on hockey for life.

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by slackdog_rm on Feb 9, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Trap? Who said Trap?!

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by EliasStillRocks on Feb 9, 2012 1:54 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think anyone has said trap until this very comment.

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by John Fischer on Feb 9, 2012 8:00 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

No One Said Trap.

No one said Trap in these comments.
I was just making a general statement about how NJ has always been perceived to play, and how the current Rangers are playing a very similar “Trap” style game. Yet the Devils are still considered the Boogiemen who play nothing but a “Trap”! Like no other team has ever done it! The successful Canadiens teams of the 80’s and 90’s used a trap system. It’s B.S.!
The Devils haven’t actually played a Trap system in some time, and currently are using an aggressive forecheck system. It’s like some people can’t believe NJ has a winning record without using a trap. Yet the Rangers, who have always badmouthed NJ’s “Boring” style, are having a great year with a system NJ is historically villified for! I have nothing but respect for John Torts, and he is doing a great job with our hated rivals. But this whole business about NJ only wins because they play a trap is unwarranted now. NJ didn’t invent the neutral zone trap, other teams use it, and NJ can win without it! I just want the critics to go badmouth the Rangers for their use of the trap for once… but it won’t happen. The NHL just loves to hate the NJ Devils.
The Devils are just the Rodney Dangerfield of Hockey… never get any respect!

by EliasStillRocks on Feb 18, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a Thought

Does anyone else remember this season’s pre-season game at the Rock between the Devils and Rangers? Does anyone else recall how the Devils had the tying goal wiped out with roughly two minutes to play on a questionable goaltender interference call (Nick Palmieri on Chad Johnson)?

Having recalled all that while driving today (I drive courier for a living) I have to applaud that the officials apparantly showed some consistency. I approve when penalties are penalties, whether it is Pre-Season or Game 53 or Post-Season, whether it is the first minute of the game or the last. Swallowing a whistle “as not to decide the game” helps decide the game by letting players take liberties and get away with things they weren’t getting with before.

If it was a penalty when Nick Palmieri bumped Chad Johnson and he collapsed like a European soccer player, it’s a penalty when Marian Gaborik bowls over Martin Brodeur. Period.

(I know I said the Palmieri bump wasn’t a penalty at the time, and I stand by that opinion I came to on that night from Section 3 Row 5. But if the referees think that was a penalty and whistled it as such, the Gaborik hit has to be a penalty too — complete with player being stuffed into the sin bin.)

by acasser on Feb 9, 2012 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

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